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and with those limited restarting fixtures of fire, nice, you're up to date, you're watching, you don't renew his life from butter number, such as falls. thank you so much for being with us. the . i sorry, i went on 6 times hiring t more people than ever on the move worldwide. and such a good price of mine. and one great timing is very hard to say, very difficult to find out about how many info migrants my name is the calls back said wow, thank you so much for joining in. welcome to don't hold bad. a lot of people do
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that. it's all about saying it aloud. that's what it being nosy bay, like good. everyone to king. check out the award winning called called the called back. the also to say, i never tired of explaining how germans think to both the germans and the french at starch board as a german in frankfort. he fled to france with his jewish family in 1933. i guess he's regarded as the key intellectual figure behind franco german cooperation a 100 years after it ended the 1st world war still cast a long shadow today. because we would like to talk to him about the great war and his work for durham and french relations in michigan began meetings. question to hey go say, mr. cole say you've spent your whole life explaining how you became french. have
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you succeeded in becoming a frenchman? clicked some tire, partly and there's a lot to be criticized in front seat ends. the french nationalism is very strong. oh dear. i know people hold onto the memory of the 1st world war, in my opinion. fond too much, because president has just travelled across the vast form of battle ground at the 1st world war to show how deep the connection with the wall still is. that there is a deep connection in every french family. all of them had at least one fold in soldier and the fast wall and wall in front. hi, skip this. the 1st world war is commemorated in france, but in germany it's quite a different story than in france. they call it like holland. again, the great wars pop, the language alone tells us that remembrance is different. why is that a home? the re fee because
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a lot more people died. and the 1st thing in the 2nd world walks in the southeast in the 2nd world war. and i don't mean this disrespectfully, a few 100000 french, were killed in the estimate. but in the 1st world war, it was millions. i mean, every family had that, then you go to people are more reluctant to commemorate the 2nd world war. because fronds wasn't quite as honorable and it's defeat, then we'll have this one guy, he's not gonna issue these last high end. what is it that the french commemorate about the 1st world war? and then he didn't ask and back to good thing. is it 63, or what is it? what is this stuff is prob, i knew when fox and i was a boy scouts when i was 8 or 9 years old. on the that was 6 of us and a groups, as i knew, and every member of this group competed. why did i been to that? i was competitive to that for that. i want as the leader of this group, and i said, that's a little strange. i'm still a job and yes, match, you'll be french,
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they said, and it's symbolic for you to do it. i didn't experience anything else on helping this and also filed my mother's 1st experiences. as my father died when i was young. well, wonderful. i didn't school, it was great how they accepted me with dining, those who had private lessons for free with a teacher and so on. then after a year, my french was advanced and i was really proud. i know how they didn't put me. i played false stubs. that is and that's good. what did it happen? different if you had been treated differently here. how did you feel about it? it's about kind of the intake of that. it wasn't integration. it was really a simulation. and the boy scouts group was wonderful. who? my schoolmates? it wasn't easy at the beginning. i couldn't speak a word of french in 5 minutes. they asked me come onto japan time because that insulted me in the german school. i told they were throwing insults at me too. so i
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started fighting. you started fights? yes, i did. what happened next? they laughed at me. that's what i was treated badly as a little jewish boy in my school in frankfort, and therefore for those who would have been hit by that usually you have in the office, you have to put up with a great deal of suffering and tested. see how you say yourself, that's how things got off to a bad start for yourself. vincent. yeah, do approach this difficult task with such great dedication. rebuilding a relationship between france and germany, titian invited. and how did you achieve that without hatred? after such a terrible beginning? and it's to begin of the company. so how could i write about my experiences without bias? i can't say just that i had a very positive temperament. this was the key. this is a different times. how would you describe your role? you played a major part in the franco german reconciliation endorse the saying,
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bad things about germans in germany. bad things about france and france. that's the main go. it usually works is august. i say a lot of bad things about germany and germany and about france in front. nobody minds union destiny. what do? why not try position for with nobody minds if i said, because i'm the way i am on those, which means i can get away with saying and doing anything. i'm in absolute advocates of understanding and reconciliation. so what i say can only be right, that's not actually the truth, but i let people believe it was even though it's visa all stars. what is it that made it possible for the germans and the french to get along and talk to one another today as if these mores had never happened to these? it? is that how it is? so this new shows, i wouldn't say that's the case. what they know full well that these words happened
