of the treasure map for martin club to describe it as some of us wriggled, begging sites on youtube and also the, the israel, how boss was moved briefly to an open courtroom with the hague. as the international court of justice hud accusations that, as well had committed genocide, gaza palestinians, welcome to move, including my guess was stuff about booty, the westbank, who had the policy. the national initiative was the one from the court immediately to allow me just to say that there is a mission of genocide and to give it as an add on or the stop know, faculty diploma is violent and forgets all civilians. but he was of special combinations of israel. so how will the war and how will the hatreds of good faith?

can garza ever be rebuilt and the best of future be salvage? of all the suffering of destruction? the weapons are complex. thank you, but to be with you, you've said that as well is failing. it's because i had a it was in the cause of war, but jerusalem exists it. how boss will be liquidated, and the fighting will go up until that happens. do you seriously about israel is ability to achieve as a absolutely, i'm not on the mean. i think the media isn't really that is like, i think got was a number of the what had been a thought saying the same. isn't that nothing you know, is trying to create an impossible mission by trying to just to, by how much, how much is not just them, any type of structure? it's much this is much bigger than that. and the, i don't think the, this, this is a good, that should be the sort i think that i have, which is to ask,

what can be done to in this for the situation. yes, but let's put in a come back. how about a minute to find a city a group is classified as a terrorist organization. jeopardy, the you, us, do you really think at some point as well, we'll just give up the fight against it is all right, and we'll have to make these was all the listing is including time us. there is no other way. eh, meant then, and book your patient is not the solution thinking goals, ethnic cleansing as a solution is also impossible. so there is only one way in and the, to my knowledge how most wouldn't be able to do to accept the listing. and steve, within that acts of that expected to step solution that's design austin. but to continue with this occupation will not be plunder solution onto piece. i want to get into just what kind of future you envisage for the palestinians

a bit later. but there's been a huge debate around the world about the force of israel's response to what happened on october. the 7th you have of course, condemned that responds. but on send me this, if you will, if a single day, how much must have good hundreds of his race in the west attack of jew since the 2nd world war, women and children of people would murder some or even right to a sexually abused for some of the we're actually in the peace movement is it time that how was there as well supposed to react to that press the let's, i agree that i do not accept that. can you go to the injury and go to the human? do you think i need to be on the scene now known as the name? but i don't think that the fact that csr isn't any the children would come, that the just unacceptable is or justification for couldn't $10000.00 brothers to me until the death is unacceptable. but you're not the, i'm the,

i'm the history of the not started. i'm just events of october. the big question here is, how many pundits doing ends up being killed since 1948. and what happened before the 7th of october. and so we have time, i can describe that, but i think the message, the other thing is we have receiving that isn't as does not belong to, these does not belong to an hour, but other students, students and intuition and nothing else in the united nations and kind of the model is showing the annexation of not on the list. ben, also, guys are the cdn, okay. by the heights. nothing you know is declaring company do not use the best prime minister to prevent a listing in states. so what is the best solution to plan on violence? is it to continue the environmental garza, which has already taken the lives of $29000.00 people? if we include the people on the table or to find a different monthly winter,

you'll have an ard. so my question, which was, how was israel supposed to respond to what happened on october the 7th, we could get it to the history we will get into the history. but, but what kind of response would you expect israel to have made? i'm didn't how much expected it would be exactly what happened exactly what happened? look at how much it, how is it? as responded with boom, bottom into guts, continuously for see leaks using on types of s. dikes, the dentist line, 70 percent of all the houses income. you know, according to the most recent because of the points during the 2nd world war, january has on the 10 percent of all the homes and does that and get unlimited storage unit on 2nd. what is it i'm not,

does not do anything the proportion of the different thoughts out of this person that yeah, well what would it be in proportion? but what would it be that 400, you know, what would be proportional just to see it to the was enough, is enough with the settlement violence. we don't want this to continue and the end of the patient. so i am not meant to conduct the thought and i know that you can killed the patient if you concentrate on the symptom of that event, the cause of the disease. do you think you're not saying that how boss is a was, as i said earlier, to provoke israel and to doing exactly what it did, provoked must've been that tre retaliation and then condemn israel for it. no, i don't think so. i don't think i must expect to have this kind of an edge. i don't think so. maybe if they knew what, what was what going to happen? maybe they would have to revise the plans. i don't know, i'm not in the mines, but i know that we've been living so 75 for use of oppression of the displacement of ethnic cleansing, which affect up 70 percent of the palestinian people. i know that 70 percent of the

