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the doctor. so in the clouds it, it's time to us and then when generations class this week on dw, the over $100.00 days of war in guns, according to the most controlled health authorities over $24000.00 palestinians have died as a result of the is really offensive the majority of them, women and children israel took military action as a response to the terra tax carried out by him. austin israel. on october 7th,
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2023. approximately 1200 people were killed. most of them civilians. and over 230 people were abducted the guns as hostages. these really governments declared goal is to eliminate from us in the gaza strip. we asked a colleague who was already living in guns that before the war to document every day life there for us. mohammed alcott flute is a reporter who works for deutsch avella. he himself has been displaced in the war repeatedly having to flee from the air strikes. he's been sending us both videos and voice messages since the war began. what we're experiencing today is the worst and most violent war we've ever had in gaza. so what for civilians? and for us, journalists, the the destruction and suffering raise the question of what the future might
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hold for guns, a and the region. a variety of scenarios are being discussed, but are any realistic options? the sure major 3 months is really forces had been waging war and gaza tens of thousands of bombs and missiles. so i've struck the narrow coastal strip which has been sealed off since the most terror attack on israel. i most innovated israel 3 months ago with the brutal atrocities of october, 7th and in response we set 3 goals to destroy him, us, to return all of the hostages, and to make sure that the gaza can never again, pressing people is really, society sees the attacks by him, us designated by many countries as
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a terrorist organization. as an existential threat. the shock from october 7th is still palpable. every day we hear new details. many times the feeling is that each new story is worse than the last. and then in addition to that, we have the war going on. and so every day there is, there are soldiers being killed, their families who are bereaved. and those of us who are paying attention are also devastated by what's going on in gaza and knowing that this war is causing such apocalyptic damage and gaza, that everybody there is suffering. 2.3000000 people live in the guns, a strip. one of the most densely populated areas in the world. on october, 13th, 2023. the israeli defense forces issue to call for civilians to leave northern guns for the south. over a 1000000 people tried to plead to safety. among them were mohammed and his family . the transitional benefits and i left casa city and northern gauze after the is
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really army announced that these areas, we're now combat zones, and all residents there would be in danger in the end as well. and i had to move to the south of gaza with my father and my sister on the escape route from north to south was very dangerous. someone kind of put in a couple of them. and there was non stop showing all of it in front of me. thanks to god, i got there safely. in spite of all the dangers from the la, i'm in front of the engine room because they only see it looks at. mohammed would regularly send us footage, clearly showing the extent of these really bum apartments. the most lead ministry of health and guns that updated the rising official death told every day nobody knew how many dead were still buried under the rubble. more and more people were mourning relatives. since i outcome with does house was destroyed. she and her baby son had been staying with relatives and hun eunice. according to my 3 eldest children went downstairs in the yard and headphones suddenly i felt the was loading
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up around me. i had them cracked and then sold them break apart like pieces of a jigsaw puzzle. i saw the light coming in through the crack up and we was sent flying to the yacht, lost consciousness during the attack. after waking up in hospital, she was told that her husband and 3 of her children had died. the control of my children, a dad, she was the best thing to be married for 7 years and i had 4 children in this time . about 3 of them died and while i have nothing to remind me of them, my husband is dead, but my children are dead. the house has gone on my phone with photos of them on it . what i had the whether or not as to what she does have at least one picture sent by friends and is the only child she has left him a believe is how the how the son was. i'm the only one left for him because we live in a state of fear, and then every night i sleep with him on my lap. so if i miss style strikes,
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it will he to spokes me either will die together or survive together. he has no one except many of them, and i have no one except him. don't know what will happen to me if he dies. and if i die, who will bring him up? the large number of civilian fatalities has drawn international criticism of talking to don't you felt love's government spokesman, a levy justified the actions of israeli forces? so if you could briefly introduce, we are seeing scenes of widespread destruction because how most spent the last 16 years deliberately redesigning garza city scape in order to hide its military assets on the civilian areas. this is how most human shields strategy but is defeating how much a realistic goal. a question that a growing number of israelis had been asking to. the government and idea if they didn't know is that they, we, we continue with the war feeling the collapse of combust regina and the total
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destruction of combust spread and many other capabilities. but you cannot really achieve those goals if uh, if uh you will not be, you know, we put something wrong because, well, these really government has not yet said when, or whether it will be withdrawing its forces from guns. okay, so after the elimination of a mass, the gaza strip was demilitarize them. the under is a really security control and no element in it. so either threatened us or teach us children to destroy us, go from within it is really troops had been stationed in dallas as since 1967, but withdrew in 2005 after how much to power israel imposed a partial blockade of the territory. is it an imposing? does that have been so you should do, but i think people, but i'm basic things we didn't have clean water and guys suffer something with
