around your facing pacific history of everything, all set to mess, something right around the wells button. i need to talk to you back, just a subscriber id. listen to paul. gosh. then we'll take you along to the right the, the israel, how about us was moved briefly to an open culture with the hague. as the international court of justice heard, accusations of israel had committed genocide, gaza palestinians, welcome to move, including my guess was stuff about booty, the westbank who heads the policy, the national initiative. what do we want from the court immediately to allow me is to say that there is a mission of genocide and to give as an add on or the store know faculty to flow as violence against all civilians. but he was of special combinations of israel. so how will the ball and how will the hatred of i'm just afraid,

can guys ever be rebuilt and the better future be salvage level, the suffering of destruction? let's talk about the complex. thank you with to be with you. you've said that as well is failing. it's declared items in the gods of war, but jerusalem exists it. how much will be liquidated? and the fighting will go on until that happens. do you seriously doubt israel is ability to achieve that fe? absolutely, i'm not on the mean. i think the media isn't really that is like, i think got was a number of the what had been a thought saying the same. isn't that nothing you know, is trying to create an impossible mission by trying to just to, by how much, how much is not just that many times is structured. it's much this is much bigger than that. and the, i don't think the, this, this is a good, that should be the sort i think that i have, which is to ask,

what can be done in this for the situation. yes, but let's put in a come back. how about a minute to find a city a group is classified as a terrorist organization? jeopardy the you, us, do you really think at some point as well, we'll just give up the fight against it. is that i wouldn't have to make these was all the listing is including time us. there is no other way eh, montana and book your patient is not the solution. thinking of ethnic cleansing as a solution is also impossible. so there is only one way and that to my knowledge, how much would it be to do to accept the listing. and steve, within that acts of that expected to step solution that's design austin. but to continue with this occupation will not lead to enter solution onto piece. i want to get into just what kind of future you envisage for the palestinians

a bit later. but there's been a huge debate around the world about the force of israel's response to what happened on october. the 7th you have of course, condemned that responds. but on send me this, if you will, if a single day, how much must have good hundreds of his race in the west attack of jew since the 2nd world war, women and children of people would murder some or even right to a sexually abused for some of the we're actually in the peace movement is it time that how was there as well supposed to react to that press the let's, i agree that i do not accept that. can you go to the engineering go to the human? do you think i'm assuming you know, that kind of thing on known as the name, but i don't think that the fact that csr isn't any the children would come that the just unacceptable is there justification for couldn't 10001st thing in children.

that is unacceptable. but you're not the, i'm the, i'm the history of the not started. i'm just events of october. the big question here is, how many pundits doing ends up being killed since 1948. and what happened before the 7th of october. and so we have the time i can describe that, but i think the message, the other thing is we have receiving that isn't as does not belong to. these does not want to know about the student, students and intuition and nothing else in the united nations and kind of the model is showing the annexation of not on the list, but also guys are the cdn, okay. by the heights. nothing, you know is declaring company do not use the best prime minister to prevent a listing in states. so what is the best solution to plan on violence? is it to continue the environmental garza, which has already taken the lives of $29000.00 people? if we include the people on the table or to find a differently outage here,

you haven't got my question, which was how was israel supposed to respond to what happened on october? the 7th, we could get it to the history we will get into the history. but, but what kind of response would you expect israel to have made? i'm didn't how boss expect that it would be exactly what happened exactly what happened? looking at it, how is it as responded with boom, bottom into gus. continuously for the see leaks using on types of s dikes, the dentist line, 70 percent of all the houses income. you know, according to the most recent, because of the points during the 2nd world war, germany has on the 10 percent of all the homes and does that and get unlimited storage unit on 2nd. what is it? i'm not does not do anything. the proportion of the different thoughts out of this,

the button that says what, what would have been proportion, but what would it be that 400, you know, what would be proportional just to see it to the was enough, is enough with the settlement violence. we don't want this to continue and there's an end is the end of the patient. so i am not meant to conduct the thought and i know that you can kind of the patient if you concentrate on the symptom of that event, the causal disease. you're saying, you're not saying that how boss is a was, as i said earlier, to provoke israel and to doing exactly what it did provoke, must've been that tree retaliation. i've been to them as well for it. no, i don't think so. i don't think i must expect to have this kind of an edge. i don't think so. maybe if they knew what, what was what going to happen? maybe they would have to revise the plans. i don't know, i'm not and then months. but i know that we'd be living so $75.00 for you as a function of the displacement of ethnic cleansing, which affected 70 percent of the city and people i know about 70 percent of the

