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this is the story as l. lopez. just over 40 years ago, she gave birth to a child imagery clinic. should have been one of the happiest moments of her life. but it turned out to be the worst the guilt video to me that is the end of the booklet letter, stacy, i don't remember anything except to moment when the bus was already over it up to relo, was leaning over me, saying i'd give him bus 2 a daughter said that she wasn't very well. so he wanted to have had baptized right away of the day. you see back level i was still very hazy and said yes to everything. the charlotte already you don't to then i left the delivery room with a non unreturned. does it like to with a baby or wrapped up in a towel. a baby says i said give your child a case and i kissed the little face and it was freezing. me so i saw the whole

bundle was ice, cold, the lady just them we for the i love the, the, the, the news. but the way that the down i found that's what the products 2 hours later talk to the came back and told me my child was dead. i'm actually at the back home, i sank into a deep depression. you did it one day, my husband came in with the newspaper and said don't event as being arrested. someone reported him for baby trafficking, southern i believe he does. a generalist was investigating the photographer, found a frozen baby in the clinics, freezer and secretly took photos. a best yeah, no, yeah, yeah, you'd have so i said to my husband for the, this is the child i was shown with o d u and then i told him the whole story that either the okay, leather is, has a be here to you'll, this is really good. that was a study of the ladies the,

the transfer, the for i to else a lopez is not an isolated case. around 300000 women in spain have had their children stolen only in the past 10 to 15 years has the full scale of the crime come to light. since then mothers have been looking for the children and children, so they're both parents. but this is proving extremely difficult because most of the evidence has been covered up the the, the origins of the child safety can be traced back to the 19 thirty's. spain was a backward impoverished, conservative country at the time. 1931 new democratic elections were

a source of high hopes, the but soon general frank coast right, we military forces stage. the crew against the young republic risk civil war ensued, with hundreds of thousands of dance. the general franco emerged victorious in 1939. and subsequently ruled with the insist about 500000 political opponents, ended up in prison among them many women who had fought for the republic, they brought the infants with them to prison. but the children would never registered, which left them dangerously vulnerable, the it'll come and then the by the, when i filled out for development, like every step in 10 to the ideological basis for the kidnapping of children that

was provided by the military psychiatrist via so not correct enough for him left us ideas were a kind of mental illness that sort of is crucial to prevent. the babies from feeding on the milk is coming that some of the democratization of the country had caused the to generation and the spanish race in order to regenerate that. the children of the red so have to be removed from the influence of their parents. any one that above all from the influence of their mother's phenomenon, the female in general had a tendency towards perversity evil. a tendency that was only intensified when women interfered in politics. they don't, as was frequently the case in the republican comment after the southern, if you see at the bottom this, this frank coast justification no phone, lisa motoring, and then presenting dissenters, but also to taking away the children and reporting the google. if you haven't know, today's leaders get better, meet the and effectively the getting

a 1940. they even created laws to save the children of republican parents. this is the, this was that before you provided a legal veneer for taking children from their parents and revoking parental custody . so it ended at the age of 3 years. the children of imprisoned women were collected from the prison by soldiers with no explanation of and taken to convince or church homeless for re education. and i think over here some of the, i think there's an opportunity of yeah, the re calvin uses research has revealed that by the end of the 1940s, some 30000 children have been abducted from the parents for political reasons. and given under full names to couples loyal to the regime or placed in hinds. ready ready according to vineyards, the church was

a willing partner and frank coast painted with increasing privileges. list yet, knowing was all things regular here either or principle to say the catholic church collaborated with front goes dictatorship. is an accurate 71, is likely say the catholic church was the heart of franco, isn't very niche, was franco is someone who comes as soon as he could. frankly, wisdom could not have existed without the catholic church for the honesty, but he's the church sees the reason to apologize to this day. it hasn't budged an inch on tiny question. the truth, i just don't want to navigate. gimme a call because i've got a except the 1945 franco, who described himself as a 70 loyal son of the church, declared catholicism to be the official state religion. further agreements granted, the church control over the education and health sect is now