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people had been exposed to only 6 hours a day and the everything that's good got to enter goods or left. does it have to be controlled by isabel? and we had a level overview of 70 percent of the population on the line of poverty and more than 80 percent of the young to do good to people who were unemployed. so is that it was, or people buying guys are in the discipline to me and now they want to sustain their military occupation. and so i've got to be a permanent military occupation of guns that would be rejected internationally. most importantly, by israel's most powerful ally, the united states. i've made it clear to these relays, i think it's a big mistake for them to think they're good occupied casa maintained. gosh, i don't think that works well is really ground troops advanced in northern casa, at the end of october. more and more palestinians sought refuge in the south, clean water and food soon became scarce and sanitary conditions intolerable. a
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deliveries were reduced to a trickle. this effort to move a force, palestinians to the south to keep them with minimal amounts of food and water, creating a desperation among palestinians so that you know more and more are going to die unless they get out and are able to access. um, you know, support from egypt is a man made a forest population transfer a lot in january 2020 for a fall right minister of netanyahu's government called outrage with his plan for garza. i me a call on the prime minister and the new foreign minister of the this is an opportunity to orchestrate an immigration project and to encourage the migration of residents from gaza to the countries of the world i saw for some of the
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that is not is there any government policy, we are a lively democracy with many ministers who have many opinions. and those opinions do not reflect the policy if the state of israel every day that the war continues, the sheer mass of bombs and missiles hitting the narrow coastal strip increases the prospect of guns that be coming uninhabitable. these explosives that have been used are in now on the ground so i out of the decimated buildings are toxic made of toxic materials that's now part of the soil. it's degraded the environment and think that we don't even have any equipment left in gaza to remove and start to think about clearing this up on october 20th mohammed and members of his family 1st moved to hon. eunice and southern gaza like hundreds of thousands of other palestinians. bad most with it. the after i arrived
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in southern gaza, i took my father and my sister to the red crescent building in the city of hon. eunice and i went to the master hospital in the hon units region, most of the, some of the entertainment anyone's able, a ceasefire between israel and from us beginning on november 24th, enabled the exchange of hostages for palestinian prisoners negotiations led to the release of around $100.00 hostages is really forces estimate that $136.00 are still being held in gaza and there was growing impatience among ordinary israelis. there is pressure within is really society to reach another temporary cease fire in order to release hostages. but at the same time, you know, the majority of israelis are still supportive of the war. there is a bit of a contradiction there. but the cause of releasing the hostages is certainly the most unifying cause in israel right now. during the ceasefire, mohammad documented the situation and the refugee camps and han eunice. the war is
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taking a particularly high told on the children of casa, the beginning of the children fell asleep as soon as we arrived here. now they haven't slept for 2 weeks. they were so exhausted and i swear to god. yeah, they just lay down and went straight to sleep, having no more food. and then when they woke up, they had a little smile on their faces because there was no more noise from the artillery in the plains. those for you must minutes, but been as zigzag and no nightmares that they die the next morning. just imagine the children's greatest wish was of the sound of the drones and plains with a stop one local initiative and find newness aims to lift children spirits. give them a heads up, we want to read the children who have been displaced from the north of the south of gaza with all these children have suffered so much under the is really your strength of, of how when the pallets didn't even working women society for development is trying
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to alleviate the psychological burden and i'm, i'm happy that the comes to come to see us. we come play because of the booms and that. but when the crowns came, we played with them and our friends, we don't split them and they gave us lots of toys. on december 1st, the ceasefire came to an end, and the bombing resumed from both sides. in northern guns at the is really military continued to occupied further territory, reportedly destroying how much infrastructure including parts of the extensive tunnel system. numerous amongst combatants were killed with many other palestinians arrested. in early december, mohammed sent us a series of pictures and a distressed text message, the
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the 1st 7 people in the one photo he said, for his brothers and cousins and the other florida. i was surprised to see a picture of my brothers and cousins circulating on the internet and the saudi on the front of the show because then i didn't know where exactly it was taken in by lee and northern gaza. it. i witnesses that the is really stormed the area and look, and all the young men there and puerto arrested on that and moved it into a month before the arrests were justified. shortly afterwards by his really government spokesman, a long levy. we're talking about military age men who are discovered in areas that civilians were supposed to have evacuated weeks ago. we've been calling for an evacuation of those. how strong holds in order to locate the how mazda october 7th monsters with minimal home to civilians. now those individuals will be questioned and we will work out who indeed was a, how much terrorist and who is not put on the, on the whole team. of course,
