tv The Day Deutsche Welle February 21, 2024 11:02pm-11:30pm CET
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again, year 3 and more and more people are reckoning, the time is running out for ukraine. a new survey among europeans, it shows most still want ukraine to when the war. most say it won't happen tonight, the high hopes and low expectations. i'm for golf and berlin. this is the day the . lemme just in terms of support for you cream. we are working with our european partners to adopt or sanction packages. and keep up the pressure on the russian, your machine we are considering going on since the whole structure of piers into account. and this morning we sanctioned those running the prison flower next scene of only 40 still, like i told you, we will have a major package on friday. also coming up,
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rushes invasion of ukraine has brought more back to europe. a conflict too close for comfort? you would think cool, it's not as a cooling thing, but the war. now my message to our partners, please don't call that support a few great. because this is not support to please call it investments in your role and security. which of our viewers watching on tv, as in the united states, into all of you around the world? welcome. we begin the day with sanctions against russia. yet again, today, the european union agreed to impose a 13th round of sanctions against russia. it comes as the gremlins war against the crane nearest it's the 2nd anniversary. and they comes as ukrainian forces are suffering losses like never before on the battlefield. after months of heavy fighting against russian forces, ukraine's military recently withdrew from the eastern town of updates. a major loss
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for keep this un verified russian video reports to show russian soldiers they are replacing the ukranian flag with their own. your latest round of sanctions also come, i mean public outrage over the death of kremlin critical lexington of all ne, inside a siberian prison. just last week with europe has decided on more sanctions against russia, the right response at the right time. i put that to professor jeffrey zoning failed . he's associated dean at the eel school, a business manage, or it is needed. we've had various warning shots over the bell of increasingly steps sanctions. and yet there's still more that it has to be done. we alone had a lot to do with catalyzing, the historic exit of 1200 major multi nationals to leave russia. that's 6
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times the retreat from south africa and protests of the apartheid regime. and there are all kinds of sanctions, of course we as we know and financial sector in some other sectors. but there is not enough. and this is going to be very effective. the price covers were, we're pretty strong. but this will do even far more represent, you know, you will certainly understand that there is a level of cynicism dev among the public. this is the 13th round of sanctions that the european union has swept against russia. how many rounds and sanctions will it take? it to get the desired outcome. well, it'll take a lot more and it isn't like giving one weapon system either is going to do it. so please hope are any cynical viewers. keep in mind that the, the leverage tanks from you folks are the abrams things from here aren't going to do it alone. behind me. our systems weren't going to do it alone. the, the f sixteens weren't going to do it alone. of the,
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the various kinds of, of, of, of a patriot missiles systems and things of provide protection and defense. but just like we need multiple weapon systems and now they're shorter and artillery. we also need a lot tighter sanctions, essentially been very effective. what your viewers have to understand is putting is concealing as economic statistics from the international monetary from the i am of their own. economists have told us of the i, m f and we have it recorded that they don't know how i'll put in how the russian economy is doing. they're only taking his made up propaganda has to test x and repackage and gets put in, wakes up in the morning, comes up with effect g, d, p. the russian economy is hemorrhaging. every sector is down from 60 percent and to more than 90 percent, they have 0 foreign investment going into that over a $100000000.00 a year or foreign direct investment going in there. we know that by 3rd there 1000000 years of floods because the economy is in,
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is in distress. but he's surviving exact capitalizing industry. and in, and now this economy used to be 25 percent state and state control. it's now 70 percent. stay controlled and use of he uses at his cookie as his cookie jar, there's no fees mortgaging rushes future. that may be the case professor, but it doesn't change the fact that these and sanctions have not brought this more to an end. and that is what everyone is waiting to happen as well. they, they need even more. there are chips that get through their military grade. sure. it trips chips that even in a bassinger from just between weed friends is becca stand admitted to it. it's a gets basically taped onto a refrigerator. it was in a microwave oven is household appliances is get imported into russia that are actually harvested and used for military grade uses. there. there are chips coming through russian ships coming through china, and those have to be tight and wait. they of the oil sanctions,
