of sizes and you're up to date, but stick around a rev is up next, looking at how norway, a country rich an oil is reading itself of comes question engines. and david levitz, thanks for watching dw, the west. i know. hi, i right. just do it, and i'm hosting dw new pod cast. thanks. trace amount. bother. today about joining us as we travel around your, facing the history of every day of that. and that's something right around the world. no need to talk about justice subscriber id, listen to forecasts and we'll take you along to the right. did you know that norway souls way more electric cars per capita than the us? norway? well, buddy isn't kidding. but how did

a nation build some fossil fuels to come and eat the power dice? and what did these things pump legends have to do with? it's the already these really, the o'neill said to all problems we are you that easy buying that? i think people, that's the most important thing for the crime as of yet suspected of too many of these maybe there's most of this electric utopia then meets the eye as well to understand new ways, a b obsession. we 1st got to rewind to the 1918 believe it or not, no ways not for ease goes way back to the late eighty's when since pope band hall was in switzerland. and so for us to come to the, to being converted to run on an electric power lead single motion hawk, it brought a similar call to norway where he began driving. it's invest nines refusing to pay

total parking fees. the arguments, tvs was good for the environment and to be incentivized that call go to him pound that many times. i'm put up for auction at which point the band would buy it back and repeat that performance. they was sped on by environmental. this is frederick conk, and how old and rustic dan's hicks have the desired effect on the since pump revolution helped to give way to the countries e v. revolution. the, it's a part of the beginning of the story. definitely, but a lot has happened since then. this is christina boone, the secretary general of the norwegian e. b association, a non profit founded in 1995 that helped advocate for easy adoption shape policy and liaison between the government. i'm bias possibly a little more influential than uh huh. in transforming new way into the land of the e. v and into a country in on musk themselves. today

no ways e b statistics of bomb cuz study shows that he's accounted for 82.4 percent of new ways. new passenger cost sales in 2023. and that's not including plug in hybrids. and in 2020 for those because somebody becomes strong. we aren't above 92 percent because to stronger policies implemented in last year's budget. so the budget for this year and the yeah. for the 1st time in history, you might be able to reach a climate goal, which is a very good feeling. she's referring to no ways 0 emissions 2025 go. essentially the countries aim is that in 2025 own you call sold will either be by tree electric vehicles or fuel cell electric vehicles. in other words, they're aiming for no new and tunnel combustion engine. calls to be sold in 2025

foot lower than that lights up. norway's e v landscape is dominated bytes tests, which in 2023 became the most sold car brand in the country for the 3rd year in a row. because of the story and nobody has to be in it. it started, of course, with the fast seats around is the editor in chief of no region comm magazine. my time the 1st cars have been the breakdowns and the cars know because a lot of the bad press, but then they got their act together and then they have really stepped up so, so they are, they are a today have a good, strong position in people's thinking about the both of the brands what we've seen though is that there's definitely a situation and especially in the last year or so where, where tesla has increase their market share when it comes to how many cars that smell. and it was january a year ago where they increase the price is quite

a lot. and we've seen that other car manufacturers and the porters might have had a big board problem with competing with tests in 2023. the model wine was no ways best selling cars over 23000 units sold around 3 and a half times as many as it's near restoring volt, the volkswagen id full, which isn't to say that norway doesn't have any issues with the tests. it's thrown it support behind its neighbors. sweet way unions with them on things best of wages and working conditions. and it also helps look the impulsive test as into sweden. but this hasn't affected the number of testers in no way. in fact, even as americans struggled with their own product, the norwegians have been steadily in the midst of things they gained the front. the ease of gain such rapid popularity in the cold, vast notate landscape, has put to rest fee is about the batteries not doing well in sub 0 times about range anxiety. a visa,

rapidly closing in on 100 percent market share in no way. the only reason it's not congress is that a toyota is logging in in production of the, of the these, the moment they authorize on board. uh, which is a big brand set, the biggest brands in the way. it will be these all over. but how the heck did no way do it for 2060 and we haven't go to reducing amazon's by 90 to 95 percent. this is also stated in the law. so the climate law, this is rock notes, is that the state secretary of new ways, climate and environment ministry. and it turns out henrich gibson was really the norwegian government didn't just draft 1000 what policies instead they did things. the early eaves in norway will ult looking machines that reminded you of kermit the frog, the sink city a. but the, for example,