nothing stood in the way of the re education and the legal adoption of red children from the fifty's on which the political rational was no longer necessary. by then, franco had spain. suddenly, in his grief the abduction of children now developed into a business model involving doctors, lawyers, and above all, the catholic church. childless couples the there ought most to present themselves as a good family. a baby cost about as much as a condominium, while adult teeth parents will lead to believe that the bus mother did not want the child. the

unmarried pregnant women were branded as full and goals or prostitutes as punishment. they was sent to church homes where they were forced to do backbreaking work, so no pay. these homes were controlled by a state institution run by franco, his wife. one such home was penya grundy, on the outskirts of madrid. now a modern school, nothing recalls the disappearance of hundreds of new bones there up until the early 19 eighties. however, old footage shows how things were back then. dolores gomez, right, and impregnated by her own father when she was 15, also remembers when the goddess nobody made. okay. they put it once on. i'm to say that the she's supposed to be and when you arrived and your grand a as a pregnant young go, the nuns didn't ask how long you,

but rather what happened. do you want to keep the child or give it up for adoption syrup? and so i was good in that moment. i don't think any of us that even thought about the question, guess we were still getting used to on you invited your boss of never that hard, but they didn't let how they kept questioning till they had you stuff. don't this? uh huh. to. and this is a young single go, no family in the background, which means no one will ask questions and the case if and the don't forget about that. and i didn't even after that, they would just, i'm relenting from what i can do that's give your child up for adoption. and it can grow up in a good christian family as god will. and some of this month to know what to say to you and be able to raise the child any way to know what's happening. you know, was anything if you're enough space. i said i love it was so brutal list. yeah, i got to leave it out, but it was that the,

the also consuelo garcia dale said was one of the 1st to take a close look at child trafficking and penny a grunting through facebook. she contacted women who were in turns there and recorded the stories, a separate unit, a couple of stablish, but my area and they'll say to me, i run into this, jesse and i'll probably tell it was in the human once again. tonight, the nuns even took advantage of the women's name of painters. they left the pregnant woman alone in a room, a cold, and they do have sorrows. and when the pain go to unbearable, they came with the adoption paper and said, well have your baby a jump to sign. now see the sign now to mail it out. and if not doing what they do often say you'll baby has to be incubated. it's very similar to that. i looked at the incubators where one flora, and after 2 days they tell you, your child has died in your some way and said, yeah, those, those,

they're sending them with them. that these children will not dead if they've been given up for adoption in and out of the yeah, the elsa lopez's child was also pronounced dead in the madrid maternity hospital and allegedly buried the same day without her the mother being permitted to attend the funeral. some women who had been told similar lives have since had the graves of their allegedly dead children opened and found them empty. the medicaid of the lucky yep. at the time they told me at the clinic said they'd

vary to my child here in a mood in a symmetry maker when he got, but it was an i, as i realized, lake vi to another. and this and yes, of course i went to the cemetery administration, but they didn't know anything. they don't see it that much later off this other inquiries they claimed today that i read the remains that the corpse and anonymous mass grave. this was the custom when no one came forward within 10 years. this year i filed a cool complaint and also took it to the police or they got their response then was to say that they didn't informed me of everything at the time. and that got them been of us. yes. and i still don't even know where this alleged mass grave is supposed to be. and i mean, just that like in rough or 2nd, why or the cover ups? why the silence for continues to this day explains bloodless transition from dictatorship to democracy, came at a high price, says both as

a phone. he was one spines, most famous judge, prosecuting crimes against humanity. the will doza internationally reviewed and nominated for the nobel peace prize. gallstone failed in his own country. in 2009, he was the 1st day of prosecute the crimes of the franco dictatorship in spain, including the 5th of 30000 children from republican parents. his investigations prompted an accusation of abuse of office on grounds of his violating the 1977, amnesty little the guaranteed impunity for post perpetrate has no further charge heard by the supreme court which met with public protest and intense media interest . he was removed from office and banned from practicing his profession for 11 years . um, what is the other one though?