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russia is not making money on oil. you hear about a volume of, well, their, their profits are plunged. in fact, they're producing a breakeven levels and the to today's financial times, reports are we said what happened 2 years ago, which is that gas problem is basically uh, unfortunately out of business, nobody can buy their gas, and you guys don't empty even needs. none of it and they can't pivot and sell it to asia, but there is still some slip as we have. aluminum is being bought. we have billions of dollars of aluminum, $10000000.00 as of aluminum being bought by the u. that should stop $2000000000.00 of, of a, of titanium and things that can be brought to a halt. and that's what these new sanctions will tighten. i think the sanctions it even more than a and better enforcement on, on. i think some of the oil price gaps, which would help. well, i'm sure a lot of people are going to be watching to see if this round will will do the trick. professor jeffrey, it is only that we appreciate your time and your valuable analysis tonight. thank
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you. thank you so much. i as well since february of 2022, the european union has banned goods worth about 44000000000 euro is that would have been exported to russian. now these include advanced technologies such as radar systems, drones, camouflage, gear or weapons, and luxury items loved by rushes, elite on the import side, the sanctions may hit even harder, rushing commodities worth 90. 1.2000000000 europe's are now banned across europe, and that includes coal, iron, gold, and steel, as well as russia's most eye clinic and coveted products vodka and caviar. here's. we'll look now at how it rushes economy is doing under the penalties already in place. the defense industry is currently the most important pillar of the russian economy. thanks to significantly increased government spending. the defense
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industry accounts with 10 percent of g. d. p. all the sectors such as the steel industry, also benefiting off to the slump in 2022. the russian economy is now growing according to data for most got growth is also a full cost for 2024 plus cut pass this message english. what's the, what's happening? what's the russia is actually what i'm rolling equally, becoming more like the soviet union in that it has high spending on the military and in some cases heavy industry. and at the same time, the level of consumption is holding for the population. people say that the cycle spots industrial production is also doing surprising. the well, for example, in the automotive sector, components are increasingly coming from china, off to the europeans, withdrew from russia, thanks to chinese impulse. the russian economy is being kept afloat. she never
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takes in a traditional china or is of course, not officially participating in the sanctions. so it is not a partner, so to speak of western states when it comes to sanctions. since i'm feeling good to finance impulse, russia needs expos, income from guest sales. these are folded and dramatically times the use extensive impulse band seems to have had an effect. tapping into a new customers with new pipelines is only a partial substitute. volume was involved with the 5 lines of favor despite the when you compare them full, wanted to finalize, come from support to today you or come from support to, to china and even the new infrastructure of projects like all else, i be a to us 1000000000 the. ready you fund state the however oil sales rushes 2nd most important source of export revenue almost as good as before the war and ukraine. this is despite you sanctions. i am just enforcing
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a price cap of $60.00 us dollars a barrel transportation of oil. um probably are violating the costs so days a week and fours many to on the side of it is there is also a shadow trading uh where you know, uh all the is uh, uh, discharged. uh and the charge of the on another bus or the. ready sees a more and more oil is ending up in india. its most important oil supply is no russia. nevertheless, rushes growth is partly finance don't credits, including ministry spending. how long can put seen actually afford to do this? this come with the concepts. i can write that for quite a while. well, so i'd have to brush i had a very low deb leveled at the beginning of the war. it still has a low debt level even now, actually send russia does not look set to run out of money to finance the war and
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ukraine. any time soon for 2 years in t rush is more on ukraine and public opinion regarding the conflict here in europe does not translate into a message of optimism. in fact, the majority of europeans are pessimistic about ukrainian victory. a survey by the european council on foreign relations says only one in 10 thinks ukraine can win. 20 percent believe russia. but when the berlin based thing tank says that 41 percent of respondents want you're up to pressure ukraine to negotiate with russia . 17000 people in 12 european countries took part in this survey, or someone else want to bring it above your loss from the european council on foreign relations. or if it was good to see you again, you know, one year ago it looked like ukraine might be able to turn this more around with its
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counter offensive. that didn't happen. so i'm wondering how does this new survey, how does it differ from numbers? we may have seen one year ago i organization to european customer operations, port again, 12 european countries and populations about their attitudes and views of russia's full scale invasion and the war ukraine going now into the 3rd year. i think your opinions on not feeling particularly heavily about the war, neither are they particularly enthusiastic about ukraine's prospect, but also they adopt your opinions, the ability to backfill the us leadership role and going to try to ukraine in case donald trump is the let the to the white house this november. yeah, there's a lot to unpack there. let me start with this notion of a war fatigue. you say that this fatigue is crucial to vladimir prudence,
