people have to say that's why we listen to every weekend on d w. the. have you ever heard the term job palm? well, it's quite a buzzword in nigeria, and it's basically describes how masses of young people are picking up and leaving the country to search for better opportunities elsewhere. we met some of these people and prepared best stories here for you at the 77 percent live show and i'm your host to date here's what's coming up in bold. yeah, we need an id expert who has said his eyes on a job in canada. in our street debate, 8 us kamani f nigeria and flies so many young people want to migrate

and we find out why tamika a young professional move to germany despite her comfortable job back home. have you ever been at a place in your life where you had to take some drastic measures to change your situation? well, that's exactly the position that victor okay. full of found himself in a master's degree in his hand, but no job inside. he will soon say good bye to his home, city of boucher to start a new life in canada to and he's just one of many nigerian youth with a similar dream. the hustle and bustle, the every day struggled. the reason why many nigerians went to my ever these days been job for 760 thanks my gm's list. they need to collect a form to the ritual. yes. the trying to maybe for management up, i'm just a word that holds the power to ignited dreams of

a new life. the possible recipe to success. jeff up, meaning sleet, or escaping your robot, has become synonymous with a burning desire to my bull. you know, you, these kind of things that i loved behind. so to hi, this amazing vision business list because i kind of invest the deluxe here. i just talked to mrs. go, just for greener pastures to see grandma passes in, out of the country. the expert of victoria. ok, so that has gotten to jump in canada and he is ready to start over in a foreign country since graduating. he's kept himself afloat with his shoes selling business, and i teach skills. but what he really wanted was a prestigious white color job play a past 4 years has upgraded that and i've been, you know, doing the front end of business is always me. it's my degree my, my size i, you know, going to pine. i try to make my name by slow. yeah,

i don't think it's what's called me like do we? i expected. so that's um, you know, thinking of relocates inside of the country. the us international organization of migration says that up to 260000 people requested their assistance to leave nigeria in 2023. victor spend several months researching different destinations, considering the cost of living jobs prospect and overall quality of life. many nigerians do the same mean sense of jo default and every major the this, the facilitators do kind of would you please a job for me and also with my skills is my excuse. i kind of also add that as a part time job. but as i saw a vehicle, despite the global popularity of the nigerian, were joppa obtaining a visa as an a jerry and can be quite a challenge. the nigerian passport is ranked as one of the least respected

passports in the world. as a result, many young missourians have resorted to using travel agents to assist them and their visa process. why best people need those classes? we need to consult on this because we sound like, let's say they're immigration lawyer, like the they have to go to the spots that you are travelling, those low, meaning all of the requirements of really the go on the website to check their companies. yes. believe those are still the we, we of consultants know the extra documents to provide to make sure that the uses a 100 percent of them given to them. yes. or we also prepare them what they have to say in front of because a lot, or while some visa agents might have their clients best interest at heart. agents have also been known to scan applicants take their money and not deliver the promise visa. others make clients the large sums of money over several years for the visa services. as a result,

some people choose the deadly route across the desert and mediterranean sea, resulting in thousands of deaths and disappearances each year. victor is work and visa application custom $3500000.00 ira or $3800.00 us dollars. yet at least he says he has a trustworthy agent. the issue is, i know somebody says my documents my passports and ever that. and then they took it up from the the exit is of ambitious. young africans is a concern for their home countries leaving behind a gap in skilled labor. yet the migrants themselves also face a difficult decision, leaving their loved ones behind or settling for a life with a limited prospect. you know, it's painful. so home that's, i'm going to my parents and my my siblings and visit the frames. is lazy. we does have some thinking like that says we're going to try to make more

money. make my boy i hope that's a next serious life. i know that time have the opportunity to, to bring them over and we called the to get a get out of funding. yes. you know, it says that you'll be just for very long time. it says, look, somehow dog sell unless it is this again, victor will soon be boarding a plane to start a new life in canada. yes, wireless future has planned out. many youngsters like him struggling to find a promising jeff or route for themselves. and so what are you seeing in your country, do you know any people who left actually, you might be a person who decided to explore a job or a business opportunities in a foreign country. we wanted to find out how the situation differs from country to country. so we sent out our team of correspondence to find some answers. here's what they brought back from ghana, uganda. and can you brain going to have