the only comment when franko died, theoretically it could have meant the end of repression. but in reality, nothing changed to video. that should have been a rupture, a democratic reckoning. yeah, but it's always responsible. so franco, his regime should have been held accountable for their abuses. but that didn't happen. so would it go on through the whole c, c, a spanish, jude history, close the ice to it all. it was the same judges as during franco's arazola nice. there was no transparency whatsoever. you established, it wasn't even a symbolic break with a dictatorship. it was and is a positive sign, and that's why the spanish state hasn't investigated the kidnapping of children. well, the other crimes of the franco era, even though they are all crimes against humanity and so the franco dictatorship, which lasted almost 40 years, continues to shape the country to these day. since gallstones owls to argentina

who's trying to continue his work, the victims of baby snatching to enjoying a lawsuit in the odds and teeny and coolants against the perpetrators of franco is a glimmer of hope. as the lopez often meets up with fellow suffer is that common fight unites them feel. navarro is also still looking for her daughter and christina moore, i show for her son in law. could you see that? but if i, so going to get a house, the little susie notion, tina going p e leslie forest k 0 at the info. there's a total stands to let the moment a conflict on the horses. the spanish authorities are still refusing to cooperate with the argentine in judiciary. april official cassettes have you, we've tried everything, they will not gone to the highest court as of days to see on,

but nothing has come of it. good. been the last bit on 2nd. most and yes, it sad hopes that come to nothing in this though, so need those as well. by the way, i've had a genetic test done in the us, it's been feeling at any the genetic test in the us increases the chance of finding relatives because the u. s. has the world's launch is databases of genetic profiles for comparison. these matching process really occurs in spanish and the bar trees flatow is k is i'm i, you're the other. no, that's why the majority of us have the dna tests done in the us army, the condo human, which we also distrust with the genetic look bar trees. in this country, komatsu caraway strange things happening like it says, the test is negative when in fact it is positive. fit in this and things like that . don't come via the 1st week of october, the 30th communal florida level. and i thought you get for it up and there's 2 new

state run dna lab for us in spain for us that, that so he's been on the phone for a long time now. so and then, and we don't trust the private lab rather back in because we know that many of them are connected to ultra conservative clerical or political cycle con legless m r f. who is certainly not interested in bringing the crimes of the franco era to line caused by the ticket at the bottom, so that they study gabby to understand the delta a villa is considered one of the key figures in the nationwide network of baby traffic is you know the 1000 cases, victims named team and he's the assistant system, maria, from the order of the daughters of charity as the perpetrators. despite being reported dozens of times, dr. villa continued to work with impunity. in 2018

challenges were finally brought against him. in one single case, as reported by the spanish press, the 85 year old appeared in court for the oral hearing, where he stated for the record, but he couldn't remember anything. is the next day the trial was suspended due to the defendant's health problems. 5 months later, villa was found guilty, but was acquitted to, to the statute of limitations for the crime. in 2019, he died. many spanish knowns were involved in the baby snatching. but system maria. dr. villas, right hand woman, was the alleged main perpetrator. yet she too was not charged until 2 cases in 2012 of the non by then in her late eighty's refuse to testify.

shortly before a new trial date, the order announced that she had died suddenly and had already been buried. why did the order only announce system maria's passing after she had allegedly been quietly buried wise and next he mation as demanded by victims groups still the 9 to this day in 2015 it emerge. the 2 different death certificates exist, the original signed by the physician. doctor beto co has a different sequence of digits than the copy. oddly enough, doctor barrow county was not even the attending physician. however, his father was a friend of dr. villa system, maria's former pulse since our interview request was denied, we visited

a doctor barrow call at home. how does he explain the different death certificates? however, he was not up the talking at the registry office. the different number sequences coolest. pressed on the shipment. or get out the channel. i mean, it didn't mean to the head of the department promised to look into the mask that she would email us in a week at the latest. but despite several follow up inquiries, we received no answer. no st. kiddos. finally, we searched for the grave of the daughter of charity in the sand whose though symmetry and madrid with system, maria is purportedly buried are officially the symmetry of thores. these are not allowed to tell any one with the grave is located. the religious order does not meet at last, but not least,

we visited the order of the daughters of charity. although they too refused us an official interview. a short conversation ensued. a sister died. we don't give statements, no comment. no who our lives on to ashamed of what sister maria did know why a sister did what she had to do. we loved her as she is, she did her job well. the common del mazda was also once a nun in the order of the daughters of charity. on sundays, she often help system, maria, at the o'donnell clinic and was surprised that the flow where the incubators were located was always closed off on that day. no one was gone to the entry, only lights or did she find out that babies was sold there on sundays?