population of guys that have beams. if you use this list by is that are in the 1948, and i don't know what that does. it has to be on the siege for 17 years. with no electricity, no water, no running water. no, no, no economy, 80 percent of the people. what i do kid live on employee and 70 percent. where on the positive and what, what did that lead to? i know that's kind of sticking on. signed an agreement. i piece, i agree, mental it is are in web, the accepted a very painful compromise. i stayed on 22 percent of the of the historic palestine . all the united nations said we shouldn't have 44 percent. i'm still isn't and wouldn't accept. i know that nathaniel was needing this. one. may have that right. mission. wait, wait, wait a minute. in december 2000 and president clinton, that who, that excuse me, israel and who would back overdue

a state. on 95 percent of the west bank, a 100 percent of the gaza strip with land swaps to compensate for the sacraments controller that are barriers of east jerusalem divided sovereignty over the holy sides. provision for the return of many palestinian refugees to the new state. it was even by the reckoning of palestinian company, the data is the best deal that you, what ever offered of yasser arafat turned it down. so you can blame the lots of things, but you have also this opportunities along the way. this was the largest opportunity that you did miss, wasn't it? you sent them. this is the choice, but you haven't got this. could i know it's a global narrative actually. i know it's not. uh because what meds, uh, the negotiations and then is that it was not accept listing and stuff that i need to over is to have some that was the main close. why that these negotiations,

since i'm living my accept by this to me, i'm going to don't over the years and the jobs on friday. and they did not accept exactly that. they would withdraw them and then some though to buy a ticket. and so it was the one to find the not there is another side of the the deal certain said have you had a better off? no, no, that's good. what happened is my, my question is, why is it an up to now, is not saying to the world until you have money to buy the studios? what are they about? this is the only company in the world which refuses to identify. it's bought this nothing. now is say, i mean, we find most likely him until destroyed. so starting nothing. yeah. the man may have the mission of his life to can also until the potential for the state solution . okay. well the, that, that, that is, that is your narrative. that is the public speaking of barrett's, if you just will because you accuse me of pushing israel's narrative,

but that's yours. i want to ask you how important to you is the judge of genocide against israel brought by south africa at the international court of justice. do you do respect that court? absolutely, and i do think that south africa is clinic about getting this piece and it does not go into the south africa that we have to pull out to get the quotes, throws out the south african accusation of genocide. will you accept that or accused the cause of bias? we will not the username of deals by us. you will continue to use that are going to mix old, understand what's happening. but if you allow me, when 29000 people buy this thing as i can most of the civilians and when 10000 to the different outcome in less than 3 months, i'm doing 75 percent of the horses are destroyed and all you move us citizen are destroyed and most trusted because i've destroyed and the of my he expects us now

says i'm having a fishing us out of going back just by is that i have a good many of them. and 104, i'm dealing with this like this is general side. and when, when i send you out and money out of that, is that a really, that's declare in the very beginning of the war that's on palestinians must be evicted. but i'm going to sign on that there's an intention not on the conductive mckinsey, but to conduct general side bible involved in the civilian population. israel has rejected the judge on many occasions, and we'll have to wait about several years for the court to give a final decision that may be interesting provisions that there's announces, but it could take a long time with the car. then what do you want from the court immediately if you allow me is to saying that there is a mission of genocide,

i'm to give it as an add on or the stop door, or do you will slow resent the quotes if it doesn't do that? no, no, no, we just step the we, we haven't been appealing to that, so i'm not in the criminal court for the mount vista bug. what do you, what kind of society, you talked about all the horrors that have been going on and gaza, the destruction, the death, the injuries, the lack of basic supplies, what, what kind of society could emerge from this war? after all, the physical and psychological damage, especially to children, i can literally have such a 100 even amount of damage and destruction we have to is one is to make it that isn't full of events. or another way is to make it an option. i believe and making it an option that you had in mind who was distributing the comfortable what but

