a lot, just a glimpse behind the facade of this energy time. tell us, gosh, come russia's political weapon starts february, 3rd on dw the this week on the 77 percent street debate. and i did not get that scholarship. i looked, i heard that they wanted, you know more people's more of your back to where trying to like d, w. and that was why it must be this month. jude reach me that i on people. i have a try. it is just my know what i have. i try, i think. what are the reasons out? what do you know about that? i'm not trying to show you. this is really much rather go what you saying. you're doing nothing. the hello and welcome back to the 77 percent sweet debate this week. we are in lagos, nigeria, and would you believe me if i told you that this country has over 300 ethnic groups?

that's crazy to think about. and with that comes over 500 languages, making this one of the most diverse countries in the world. but that's a bus it because sometimes gets in its own way, resulting to tribalism. and the question today is candace country over comments. and what can the older folk learn from the younger people who better to ask the fellow nigeria and thank you all for joining us. but before we begin, i'd like to ask a general question. how many of you here have experienced tribalism, directly, or in directly, let me see by show of hands in directly and directly. okay, so quite a fair amount of you. let's start with you. i mean, what was that experience like if you don't mind sharing it was very uncomfortable because essentially we are such a huge nation and we have so many languages. so hearing that you cannot have an opportunity to do something because your from the minority tribal from a try, but it's not central. what's actually very uncomfortable. so was this something

that happened way you were denied a service or you, what do you need? what give us a few more details. okay. so it is patricia was um, i wasn't the relationship with someone and i was not allowed to marry this person because she was from another truck. so it was kind of, you know, uncomfortable, you want to back and forth between families. what you don't know this person, i know him so it's about the people know about whether from what people are like or what the people have done, etc, etc. okay, so we've been raised his hand. yeah. and he's actually a historian. so before we continue with people's personal experience, so just take us back a little bit with the idea of tribalism begin to in. they do each other, they show up tight bodies in the games, me at the pre colonial period. okay. as long as you may showed lends you at his home to a multiple ethnic groups. so people exist at the different ethnic levels. and then we had the colonial period, okay. and where the, the, the clearly, almost as i'm in use use the, the issue all try by using, okay, to rule the country forward, you have benefits. okay. and then we had it posted independence period as

a postcolonial period. that's where we had the, the cruise and then we had the cones i caused. and then of course, you know, the 1st cool was that there are different positions that it was a selective because i think be cool because of the selective targets. okay, of those that were involved, but they're also opposing arguments against that. well, that's cause that's, that's, that's the history. that's how you came down. i mean, the program that followed up to just to conclude because i am because i've looked at the 1st 2, i mean lots of people from the eastern extraction we're guilty with with, with that. okay. and that was quite a problem on that has that has formed part of the whole fabric on the whole system of nigeria, of the country. yeah. so a very doc and sometimes violent history because of tribalism. thank you. so he started cutting, we used to do in fighting the loads pretty colonial period. there's a lot of new fighting amongst your russ if i just not call themselves your russ as

a tub while you try it. it's right to help the bill for the house has to. it is the same thing. they used to always buy it almost themselves, and the boys, especially the boys because they will have you say that you, well i'm, i guess i'm on the bottom for that nearby. but simply means that people have looking, you know, says they have more central authority. the address times, let's say this is the town i know the talk, and they always buy to for one town to do all the. so you raise a very important point to, oh, i really loved the enthusiasm here, but i have to send to buck the debate for a 2nd, looking around nigeria to be, i mean i kind of distinguish between unable i your bought a house. so how does it money fest in contemporary made julian life the other day i was online and then someone you know, says that the euro bought the euro, but try like, foamed or made, you know, nobody would, which is the 3rd because movie industry as well as people were saying, oh no, this one was struggling, is the ball was on, the system said, no, it's the houses. i was thinking about something. i'm like,

why do we have to bring the, the, the whole nature of try into this conversation. i'm from a minority fact. we don't even make noise. what does it mean that i'm less balance at? no right now. no. so show me that you can see people insulting themselves. people trying jobs that due to about when like i ask, where is humanity? yeah. okay. so you as a very important question, why that needs to identify along tribal lines and not just as they do as molly would as after beads. let's ask henry here because he works for a national agency or orientation which is basically supposed to unites nigerians. there's nothing intrinsically wrong with identifying with your tribe. is that so where does the child is coming? no, that was, you know, said lots of things on up. you know, so shoot me that that's bringing a bunch of memories that i'd be here. go back to our bodies in fact, into us. okay, let me talk to somebody who knows a little bit about social media, some of who's the digital strategies. so does this imply that it's young people because they're the ones who a majority of social media, who have been heavy to this disease of tribalism. a major has about what's to be