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i asked my brothers cousins and uncles if they wanted to come to the south with us . but they refused, and it has a photo of them and they said there were dangers and strikes everywhere. and then everyone had to suffer their own fate and missing the whole thing. and we'll see you before i tell you. in the 2nd half of december, the netanyahu government started bombing southern guns, a 2 with increasing intensity among the buildings hit was the nicer hospital in han, eunice, where our reporter mohammed was stay. one of them knew i had to leave and that sort hospital last night after it had been hit twice in the morning and of the evening before the whole thing in the building next to where i was sleeping came under attack. and the can't the where the consumer of guns is $36.00 hospitals, only a handful or functioning and even then only a rudimentary capacity and largely without electricity or medicines. bombing
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hospitals is classified as a war crime unless they are being used for military purposes. as israel and us intelligence claimed to be the case, a most rejects the accusations. israel has been facing growing international criticism over its operations in gaza and become single, literally confined december 29 and even to south africa, filed an application at the international court of justice in the hague, asking it to investigate and alleged a violation of the genocide convention we think it is outrageous that pretoria has chosen to play advocates for the devil by covering up the crimes of the most rapist regime and giving it legal and political cover. and we have no doubt that if there is justice in the world, the international courts of justice will throw out predatory as outrages, accusations, and make it very clear. it was how most that perpetrated an active genocide on october 7th, since january 11th,
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the judges in the hague have also been deliberating over a request by south africa to order an immediate end to the war. the genocide case itself could take years. even if the war were to end soon, sconces future is uncertain. there is as yet no strategy as to who should govern garza after the war. some have raised a potential option involving arab nations. is getting. there are various signals from out of the state, but they also see a rule for themselves in the future of gaza. and there's also huge domestic pressure on the streets for them to take action from the positive. i'm starting to see the puzzle demands of. well, they kind of bring on the international forces in the world and put them on the board of this. we don't care about that, but they kind of have to bring other countries to do with us. would get them on people accept that france will join them or britain. but any other country, of course not understanding is does that have to have independence?
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does anyone have had to have that i for relating to them. so who should take political responsibility for the people of gauze and future? one possibility would be the palestinian authority, which governs in the west bank and is led by the internationally recognized president mark motor boss. housing authority does not have capacity to deal with the scale of what's taking place. and guys, if it's already deemed illegitimate by the palestinians, because it hasn't been able to deliver on basic services, but also on a, on a peace agreement that would see an end occupation. it does on a saturday without authority because it has deprived it from what it is. it is on no sort of deal under isn't a new patient. it's cannot control any area endorsed back. and they can't even going through all the videos of the police to and also to team which comes from the 1st thing in that space is also controlling that
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a mosse has rules gone. so since the elections in 2006, 4 years, the group received millions of dollars in financial backing from cots are a connection that researched by the new york times reveals was not only tolerated, but actually supported by benjamin netanyahu. that's on yahoo had been advancing a policy of dividing the palestinian leadership strengthening, or at least tolerating some us allowing it to be supported with authority money in order to avoid reaching any sort of political resolution to the conflict they wanted from us to remain in place keep it's the threats manage, but ensure that there was a divide in custody and leadership. but the question now is, what's to be done with home us? they will not to be able to eliminate termite amount of because how much is not just amended the destruction and the question here. is there a possibility that's how may i ask would be part of the solution about the done part of the problem? the answer is yes, i know them when they would accept
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a 2 state solution if there was any of those states. now that was of course, a lively political debate about how we reached secure peace with the palestinians. and if there's one thing that everyone in this debate can agree on, is that there is no room for the how must rapist regime off to this floor. because how must exist in order to oppose peace, how most doesn't want a 2 state solution. how most one's a final solution. but 2 states solution has been under discussion for decades. it would involve a palestinian state consisting of the guns, a strip, and the west bank with east jerusalem is capital. but it's really, as have been building settlements in the west bank for decades in violation of international law. you can't have. so 10 minutes and a 2 state solution doesn't to what step that order to do controlling 60 percent on