when to exactly the most popular cause in the country, that historically has no drawing thing. that was the country that's produced, some pretty phenomenal drive is nice fits this old bag fits the electric mobility isn't a policy is an issue in no way the specific goal of having all new sales of vehicles in 2025 to be serial. mission is the, the, the goal that has been there all along across different governments. i think part of the success in norway especially kept the policies in place for a long time. and it's partly due to the different political parties agreeing, at least a certain extent. the green, but also agreement across to sort of civil society sector. even if governments have come and gone, no ways, health costs on its climate goals. and the policies that go hand in hand with ex,

any moves to encourage the adoption included tax exemption on buying electric cars . and the drivers didn't need to pay total parking fees. cool for the use of fairies when crossing no waste famous fields. but some of these measures have since been rolled back to ensure the policies don't just benefit the rich. so tax exemptions still exist for ease cheaper than $45000.00 to rise. we argue that you'd be buying the electric vehicle. that's the most important thing for the car with them. yes sir. so it's not necessary to have a really expensive electric vehicle. just the function of a one, a reasonable price, and as a be used as encouraged to help meet the 20250 emissions go hybrids and internal combustion engine costs are discouraged by being price time. there will be no spot on ice cars, even new ice cars in 2025 bucks. this is the politicians that has

decided these goals and they have to use and they are using the mixtures, they have to make it happens. and those semesters is the taxes that we have in your way. in practically practical terms, it means taxing ice cars or combustion engine. cars out of business was really interesting though, is that no waste, the policy existed long before the technology became viable. so over the last decade or so, even well, policies remains relatively unchanged. the number of e b, 's available, change down the rate of ab adoption rows sharply. then if you look at each of these and the rate is actually proof of just one thing and that is public data works the display, no ways the success story. there are a few concerns that are too many easy with the race to meet the 0

emissions go does concern the charging that what was the able to support the number of these the country is expect tv and professor is not good. let's do the only reason you can go from north to south and no way within the v is because of the tesla. we don't have an interest tester today that can handle 5 times as many cars as soon as of today today. there's obviously like all the and so called normal charging for ac, charging for people to use on a weekly basis when they exit or just park in the street. so that's probably one of the challenges going forward. time. there's a worry that incentives to buy a these are acting as a deterrence to people using public transport, something the government is activity trying to remedy. so we have urban growth deal . that is an agreement between the local authorities and the governments in the big cities, making sure that we have for the semesters, it's a month to reducing the dressing gross or stating that the gross and traffic should

be with public transport, working, or cycling. all the somebody that has sparsely populated country like norway, with great distances between cities, would ever be able to completely win itself off the com. i think you're pretty to do the few things that norway can do only with public transport in the whole country. but in the city like also berg and the biggest cities, obviously it's a very major push to, to have public transport and have people, bike and, and fox. but even the world's e v capital has a long way to go to fully electrify its transport. the remaining part now to make it successful for all segments. also the heavy duty vehicles just to make sure that we have charging stations or heavy duty vehicles. so that's the next step in electrifying that. no, we didn't transport subject when we talked about the 2025 go,

we're very close to reaching it for passenger cars. but for light duty vehicles we know so well we don't perfect. what is the way to go that or um, well, the energy going into know ways these is green, mainly hydro and wins. there are often a few eyebrows raised over the fact that norway is a significant exposure of fossil fuel. we are in touch with your do really noise of nestle, fortunately is based on annoying. there's no reason to go look at no races, especially green concrete, the exports, i guess 2 years after the an important mission to have and then just security in this confidence when it comes to transports. there is also an aspect to remember that electricity is more energy efficient then, and also to best we have to start with from $4.00 to $12.00. other things increased focusing on changing the energy assistance from profiles to renewals. and as that

happened so far, oh, so he's showing gas from europe really increased gray areas aside. the question remains to know ways a be success feedback protected by the rest of the well to come back time. it seems well, there are lessons to be learned. i hope that more countries would do like your way to do strong policies. you can buy a new car today as part of the 20 years. it's ridiculous, but replicating the methods used by which country but the funding, green energy and the fed, the small population is always going to be tricky. this is left about the leasing theme are different from other people. this is about the reason i'm having to talk with you and see to buy supercars, to being electric because of the tax and system. and that's really the main. what's your take on new ways the strategy and do you think it could be implemented in your country? let us know in the comments below, the

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