deepens the business and we can rebuild our country. but we cannot to be built over time to do when we are okay. bye bye. and in my opinion, the hardwood must see us as equal human beings. that is of it. when the, when the boy that enjoys study, i'm sorry to interrupt you when the war ends. you want to see palestinian elections . you set the current crisis, you wrote to show the need for palestinians to have a unified leadership and unified into the national unity government. the majority of power standing forces groups agree with this vision. really, they've never been able to agree on anything like it in the past that allowed unity between rival sections, how many promises were made about elections and then broke. how many publishers about palestinian view the 2 decade after decade idea of the never happened? was it going to happen now, or because we've never been in such

a difficult situation as we are to the and any responsible 1st duty and politicians must accept that unity is the only way out of this mess. you know me, i've been, i've looked at, i'll tell you consideration between 500 and how much like, even with the them between them. and i was, the person who managed to convince them was creating a nation that even need to government in 2007 if that government stayed on. if the board cut it, we would have been now in a different situation. we went fed that in 2021. we were just about to have the democratic connections for the 1st time since 2006 unfortunately is the obstacle to prevent the elections. they did not allow elections enjoy those of the city and also to use that as an excuse to cancel the elections, which was a big mistake. how do we have elections in 2021? not think about the impact of started with have got an absolute majority. we would

have had to have a democratic coalition. and then a government control in both west bank and gaza and the continue to struggle to have independence, identical commission. you say this without going to but, but you've never showed that the palestinian authority in particular is never sure of much of the way of democratic credentials have. if you look at the flagrant human rights abuses committed by security services, the torture they abuse the club down of free speech. the interruption was that whole israel's fault? yes, this was not part of the know the wrong. they made them to not, not. it's not isn't as full alone, but it does lot of really isn't and it falls because it is that i in one of the city and also to, to be on the security card on them that it's, it's in the united states font in particular that if used to allow us to have democratic pre elections. okay, let's talk about the united states for

a moment because that view seems to be that any agreement must contain what they call a political horizon for the palestinians and ultimately a palestinian state. do you trust america to insist on that? again, it hasn't been part of the thinking for a very long time. has it? unfortunately, the states of america has lost them. me an opportunity to be a, to me, do you understand me the kind of between us on visitors and that's why i don't think they kind of flip out to know why they are supporting this optimal city against us. and why did the participate in the themselves by sending americans on got it to participate in it and the american advisors and, and planes it's, it's, it's, it's not too late. i don't know if i'm in the time you have to be in boshamp. in this case the united states cannot be in boston because it is becoming a total and complete strategic support. federal is a, it's an edition, i guess the student, people just about 13 by you don't have

a choice here. you don't have a choice or whatever you think of the, by the administration. a victory by donald trump in november wasn't exactly the hans, the palestinian position would. so you're going to need to work with by now whether you like it or not to the palestinian groups on the stop that we've never used to work with by didn't it's mr. advising who upstairs from doing unfulfilled his duty during the 3 years before the war started when he continued to say that the post test solution is what we need. but it's not time for that. and wednesday night, the states of america did nothing to for us, is that i have to start building 7 months, which is a united states of america mex. it's the man office to can pull it up, was the ability to state solution. so it's not our problem, it's that a problem and but let me tell you what happened with that. and guess a union these days is very dangerous for the whole one. why? because the team isn't on the united states,

out of 10 in the world that we don't have international law anymore. and that's what is done by those of younger, you know, what that would mean to other countries in this world. it would mean if you have the problem, you can do it if you want. well, at the very end, okay. can you just look at that closer, closer to hope with you. if you reject violence against civilians you've made that perfectly clear. but if the engine um, but i'm not who i've been advocating environments all my life. i understand. but opinion polls in the west bank and gaza show growing approval for violence. what's cool down resistance, just 2 months into the war. 60 percent of palestinians said they'd back a violent struggle up 10 percent from before. the conflict on palestinians tired of fighting really want more in the city of support at the resistance. it's through and then be documented that existence of this time is