national guys that have bills if you use the live buyers that are in the 1948, i'm the one that goes it has to be on the siege for 17 years with no electricity, no water, the water? no, no economy, 80 percent of the people. what i do kid live on employee and 70 percent. what on the positive and what, what did that lead to? i know that's kind of sticking on. signed an agreement. i piece, i agree mental it is or what they accept it, a very painful compromise. a state of 22 percent of the, of the historic palestine. all the united nations said we shouldn't have 44 percent . i'm still isn't and wouldn't accept. i know that nathaniel was needing this was made that right mention wait, wait, like wait a minute in december 2000 and president clinton. that who that excuse me, israel and who would back overdue. a state on 95 percent of the

west bank, a 100 percent of the gaza strip with land swaps to compensate for the sacraments controller that are barriers of east jerusalem divided sovereignty over the holy sides. provision for the return of many palestinian refugees to the new state. it was even by the reckoning of palestinian company. the data is the best deal that you what ever offered of yasser arafat turned it down. so you can blame the lots of things, but you have also missed opportunities along the way. this was the largest opportunity that you did miss watson, that you sent them. this is the short what you haven't got this could i know it's a global narrative. actually. i know it's not uh because what meds, uh the negotiations and then is that is that it was not accept this thing. and so, but i need to over is to have some that was the main close. why that these

negotiations fence and visit my accept by this to me, i'm going to don't over the years and the jobs on friday. and they did not accept exactly that. they would withdraw this happened months from 0 to $500.00 times. so it was the one find the not there is another side of that the deal certain said have you had a better off? no, no, that's good point. i'm just my, my question is, why is it an up to now is not saying to the world until you have the money. i have to buy the studios. what are they about? this is the only company in the world which refuses to identify. it's about this. nothing now is saying, i mean we find most likely him until destroyed, so slugged him. nathaniel, the man may have the dimension of his life to can also the potential for the 2 state solution. okay. well the that, that, that is, that is your narrative. that is the public speaking the barrier to if you just because you accused me of pushing. israel is narrative,

but that's yours. i want to ask you how important to you is the judge of genocide against israel brought by south africa at the international court of justice. do you do respect that court? absolutely. and i do think that south africa is clinic about the dispute, and it does not go incident that south africa that i'd have to call out to get the quotes, throws out the south african accusation of genocide. will you accept that or accused the course of bias? we will not have to learn about bills by us. you will continue to that are going to make the world understand what's happening. but if you allow me, when 29000 people spell, this thing is i can mostly civilians when 10000 until different outcome in less than 3 months. i'm doing 75 percent of the horses. i've destroyed an audio move us citizen and most trusted because i've destroyed. and the of my music stopped us now

since i'm having a fishing us out of them by just by isn't it, i'm a good many of them. and 104, i'm dealing with this like this is general side. and when, when i send you out and money out of that is that i really, that's declare in the very beginning of the war that's on palestinians must be evicted. but i'm going to sign on that there's an intention not on the conduct is mckinsey, but to conduct general side bible involved in the civilian population. israel has rejected the judge on many occasions, and we'll have to wait that several years for the court to give a final decision that may be interesting provisions that is announces, but it could take a long time will go to the court. then what do you want from the court immediately if you allow me is to saying that there is a mission of genocide and to give it as an add on or death to stop the door. and

you will still resent the quotes if it doesn't do that. no, no, no, we have to step the we, we haven't been appealing to that international criminal court for the mount vista bug. what do you, what kind of society, you talked about all the horrors that have been going on and gaza, the destruction, the death, the injuries, the lack of basic supplies, what, what kind of society can emerge from this war? after all, the physical and psychological damage, especially to children i see you literally have such a 100 bill, amount of damage and destruction we have to is. one is to make it that isn't for the events or another way is to make it an option. i believe and making it an option that you had in mind who was distributing the comfortable what but deepens