a mixed impact in kenya. i'm the one had to take highly skilled workers outside the country. on the other hand, they sent the large amounts of money back home in 2022. remittances from canyons living abroad became the largest source of for an exchange, amounting to $4300000000.00 us dollars. in fact, can you is present the amount that he hopes to double list number and exports. even more canyon work of kenyan data shows that migration increases with the level of education, health care workers, and some of the main professionals leaving can yes, so, but to job oh, for the education. in fact, canyon health care. what? because when to the streets complaining about the lack of good and stable jobs, even though hospitals here and the stuff in 2020 to gotten is youth unemployment rates to live in point one full sustains. a millions of young guardians are closed on the list. searching for new jobs, many of them, sadly,

including those within central skills, only see themselves green, better outside gonna ways that one police like you have killing your tire, you don't mind shooting down their boost that move in from go from floods in an inspection. now it's looking at a country like jimmy, and he said, plays for the future. well, what excites me all by the carrier. we can see is that you get to lane different views from i've asked if we get too many new ideas, things that goes into that and we just didn't know if that's the key destination has been in europe in the america. in fact, the gemini is 2nd only to the united kingdom, are stop destination use for the game unity ashbrook populations. but then i use also one of the countries that you have quotes, frankly targeted with this migration reforms that foreclose was totally by and migration say into the office counseling the young people, sick into trouble has also been a prisoner for some time now. but i key for close now is providing the advisory

services for a come use who have the expertise and willing to work abroad with gun are still struggling to make color and not being able to create opportunities for many young people migrating outside has become in this society rather than and luxury for millions, including professionals. and you've gotten the problem of brain drain because of poor documents issues. it's hard to appreciate the real impact of this problem. many professionals try to seek employment outside the country, mainly because of unemployment to you and for a pick model. so troubling outside your gun. that is not an easy attempt. mainly because of visa, i'm shovel restrictions, but since you were lucky to find jobs outside your gun when they need some don't even want to come about. hm. that's an interesting point. and dried people who

leave don't wants to come back. but what do you think? do africans who move abroad have an obligation to later return to their home countries? or what do you say they shouldn't even leave in the 1st place? well, here's prove that this is a very controversial topic. michael league, edith kimani was in lagos to find out what people there think. and here's our street debate, the hello, and welcome back to this 27 percent this week. we are back in the julia and before we continue, i'd like you to pick to something. imagine living in a country where you feel completely frustrated by your government's efforts and few . absolutely no way out. what do you do? well for most and i do and they decide to jeff the yorba would for run. and so huge is this problem that recently elected president to bu, asked people in the diaspora in the us to come back home and forget the

frustrations of the previous government. but is this enough to allow the young people here to remain? that's the question we have to day, and i'm going to begin with some so now you, i, one of the people who we thing but look, this country is not really watching out for me. and given the chance i am taking the 1st flights out of here and never coming back, why this is so i meant to just the entropy. no, i think about me having solutions to many problems. and then still trying to box will be the 1st struck to thinking about pa thinking up our main center thinking of buying a plastic or that will help me do many things. i won't want to do that. i've had several of challenges like these where i'm trying to do something bored. i mean, i gave to the environment. there is no wi fi like i make me do stuff. there's no infrastructure, like i give me an idea of what i want to do is very frustrating. ok, so let me hear from other people here, just the state of affairs and i do at the moment, how would you describe it's only value? so this gets a little mentor, i yeah, i might see things on, on walking,

right. but it's not going to be to interim and try is going to be a better place if we will contribute all thoughts to make it. okay. so you say it's going to be a better place, but what is the situation present? and um, yes, that's the reason why we are developing issue on the rights. we have multiple, a positive west on what he is, but it's never the less up because i've got some data. okay, so i want to talk to dr. fuller for a 2nd because you are a doctor practicing pediatrician. and also interestingly, a visual artist. i've no idea how you manage those 2 schedules. i can barely keep mine up. so um your industry pick up medicine is one of the west affected by joppa . actually, just from the reports that we're hearing, tell us a little bit about that. are you seeing an impact almost 90 percent of the people i went to school, we'd have left the country. they something about being a medical doctor that nature is really feeling that if you go to other countries, western countries, date is the huge amount of respect. and you know, there's a, a chair it is given to medical doctors that we do not have here the fees, very bad leaving conditions. very bad. and, you know, we,