under ethnic groups, $500.00 languages. if you put people of different needs in the same place, it's bound to be a disagreements, right? i think you just didn't really natural that those days would happen. the young people let you know for oh, you said these like those people, people do your about people and it's, it's what they knew on what i think, even if they're a differentiate issue, be similarities, right. and did you want got people don't really care about? the difference is if you ask everybody, we don't really care, right. the younger people have their own cultural, don't be 6 things, you know? and i think this, we try at the end of the day. okay. so i'm sharing here, i'm going to come to you just a 2nd. i'm hearing a little. we're really not try believes we don't care what tribe you come from. and yet you're telling me that in your politics, sometimes even in your relationships tribalism is sleeping through why is that? let me hear from someone at the back here. i would like to touch on the aspect of culture. i think the culture is meant uniform. the mentally to integrate just as

the people and the fact that he behaves. he's very able and i'm your by or he's how is that it doesn't change the idea and the fact that there was an aspect of individually to everybody. so i said i'd be costs if i have, if i have a bad activity, for example, when i say that it's, it's been, i do, and that made me have about that. you know, it is me, it's agile maria, maybe, but i will. i didn't think that the training that my parents gave me, maybe i didn't listen to them very well when i was growing up. that is what make me happy about aptitude. ok. ok, yes i do. and because you mentioned, if i know you want to say something, but i want to come to it gets you cool for a 2nd here because we are hearing about the values of a sometimes of pride to you as part of your culture and your identity. fantastic. but isn't there room for national values for a night jury and i just for someone like me comes, are you not you? i don't have the, the, the loves me will be new. ty, buddies, i know is the reason why i say this is because, 1st i'm able by twice, i'm delta and by what we do, i'm going to bye bye back to nice the nice ation and house of by my,

which i don't epic by my turn out condition, so i see, so how do you, how do i find myself and it's got a pretty soon. so how do i, how do i, you know, become type of these things. so i think it's, it has a lot to do with the individual as press when i, when i hear people see, i'm especially excited to mind before the 9 julian i, i say something which is the height of social. you need to be a human before you belong to. we try. now you hear the houses us call you the evil is the, i mean, you know, the, what do you, i mean you actually came from the tim movie which means give me, we'll talk when you try to get, try to tell someone that the, the, the black people are you calling them a booking? you'll have you saw with my friends or your friends about this is so easy to see when you point the finger of someone so much is pointing out to you. let me hear from you bill a for a 2nd here by the way. i love the quiet that's happening in the background. yeah. yeah. yeah. so the few things that you've said, and i want to give you a chance to, i just want to build on what you said, lack of the memory,

you called me, was it something that am i need to use the smoke and do it in the simple so, you know, there's a way he's to be used to fits us. so this new generation of, let's see, all us that the joints see that's us office. so, but when, when history is being taught to them, that's when do now recall, that's cool. so this is what this means. so advocates in history from the party for a long done by the den presidents or the several of us once a week. he said to wits in the bronx, and i'd be too soon of he's to be from the sea level as does to take off this well see what was being seemed to have bodies to upwards, to tease it away from the new edge and it is on well it's, it's done. it has its pros and cons. uh, let me get from it's on you for a 2nd because you've been wanting to speak for a while and i want to find out from you is that this disconnect between the young generation and the older generation. the older generation and being the ones went

through the civil war. really know about this cause of tribalism. yeah. so the big disconnect, i see that very or whenever people kindly during the election, these pos, that accounts, it was very, very over. it was very clear where the al daddy, the oh, that was the kind of like, relax um, do you want to put too much pressure of the just comfortable way the way you get somebody like give yourself dude, you gotta do your thing to move forward. you see what i think is on social media, how old are countries? i'm moving forward periods and everything i do want to make was help when you we have all the resources, you have everything while we still hear you get the whole and testing should how you need see is that you need um is very, very uh, you know, the most of the younger generation, the most name pre are the 2 gates. have you christine? got it outside the senior, decreasing type range, use them. got every right you guys. so it was this, it was a very beautiful for me to see, to weakness be good. so i think uh, well the other issue is out holding those box because of the, the things that happened to the breaches came and divided everywhere and,

