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full costumes and heartaches of the world, of course. the grand finale will be a huge parade in cologne. on monday. as our time will be back with more at the top of the next hour and hope to see you then by the get ready for an exciting auburn toyota for look, surprised. hi, irish. and i'm ready to dive into the hands of gentlemen to you. have you have a window porch? we've gone to the spot on expected side to slide is the most important stuff can be used across different geographies. the real challenge itself has needs to be an incredibly scarce way us transforming business is onto
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real media and lots, just green washing. what's now on the i also to say i never tired of explaining how germans think to both the germans and the french at starch board as a german in frankfort. he fled to france with his jewish family in 1933. i guess he's regarded as the key intellectual figure behind franco german cooperation a 100 years after it ended the 1st world war still cast a long shadow today. because we would like to talk to him about the great war, and his work for german french relations in michigan began. meetings, question to hey go say, mr. cole say you've spent your whole life explaining how you became french. have
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you succeeded in becoming a frenchman? clicked some tire, partly there's a lot to be criticized in front. the french nationalism is very strong. or do i know people hold onto the memory of the 1st world war in my opinion? fond too much. because president has just travelled across the vast form of battle, ground up the 1st world war to show how deep the connection with the wall still is . that there is a deep connection in every french family. all of them had at least one fall in soldier and the fast wall and wall in front. hi, skip this. the 1st world war is commemorated in france, but in germany it's quite a different story done. in france, they call it like holland. again, the great wars pop, the language alone tells us that remembrance is different. why is that a home the the fee because
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a lot more people died. and the 1st thing in the 2nd world walks in this of this in the 2nd world war. and i don't mean this disrespectfully, a few 100000 french, were killed in the estimate, but in the 1st world war, it was millions. every family had that dead to the people are more reluctant to commemorate the 2nd world war. because fronds wasn't quite as honorable in its defeat, is we'll have this one guy, he's not going to issue this. was a fire. and what is it that the french commemorate about the 1st world war and then they didn't ask and big ticket thing. is it 63, or what is it? what is this stuff is probably about who when fox and i was a boy scouts when i was a, till 9 years old on the that was 6 of us and a groups as i knew and every member of this group competed, why did i get to that i was competitive to that for that i want as the leader of this group. and i said, that's a little strange. i'm still a job and yes about,
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you'll be french, they said, and it's symbolic for you to do it. i didn't experience anything else. when it happened and also filed my mother's 1st experiences. yes, my father died when i was young, but well, wonderful. i didn't school, it was great how they accepted me with dining. that's who i had private lessons for free with a teacher and so on. then after a year, my french was advanced and i was really proud. i just didn't put me in great falls the stuff that is unless good, what did it happen? different if you had been treated differently here. how did you feel about it? it's about kind of the intake of that. it wasn't integration, it was really a simulation. and the boy scouts group was wonderful. who, my schoolmates? it wasn't easy at the beginning. i couldn't speak a word of french fibers. they asked me, come onto japan time because that insulted me in the german school. i thought they were throwing insults at me too. so i started fighting you started fights. yes,
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i did. what happened next? they laughed at me, but i was treated badly as a little jewish boy in my school in frankfort, and therefore they would have been hit by that usually problem to have him in the office. you have to put up with a great deal of suffering and tested. see how you say yourself, that's how things got off to a bad start for you though. you do approach this difficult task with such great dedication. rebuilding a relationship between france and germany. titian invited and how did you achieve that without hatred after such a terrible beginning, and it's to begin to the company. so how could i write about my experiences without bias? i can't say just that i had a very positive temperament. this because it keeps this is a different times. how would you describe your role? you played a major part in the franco german reconciliation endorse the saying. bad things
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about germans in germany. bad things about france and france. that's the main go. it usually works. so the feed, i say a lot of bad things about germany and germany and about france in front. nobody minds, union destiny. what do? why not have this was full and nobody minds if i said, because i'm the way i am on this, which means i can get away with saying and doing anything. i'm in absolute advocate of understanding and reconciliation. so what i say can only be right, that's not actually the truth, but i let people believe it was even though it's vega. i'll stars, what is it that made it possible for the germans and the french to get along and talk to one another today as if these mores had never happened as easy as that? how it is so nice. it was. uh, i wouldn't say that's the case even when they know full well that these was
