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really well impact. obviously, when anything new comes out, the 1st thing it's useful is toward my face has been digitally plastered, countless times over other people's to make it bodies to create sex content that i never consented to. what is it, it's on the internet about me. i can tell you right now it is deep sites is not me . someone put my face onto porn and sold it. there is a whole website multiple websites dedicated to creating on connections, video, years of a sexual nature of anyone you want my safety, my day to day life, my whole career has been irreparably changed by this. people will say it's not really yea. so nothing really happened, but i do regard what has happened to me as a form of violence at the state of bars to she and i'm safe and my own time in my
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own streets. you know, if that is not considered a crime, what has to happen to a woman before? we are just that. it was just a new way to exploit women and girls. it's the new way to create another way of violating women and bills. it's just something that's been up to 5. dr. faker and i've been producing deep fig porn films for 3 years. medical bills and my clients tend to be heterosexual men who want to deepen fake a woman into a porn video and i'm not advisors. they normally send me photos or videos, views, sometimes recordings of video calls for meetings so, so, so in my meeting when i have enough material and the target person as well, and i know which porn film i should deep take them into. i can get to work on from
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to off. i can speak you entered against most of my artificial intelligence does about 60 percent of the work and i do about 40 percent manually always comes about the while. i'm looking for source material. i learned a few things about the person. this is and it's, it's usually a woman. the man has a thing for his boss or a neighbor or his brother's wife. nothing surprises me anymore. yeah. so i have no problem telling my story about i don't want my face or my voice to appear on tv, and it's gonna help me. that's why this interview hasn't been re enact. instead of, you know, if i media and if for my family, my wife and my friends, i know that i produce the big point is to help finish. but i'm not proud of it. i do the job for the money. i don't feel guilty about it. who is, the woman doesn't know she's in a porn film, so it doesn't cause any harm. the
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my name is carl hunter. i am a victim of and must be a sexual violence, a staff and i chase me as a person, something like best a couldn't go through something i believe as traumatizing and not change. i grew up here in the north coast here in ireland. didn't really low school, but i loved learning and really enjoyed my time with university. i have a journalism degree and i wanted to make a student documentary, not talk about northern ireland and the difficulties that we faced here. and that's how i got into politics. the higher bobby, how are you? is this a resume? you helen as well? okay. just so you should just say yeah we, we, i just wanted to give you one of these here just with some of our details there at the bottom. so, you know, if you ever need to send this over, we are free. it was lovely to say your, again, i think my family were really quite shocked because i wouldn't be the most. they're
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kind of person. but i've made it very clear. this was something that really matter to me, things like mental health addiction and just advocating for our children and young people are just issues that really, really matter to me. so i thought, why not, you know, just give it a go. and lo and behold, i go to like the good evening everyone, i just like to make i smoke. thank you to arizona here tonight. so yesterday of the freezing weather weather and said no to the graduate of division invites that we have here in northern ireland. and i live so i hopefully, if i have a future political career of representing everybody in the for making quite a surprise for my family when i 1st went into it and they all said, don't do it like your life will not be your own. i think it was 18 days i from my election and i had received a facebook messenger message from the stranger who said hi there is that you in
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that video. and then he sends that i would describe to be an extremely pornographic video. the girl in the video is similar to me and height and weight and she, it and i saw the video and i was like, is this a prime? so i wrote back, this is crazy. it's not me. so from there my mind was just like what the hell just happened? why am i put myself through this? why am i in this job? but that was the, that was the purpose of this, but you was to isolate me and bars me and put me in a mindset where i think that was not going to happen is just like, i can not sit here a lawyer, this horrible person for he has done the most on thinkable, disgusting,
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despicable thing to an islet and ran not only my life, but this is a career that i worked so hard for. well, good afternoon everyone. i just want to thank you all for having me here today and allowing me to see what we're doing in here with the kitchen habits class. so oftentimes we do see people who have maybe a mental health diagnosis and also struggle with addiction, whether it's drugs or alcohol. and it's my job to do what we can to help support people who are essentially struggling as well. and just let you know, it's a pleasure to be here. as of right, you can give it, we post myself. so thank you very much. i'm left across the people or messaging me. within 15 minutes i had like a 100 messages and it was go in what i would describe as viral the
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have people laughing at me. so hang awful things talking to by my voice, the size of my breast. some people saying what they like to do to me, man, all over the world had made a point of calling me a or a slot. one person said our senior level video while lesson learned, i'm sure night and aisles aisle learn your last and i couldn't believe the nature of people's comments that they felt they had seen me naked. so they had a right to send me horrible massage in that state cru messages. a sort of a come par noise in the way. i didn't feel like anywhere was safe. the. so