maybe the ice store and not to forge, don't human answered, although i also so women coming into the clinic with a pillow under the addresses and then walking out with a baby in there around them. is that he that i'm not accusing all of assist this from the former order, but those who participated in these crimes must be punished by the state justice system notes by the judge in york. i want to touch the guy deals. i wanted to help people. yeah. so i became a, none of the me, but i gradually realized how intolerant the church was. that it was on the side of how well a notes on this side of the pool, the whatever the level of the, what does the official church in spain said to the accusations? what does it think about the baby theft? we asked, co said, shall vieira, communications director of the a piece ship it when i drop it. okay. and that's where they actually weigh it out.

at least that got the i don't think you can say the catholic church was involved in the baby theft to get it hasn't been confirmed by any court decision or otherwise. there were some perpetrators who may have been associated with the church who worked in church institutions for setting up the church as an institution has nothing to do with the baby steps. it's individuals who acted on their own initiative ability got to blame the church as an institution. it's kind of a range of simple even fun thing about a family, you know. so could someone like system, maria have been selling children for years without her own and knowing it bounces, but i so such an explanation would have to be substantiated in court. the court would then have to decide whether an institution should be prosecuted because it had knowledge of certain actions of its members for that either you and there, i can determine that. so no problem was that they gave me to new york. the

madrid's hospital district was the center of the baby abductions up until the 19 ninety's. they with thousands of cases kia alone in spain as a whole, close to 20000 cases have been reported in the last 15 years. move in 90 percent of the cases have been shelved, the risk of making little progress. it's a matter of too many falls leads into little interest on the part of the judiciary . says journalist marie jose, as this will prove it to years. he's been trying to track down the truth. doing this. the guy though, who run through the assign yourself to say in the course of my 10 years of research shows, i discovered numerous sports papers that prove the baby abduction in a movie. one example is a document where a clinic doctor gave the cause of death to several babies as a title,

which is upset because of tied to is a homeless ear infection. he got the on that, but on sundays, according to the dumped his signature, 5 children died from a title in the us. the numbers even when top is especially before christmas and around the tiffany. because the demand for babies was particularly high that he was there is a bus out on a farm. even babies were a popular christmas gift low spots because the family wanted to be socially acceptable. in those days. they had to have children. they specify because e, england, and there's a couple couldn't have children is their own. that lessons and they just went and bought one to the coma cnn kid a bought his step rustic on the spot is, is pissed off the english piece of the catholic church. clearly supported these practices. for example, i discovered a pre black to explaining to a couple exactly how to proceed from selecting the baby of the maternity hospitals . do you want me to picking it out and registering it? does that?

do you want to say we're making noise? is to you whether it was spain, ireland, australia, sheila, or arch in tina. the catholic church was always involved in babies matching. how could it has come to these to fit in a well, that means when religion makes it packed with a powerful and gets rewarded with privileges and becomes and tolerance, entire guns and religion is an instrument of power. of course the happy movements in the catholic church that of trying to break the pattern, for example, liberation, theology in latin america, and also some clergy in this country. but there's still that other very dock side of the charge that prevents the truth coming out. yeah, it's round to itself in silence and there's going away with it to that to this very day. she lives here. even

although according to a recent survey, bailey 19 percent of the spanish population are still practicing catholics. the power of the church exists on its block is still strong today, a promise sent on drew an x priest from the yoga attribute space primarily to the churches and beg you with sexual morality. and when they go pick out, it will say it's the only send that really counts for the trash is facts. yeah. by declaring sex the same so you can dominate the faithful whatever we have. the homeless on time drew was raped as a child by a priest. when he disclosed the abuse, the bishop rebuked him. he was the scene of. he'd seduced the priest. but for some time drew, it's about more than his personal experience is he's particularly disgusted by the church as involvement in the baby abductions that too could only work. he believes,

because the nuns were trapped in a sexually hostile system, like leasing opinion. like once you get that ready to be seen, the piece of his day, the chat believes that they were doing good to meet the 50. the non took away a woman's baby because in a non size and unmarried woman, was it prostitutes not fit to be a mother? i mean, you know, so she was saving the child by giving it to affluent christian people. that was the belief use that is like, well here's the so the institution is the church, the baby trade was a profitable business. but for the individual none, it had nothing to do with money. i'm ok, the little guy, whatever. but if you had the money she received for the sale of the children was not looking forward and she took it straight to the mother superior look, you know, if you want to, we know for a non, when you don't give her money,