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happened and still, but that's how i describe it. everything has been done to ensure the was a not for golfing, but nothing is forgotten. so sorry for that hitler, the concentration camps and not for gotten none of that should have struck to genuine human communication between the germans and the french is not with every body. of course there is still a generation today who cannot accept the phrase, the germans not still exists. no. but on the whole, the 2nd and 3rd generation are now friends friendly and germany friendly. and for i think it's hospitality. i was just as read as i was the negative tactics all over with funding gifts that i mean like um let me call to america and england. i would divide the 2 countries which are rejected here. why should we argue with germany, when we no longer argue with england, they should and spears died? thundered alpha announced, i've shown god and you say that the wars are not forgotten. we are commemorating
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the 1st world war. now. what does this commemoration have to do with us and our lives today? is it still necessary, or is it an old habits that we no longer need? i just need no more stuff on board. we don't really need it anymore, but we are talking about like home gowns, great remembrance for a great wall. so many more germans fell in the 2nd world gold and french from all this, which is why the germans often don't understand why look on gad means the 1st world war, the most french people is in the 2nd world war. and this has to be reiterated again and again, the front suffered relatively little compared with germany. we didn't really get it, in fact, visually died, so on. so i certainly believe that the 2nd world war left its mark on front is buddhist. there was the resistance, a lot of hey ro,
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i can see just bottle lots of heinous things happen to this, such as denunciations and so, so, so by that, what was gone, the hall. however, it was really a mine, a wild wall off the front. if not, the germany, germany had many more victims, typically a snowfall. get this message, would you say you are at heart both german and french. one console is, is i don't know. my identity is completely french. others, but it's true that i studied jem and just i'm a professor of german, so i've learned 2 languages fluently as it was here. i hope this guy did sweat it out for a few minutes. yeah, he is soon home. you never spoke german with your 4 sons, stuff that they're supposed to do. so that's something you regret denying them that culture. yes i do. i deeply regret it. if i'm a catholic, i would spend a long time confessing it about that's the way it is. like maybe i
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didn't want them to feel judgments to it, but yeah, it's one of them spent a year and stop on it and then started for a year in strasburg. so he can speak german one that's a 4. by the way, it's very german to have for science and g life a lot. is that for you also? yes, my students always jumped about that. but i laughed so much, you know, very french would you say no better a germans with a sense of human to the who more for to do it. and the height in the when you look at your up today, how does that make you sad to see strong ideologies on the rise? which appeal again to young people attracted to the notions of blaming others for problems. finding simplistic explanations and one country wants to leave the you. does this make you lose hope? it does present towers headings at the hospital. health. one should never lose
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herbrich or allow it to be taken away. it's true, however, that europe is in a very sorry, state of affairs. all name 2 countries then go hungry is as on european as it gets on poland to of the various other countries, no longer feel european and that's a great pity oil. who does this is the french president has really done a lot for europe here and is continuing to do so. now he's proposed a european ami god, i think the minds of the older people among us will say that this already filed in 1954. and the citizens, but it could work this time. none of the individuals, european anom is a very strong. so a common one could be a good thing and it combines the haggling sales, mystical. so maybe you have grandchildren. how do we explain europe to this young generation? what does the new generation need to know? roughly how investable they have to know what happened in the past that is crucial
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for them and do you see what progress can be made? the boat is opened, just as phrase would have been a revolution 20 years ago. is that the key and that people know what happened in the past when people have to commemorate morris in order to move forward fund again? can this new noting natural result? it's always important to know about the past as much as we own it. that is by that side it should be wide spread and guns, and that shouldn't be stupid answers to questions about the recent past now is just because it's already been forgotten. hagler say i missed a call save. now it's time for our 3 incomplete sentences. i started a statement and you finish it. my greatest happiness is my wife. my greatest fear is china and america together.
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and my greatest hope is that they will be a real europe mystical say i thank you for talking to us. i wish you all the best i live with. thank you. the conflict. so with tim sebastian, 4 month terms of the gradual and there is no end in sight for the killing on the suffering. how long can is continuous ministry campaign as his allies would increasingly that to many policy news a die? and my definitely leave probably for my head and intelligence service from my side conflict the next on d. w to the point. strong opinions, clear position. international perspective. vladimir putin has his eye on the
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