the young people clearly have the solution. the future is 77 percent. every weekend on dw the this week on the 77 percent street debate. i believe the main uh the weekend being or as i would say, i'm independent. does that bother you? yeah. well, mine was based on this, it may even be a hot spot in the old. we sometimes think of them as babies. yeah, alpha as was, is already come on. the babies were sure to allow residents to impose the quadrant understanding of what a family is. one, as african wasn't as not ready. okay, cool. awesome. well, what i can read it enjoy. and when you find the egg or the even holding hands, let me tell you,

we are feeling so single today on this with the hello and welcome back to the 77 percent strict debate this week. we are a library, it's capital of monrovia. now you might be familiar with the expression, strong african woman in this country, they suddenly having had a female president, elizabeth johnson. but this strength in women is sometimes discouraged when it comes through magic relationships. particularly the applicant concepts such as everyone to find out why, who better to accept this question for me then some like barriers. and we're going to start with the couple on the panel. we have a couple this so loved up austin insurance. hello. thanks for joining us. so let's start with the basic question of your day to day when you wake up in the morning giving me a little clue about who does what in the morning, what's your morning routine, like since how you're really signing, let me start as well. thank you. um in the morning i wake up around

55 like 530 a get my kids ready for school wide. he's dead getting ready for work. okay, so what do you say that's your domestic responsibilities. uh sort of equally split between the 2 of you. yeah, it is. yeah. but i mean, this is not something easy, right? a lot of couples have difficulties doing this even, you know, more than weld austin. how did you manage to strike this balance? i think it comes more with the level of education. i grew up before getting into the relationship. so how do we couple of books before getting married? how to go to counseling for like 4 months. so we kind of prepare me. so basically i'm able to wake up early morning and get hot water for the kids. i'm able to be beeping the little girl while she has to be burying cobra or something. so yeah, i think is good and i enjoy doing you abraham, where are you? i know that you have a biblical name and also an old fashion stands on the concept of equality and

relationships. tell me a little bit about that. for me. i come with 4 african quarter background and they are. ruth described to me both men and women. so if you know your responsibility and you know you're right and you know your limit, we can have discussion and these things can go on. all right, so that i'm not assuming anything. tell me what these responsibilities are based on your roles. and by the way, we're keeping it strictly headphone number 2 for the purposes of this conversation . yeah. so uh, for instance, um, i believe that most of the 1st choices, you know, are offered in context uh uh, the responsibility of the women. but the make them be of help. so let me tell you, i'm laughing because the women behind me are really saying you subject something then? yeah, i would, i would like you to complete it please. so you started by telling me women's responsibilities in their relationship. i had turned over to one. do all the health

choice? no, i said, most of the res response, most of the 1st choice is the woman's responsibilities. so what does the man do then? you know, i will i be when setting is the head of the home and he actually is the one who provide security for the, for the home, for the family, he's responsible to, to, to provide for the home. okay. well nick, yeah. who, who, who, who tell me, what's going through your mind because you were touching your fingers as he was speaking. i mean, i was the site that because we've got that when we disclose, you have like a equality relationship. my thoughts was low and i was like no, so now actually jerry, i'm defending what i stand for. that's what i'm even jeremy. oh. but a just like press our christian nation for us this. so having a man and the woman in the home that can be no you quite, it is so okay, just for clarity or nikia here. definitely believes in the biblical rules assigned

in christianity. and so you think that the mind is definitely the head and the woman should submit. all right, and tell me what you're thinking. the always a female is a feminist and an activist knowing that liberia was set on the basis of peach. iraqi just explains why they are a no saying these different things. but when you look at who said those rules, who's who give the responsibilities of a woman take in charge of the firm and doing the choices. you would know that the men said those rules and wish we'd be leave with very buyers, right? because women's potentially is way be your own, just taken care of home. so i think there is a very big inequality based on the foundation of picture actually that was set up in our society that set our system to be very biased. all right, i want to hear from some people at the back, right. let me get some reactions. come close to, to me, please. i don't want to. and the american young get caught me. so hus with just

cool. take yellow, somebody movie that, mary supposed to be of this just to stick to the house. i want you a little point, you'll be the society. it's like, i'm going to be what it would mean. yeah. okay. that's a good question that she's asked uh, let's have somebody else here. i'm gonna try to listen to this nice, then it gives the ego will mind having you go right. remain home. and i that is right. i'm here to monrovia to defend our culture and woman was based on mississippi, and nobody's still happy like that. the only reason why we have is stimulus loving women, the i to visit it because of the of, of wide education. so would you rather be just stayed at home once educated like that's the route of the month. they have to be what they have to, to give the house of the woman that it has to do it is that that's, that's the best decent. that's all quite sure why. so that's just issues. i someone ask themselves, why does you adopt a book culture? ok. so quick question, i'm a woman here who's doing this job of asking questions, and moderating. i would say i'm independent. does that bother you?