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calculations for winning, and you create a how i'm wondering how war weary is europe. is the west right now? i think certainly we see a rise in where yes, despite inflation and you're going back to pre war levels, despite energy prices going back to pre war levels or european populations, ca anxious about ukraine's prospect. and i think that has an effect on how likely the will ukrainian victory and how promising they see continued us and are paid to what to crane. and they don't think that ukraine and victory is particularly likely . but on the other hand, they also don't want to a piece nation and they don't think that a piece on, on russian terms is any sustainable. yeah, it took it. so it seems the message here is in europe. we don't want russia to win, but we think it probably will considering depth. what should european leaders,
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what should they, they do with this knowledge? i mean, how should this new survey, how should it shape polish? most europeans believe that this war will end in some kind of negotiated settlement, and this is certainly true from a analytical perspective, most was to end in negotiated settlements. but the fact also is that doors negotiate settlements, usually reflect a military balance of power on the balance here. and so in order to sustain european countries, this ministry state financial aid to you claim to keep your claim number 5, to avoid a russian victory in this war year. can you just need to rephrase the support effort and they have to strengthen the message off piece of piece on international law, the terms of voiding a piece on russian terms that would equate to, to surrender of you can use, say, in your survey that leaders need to define the meaning of a durable piece,
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they say that should be, that may be the goal here. what do you mean by that? a durable piece, a durable piece in our view, is one that, that builds on international law in international humanitarian. all this was common, for example, is engaged in an effort to bring together large correlation of countries as supporting ukraine's piece form, you know, which recognizes the territorial integrity of the countries which recognizes its political sovereignty. i did call on the global community to also stand behind international law in order to sustain future peace agreement and to not get frustrated. not opening, such as the minister, one and 2 agreements that we saw in 2014, 2015 to may be the national politics also trained to undermine ukraine's west introductory. what do europe is? i think it should happen if us support for ukraine flags and in the event of
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donald trump, for example, winning another presidency they think should happen. you know, people seem to know that they are able by themselves to backfill um what the west is providing in material support to ukraine. but also the political. you just have to bring together this large international question all support us that we've seen emerge. for example, in the context of the wrong context, but they're also not willing to let you create a goal of clarity of europeans. think that they should either maintain or even increase support in case the future us government decides to step out of this international court. can we see in this new survey, but you'd have pockets of in increased support for ukraine and pockets? we're the support is, is waning pet. possibly even more pro proved in pro russia
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you certainly dislike between countries, but they also have different within countries. sometimes the differences between political parties is larger than those between european countries, but you're right to point out that, that certainly some countries, common sense populations take up more relatively pro russian viewing students. for example, hungry greece is also more thoughtful than other countries. on the other side, we have sweden, traditionally, also poland as a very strong support of the trans defensive struggle, but interesting the song lingering doubt in eastern european countries about what the not populations of creating refugees might mean for national role. here last with the european council on foreign relations here in berlin, ralphio is always is good to have you on. we appreciate you walking you through these new numbers. thank a thank you very much for holding. sorry
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to the middle east now where the devastating more between is real into mos in gaza means or can mean the life and death for journalists trying to cover the conflict. their recent figures from the committee to protect the journalist, shape palestinian journalist and made up the majority of all the journalists killed world wide in the past year. since a mazda is october 7th here attacks, it is real. $83.00 pills today and journalist and 2 is really journalists have been to within god's a, it's male, almost exclusively palestinians reporting on the war on the ground. israel has refused to let foreign journalists in to report independently. they're all of those reporting from within guys that are doing so under extremely difficult conditions or more now i'm joined by jody ginsburg. she's the ceo of the committee to protect journalist and joins me from new york journeys. could they have you with this?