if you break down what's the government's is given to the doctors in the country here. it's really bad, i have a lot of hope for the new the new um then your routine, hoping that things would change for sure. i'm also hoping that my, my colleagues will also come back to the country when they have developed themselves and the most, both just one to run. if you're a doctor, there's no reason for you to be major. if that is what everybody's saying. okay, let me come back to own desire here for a 2nd because you and you said that, you know things are bad, but there's no reason to go when you hear dr. follow speaking. i mean, surely those to wells don't belong together. i'm so i'm not saying there's no reason to go right. boys are going was going to insure him if i were, but he lives meant to years old venture. that's the truth. we will have to go. yes, you can go get to know that you have come back, come through the manager, come up close the structure that you just as appropriate price. when you 1st of problem, when you saw the public, you create to but you need to talk to a manager. i get to know that you'd like to come back and create opportunities in

and you mention it, but it's okay. i do. i do. i do. i agree. i agree because all these nice truck is you don't want to keep open for 62 years. we have to print it out. what? no concern about the people that close on that body of fucking imagine me get out of the country, go to knowledge, come back and i'm be several times. have been cute, just because i need to strike a deal with someone and government to make my dear come to reality. i mean, are we talking about a country where you can literally, you know, see what we happened and this time, no secure, but you know, you've got structure that telling me that i should go. no, no, no, no, i'm not saying that all the countries i know like that i'm saying that the settings are things that i should be set to know about the things that should be known for me, provided by the government. that should be able to do what we have talking about. gimme a 2nd because we need to. yes, i also think that you kind of discount the fact that the programs and that you have very institutional people leave this country. i have friends who have left this country, i mean 3 years, they have houses because as mortgage systems,

we don't have documents here. we do not. i've gotten that. yeah, i mean, they won't even do is accessible. i think i recall it for me please. so i think that we're coming from the place to privilege it. let's, let's listen to i think i can somebody please of privilege if you think that you know, my pressing can access the things that you said i no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, this is, this is a problem. i just oftentimes because we have access to social media, we think everyone's life is perfect. it's not like that even in the abroad. you have to have a certain kind of salary to get certain kind of mortgage to get a certain kind of house everywhere has its own kind of strategies or rules. he says something about a doctor. and i know even when i was trying to study medicine, doctor was supposed to have some kind of ingrained reason to want to help people to sort of the fact that people are running away because of money. it's a problem to me. you took an oath to save lives, that's on to her. the me there. hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. let's just come back to center for a 2nd. you said something about the medical profession and question and what is

driving the duct as desires and what their motivation is? yes, and the media is trying to explain the difference. the is that sense of belonging? never beyond credit by the level of being green misstep that comes with a professional. you know, that's another country i won't be. i feel like will be the solution. if you say that we don't speeds but it shut to. yeah. it might have called the 9. yeah. am i correct now? yeah, the, i'm not, you know, your life into caring for people. it's a catch me for the point. you're making sure that people are life, then you should do that by level of respect from the government. okay? no problem, because because we've invoked the name of the duct of here, let's reintroduce him to the discussion. if you don't state who then gets to fix the system. you're trying to downplay the, the importance of p and that is very, very, but these doctors and the machines, do you understand? most people come from families where the mother, the father, everybody's boring money to send this boy to school. you get that you become a medical doctor going heavily at home because you have

a lot of shift. so many patients to see 1st before because in a drug we have about 4000 patients to one doctor a. so i don't mind, you know, i'm ok. we've seen as many as i want to see, you understand? well, what happens to me? where do i go to of, to seeing everybody? where am i sleeping? what am i it's, there's something interesting which i discovered as i was doing research on this topic, which is where exactly nigerians are going. and not surprisingly, the countries, the top, the list, the kind of the us euro. and only one african country featured on that list and that's was gone. so if the idea is to better your lives and not really to leave in the abroad, as we are saying, why not move to follow african countries? why not go to send a go, can anybody help me with that? i'm send a big country. i mean, sure, i'm sure. do you know what is up and commenting gonna, you know, just, just aren't gonna correctly. is it developing countries? yes, true. but i mean, i'm feeling good deal and if you're telling me that the problem is infrastructure, internet access to health care, the

a many african countries which can support you in those few. okay, so tell me one or 2 of the codes. can i use one of those? okay, yeah, i agree with you. so i must say that, you know, you remember that information. i'm just trying to figure out if it's a fund to see about living in a west on wells, or if it's about truly improve in your life. we have a system of sing when people are dropped off and they don't make enough money to come back home and people are laughing at them. the shame is that it is and saw me leave. it is in every system, every you need from the family. so please have your confidence as a start from the family. so we're going to change that with this generation. all right? oh, we've never had clapping me debates because that's not the yes you can. uh and it's look to fall, it says something i wanted to think about solutions, right? i completely agree with what she said. you understand, having the shame is low, just only about if you leave your 1st to come back. if you feeling names area to, you will have yourself, so nobody wants to fail. there's also the,