yeah, it. well ma'am, you know, african culture must not be defend and it'd be like, you'd have been in the african question. what do you have on the day you'll see up in the many in the, in the village. what if i told you that in my culture, women actually the heads of the home by so culture, you know, gods and that was said yeah. in the back onto the women that there was something missing. let's hear from the people who was nothing. oh, yes, i believe the minute the week yes, being on f men of the weakest beings on us. okay. so they use those rules totally met. we mean, because we make and once he's ducks, we make up the professional. first thing, it can be a host wife. it can be a family person. admin can do that. so the limit that you mentioned was sent to you. so you are supposed to be on particular position for you too. and so are you a marriage or relationship?

is not that yeah. okay. uh uh, just just a 2nd. let me just bring this uh group to back to order. yeah. so that we can get to rooted back in our conversation. so there are a few issues that have been raised here, which i want to just check with. the 1st one is that african culture dictates that the mind is the head of the home. but this is not true across most african culture . in fact, most of them a matriarchal. so what happens to your arguments then abraham? so uh it might actually be argued that it is an african to be patriarchal. what we're seeing is been taking out a context because um, and no disrespect or feminism, other people no, no disrespect. but that is a responsibility assigned to somebody. and that does not take away maybe a help or maybe a butler to my fiancee. but our african culture,

it says that as far as route to everyone, so that role should be respected and we shouldn't allow west in us to impose yeah, quadra understanding of what a family is on an african. okay. so let me come back to the couple of the even holding hands. let me tell you we are feeling so single today on this. so when you hear some of these a sessions, i can imagine that the muscles that the people in your family who also have hold similar views, committed assess the letters, you work up and you know, wash the dishes, you the man, you work up. just get ready for work and move on, you know, and then you start to follow that. i don't get a while, you do that. so we're going to have the money. and what is going to shop people is that on the moon you as a me, you benefit a lot if those equality in the home. so i thing was you have that. so i, we're grabbing was the shift is normal. it keeps,

it keeps us happy. you know from that is, is a lot funny to your mother comes to visit you and dentist, easy. washington dirty clothes. she's like, why is my phone rousing daddy close? okay. yeah. so shuttle, let me hear from you. did you get grief from the in laws you're making the sun wash? this is how day let. let's say this is quote, to have a healthy husband in the home is very, very good. it helps you relax my wasn't, was my ready. oh, cool, cool. bought, i bought the bought i, i can read it, enjoy and when you find me x i get rid of it so it when you find me plenty, he's not ready. okay, cool. right. all right, let me just a minute. even the bible, i'm a priest that she is, even the bible says you should submit one to another. so it's not about the most submitting to you the man, but you guys got to submit to each other. i have to come to a nikiya bucks. so that's um, that's the last of so i may do one to another. is that a play as well?

we'll talk about and then. sorry, let me just go back a bit with you on. so it was logged in to mention it bought my house more help in. so let so for example, if i have this fax to do and i'll call him on all of that for that move. it's actually a my, he's let me the built in when it comes with a list of mets in the morning or in the home that she'll be hit. and that is a resume and that's not if we have precedence, right? i will, there are work in place if we have bosses right. let me know who that should be on it. okay, so because you mentioned president, i mean if this is your position, right? how did you feel when liberia elected the female president did you feel it was also focused that shows that women also lead way? well, that doesn't mean that have the president involved in is she had walked, it doesn't even, that'd be such as the president of the republic of liberia, such as going to be a step of, uh, okay. uh no, they something that was mentioned regarding the choice of woods, you know,

and i think and it you explained it really well. the use of the wood help shuttle has said its again, you know, my husband helps around the house. are we using the correct language because of uh what you said, it implies that the job is yours and somebody is just coming to us. yeah, i think we're not using the right words because it's not help. right out manage projects. and one thing i know of a partnership is that you have 2 different people with different ideas and different backgrounds coming together to agree on something that the want to do is share similar values, right? and that's the same with partnership. so there's no one coming through so the other because if you the other is down. so now like i will see it, i go back again to see that some side see what is foundation. allison site that was being by years. and this is why you see education like you talk about west teen people coming. change is inevitable because of education, right. the things we knew 10 years ago have changed the way when we did things,