the business and we can rebuild our country. but we cannot to be built over the country when we are okay. bye bye. and my opinion, the hardwood must see us as equal human beings with eyes of it. when the when the boy was, sorry, i'm sorry to interrupt you when the war ends. you want to see palestinian elections . you set the current crisis, you wrote to show the need for palestinians to have the unified leadership and unified into the national unity government. the majority of published in forces groups agree with this vision. really, they've never been able to agree on anything like it in the past that allowed unity between rival sections, how many promises were made about elections and then broken. how many publishers about palestinian you the 2 decade after decade? yeah, of the never happened. was it going to happen now, or because we've never been in such

a difficult situation as we are to the and i knew this also been by a student on addition must accept that unity is the only way out of this mess. you know me, i've been, i've looked at, i'll say the constitution between 500 and how much i even redid them between them. and i was, the person who managed to convince them was creating a national unity government in 2007 if that government stayed on. if the world does not, the boy cut it. we would have been now in a different situation. we went fed that in 2021. we were just about to have the democratic connections for the 1st time since 2006 unfortunately is the obstacle to prevent the elections. they did not allow elections, enjoy those in the city, and also to use that as an excuse to cancel the elections, which was a big mistake. how do we have elections in 2021? know, think about the info starting with have got an absolute majority. we would have had

to have a democratic coalition and then a government control in both west bank and gaza and then on to not just have to have independence identical to patients. you say this without going to but, but you've never showed that the palestinian authority in particular is never showed much of the way of democratic credentials have. if you look at the flagrant human rights abuses committed by the security services, the torture they abuse the top down of free speech. they and that's the way the interruption was that whole israel's fault. yes, this was not part of the you know, the wrong. they made them to not, not, it's not isn't as full alone, but it does. lot of really isn't and it falls because it is that i in one of the city and also i need to be on the security card on them that it's, it's in the united states font in particular that if used to allow us to have democratic, pre elections, okay, let's talk about the united states for

a moment because that view seems to be that any agreement must contain what they call a political horizon for the palestinians and ultimately a palestinian state. do you trust america to insist on that? again, it hasn't been part of the thinking for a very long time, has it. unfortunately, the states of america has lost them an opportunity to be a total mediator. and that's going to be the kind of between us and visitor and, and that's why i don't think they kind of flip out to know why they are supporting this optimal city against us. and why the participate in the themselves by sending americans phone got it to participate and it's on the american advisors and, and planes. it's expensive to plan. i don't know if i mean, do you have time you have to be in by shop. in this case, the united states cannot be in boston because it, this becoming a total and complete strategic support. federal is a, it's an edition, i guess the student, people just about 13 by you don't have

a choice here. you don't have a choice or whatever you think of the bite, the ministration. a victory by donald trump in november wasn't exactly the hans, the palestinian position would. so you're going to need to work with by now, whether you like it or not to the palestinian groups on the stop that the reason i refused to work was by didn't. it's mr. biden who, upstairs. i'm doing excellent from his duty during the 3 years before the war started when he continued to say that the post test solution is what we need. but it's not time for that. and wednesday night, the states of america did nothing to for us, is that i have to start building 7 months, which is a united states of america mex, it's the man office to can pull it up with the ability to state solution. so it's not our problem, it's not a problem, but let me tell you what, what, what happened with that, and guess a union these days is very dangerous for the whole one. why? because the team isn't on the united states, out of 10 in the world,

that we don't have international law anymore. and that's what is done by those of younger, you know, what that would mean to other countries in this world. it would mean if you have a problem, you can do it if you want. well, at the very end, okay. can you just look at that closer, closer to her with you? you reject violence against civilians you've made that perfectly clear. but if the gentleman but i'm not loving advocating environments all my life, i understand but opinion polls in the west bank and gaza show growing approval for violence. what's cool down resistance, just 2 months into the war. 60 percent of public opinion said they'd back a violent struggle up 10 percent from before. the conflict on palestinians tired of fighting really want more. the city of support at the resistance is through and then be documented that existence of this fund. i think most of the

