to reveal that so world, why did the us government suddenly shut down project cassandra in 2016? 03 pod document 3 series on most king has paula stats may 4th on d. w presidential elections in russia of the usual full gun conclusion, with nothing left to chalk, not even the death in jail as the leading opposition figure. i liked saying about me, whose name postern couldn't bring himself to speak. my guest is the russian commentary to andre kalashnikov, who had split kindly. he rush, are you ready just sent that in moscow? wasn't a valid me such a serious threat to put in his regime. but he had to be killed either to be in prison or when it was a threat to pretend that competitor may be invisible in an information field about the same time, quite mighty. and way to compress it fulfills it parts of the population. and

because of that, it was important to, let's see, eliminate him from the political fuel. so what's it like to live with a government that kills its political opponents, unseen from moscow? why the southern states of warnings by nato officials about a russian attack over the next few years. what does a know we done? on the color slick of welcome to complex of excellence. it's much, it's time for presidential elections in russia of id may i put in once a 5th time. that'd be my post and always gets what he wants is this is close to absolute power as it gets in russia. yes. so this is one more step to choose absolute power. but so when we're asking yourselves, where was this 20 points for she seems as a decrease of michigan magic because the development of history june was somewhere

in the year 2020. when she called the referendum about some of the med, most of the constitution, both of may think about 0 and copious present essential terms. and now she is over to the president. and the after is that all the doors were open for any steps. functions sites like to this war of february 22, 22 in questioning of nevada means the same year 2020 it doesn't have much to do with democracy. it does that. these elections, even mr. perkins spokesman. dimitri pest golf, tell the new york times last year, presidential election isn't really a democracy. it's a costly bureaucracy. so why bother with this show? because so this is one more attempt that demonstrates to the majority of the rest and populations that they, they are still the majority,

which is obedience, indifference and ready to continue to accept the protest initiatives as, as important events, minority minority is a must understand that they are still minorities as they can to influence and i think is this country because we have a majority which is in flash which supports proteins. so nothing to do with this political system. we can't change anything because of that. so this election starts to no significance. it's the same times as this one more, really rounds aflac. why not to, to repeat this kind of really and to refresher as a legitimacy or for you to correct. oh, credible candidates of being eliminated way before the polling stations open bar is not just in the anti war candidate. he was disqualified by the states because some traction for a while was he had a threat,

was he didn't the threat edition was quite attractive to the public who was liberal views. and you know, in the rush or millions of people who are sharing to liberal pro the critic pro western and to pretend the vision of the world. and because of that, in addition was kind of a fault for this people wednesday sent. and it's for she and i, and it was understandable that's a criminal decide. it's not till ocean to participate because she could sit undermines the feeling of absolutes, consolidation around putting in a case of guessing i don't know, 56, given 10 percent a man into it, it could means that the pretend he's not the only one who is so who deserves the support and there are people with the enter your agenda not to mention the terms of case. and i didn't include demonstrates enter your agenda via television and the

code. so shake says and use so for the majority, which is still not connected to the to be sent. so, so with no, they decided not to not to risk you from that slide risk. i'm alexa in the bottom, a dad and a prison camp in the arctic circle. was he ever really an electrical threat to prove to or was it that he and others like him? we're never going to be allowed to get anywhere near that status. the only didn't have an opportunity to participate in legal political process. but so when she does participate in the year 2013 during must goes to my ears elections. he was extremely efficient, astonishingly efficient for kremlin investors. and they decided to not to allow him to participate in any kind of like options. so she was the real threat to put to getting them to some moments. so moment to the means that pasta the whole political

process reduced, busy. now this is fine between the fall knee and approach him and is that sense even being can prison that when it was a threat to pretend that competitor may be invisible in an information field about the same time, quite mighty and square to compress it for, for the parts of the population and because of that, it was important to let's see, eliminate him from the political field. do you by the story that he was about to be swapped for a kayla. so having time in germany, do you by that story? of, we don't know the truths may be, will know nowadays, but it looks like global story. and in this sense, simple, it wasn't requested dance. uh that she was,

let's say maybe killed maybe by some maybe something else. so we have to wait for some results sofa. she's still able to search. true. maybe is the gym to clear up some good deals. and i found this family is pretty clear and his colleagues are pretty clear that the state did kill him. you wouldn't seriously argue with that, would you? i would say likely. so the experience of this regime demonstrates that it's as possible. let's remember as a case of st policy or in any other cases and put in the several times to repeat it and you are anxious, courier. that's my pets, realty color oriented, or again, since people do that, but these and because of that among people with uh, let's say liberal views, there is no doubt. that's why they put the keels. uh no,

no, we don't have a conclusive evidence of it so, but the feeling is very strong. come on russian civil society. we know that they tried and failed to kill him back in 2020 and we know because the millions listen to government assassin, describing his previously unsuccessful attempt to kill him about a little realizing that he was actually talking to him about the i'm being recorded by him at the time. so nobody's going to believe any government denials of a underscore. uh, you know, which means what do we mean by nobody to because of the majority still prefers to believe freedom, main unofficial version. or prefer us not to think about this. the horrible story. yes. a lot of russians, they didn't know about the person, things that i didn't know about the stuff now,