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let's talk about this conflict. this conflict is just what 3 months old and in terms of being dangerous to journalist, how does it compare to other conflicts? we're journalist and try to get to the truth. and this is the deadly as conflict for john, this the committee to project on this has ever documented. we've been doing this work for more than 2 years. mojdeh unless died in the 1st 10 weeks of the israel gauze. and we'll then have an evidence aids at certain he says, we've been doing this walk in a single country over an entire yes, the intensity, the numbers is up to the unprecedented. your organization we know investigates the depths of journalists in gaza. i don't have to tell you it's very difficult to, to verify any information that's coming out of the gaza strip. how did you make
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sure that the data you were collecting that? that is accurate? it is extremely difficult. the so that we would normally rely on being able to speak to families being able to speak to colleagues is extremely challenging because families are being kept kind of colleagues to being killed. nevertheless, we take the same approach that we would with any other situation. we make sure that we have at least 2 sources of information for any of the john. this that we document, we speak to friends, we speak to families, we do a search online that looks up the outputs to make sure that out information is accurate as possible. and of course, it's a more information comes to lights over time and we update our information as we gets it. what do you say to the allegations that are coming from is real, that some of these journalists are, are, are military. so mean, do you believe that, do you believe that they've actually been targeted by israeli forces as well?
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we have yet to see any credible evidence that the journalist that these really subsides are actually militant. so actually terrace, a search last year before this was started, the committee to project done this report rep, produce report court that'd be passed in which looked at the killings of laws. you palestinians on this bias ready forces over the past 22 years as and we found that 20 janice had been killed and, and not a single case with anyone and held accountable. and what we saw, in fact, was a path and then which quite often is where i was accused done and as of being a terrorist of being minutes ins, but never produce any evidence. and that remains the case. and this war to israel says that its army cannot guarantee the safety of journalists and how kendral is then, how can they, they do their job without risking their lot done
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anything goes or cannot do that jobs without risking their lives nowhere and goes the risk they've done, and they're still doing absolutely what we would expect jonas to do, covering the will the looking at the often loss of bombings, we're going to hospitals, and then we see hospitals, phone. so they're going to refugee comes to look at the effects of displacements. those have also been bomb. there isn't a place for dentist to be safe in the current environment, but it's absolutely imperative that we recognize that john this of civilians and must be treated as such. so it must never be targeted to the ginsburg or with the committee to protect journalist or the we appreciate your time and your input tonight. thank you. thank you. and the, the shelves of the gallons of strips over a 1000000 displays, palestinians are struggling every day to survive in the city of ruffled. there is
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not enough drinking boy 8 agencies that say that they are concerned that this could lead to yet another catastrophe. a frantic daily routine in rough uh fetching teen water. if i got somebody but my son is small and needs walter, i bring him see what was there, but he refuses it. we're unable to wash. we don't have clean clothes. there's no water, there's no food. the rest of the world has food for this situation here is dire. we need water to live with that water. there is no life in the long line forms every day on this beach. around one and a half 1000000 people are now believes to be crammed into the southern guys and say to you a for alpha resident. say the lack of clean water and food is causing disease to spread. and this is all about what are your thoughts on awesome, been sending you
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a for an ard to collect what else did you have on the all these people are reading that on the way on it, but not all of them will get more off of them. we miss, i don't know, i don't know if like this every day of the world food program has signed. did the alarm once again affect the gravity of conditions in god's depending on where you are, it ranges from emergency levels, but it goes all the way up to catastrophic levels. you find that there are people who have missed meals for a day or 2 days or 3 days. they have severe hunger. but you also have people who have acute hunger. that is, they are not eating for a week. eat agency say they're concerned about the possibility of famine and gaza. a dream warning comes as fighting continues. well the day it
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