and did not say using that as the system is the one they put it on the system because he's not visible, is that what you, what you mean about us or are you to show an agency? i think we should need to. we need to be very, very black and white. the bulky very on this. if you ever on it's going to see things you read the and then be able to pointed out you. good. so let me get some practical examples. anyone here who has perez, who a very try police and it makes you uncomfortable. anyone whose parents hold views that you are like i, i am, i'm a anyway. um, my dad used to tell me at the time that you know, matters for me. partners. lots like, oh, that'd be gone to what that why i box them several times. they will not, and some of you were just telling me, please do grandma body from that's right. i know fortunately for you when i go to the rest of the sprint, obviously be from from the try. so let me ask emmy, because you started us off with the story about marriage. what is a big deal in marrying outside of your community?

according to the people who are against. okay, so i'm from bios that states and essentially my people are turned in my lawyer to try because we don't make up, you know, a large number of the people, the main syria. we have small tribes. so my re, somebody from much, i've been just, you know, continued the line is continue the culture continued. that that's what they're going to risk marrying your cousin. you feel such a small try? it's actually helpful. yeah. so yes, it does happen. and i don't think it's frowns on, it's just not too close to home. but i think after which i would say that that murray's been work how not because of what they did was because the 2 of us agreed much with me that we should not continue to eviction should what they wanted was just so that i tried to continue and i think that personally, i fear by, in the coming years, if we could see me on my re like that, like that, like that. maybe we might not have files the okay. let me hear from the general manager. all right,

um i will start with these. i was frozen up or down before i became a nigeria and i was an engineer. and before i became an uber person, i worked with most of the people from the notes. i'm from the west. you and has done it when i, when i go back to up with you, i did the job, i'm supposed to resume from somebody who's on the notes. so as my personal experience, having to work with different kind of people makes me one to know more about culture. jeremy jones, i've tried this one. i never had, i've seen whenever i've come across so important there shouldn't be died. dogs evening. doctor eyeball is the, you know, it doesn't make sense. younger generations, we need to put our heads together, get, go back to history, make research and you know, see how we can perhaps to get on and making energy at work. ok. so i just wanted somebody to clarify something for me because it seems that the issue of i believes in comes up when it's intimate relationships, right? so not my rage. what about business? what about politics? let me show somebody who wants to respond to them to our weakness and how about it, even when i was to the secondary school, a friend of mine who was my name sick,

but he wasn't fault, was the delta able holding up on the close of 9000 across the 9 to and we got to think about marketing. you've been engineering engineering to go through that. didn't get that question and it'd be that way through different places. i say hearing that because i'm from delta care, i'm across the 9 job as the mobile number on there as well. so i'm like has to be hired on the 2nd level. so people to god's lives on the, on the or not, and from the north, on 5, on every getting to school. and you don't get into my study and get this is really imagining, okay, is happening on the secondary level, adult level education and imagine wasn't on politics, business every other thing. so i think national register in jersey, they have no, i don't think they've addressed all these issues. well, here is the national orientation agent. okay, but i will tell you that i'm not sure i have to show you just is doing a lot where the government to saying you're doing nothing. that's what i'm about to tell. you are the only government to just and apart from security. jesse, that's as press cents in all the $700.00, so it's for the,

for governments. so we are programs out of sets in place to address try bodies, one of them. these beauty before government also outputs measures in place as a subs some government. it just went to this for the collect our commission. you mentioned, you know, that time that you stop us by, by the name of the app on my digits entirely, social distance that has not, not only that, it doesn't pull you up with that. it doesn't really happen to parties, this is also often and government sec, well goodness, i've noticed that and that's a government addressing place to ensure that yes such things are quote you i, one of them is for, is that correct? okay, okay. i think we should do, i need to bring a little bit of history to that, so we see them. we should lose sight of what tribes, by the way, let's just clarify that for a 2nd, because i only have, i hear the words try in relation to africa. when we go to the northern hemisphere, they're referred to as ethnic groups. what's the issue? the white? well, i think the that's, that shouldn't be a problem. i think we should focus on what tried these as a word. i didn't say