but i'll needs it in this account on your arctic circle. but uh, the majority prefers not to boulder itself. uh uh, not to pay too much attention to, to this for us in order to keep for themselves mentally normal. um this of tomorrow, but the majority prefers not to know anything about. uh, like, uh, uh, cuz you know, which is still with his, uh, does this thread cetera. and because of that, that's more about belief with disbelief amongst people with a normal view swiss a democratic fused glory viper, i'm a lawyer at the human rights group. memorial said, if they could kill nevada on the baker, kill anybody else. if he's right, where does all this and all the killings all the political prisoners. why does this end? i know the real threat is to political prisoners,

i'm sure. no, we don't have a political position in the proper sense of civil worth right now because of a higher level of professions. kyra's in the, in names a substitute new new orleans the last year or so for his existence. and i, i, i would say that unfortunately, for instance, people like to let him know kind of what was a, or, yeah, yes. and could be under threats, but not everyone in dissidence community, but the main one of the most local people from mazda political position, because barto was a political position as a broad sub parts. so for the leaders that are in prison. so for people who are in prison, so there was a real threat, i think unfortunately, you spoke of the found this funeral about moral resistance among the population, people carrying flowers and candles to his memorials. how much of that moral

resistance is left in russia? uh, i guess transit schwartz moral because as i said, political position isn't so efficient right now. and this is more about a moral resistance and about political resistance. this people can fight as they don't want to fight for power. they don't have fully their asses. they don't have organizations which are totally liquidated, by the regime, even small in jewels about the dose of the most to raise as a funeral. and the dentist way to that this civil society is still here with most different societies such which is very different. so passive and full of conformist and civil society, the society of responsible citizens who to hold for the best for, for the country, for in

a permanent order because of this war. they've demonstrated that they are here. it was a huge step for people for folks who are going to to the funeral because of the, the face recognition system is working and sometimes, but listening to coming to a to is a flat. so is this people after a different kind of events, wolf funerals, like the link flowers as a man, as a place? as of man, there we go for political repression, so it cetera, cetera. so if you want to see the so civil society in the rush, we can open, for instance, the website over then for was. so is it concrete statistics about persecutions, about criminal prosecutions, administrative persecutions, extrajudicial persecutions. a lot of examples of these kind of problems for russian citizens, but she resist civil society, which is still ready to resist and ready to at least to

think of all the constitution, think about so as a responsibility, collective responsibility you, you talked about values, legacy. i'd like to know how long you think it will last, isn't it inevitable that as the years go by, that will be less and less opposition? moral or real repression works best and it progressions efficient. yes. for precious work, but at the same time, no. this fatigue from room is also sheer. and in a case of a minor successor for a civil society and demonstration of what to use uh, some people cuz it's 18 corpus difficult for me so they can shares of use sofa. and this actually, if a single society activities, so in that sense or actually isn't hopeless and i think it was just like and so the

attempts were when most people were ready for changes when gorbachev key, when government were much referred to, could the power ends as being a bunch of population is also ready for changes, but so, you know, in current circumstances kind of a single though most came from the very top and the was out a change in the 1st person, i guess. so the serious changes in russia are impossible. veteran now extraordinary efforts and you've outlined some of them to, to clamp down on even the slightest infractions of this expanding penal code that they authorize is keep adding to. we hear of teachers in schools reporting a 10 to 11 year old pupils to the security police books, a band people arrested on the metro because they were reading something. but that fellow passengers didn't like every case pursued with the utmost vigor and

brutality. and i suppose my question is, is the state really that is secure about its hold on paul and its people? you know, it's smarter bell cell development of russian style. all sorts here is my would say is this is not simply and assorted terrorism is more about a name, it's high, but it's a tell it to it is the same utilitarianism because the state is trying to infiltrate into all this for yourselves. a private life of people you to want it wants to control, for instance, seaters repair to ours, uh, book markets, libraries, etc, etc. but nevertheless, this societies mother and licensed as a sort of a well educated society and people are trying to keep for the private space to see more and more or less normal situation. and it looks us to print it's some, some movies are pretty cool with appear in this such

a strange hospitality around space. so yeah, is there a difference the threat slight denunciations from your competitor else? but nevertheless, it is still, it is still civil society and i can repeat it as not so hopeless and get the chance survives this period. but the, the space of deliberate to you for free the, my scenario is this is through. but if you wants to do something, you can try. and some people are trying to, to write to articles, to be vocal, to, to, to talk, at least to talk about the constitution. it's, it's not a dresser, it's not help does it by the fact that so many ordinary citizens appeared, willing to inform on each other on their colleagues and their families and their friends. how destructive is that to the fabric of russian society destroys trust