would you give her a pilot, it shows her the keys to the delivery really the keys to a pallet. well that that's how you get out on your site. but i didn't ask you on them for that the or perhaps some nuns going stuck into kind of treadmill. the demand for children kept increasing collateral, inc guy. so those kinds of space and it says 2 or 3 cases, they could suddenly have told themselves, we'll say this child a moment, but as time went on, the demand, multi piety level, at some point the non wasn't concerned with saving a child. but with getting the job done and will come looking good in front of her boss, the doctor, and also the doctor's wife, needed a child and i'm gonna call the wife at the kennel general. at 1st she was supposed to procure a child maybe once a year, but then once a month they to once a week will need and maybe eventually and i mean every day. yeah,

keep this out or by the church. she's silence on the matter and keeps its archives closed. and the victims lancaster on united movement to force clarification that such as he has he and there's but on the fed and kind of it's a mess. yes, it's really a problem that we didn't join forces and there were just too many victim groups guessing folks down in problems and petty jealousies. to that it brings the appeal . what we need is one strongly agree with one or 2. no is a little that would get the publicity we need. there's a must have the data the most of course the sinus he has forgotten office and the government. so this is something that he had that he had a seat in most his title in congress on those say novel. we have been to congress in bones the senate dot com get him already promised his promises by sunday, but nothing happened. it was okay, but it and then it said basically waiting for us to give up for dying. what in the

almost most of mothers have died in the meantime. e, the crate is to of course k, i need to expose go daily to support it, only smoke. oh no, margaret, when the 5th mother who's lost a child's thoughts campaigning for the truth. she went stone, you know, she caught up in the and so we'll continue to, we've done most of talking no more than the, the solid dod luca delgado who's looking for her twin brother as also being campaigning . so many years, she found that a victim support group and is the press spokes person for the joint action lawsuit, the knowledge and tina. and perhaps most importantly, she introduced a bill in the spanish parliament that requires the state to recognize child abduction as a crime against humanity is not a full service. it's an absolutely crucial law for the victims of baby snatching.

because it would finally compel the state to search for the disappeared children to deal with the individual cases and to bring the culprit to justice. specifically, we demand 1st and foremost, the opening of the archives, the state, and probably basically that is because it's the specialty that i'm asking for in the case of private all kinds. we're particularly interested in the archives of the catholic church, which is being hermetically sealed to this day. it's imperative that the church finally opens these archives and make schools irrelevant him to make chanel testable. not only so that the victims can learn the truth, but also says that they can finally conduct research into their own respective cases. in $1000.00, we are not asking for money for the need on any kind of compensation. low nick, okay, the only thing we're asking for is psychological and medical health, but as a donation to help civic tennessee mass made,

but it comes up to 50 and i live that i made the se on now. in barcelona, we need to consolidate. present. who has been searching for his biological routes for over 20 years. he's lost faith in the goodwill of politics, viet. negligent force, if even if the church were legally obliged to open its archives to take immediate legal action, the years were passed before anything actually happened. english, i know it goes most cases of infant abduction followed a similar passion involving doctors, nuns and nurseries. in barcelona, there was an additional profit to you here until the 1970s show safety care us ran an ultra catholic relief organization that will fit young single pregnant women apartments extensively as a retreat to hide. the shame from the public on the garris also took care of all

the women's medical arrangements from hospitalization to delivery. once the child was born, the business operation began. according to investigations, find the public prosecutor's office. around 2000 newborns was sold by jo, safety care us desperate unmarried young mothers with coaxed into worst into giving upset babies. all the infants were declared, still borne by medical accomplices, consolidate posts, and he's one of these stolen children. his mother had died and his father was suffering from dementia. when he 1st sold the documents that showed something was wrong. in his birth certificate, the crucial entry was missing the name of his parents, the interstate. actually, i discovered fairly quickly that i hadn't even be legally adopted,