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the west bank and the is in this area. 60 percent of those spent by listing is i'm not allowed to bid us cool. i can do the garden a clinic house, nothing. netanyahu continues to reject the 2 state solution. so when you say 9 prototype prevented the establishment of a palestinian state because to day everybody understands what it could have meant. after seeing the little palestinian states and guys who do not, everyone knows what would have happened if we could potentially to, to international pressures and unable to state like that you did in some media. so give me surrounding jerusalem and on the outskirts of television. so i'm going to but the while is really is continued to face rocket attacks from guns and fear for the state of the abducted hostages. hundreds of people were dying every day and is really strikes on southern guns, a 2 on january 7th, bahama to send us another video and a message. an attack by the israeli forces had killed most members of
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a well known palestinian family men, women, and children. in the last night, a chalet belonging to the of the family was attacked with him. it was like many others that his family was forced to leave cause a city and moved to the south for what was the chalet was hit in a strength nichol jobs with football. and so what i was there in the morning with other journalists, and then we found what happened didn't and how the family relatives and neighbors tried to pull the bodies out from under the rubble. and there's just nothing on the oh my dearest ones. i spoke to my mother in law and she asked why i left. i told you that i wanted to say good bye to my family and then
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come back and we have a travel permit. we wanted to escape this in just a minute. they were supposed to be leaving today is the why are they doing this to us at our level? the girls died last night. i can't take it any more. the girls are going to move is going on level, my dear as to why not as and i know nobody asks about us. oh, defends us over 30000 people who have be made monitors so far and we does know what's next. that hasn't been lives and none of the policies will compromise, and the people other ones paying the price by the dentist who come to us to understand that we have still a lies. but we're expecting to die any minute. and some of the rebuilding cause after the end of the war and making it fit for people to live in again, will be a colossal undertaking. there will have to be multiple actors involved to us. and we use the word international community to refer to rich western countries. i think
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there's will also be middle eastern countries involved. i think we should end the error of assuming that the international power brokers are only a small subset of powerful western countries. what we do now is that the air of gulf states that usually are tapped to help rebuild guys, they have said, you know, this is not their responsibility because they have been putting the belt for this kind of destruction. uh and on a lesser scale. but they've been paying for the rebuilding of guys a repeatedly festival. i think the responsible party for destroying does it or not, this must be held accountable for that. second, i think the rebuilding does, that is possible with a very resilience people and i think is what it must be for us to be a compensation. sort of the unnecessary destruction that has caused i'm the day off the home us. the international community must ensure that garza is rebuilt
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peacefully. and it's rebuilt in a way that it shows that concrete goes to people's houses, and not into how most tara tunnels for our report him a homage every day poses danger, as he would see again on january 7th. after filming the on august families destroyed chalet. so bad, most of us in the office, we, after we finished filming, i went back to the crate hospitals in one more time again. and when i got there is i found out that the color of my colleagues had been targeted. the ones we've just been filming the side of the explosion with me. i was surprised by the names of the dead. among the journalists, sitting in that car was, homes are enough to one son of alger zeros bureau chief. and another colleague of mine who stuff onto riah. got out, is there
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a journalist who's writing in a call with a how most terrorist who was operating a drug in general, it is a bad idea to hitch rides with terrorist and inactive was on because you might get hurt. now i've seen that figure of the number of journalists who are killed and it's important that you take a close look at that list. because i counted over 20 people who are written as being how most affiliated media, a 100, according to the committee, to protect journalists over 80 journalists have been killed in the war to date. no one can say when the war and gaza will end the whereabouts of the remaining hostages are still unclear, as their relatives fear for their lives in gusts itself. people are dying every day and is really a tax. 1.9000000 palestinians are now displaced. there, according to the world food program, over half the population is threatened by extreme or severe hunger. given the scale
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of the destruction, the mutual hatred and the immeasurable suffering. is there any hope of peace and gauze of reconciliation between israelis and palestinians? i never give up hope that um, that piece is possible. this is a definitely a dark time to be thinking about uh, you know, piece talks or some grand solution. uh, that will come. i mean, you don't make peace between 2 friends. it's always 2 enemies, 2 opposing parties that make peace may be after regeneration, 2 generations. we will speak about any kind of coexistence but nothing that coming gears. these really military attacks are forcing people and guns of further south towards the border with egypt which is sealed off. mohammed is now there to a bad end is just another moment. this is after everything we've seen and
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experienced, there is no future for gaza. and then for the destruction is devastating. for the 1st time in my life, i also had to flee as the displaced people. i have been filming all have one wish for the war to end, so they can return to their homes in northern gods on the maritime trade. and tourism can be powerful sources of beauty, nomic growth, but they come with greater risk than before. container shipping is vulnerable to
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