we no longer do it right. we've come to realize to put censure of women, especially looking at us having the precedent of the new price it in right. and looking at what she was able to achieve in her term and how she approved the issue of in quality. and we may split, say, show not just in like bureau, but regionally, and as well globally. so tell you that we may have more, we may have what, what to insure and not just call us. and so i see it having been cancelled. okay. let me hear from my duty for a 2nd because we haven't spoken to her. you just want to investigate this idea of the head of a home because because no one has talked about partnerships in the contemporary. well that's we live in today. do we still need that classical head of a home where i have no interesting relationship anymore? it is because of, uh, what i went through when i was a relationship. so i had to quit 2019 because uh i had an a deal safe

pregnant. well while it protective, and he was very abusive. so i went to it. i held my god like king. i have a look up in the morning and what so what sucks for bucks are in what it will be. i mean, we have to be 33033333. i need to understand is what do you mean? put stokes. but what, what, what, what helps him dress up in the morning, like a child was what i went extra martin, you know, helping to my relationship. okay. and so i have a question for you as he was treating him as a king, as you're saying, which by the way, up salute lee. was he treating you as a queen? well, he was abusive. he was really abusive. so he has actually the mid mutual lost interest in having relationship. and when i see people are like, you know, quite pause and, you know,

i feel like they're not being true to each other. yeah. okay. so obviously not all relationships which have that dynamic will end up in abuse. yeah, let's just be clear about that. however, it can because these a power dynamic that has not been addressed. so how do you bring how to navigate this? so for me, people always put or have a negative connotation. when it comes to head, are we not saying that there will much would be there one to address you is not, is that it will most responsibility to address you if that is happening, that's abuse. knowing your rules is different from being abused. ok, but because you keep coming back to roles and responsibilities, right. and a question was asked, who gets to decide what the rules and responsibilities are? it's the head of the home. in this case, according to your argument, the man, how do you know when you're taking it too far?

um, so we live in a society and we have our african quarter. so that's what i said, you need to know. you're right. that's the 1st thing i said is, you know, you're right. you can be, you can be in a relationship and you have values. so if someone is going, there's a value that's a no, no, i'm saying that the i ascribe this for men and women who hold them very clearly. okay. i mean, that's your position and that's perfectly fine. we've had many things rights including this additional is to think that's we mentioned, even be educated, right. these are realities in this country. so what are the consequences of such extreme view points, right? we've seen in your case unfortunately, abuse. what are some of the consequences in your society? no. yeah, of course i would just go into a point now of the issue of,

of abuse. the issue of vile and communication is then going to generate and get another generation of young people that will be very violent in your due for an actions. all right, have to guess verbena is one, right? yeah, it's cool. but my point is, if you have seen that, what is should be equal? why i submit to pay a diary. why? samantha, i wouldn't mind what ever it is about a minute where you go to the wedding, is it completed that way? right, so watkins repeated meant that he says you want to be, we'll see what you wanted to be in a direct that we know you'll see something here. so if you had a man's out of it, then we knew it, he wouldn't quantity. but what somebody's spear, your direct is not c. uh so obviously it, but us on the control. let me, let me ask who i'm sure and tell because because if bright price has been paid, then technically you'll under his control. do you agree with this or not? well, he has to pay money for his wife. that's the me that the web should be on the why

you are on top it both of you should be equal. because to both of you, i want to make you also better or better, please. not all possible grow. ok lisa, i want to hear from you because the question of right price is it time to perhaps get rid of some of these traditions, if be a guessing in the way of quote unquote progress. i think it's time and there's no other time than now because the issue you've asked to use award control, we in the fact that women should be called and called control, is it the men losing the masculinity with the powers scituate de know, who is the rest of your brother's shoulder and man which i'll do, i am the main. there's one. the moment is is that he lost his masculinity because he has no power for the fight that you're talking about. i have the control over this. i want to do this. i want to do that, i should do that you, unless it's the got the point you're talking to,

to come through with. if i die one might have a level of understanding to knows what you need to do. she knows what she wants to do. so if you're standing in a way that's the time you make the announcement, i'm the man here because you feel she has picking up the steps to be what she wants to be. if you have friends, they view rather to comply with you a many this place they were, i try to bring them down to the i agree because they will not understand where to put the 0 to complex. we do have to wrap up at some point and my duty, and i do want your opinion on this. when it comes to the professional space, we're talking about an inferiority complex here, lisa, alluding to men, perhaps feeling small, which is why they need to a set themselves overly. but what does it do to be met in a professional space when domestically at home? your husband or your father, keep telling you this is your place. this is your place. can you fully participate in society at every jews as your output in limits, you know, and it makes you to have no confidence in yourself. and i can tell you when i