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when these tools 1st imaged, they were difficult to use and people were sharing face for the videos of celebrities, female celebrities. and that's probably ball does, the tools became more testable. we started to see a massive amount of private individuals being targeted by the fakes. and i think we're probably now talking of millions of women around the world. and this is a truly global problem. my name's henry i to i'm at the fates and dinner today. i experts, so at the fake refers to use it obviously intelligence to generate a highly realistic but take synthetic content. so that could be swapping faces in videos, taking someone's space and putting on someone else's body. could be cloning voices by could hear me say things like i'm no longer was right. this video really took off. i think the physical one of the us but people are like, oh golf. this is something i can experience being food buying real time. i know
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it's not for you, and yet it feels so reason. see, i would never say these funds least not in the public address, but someone else was someone with jordan p by june of 2018 both feed and the film director and comedian told me to cooperate it on a public site. the announcement for take live ever since really we've seen a lots of coverage in the main stream. media of you know, how this is going to ruin democracy. how this is going to break news a man, you'll blame you for interfering with your democracy. but i don't have your knowing it's 3 or so and endorsed by with the opponent like hon. jeremy colby suited the prime minister of the united kingdom. but actually research i conducted back in 2019 from the, at the time. 96 percent of the defect videos online in 2019 what phonographic the
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the fee is around think face use in elections and political campaigns was really actually not substantiated by the evidence. that was really sort of drive home the point that at the time and still to this day in terms of malicious di, takes immediate use against women is the most powerful home that we, that we see affecting millions of women at this point when they faced best the most in 2017, i had a bit of a reckoning. i guess you could say that this technology was going to change the load. and if we fought for it to 2023, the quality is improved so much that it is the case that a lot of people contrast what they see anymore online. and we don't know what is a deep take and what is real content. we are reaching a really critical moment why these technologies are easily accessible there
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efficient, they need much data. net, realistic, us as a society, we will need to be thinking, well, how do we want these technologies to embed into what day to day lives? how are they going to improve our lives? what are the use cases where the, the kind of the balance is not what i really need a cup of coffee kind of, there's a nurse and my dad took care of us at home. we're passionate irish nationalists, but we're never ignite about our views. your politics was never discussed at the dinner table for me. when i went home from schools, it's like, this isn't going to disappear. this is one year later. yeah, i'm, we're state. so actually dealing with it and stuff, it's an impact and it's an impact on the whole family. i would have neighbors come
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up out of france, come up. i would have people who i didn't even know. yeah. say your daughter's, as i said, was that most of my daughter. yeah. and they said, oh, we don't know that. and you don't know that. yeah. it's just hard because all it takes is a seat of diet for people to change or they think about you. i mean, your file took by bob, i mean very badly. i think when your uncle came over here to to tell us all that time, he was so upset about the whole thing and somebody will do that. i'm going to do to get out of politics because of that, you know, i think the hard at that was probably the hardest part for me building trust, building respect your constituents. and then someone somewhere has sat in their bathroom, put a photo of me and holidays. you can create a defect video based it together with a photo of me and my poster. i was actually, if you think about it, hey, ever done, unless it was very smart because it's a traces crime like to this day. we do not know who did this and it's never being pulled in by police. mm hm. i think that in many respects was extremely
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disappointing because you're going to police. they were like, really sorry, this is happened new off technically right in law you should just press res bass. the lock. mm. i remember being like, you know, this is a horrible place to be a woman because of the right people. there's new laws protecting you, distributing and sharing dictate pornography is still lawful in most countries in the world. there's only a few countries that have taken action to criminalize distribution, dictate pornography. i'm claire mclinn and i'm a professor of law outside of the university in the there are many laws in most countries that could be used to target some aspects of the creation and distribution of deep fate pornography. so it is possible that the person doing that might breach copyright laws might seem to beach destination laws. but the reality is you have to have money to be able to take legal action. you also have to know
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who has created a distributed that deep fate pornography. there's very little, especially the ordinary people can do to challenge this activity. i think hard at that was probably the hardest part for me because i think we as women like we, we know that this is sort of a part of the female experience. how society believes the best way to put the woman is to objectify them, to sexualize them. and i think that's why after it had happened, i wanted to make a point of coming over that because i thought to myself, you know, no woman should have to enjoy this. well, yeah, get home as best. i wouldn't swear it was all i have to get done just joe. so thank god for fall. and i'm going to hand me the