a big majority of the think that many, that existence is more effective. mainly because there's an outcome the other way, which is the so when it goes to the issues, there was missed that i best and his government. but i was here. what is there any sort of have to you signing that agreement, making us compromises and get the nothing but human emotion. and as it is violation even of the sting and also to has depriving, get from, i mean also to, to whatsoever inventing all the policies and citizen, those back include the what you, we thought the guys about also about the west bank, you know, and the west bank the army has, could only be more than $540.00 people since the beginning of last year. as it goes on. on said last, i think us and said lot about receiving wife on sundays,

rarely government. so the question, i'm how much does the government be? yes, but the from the other side, whatever israel did from us was committed to its destruction. wasn't that the august 19? $88.00 governor made that clear. there's no solution that set for the palestinian question except through jihad initiatives. proposals and international conferences are a waste of time factors. how boss never wanted to talk. it only wanted the fights and by all accounts, it still does is not the truth. not exactly because yes we have such statements before, but i know exactly how from the states because i met with them and all the seasons we had, i even managed to convince them was non violence. existence for more than 5 youths during which time was that it was peaceful demonstrations. um do what i thought it was supposed to be by there. is there any side? yes. i tell you what they can exit. what was included in the national unity program of our national unity government in 2007. and it was cleared up under simeon state

on 1967. but that's including these drawers. okay. i've added up the location of that. do you want? i'm just like the sion of, of the items to the dental by the student, obviously, which is just the bottom of this if they got it. of course, of course, it's not the 2017. they said there shall be no recognition of the legitimacy of the zionist entity. so again, nothing to discuss the final lift meant to do what mr. this must have said. who is the finance minister in these through a new concept. he's not in the government. that's in the minnesota, and those are the governments. he said he called him says he wasn't shy lambert, i'm calling from central afresh just on the floor. and he said that we, he said that from the, from the bank would settlements on this. so that kind of deals with lose any of the staples that on and then they would have one of the options either to leave which

is that from the cleansing auto accept a level subjugation to is. that is, which is i thought died or died, which is, which is genocide. this is the minute the all fine the i'm, what you said wasn't able to get that by the time you know, i, on, you could sit down and look for any the position that was expressed. i'd say it's hopeless. i hope in a different way. i see the reason of the people on both sides who try to get that to find a way or out of the situation. but to accept i may have a principle which has application of international which they is up to bishop must . and as an entity point to piece between both people, how like, how long is that, how likely is a day of that's very low, your a low voice, and the very big will that this onto stability? well i, i, that's funny. i was asked this question many times,

but i respond to that by asking the question, who, who would have never thought the gentleman's unfinished people with confidence in such a way and they will be in union after having so many words. i think miss daniels lives jewish people are very much alike. we could build a field trip together together not have them to continue to fight each other. and each of you, you, you wrote, you wrote in may last year that a great number of palestinians believe the only solution left is a single democratic state on the whole of what you quoted started palestine without occupation, a positive or discrimination. in other words, a one state solution where all citizens have equal rights of equal duties. what are the makes you think of something like that is even remotely possible? because in that situation, like we have to them on the lines of historic, by this time we have about 7000000 jewish people,

about 7000000 other students to people living on the same land. one site is powerful, the other site is weak. one site is i know to buy out of the other side as well to bite. what does the solution, one of the reasons? the 1st one is to state solution which is the problem. the 2nd solution is one of the democratic states literally kind of live together equally and or exist peacefully. the only option is if mcclintic or 1st thing that's exactly what i know i'm smart, but it's all i have to do. and that's what i have to do in guzman, but that will not work. so that's why we have one or 2 options. i prefer the one of the book that i could speak. why not? and as one of my best friends daniel button on the literature, the musician taught me once, sometimes then bust him is easy of the difficult. and that's why i will never stop believing that one democratic states couldn't be both of them. i know it looks now

impossible with all these feelings over the advantage of vengeance, et cetera. but my view with you as a leader is somebody who hope to be, but other than be picking them depressed very briefly cuz we're running out of time just literally what, what if you count 5 the don't find the solution that you're looking for is october the 7th is going to happen again, and i hope not. i don't think violence is the solution to any other violence. i think that the action items, it isn't of the people on smart have to be, but look, always look forward and i've turned up this past and that's what i would continue to 2nd floor. so that's i would have people eventually we'd be free. a lot of people would be accepted as a quite human beings, as we would have all the lights on top of which should be freedom on different stuff in faculty. thanks very much for being a complex. so thank you. thank you. the

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