a bad thing. it is, it is group identity. the problem is try bodies in which is the behavior ok try it is a basic human instinct. is it best to just lay a whole guy just like um, i'll be tied for these off with that. okay, that was how human survived. in preceding 60 will have this out there. they have to come together. okay, so that's colorado. that's rates move from pre steve like this one era to more than say though we, i know there's a tendency to find comfort in your community. okay. there's a tendency to find refuge in your community where you can identify with people i think, well we have to do is to report posts that. okay, do i find safety, indiana, right? do i find safety in the mac with me from your by coming from people that say yeah, let me just wait, you know, does, does she want it say when your mind is it comes into the picture. you don't have to worry whether or not you would find safety in the hands of a how is that person or you will because kindness is supposed to be a universal think given that yeah. how is that your about your people?

it should not be a problem i told i think that from the outside what i don't see us as that the sales rep nigerians. and i think that we should carry ourselves in that one accord us one people because the truth is when i see you in school, i don't ask you what, what, what did you come from? oh, my nigeria. um, brother, when i see you in america when i do and when i say your and gone out. well i julians uh hold on. let me give victor chance. he hasn't spoken. okay. yeah. um do n y c? think nat geo, you'd save this, quote, quotes the 1st time i came to the west, illegal sampling. bunch of states because somebody gives legos in the com. how do we fit them? yes. house. ok. but because it was in the west, the south thing that anyone else from that we don't use those to natalie. how sort of experience um, try bodies in industrial and i've seen a good thing. so it was, it was very weird to me because it was supposed to like you mentioned mangee on spring just to get off what you've been via you have people being tablets to you. so i feel like we also need to even as a menu, as individuals and to go back and really learn online. i really interesting. so

yeah. what i would like was to take notes of 2 things. now the particular top individual requirements implemented easy, not if i'd be moved, i mean cruise things like mostly i will expect the practice isn't going to jump, don't wait and it still good. i know, i don't want us to be pulling awards committee almost all the time. plus, my job is to 30 tomorrow, so let's close it up. just split up national studies and that's your fault. if i see my said i was in my dream, you see all fit as we might do now. we up. oh, these people must on august the israel ty, buddies, i don't judge you, i think so before we, before we move on to far, how exactly does government use tribalism to manipulate? let's, let's start with how let's such a call. i don't think the government plays a role in this. i think it is us. mix up the government, individuals who mix up the system, we're complaining about individuals. so this people, you'll, me, you from one of the city takes one person to change this situation. you get your

boss come in by boosting this. you not, you're not the most efficient. you might as the nation will all be united. you have, i don't see they've got your but i don't think about people. i don't see how we will. oh, do you mind what? because we're expecting government is the government. i think we should just stop saying it's annoying we. i failed to mention 2 other very big institutions that play parts into our bodies and that's our family and religion. and the ink ran some values and goods on principles into, you know, you go and then from your family, you move into school. and then from school while you're in school, you'll also pop over religion like, you know, and i don't want to go to what we agree on. we know that until this all the institutions sick the issue of try bodies and seriously on the price or on find a way to make sure that it is curtailed, even the government will try and it's look i porn, and what time to investigate now, let me tell you one thing i traveled on dental if someone was telling me, oh, are you from? i said, well i'm not, you're in always states. i said probably about, oh, if i able i said i'm most people and this month a dude with me that i am able, i have a try. it is just my know what i have,

i tried is actually the insulting to just got, like he said, because he's from a black to say this like he's how's that it's still on there. so this thing, that's what i wish it was also play a good spot. would you learn? i know that it was even all see about older. yeah. yeah. give them some of you. you don't even know the artists 593 i bought from you both the most bit nebraska you don't know all the states i think was you all educate ourselves very well so that we know we took it to that we respect. all right, let me come to it to you. so you see, i just, i said something and we just lay play out right now. now she was offended because she's going across the bus. the dentist said she was the boo. it's any crazy that people passes. actually doesn't. okay, so hold on, hold on, hold on. hold on to that. i'm going so big. hold on. i'm going somewhere with them . i believe i, i know i do. i'm going somewhere. you, you do you, you good. you'll be upset because you're trying to make them understand that, you know, other times outside to meet your tribes. right? no, that's is the to what i don't see. the reason why you should be upset because you're going to hold on. let me see the glass on you say your name is i don't?