deals, and i think that many times it is distance is more effective mainly because there's an outcome the other way, which is the so when you go to the issues, there was missed. i best this government, but i was here. is there any sort of have to use signing that agreement, making us compromises and get the nothing but human emotion. and as it is violation even of the sting and also to has depriving, get from, i mean, also to do what so ever inventing all the policies and citizens those back include the what you we thought the guys about also about the west bank, you know, and the west bank, the army has, could only be more than $540.00 people since the beginning of last year. and it goes on and said last, i think us and said lot about receiving work on sundays,

early government. so the question, i'm how much does the government be? yes, but the from the other side, whatever israel did from us was committed to its destruction. wasn't that the august 19? $88.00 governor made that clear. there's no solution that set for the palestinian question except through jihad initiatives. proposals and international conferences are a waste of time factors. how boss never wanted to talk. it only wanted the fights and by all accounts, it still does is not the truth. not exactly because yes we have such statements before, but i know exactly how from the states because i met with them and all that, even with the issues we had, i even managed to convince them was non violence resistance for more than 5 youths during which time was that it was peaceful demonstrations um do what i thought it was supposed to be by the is there any side? yes. i do you what they can accept? what was included in the national unity program of our national unity government in

2007 and it was cleared up under simeon state on 90 a 67. but that's including these drawers. okay. i've added up the location of that . do you want? i'm just like the sion of, of the items to the dental about a student, obviously, which is just the bottom of this if they got it of cost of cost. it's not 12017. they said there shall be no recognition of the legitimacy of desire this entity. so again, nothing to discuss the lift meant to do what mr. must have said. who is the finance minister in israel? and you can say he's not in the government that's in the minnesota, and there is there any government. he said he called him says he wasn't aware of what i'm calling from central afresh. just wonderful. and he said that we, he said that is from the, from the bank with several months answer to this. so that kind of deals with those . i mean, whole staples good on. and then they would have one of the options either to leave,

which is that from the cleansing auto accept life subjugation to is that is which is our prototype all by which is, which is genocide. this is the minute the all fine the i'm, what you said was able to get that by the time you know, i, on, you could sit down and look for any of these 3 position that was expressed as it's hopeless. i hope in a different way. i see the reason of the people on both sides who could but i took that to find the out of the situation, but to accept i may have a principle which has application of international which says, occupation must end as an entity point just above go to when i, i respond, i was asked this question many times, but i just spoke to them by asking the question, who, who would have thought that the gentleman is unfinished, even with the company and in such a way and they will be in union after having so many words,

i think we have the promise, daniels, like jewish people, are very much like we could build a field trip together together not have them to continue to fight each other. and each of you, you, you wrote, you wrote in may last year that a great number of palestinians believe the only solution left is a single democratic state on the whole of what you quoted started palestine without occupation, a positive or discrimination. in other words, a one state solution where all citizens have equal rights of equal duties. what are the makes you think that something like that is even remotely possible? because in that situation, like we have to them on the land of historic, by this time we have about 7000000 jewish people, about 7000000 people living on the same land. one site is powerful, the other site is weak. one site is i know to buyer to the other side as well to

fight. what is the solution? one of the reasons, the 1st one is to state solution, which is the problem. the 2nd solution is one of the democratic states literally can live together equally and, or exist peacefully. the only have the option because if mcclintic or 1st thing, that's exactly what nothing, you know, once more footage of trying to do. and that's what, that's what i have to do in government, but that will not work. so that's why we have one or 2 options. i have the one of the book that i could speak. why not? and as one of my best friends daniel button on the list for the waiting on user should've told me once, sometimes then bust him is easy of the difficult. and that's why i will never stop believing that and wondering what kind of steps going to be possible. i know it looks now impossible with all these feelings over the advantage of vengeance, etc. but my view with you as a leader is somebody home to people. and i go to then be picking them depressed

very briefly cuz we're running out of time just literally what, what if you can't find the adult, find the solution that you're looking for is october. the 7th is going to happen again. and i hope not. i don't think violence is the solution to any other violence . i think the national and it isn't of the people on smart to be, but look, always look for another type of dispatch. and that's what i would continue to 2nd floor so that i would have people eventually we'd be free. a lot of people would be accepted as equal human beings. and we would have all the lights on top of which should be freedom on different stuff in fargo too. thanks very much for being a complex. so thank you. thank you. the

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