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video as in charlie, my name is case isaacs and i am the founder of the not your point of campaign slash . it's not your phone campaign back in 2019, when a friend of mine ended up on point have without her consent. so i kind of come to tax and a video of her having sex with upon them was uploaded to point have and it was incredibly difficult to get it down. so i wrote to administrative justice, so hit i send out, there was no little that prevented a company from profiting from nonconsensual image based sexual abuse. and i decided i had to change that when i got started, i didn't have any experience and activism. i didn't know where i was getting myself and into and it was a lot harder than i anticipated. i was very naive. but yeah, stealing was pulled help was an experience to say the least. i think when use you
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see the type of stuff i had seen. you can't go back from that is, or the amount of content i saw which was so abusive and the victims i spoke to who shed their stories. and it was just at create stuff to have back in their life. and they lost so much of, you know, if it wasn't the job's it was, it didn't to. so i too, a logo together put together a campaign, put onto iso image base spectra abuse. this country is going to come over. fee industry has been profiting from this type of image based extra these for a long time. now these u. k registered companies, mrs. government's responsibility to hold is pulling companies to account. we need to fix this issue. it has grown a lot just by very i agree, i just went on twitch a days and to what it is now and i'm really proud of it. and i'm so proud of the women who have made it what it is today as well, which is a fully fledged nearly not for profit organization with
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a number of women working on the campaign almost full time. and we do things like sex education programs as goals, place programs to help officers deal with spec, tens of image base, sexual abuse, raising awareness, and helping out within government and consulting all different, not just ations time. so let, let me, let me see how are you? i'm good. how are you? yeah, good bye. call us back. thank you. how's your week? been busy, but not too bad. okay. how's your yeah busy to. and i mean, that's just so much it isn't ever that. so it says who about so much today. so sounds good. mm. right. so should be something doing a little bit of an update. yeah. so we're currently working on inferencing, a new piece of legislation, and i'm in the campaign that we're working on has been really effects to is because we have had some survivors come forward. it just really underlines how out of touch,
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not just the legislation is, but the way that policy makers, i know makers are thinking about the subject. it's not practical. i'm, well, you hope will happen. so our inforcement measure is that just not strong enough. it looks so great on paper, but it's not so it's sort by people, by thinking with legal minds and thinking with policy minds, not people that actually are living those experiences. we're at a stage now where we have to start tackling prevent. yeah. i'm, we're not doing that on top phones, and that was literally the crux of the campaign and myself today, it was about damage prevention rather than damage control. it was preventing this content from being allowed to be uploaded to these websites. because as soon as they do, they can be downloaded and then re upload it over and over again. and you'll just saying welcome home. we're facing an academic of deep se pornography, fabulous. who is being done to challenge the existence of the websites that are
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dedicated to the shaving, all deep fate pornography. and not simply because governments and politicians have not yet taken the action to try and stop those websites. we could do it if we wanted, say, bought governments and politicians are choosing not to. i think the real reason for this is the cost of fast overwhelming majority of victims or women, abuse and harms of women are just not taking sufficiently seriously. women are still marginalized, often vulnerable, often discrimination, as a guys in society. and what happens is that new ways are phones to exploit those vulnerabilities and to a pass to treat forms of violence and abuse. at the moment to the internet, companies and porn platforms are living their best life earning millions of money with very little regulation, whatsoever. it's up to governments across the world to take action to regulate
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those companies in the same way that we regulate cars, we regulate trains. we regulate the ovens that we to calling every night. we need to regulate the internet and we need to get governance to take by the where a modern world for ever changing. and we want to see more young woman and politics . it's really important that we have a diverse representation of people in our society and our governments. but when you're a younger woman, i think a lot of people, maybe it's my belief that you don't have a great experience or understanding. but i think young voices should be included. hey, i are, we'll get, we'll the grids for here today. i'm seeing. so again,
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i know you guys have been so passionate about, including young people and their voices and politics. so i thought today would be a good opportunity to sort of talk about issues a lot of cost. i think the government's a limit or so under represented. i think that leads to a lot of legislation been passed that um taylor's demand and it's written man by man. yes, we need to have it equal. we've come a long way, but i think we're still so far to go. but that's why the purpose so good in the case applicant for, you know, such a diverse range even in our youth group, should we do. and we really want to say diverse representation that reflects our ever changing sort of society. after the last election. we really want to do all we can tackle massage they in society and online
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education. so like you can educate traces of media and you can spread our message. i mean, given all of what's happened to me, i think the fact that we haven't seen a change in law is extremely disappointing. i had the power to change and have the law. i would do it right away. i think our government has a role in a job here and i think they need to step in and i think that will been impacted by these issues. need to be at the table talking about how to fix them. ok. ok. everyone. thank you so much appreciated your time. it was great. thank you. the . so it was $10.00 to $20.00 and we had just had a mazda victory in this point, have deleted 80 percent of that content. overnight. $10000000.00 video is gone.