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and still, but that's how i describe it. everything has been done to ensure the was a not forgotten, but nothing is forgotten. so that hitler, the concentration camps and not forgotten, none of that should have struck to genuine human communication between the germans and the french. not with every body. of course, there is still a generation today who cannot accept the phrase, the germans, not still exists, no a thing, but on the whole, the 2nd and 3rd generation are now friends friendly and germany friendly. and for i think, as has the house house gift is read as all the negative tactics all over. when the funding gets done. i mean, like, uh, let me call to america and england who divide the 2 countries which are rejected to you. why should we argue with germany, when we no longer argue with england? and is best either done but alpha announced icon is i am you say that the wars are
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not forgotten? we are commemorating the 1st world war. now, what does this commemoration have to do with us and our lives today? is it still necessary, or is it an old habits that we no longer need? i watched the boy. we don't really need it anymore, but we are talking about like home gown. great remembrance for a great wall. so many mo germans fell in the 2nd world gold and french from all this, which is why the germans often don't understand why the conga means the 1st world war. the most french peoples is in the 2nd world war. and this has to be reiterated again and again, the front suffered relatively little compared with germany. we didn't really get it, in fact, visually died, so on. so i certainly believe that the 2nd world war left its mark on france is buddhist. there was the resistance,
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a lot of heroic actually just bought lots of heinous things happen to such as denunciations and so, so, so by that, by my was gone the whole, however, it was really a mine, oh, well, off the front. if not, the germany says germany has many more victims, particularly as no. so get this message. would you say you are at heart, both german and french one console? no, my identity is completely french, but it's true that i started german. i'm a professor of german, so i've learned 2 languages fluently as it was here. i hope this guy did sweat it out for a few and then it. yeah. as soon as you never spoke german with your 4 sons, stuff that they're supposed to do. so that's something you regret denying them that culture. yeah, yes i do. i deeply regret it. if i'm a catholic i would spend a long time confessing it about that's the way it is. c. like maybe i
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didn't want them to feel germans to it. but you know, it's one of them spent a year and sop on it and then started for a year in strasburg, so he can speak german, one of the 4. by the way it's very german to have for science and g life a lot. is that for you also? yes, my students always joked about that, that i laugh so much, you know, very french would you say no better at germans with a sense of human to the who more for to do it. and say hi to know when you look into your up today, how does it make you sad to see strong ideologies on the rise? which appeal again to young people attracted to the notions of blaming others for problems. finding simplistic explanations for it and one country wants to leave the you. does this make you lose hope stuff? is it toddlers headed into the hospital? how one should never lose herbrich or allow it to be taken away?
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it's true, however, that europe is in a very sorry, state of affairs. i'll name 2 countries and then go hungry is, as i'm european, as it gets and poland to or the various other countries no longer feel european and that's a great pity oil. who does this is the french president has really done a lot for europe here and is continuing to do so. now he's proposed a european ami god, i think the minds of the older people among us will say that this already filed in 1954. and the citizens, but it could work this time. none of the individuals, european armies have very strong. so a common one could be a good thing and it combines hagler mystical. so maybe you have grandchildren. how do we explain europe to this young generation? what does the new generation need to know? roughly on the so they have to know what happened in the past that is crucial for
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them. and do you see what progress can be made? the board is opened just as phrase would have been a revolution 20 years ago. is that the key that people know what happened in the past when people have to commemorate wars in order to move forward fund again can, you know, don't need that to resume. it's always important to know about the past as we only that, so this by that. so i, it should be wide spread and guns, and that shouldn't be stupid answers to questions about the recent past. not just because it's already been forgotten, egless and mystical save. now it's time for our 3 incomplete sentences. i start a statement and you finish it. my greatest happiness is my wife. my greatest fear is china and america together.
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