was going to all of those abuses, my output wasn't good at all. when i go to work, i transfer aggression. i was a happy i wasn't myself right now. i few. i feel good. yeah. yeah. yeah i'm, i'm really glad that you, your feeling much better now and really thank you for sharing. so as we conclude this additional list has left us, but oh, he's yeah, he's, yeah, we had requested at the beginning of this debate, which was why us wrong. we meant for you had so in relationships and we've had quite a number of view points here. the question now to conclude is, is there a reason to change that dynamic? should we go back to our old ways? should we continue as we are? is there a needs to even standardize and why let me hear from, oh, i am so afraid to bring the microphone to you. but let's hear you. let's say your point is a need that we'll go back to our tried the shift. and the reason why we haven't is

defeated is because we have to have someone else now. so we have it down to the western culture. and that is that, that is what all women are risk that hit. that the reason that voice and noise will happen when we wait, no technicians who put a glass of that was happy when it was missing, but it was to the court on the have to do everything. and that is what will happen to the bid. and that it's like not assuming this and that is all about why you weren't at it, cuz now we made us find a new home. okay, so let me just, are you working for example? and you must have female bosses. how do you respond to that? oh, of having a bus mean a female is going to come to get it to decide ready though see hard being submissive. sometimes she just, she just was point, know how to man, and that is my high supposed to be so well not being a bus that can be family abusive to me. oh, okay i, i honestly cannot believe that i am hearing these words in 2023, but um, but, but i mean you'll, you'll, you'll view points,

let me get one last one. he has been abused with eagle and because of the eagle, the having them that they were born with. i don't know if it's a true. that's why they don't the 10 know to assess 17th. does that mean when the lid is mickey higher income than to mine? he feels the need to all without even. and it'd be anything he feels i know i'm i'm the one was supposed to to mikhail incom then hor, so push us forward because when we me i am power with me. i advocate telling me i learned this aside to become better because come on with kyra children in our rooms for 9 months, which is huge. so new on dustin relationship because we've gone with them for a name was when you come outside of a boat with them, it even be a hot spot even though we sometimes think of them as babies. yeah, alpha as boss is already come on. the baby's man to support me, then what could be able to be the home and it's society better that all right, let me hear from this gentleman who has been trying to speak with me the entire

time. let's say your view point. what about the account? what am i, is that a love, homer? i respect and take care of the home for my be now at a kid there. so you know, setting bringing money, a sort of will respect a man and a more that will have locked up a lot again and will be going to feed on the internet just like a man. but you're seeing chantelle here being super loving and she has a job and she's a decatur. i'm not saying well, not gonna work. that's not my point. my point is that she must still have the respect. see what she's take care or to do as a woman in a home. all right, so let's draw attention back, you know, one to gets closing remarks. normally at this point of the debate, i would be asking people for solutions. but after hearing all the diverse opinions, i'm not sure that there is such a thing as solutions. and so let's find out what your closing remarks as upon this, we'll finish with you guys. let's start here. just bought a one more punch of beauty in the room. it doesn't give a right that she and i met the i built equal the. right. so for me,

i believe we just need to go back double christian not says what bill. i'll push the foundation and then of course, the, just by being of few minutes or whatever, given different views we have pushed as west who knows. we want us to assess everything to bring to us and wish you disregard ours. and i'm again c, i m, let's sit down. men to understand are women's sure not as this are, women should not be. leaders would just sit and have a conversation. mean is that agreed are women should be equal or 50 if, if they would just sit and have a conversation and the conversation would take before it. all right, so more dialogue, i like that from the side. let's do some conclusion of the month a. we did a bridge systems that will limit we mean we need to work on the system that will put me behind. we cannot have our tradition, our costs are suppressing, we mean keeping that as a buyer, as well by lucky that we cannot move beyond this because these are you more than exist in it. so i think that these are framework conversation. we help us. okay.

and finally, we started with a couple i'd like to end with them. we've had so many view points here. do you think that the kind of relationship that the 2 of you have with some people might see us aspirational is under threats? we woke up in the morning as a man and getting ready for work. when you stand before the mirror, just see a human being. when you see your wife see a human being, she'd hurt our way. man. you are going to be happy. if you bring that woman dot equal point, you're going to be happy. the one thing most of it done is yours. we have smalley on facebook. so the thing that we have a good relationship on feasible, but beyond facebook, we are really good and we've been good for 5 years. no complaint, not to anybody, because we are just equal and we have this agreement on odd years and wish when we've been here, it depends the idea that we're pushing well, which is a better idea. we go about that. thank you. that is

a beautiful place to wrap this debates. we have had some very controversial remarks today, but also what a nice way to wrap it up. think 1st and foremost of your partner as human. think you guys for watching the, [000:00:00;00] the, the,

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