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you kinda like like that. no. okay, okay. okay. okay, hold on. before we start throwing hands, let's, let's, let's take a deep breath. make your point. okay, so the thing is you're supposed to be upset, that's what needs to be that can do identity, right? i do educate them. okay, i get you cool. let me, let me, let, let me, let me through the question back to you, because it's, it's similarly to when you travel outside of the continent. and you say you're not julian, and you're introduced to a canyon and you're told, well, you all africans, there's something about erasing your identity. and i think that's the point that she was trying to me. let's hear from you, victor. so i just wanted to tell you that i was, or what is said, since you just said it's, it's not about being offended is about you, i didn't, i didn't see that. why you were you uh like, my like my, this is been stripped. you, i don't like you, i want to be called in the month of why you, i'm not because i'm not because just because as you know for me for the place, so you go to in our lives, it's to be labeled. let me give drill a chance,

please let me take was bucks with the jump issue? like my boat? i pointed out, that's um some that does uh, elected to sidelines some people from some ethnic groups in a try body stick with. if you do got to the whole thing because that is not true. yeah. change as throughout the data to make sure that you have the presence of so so, so thrive and so, so please, because the federal commission has an ok that's a shows that everyone is when represented in every government agency and product starts up so. so yes, that, that's what appears to be what, that's not what it is, because then deluca, i would say something that i'm going to be to. i applied for a scholarship and i got a phone call. they asked me, what are you from? your name is this that you apply for them like yes, yes, but where are you from? and i said by also states officials like okay, thank you. i'm like is that it's and i did not get that scholarship. i looked at her that did want to, you know more people's more of your back to where trying to like really badly. and

that was why it must be so much fun if it's not because they want to use it and mix it bottle and see if it costs they want to take you. okay. okay, so well i really, i'm seriously enjoying that. as soon as he hasn't moved this debate, we really need to come to a rough up and talk about some solutions. we'll see how tribalism is affecting us in different ways. how do we still, how do we still, i think, just like everything with the same individually thing. let's all see ourselves as individuals. let's all see ourselves as people. let's see. i feel as few months before we start looking at try, i'm from here, i'm from day that is the 1st place to start from the i believe dots, spirits of national, all these in should be higher over out governments. how's the pots to please really just me that's i'll be possible. hopefully, as well as the additional lead us does the we're full, okay. in addition to being human and kind, which is very, very important. we all, i, i will still keep hammering on education. because if you're well educated and you've, you know, like if you have sets an information,

you will not be as close to things that i'm not supposed to be misconstrued. i think we have a lot of work to do in our rural communities. the closest we happen either the area so the message needs to be driven down to those levels. okay, fine. yeah. so i think it's 2 boys down to the government. the government is up to you really be presenting. what is those 3 present people respect an import load? the spam you did do i represent very well. everybody does the same. ok. whatever they talk about tribalism on the negative side is actually you come from sophie's interest. let me tell you what dr is all about. and i do recall there is this particular lot, no, it's not, it's actually a is actually ruining the west, but it's in the north and celebrated in the east. so this is what drives in major oh, i love. okay, so on that note, i've got to ask you all for a small favor, because i know you're drawn from different tribes. i want you guys to show a little bit shared with our global audience,

something unique about your cultural background. what i don't know, everyone who's that or before line is regarding that's milk and also the ingredients that used to be paid. it is loved all over the world. what yahoo, a delta and the just the e body, daniel, tell people know it is this the tire? that's called up, which is a beautiful that's why it is white. so it picks it up to a piece and you need to. yeah, let me hear about you and it's home. so the bread, this is in the country. i mean it's, you can do it goes up. all right, so the name to god bless the vision, dental we have very diverse beautiful cultures and you have the best where there names. yeah. all right, so i'll come in here and go to of neutral. now there is a very beautiful place. so do not take what you see on social media, please visit nigeria and angela is a very beautiful place. so at the beginning of this debate, i ask a simple question. is it possible for the young generation to, to use the older generation on how to of a come try but isn't. i think all of you here have shown resoundingly that the

answer is a definite. yes. i have never felt so good up to discussing something. so tenuous, thank you all for watching the the

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