of the yes, it's true, it's true. the trust is not so the strong side of the society is the trust of each other. but some people simply prefer not to talk with unknown persons. they prefer to talk to canal, so they are trying not to be so vocal sitting in congress, for instance, to say preferred not to discuss political issues. this is true. but you know, it's the same time uh again who, who wants to resist can try to do it. for instance, if there is such a new magazine which was initiated by the noble lord, it's a mr. moore auto for is the title going to be in the corporation was the truth foundation. and this is one of the attempts to, to, to,

to, to create something to you. even in this circumstance. there was some problems with this magazine, but it is still in the fields. so why not to try to do something? uh and uh, this, it, it, it's contribute. so something like hope for the future. when we talk about hope, let's also talk about the war in ukraine, which has of course, exacerbated the repression level good costs. leading russian sociologist says there's a high degree of support for the war highest among the educated and the educated in moscow does not surprise you. yes, uh, is there a lot of surprising stories, especially in the field of mess psychology in meso silver chain. and uh, you know, this is all about people who are afraid of changing their life. they are trying to

avoid problems with themselves. which means that as a full flip, say, double thinking of a pretending the war doesn't exist. so they can to avoid the mentioning fee to thinking about the balance is a trained not to do it publicly, maybe the same people, but who they want to continue as a career, as for instance, in the university. so something like that. but as a, a private spacing, their quizzes selected to us in sylvia time. so they can discuss freely the current situation with the core, with some assessments which are not public. let's see, this is more about privates assessments private life. so this is more about double thinking. you said, recent pay that pretend has made clear russia is fighting a permanent background war with the west. that argument gives his image ration on

his way to maintain power. does put in one that war in your view. oh yes, she wants me. she's the main initiator, i'm sure. is that, and is this personal, this decreasing? put in was the main source of, of this war was this idea. ology, which justifies for the russian id, was a nation, atlanta in nationalistic and imperialistic ideas. very archive. now that deals to the for the tradition, send the spiritual values, etc, etc. and she must invent. so the goal for the society. so it's just not coping is more capitalism. and they invented some travelling, this permanent for, it was the best, the best was also taking us. so we must defense our sales. and even though we're expansion expansions, this is kind of, this is more about defense. and uh,

the reason the reports reese, i'm sorry to interrupt you, reset the intelligence reports in the west of suggested russia intends to double the number of its troops on the border with the baltic states and finland. and people have spoken. officials, government officials in several countries have spoken of the fact that that could possibly be attacked by russia on the nato countries over the next few years. how plausible do think that these things is produced, p r. o to be sold to, to, to, to, to look so mighty. so impress if uh, uh, and i guess he wants to create i am, she's a political philosophies. this is a part of russia for sure. and she wants to return as transferred, as he says. so this territories, she doesn't care about the baltic states freelance or, or pulled this as

a lip service. in my opinion. she will not have enough resources for one more flank, one more front. uh, she simply wants to continue. this permanent poor was the best as a goal for the society, but at the same time in the practical terms and apply it to her. and she doesn't want to, to take the, for instance, voltage stays because it will mean the real war was nathan, intuitively much more serious. so that's just sort of a tuition of what is your brain? does nato look weak to russia to put in a not so weak about to what was this very majority of the society, which in looks like a strong man, chloe, who is equal to tomato. nice who is more of both a mature for the main enemy, united states of america, nathan, in europe, is kind of a such a line to of uh,

of nato in the ends. united states. you said last month that despite old, a new career saved by rattling but we've heard from fulton, they don't want the afraid of nuclear war. what makes you so sure of that jose and also as you settled, they must understand that. so you're gonna use those, the technical the ukes could be suicidal for uh, for, for the region, for the country. uh they want to leave for they want to enjoy this life and because of that. so, yes, so the, so nuclear black mailing, she's quite impressive. i'm glad to fetch soon as it is quite effective because it's presented to prevents as the west from giving the sophisticated weapons to you . correct? yes. as a problem for actually. so that's a very conversations that talk about the nuclear work became such

a lights. my talk, we can do it. why not? this is a main danger to proceed the domestic public so that it is possible. this is a danger. a british historian wrote recently that society is like russia, autocracies, don't bend, but they can break. do you believe that after all, russia has broken, the soviet union broke up the button wall came down, communism was denounced as a failed experiment. under what circumstances do you think russia could conceivably come apart? now, you know, when we're talking about this, the future ends, the behavior of our lights. they're behaving like that, according to the drover up in order to look after us as it is a slot. and in that sense, they hopelessly as they have enough resources to continue this work until the physical end of uh, putting them to his team. but uh,

their services could be depleted. and the next generation though, for petitions they will have to take responsibility for the country, for the european security and this as an interest of the west, coca cola and interest, the mutual interest of the russians. it was said to have a new generation of people who can recreate discounts for you from 0. this one a full account because the services, i'm not to the terminal. so the bills are full. russia, that's the alexa in the valley you talked about does exist somewhere down the line and you'll view it exists in the, in the soul, southern brain. so for pro democratic russians as they are here and those they will be ready for changes when the time will account. i'm very caustic of thank you very much for being on comforting, so. thank you. thank you for having me here. the,

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