the issue of the glamour. you mention, why don't people go to other african countries to anybody wants to do it? why people, i don't know what, i don't understand it, but i would say these lastly, right? you want to move, you move it publish, you have a skill, you have the reason, you know, you apply, you know what you're going to do. and so the question is, how do we make sure that not the people don't leave? there's nothing intrinsically wrong with people wanting to emigrate to leave. but the people want to come back and build this country. how does that happen? any ideas i'm 1st i think is very important. we look within, like we've been talking about purpose, i think is also very key though we need to be honest with ourselves and do research . i know many people are speaking from the points of frustration and anger. so i want people to realize that we do have some of the interests that we want, but because we speak for many points of anger that we kind of just dismiss things, we'll just have to absolutely look within. all right, so you're giving me a solution of how to stay and do you want to be? yeah, i think is a by you, because i mean, the value pay uh,

in wherever you find yourself. i think about your thinking about the fact that you are the upsets through the country and not a liability thinking about the fact that you guys will be showing provider. okay. so that purpose for living that you were talking about. so yeah, at the beginning of this debate, we did have a very simple question. why have so many nigerians leaving and drugs? i think we've had very many visas. should they stay? should they go, i think they will continue to go. and whether or not they come back is something that we only have to wait and see, well, something we don't have to wait to see is you next time for our show. thank you for watching the for all right, i don't know about you, but i would have loved to be on that rooftop. i mean that discussion was on fire. now, if you wanted to see the full debate, go check it out on our youtube channel. so europe is a popular destination among nigerians who wants to jump high. in fact,

if you meet an african in berlin, chances are pretty high that they are from nigeria. the german capital is full of job opportunities and that's exactly what attracted chia mac. got it can. so we've been living in berlin for a few years now and so far things are going pretty well. a point and 9 john sees wants to jump off like i just want to like, leave the country and go to a new country like you've been behind france on knob wants to explore new opportunities to see how life is outside of major and then get to grow into a korea on every other aspects of life. actually move around the time that a lot of my friends move. so i felt like we all decided to please, i'll find some way so far as for pushing it it soon. leaving nigeria, that is with thousands of young's professionals,

are planning to do some of these and search off greener pastures, toddlers, to experience new places and where culture or broaden the horizon for jim i county it was the less the young software engineer from a number of days left nigeria in 2021 and came to berlin there very long time. i have always have to leave like i have friends in billing offerings across jamie, i'm in other countries the i've been telling me to leave the country. so i felt so comfortable because i, in between the manager as a i could actually rent an apartment in now one of the best places boards, i say, points in time, i just have to leave voice in the income easy because the mains live in my family behind leaving the cultural dom where they used to live in the foot behind. and so i was like, coming to an entirely different coincidence almost every 2nd nigerian asked in 20. 19 by the pew research center said they planned to move abroad to search for better work opportunities. european cities like berlin,

attract many nigerian professionals like gemma, other spots to jump her to are the united states, canada, or great britain. but was a new place come new challenges the they had us back to being in tell me i think the language on the call cultural. i would say the germans, i be reserved. so on um to bureau kirsten germany is actually in laws like i'm like many of her peers. she i'm not gonna have a good job back in 2022. every 2nd use in the area was unemployed. according to the national row of youth also struggling with insecurity that governance and unfair working conditions double put chances is really like what makes a lot of nigerians wants to leave. unlike a big top, you know,

environment to interface, cuz like jimmy is really like cool, configured like strong economy, lots of job opportunities. and then the last, the time to do this work as a mentor, as habits. so and insurance just wants to go out of their way to been so tough to where they will be really paid well for doing defense. and i did to endanger. but as tempting as moving abroad may sound, it also means leaving a lots behind me. so my family, i use my friends, i missed the food, i miss the people in general. yeah. and also the one. so i have a tropical countries, so definitely the i'm is the ones because it has to do with them. and all right now, jim, i said grab the opportunity to work in germany and does not redirect sheet is ready for whatever the future brings it in germany, nigeria,

or anywhere else in newark. if you're not from nigeria, you learned a new word today. jet, pop, shown young african stay in the home, countries should be migrates to search for better jobs. the topic is highly debatable and we would love to hear your thoughts. so please reach out to us on social media and i'll leave you with nigeria as very own iris star. her smashed head rush has been nominated for a grammy award. and the message is just perfect for today's show. it's all about hustling and working hard towards your goals. i'm the show, phoenix time the

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