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the unfortunately, like for the anything they were very small amount of people, particularly on twista who was very happy at that point had been deleted. and so i became public kind of made them, but they decided to target me and teach me a lesson. and then what they found my home address on my web address and they posted it on to me and said that they were going to follow me home, write me film it and upload it to point had which was gary. and then they decided to take one of the entries i've done on the u. k. news channels and integrate that into a deep fate pulling and create a narrative. the reason why i've wants to get rid of the pulling i'm pulling up was
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because i create support until myself and i was just trying to get it off the internet. and so they just tried to switch up that narrative and it was a way to just silence me. so that video on twitter, i'm assuming things that run through your head enough when one of them being oh my god, like, who's that my, who's recording this and then oh my god, it's on the internet. oh my god, how to, how do i get this off one side come down and those questions that stop circling, you realize, okay, this copy real cuz i don't have the all the 20th those questions. and so when i realized it was a deep fake questions and shift to keep this slight relief, but not for very long, because then you've got the question of okay, but it looks really real people guns think that is actually me because that's going to do the same damage and i knew that the place where it comes to anything, i had enough experience with this kind of stuff at that point that i knew they wouldn't do anything. i knew there was nothing i could say will do. i could keep
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pushing the narrative of that's not me, that's helped me. but it didn't really matter if it was or it wasn't because people going to believe what they wanted to leave. hi. i'm being serious. it's exhausting psychiatry to stay and die out and has so many victim survivors. when we have such a limited capacity to support, then we have to say to them the system is fighting you and we will do our best to support you, but doesn't limit to what we can do because the route to justice is just, it's not really that that terrifies me, that that can be westernized to try and shot somebody. yeah. it's a big reason why, you know, i am so tired and i, i'm ready to step down because actually we should have to been doing this in the 1st place. no, but you shouldn't have to worry about being deep faked because you're a campaigner. they should be situations that we do not have to fight for. like,
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that's not our job. it's not within our job. to be honest with you. i actually get a lot. most kids, every time i do an interview like this, because they could see you and started it because i'm putting myself back into it and back into the public kind. that creates more and that's scary to me. that moving home now. i'm sorry, i didn't realize i was gonna cry for to do it. yeah. tell me, tell me it's important to do it. it's important to spend. i spent the last 4 years asking women to share the stories because as people we
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listen to stories and stories make change for me not to do that when it is like what a hypocritical move deep sleep pornography is being used to harass women politics, to harass women off the in tonight. so all of all are in coverage in our public and democratic minds. the finance. so i agree, i don't think that it was for the rage. i sell the women and girls a top to to keep them cited, to keep them submissive. something that might have done that attenuation the we haven't seen any law changes to protect other women who could be the victim of this, this horrible thing that isn't considered a crime. so her lie to vary in someone's life and just get away with it. because
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i'm not the 1st and i knew when we'll get the last the race as long begun. later when we look back, we recognized at all, that's the moment when everything changed. it's all about tillman and in the age of artificial intelligence, in 5 years is going to literally be china. the us. oh, you're to control the technology that will shape the self humanity. we may only find out, you know, what the arms and, and malign uses as a weapon against democracy or when it is too small. it's new world,
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the a i re task much 16 on dw the cities and disappointed hopes, the year off to devastating of quakes, and se kentucky, hundreds of thousands of people in the region, the still holding out in temporary shelters. president ad one had promised rapid reconstruction, but this is still a long time coming, kind of been able to just come on in the way of hoping to resurrect this place on how to do that. but sometimes i think we just fooling ourselves a good many years. quakes is alive is a home to, to my true mind. fee is especially children. they loan for a little come for.

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