which sold by for garrison. i don't know. that's a huge difference. of course, i can logically sort of the introduce the documents to his perception of a happy childhood. and he trying to get more information once again for us. who was this man? a form a keeps going up. he quickly worked his way up through to the highest church circles before handing over a child to adoptive parents. pierre us 1st had them to what cost with him on christian child rearing. and the babies had to be baptized. it all happened here in the rectory and didn't the police seem a concepcion church? a nickel means that ok. last populations a lot know assessing dicey that you discover more about my birth. i went to the nuns who worked with joseph vigorous from 1967 to 1974. and they told me

i, that's very difficult to find out anything yet because there was a big flood that destroyed all the archives. the only other option will just try it again a week later, but i didn't, i forgot about it. and they told me that there being a fire years ago, which had destroyed all the document photo 9 and nothing on the yellow one. i didn't call off the docs and postpone the policy of sale. my gosh, i don't think would probably be of tells me in a beautiful casino going to be for maybe an earthquake and then i'd be swallowing up all the documents and even have the properties we visit the religious order, which has been linked to east introductions on numerous occasions to old nuns welcome us, but when we say we journalists, they have friendly smiles fade. that was a long time ago. it was in the eighty's in some hospitals,

but it has nothing to do with us. it's almost like this. we are tired of talking about this subject. you gen lists claims, things that are not true. i'm sorry if it sounds vulgar, but the more you deal with shit when the more it starts to sing and much really we also meet a notary who signed forced adoption papers put together as at the time. what does he have to say about people still searching in vain for their identity? what do you mean those consent and go to the residence registration office in barcelona at any time and ask for that bus certificate to get it immediately? that's nothing to hide. but those concerns present, it's quite different. maybe the the go, but those still pages, they just want them noted for what it's what, so they say they stoled me, so there's nothing behind it. there's nothing new to

consolidate posts and these will acquainted with all the lines and cover ups. and i'm gonna send you that one out and get into effect is not a single document has been handed over and nobody attempts to knowing anything about us. on the contrary, they all believe things acted for the better. good. for me personally, i've given a copay that i keep going for, for especially for my daughter. so she will know one day where she comes from school, she had to draw a family tree. the top of the tree was empty. tell you, i think the winds in to spine told the premises because the church not opened its all kinds to this day. and the said to us about the does have to lose the subsidy, was the last nothing is due to of these children are actually stored mainly in the

archives of public institutions. for instance, in the archives of the maternity awards and clinics where the babies were born. and then stone and the church archives. on the other hand, slip up to smooth registers sent to you. they never stored such data except they're only interested in the religious side of a person. nothing would be noted that could give any indication of a child's origins. no sooner baptism or registers are not a suitable means of finding out where this child comes from. what there's a stone or not. so i'm saying, you know, they listen to me though they sending you see, i see, don't know. i don't know. the amnesty international disagrees with these statements and points out the church. all kinds do have documents that could help victims in this search. the clues, after all, the majority of maternity clinics and maternity hines well under church management to ring the franco era. only a few mothers and children have found each other,

but even their disappointment is often inevitable. if expectations are too high the your in the well experience here. i once thought i had found my daughter when there was quite to match in the same clinic in madrid, my the same day to best i miss must be bad. and so we had to dna testing, and i mean, but unfortunately the result was negative for not again our full time for now i do i use that. are you really drunk one throw me in. and even if i were to find my son today to that, that it's might not be the dream ending with autoplay, but he wouldn't want to know anything about mandel. yeah. would be terrible. i mean, hires me s huh. they don't mean he gave me a fault. those me whole easiest of even the of course you have to lower your

expectations of this child is now in idle civil most 40. yes. perhaps shaped by influence does. you wouldn't like what is that? just got a warranty? the hosting of the need that's good for the expect that the best basically i no longer believe all that's assigned to my door so that the other thing is it was in the other hands. i often think what it is, this child is happy with her adoptive parents. why should i bring her back into my wealth? yes, either for at least what i want is my child to know. i know that i didn't give her away and i wasn't to prostitute or any ghost as i said, it feels like any that she was stolen from me thinking and this i never stopped loving. how would that be with this? but it did. it was so that it's like dealing with anything else is or not, but as the to the tech a they who are, they get it. and that's all i care about and say the solution they'd be there in that i don't that in throw hazel's leave, but of time it's so late in the

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