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tv   DW Interview  Deutsche Welle  May 14, 2024 9:15pm-9:31pm CEST

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headlights you're looking for, there's always are websites, dw, dot com. thank you so much for your company, the this shadows of just these pod costs and video shed light on the dog is devastating. colonial har is infected by germany across up, and he employed a score farms and destroyed lights. what is the legacy of this wide spread races, depression? today, the screen. we need to talk about here, the stories, shadows of german colonialism. can the you uphold it's environmental and social values without choking off business
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and trade? my guess bet long us as it can insure it. he's chairman of the international trade committee for the parliament. and we spoke just before the parliament voted for a new law that requires larger companies to scrutinize their supply chains for human rights or environmental violations. or begin the interview by asking longer about his own home government, germany, and how it withheld its vote for the measure. now, part of the government in berlin says that the new law is unfriendly for business. a really disappointing. com because we haven't drum and the due diligence legislation on to i guess it was a european legacy nation. is german legs. nation but improved on the far from me. it makes no sense to abscess, obsession into accounts. so, but it's linked to the situation. the coalition government in germany, so the smallest poppy also coalition as always,
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some elements where they thought they can make a point in the domestic policies, icing on the right. but it's not my job to jots about that. but listening to, to the new legislation, it's really an improvement because we are looking not to on the, on a checklist basis. so every company has to fulfill the same obligations be, are looking for over space approach. because it's really different. if you uh, importing to meet from canada on a t shirt from bangladesh. and let's look where possible with a file, a sion, of international they must and that's international environment to a conventions. all dependents government agreement happens and not have an obligation to everybody. you mentioned the coalition government, it's the, the sort of business friendly uh, freed democrats were against this. and the coalition, as you said, you know,
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i don't think that the business went to me because there's a coalition of business. people say we want it even cheap on the beach but, but, but, but don't they have a point when they say that it raises more bureaucratic hurdles at a time when most member states and businesses want fewer hurdles and better trade? is this not one more impediment for that? you know, because we have to struggle in falls and of course we have and several other member states, no, no info. so there is a competition. this of bondage in germany. businesses are also complaining about the german law, of course. and secondly, this german law has to be improved behalf this checklist approach. 43 question for everybody. and then some additional question. not it was based approach. and yes, we'll see repeating on some little cryptic version, but use so the reporting applications like so. this is of course,
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a difficult time for europe when we look at the economy, especially germany and it's struggling economy right now. the measures like the supply chain long, do they not put a burden on businesses at a time when they need fewer of those. and it's not just that law, but we spoke earlier today to the indonesian and bassett, or to germany. the u is negotiating a free trade agreements with indonesia right now, and he points to the use deforestation measures anti deforestation, i should say, which attempts to certify for his products from some countries where deforestation has been a problem. indonesia says it's too much of an impediment for them. and then it's blocking that free trade agreement, these kind of social and environmental laws that the you is pursuing. is that not an impediment right now when, when trade more than anything is necessary? so look, we are all on the whole bill looking for more sustainability and we need on
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this, i guess as a result of some that has clement agreement to reduce a c o. 2 emissions worldwide. andrea c i o conventions international standards for labor white's, and we have some environmental conventions from the united nation. so these are this upcoming goods. now looking how to age can really benefit in the, the, the implementation offices, international things. it's not your pin manuals or your pin with installation or your pin a vision of, of a society. it's a unit of also a prospect for people and the environment and which isn't not the, getting the way of that kind of changes into these. i don't have a point then you have to look how to can, how we can implement add a long discussion. was environment minister of was it? but then this is why looking on the for the station, how we can,
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when you chose the situation. what's about g o localization can be use you appear in uh, satellite pictures like how we can sort divide to products once about disability. we have some certification systems in was it? so how we can work together hand in hand in to partnership and at the end of this conversation said yes, it's really helping also my goals for the bazillion society. and perhaps we missed a little bit the, the correct communication and also was in yeah, i'm quite happy that'd be a mega sitting. no. was in the consensus trade agreement, they agreed to negotiate on every thing that's important as a difference to a 2013. we always stopped the legacy some last time. and now we have to look what's the situation of the ball and how we can implement some of the measures in such a trade agreement. i'm quite optimistic that this leads to an result. you mentioned
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brazil. so of course, one of the macros or countries with which the he was trying to finalize this trade agreement that's also been stalled in part because of concerns over climate issues . in this case, the amazon basic. no, no, no, that's not true. but that is part of the hesitation to manufacture has been the process, not on the part of a level, perhaps. no, no, look. it's reading the news and that's to it. negotiations. really phase because of the sustainability pots. we have really this costs. we'll see. nicholas who countries on detail and additional protocol is taking on. busy the interest and this ready, and also it was australia, those agreements fated because of the interest of from us in the case of use. it was to be a yeah, it was a lovely and we're joined by advocacy groups pointing at the amazon base and issues that strengthens that protest against many of these agreements. is that not true? what is on the medical? so create and it's on all the domestic farm was the say i because fonts that nope
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on anyway. so see tough perhaps, but macro so never. and we have also some similar discussion and some of them in the state. so we have to really focus on the, the, the coaching sect on both sides. that's for sure how to improve the living conditions. we move on to the us is europe ready for new trade tensions in the coming year? so nobody is hoping that trump will become present. and again, of course, via filled up a tool box full of defensive measures, likes the under russian is some and which was developed to because of the drums and p a message if we would establish digital techs in your view what, what to tell us on the opening costs on says,
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you want to use trade and investment as a political investment, and therefore we have no new instruments to be ready to defend our nomic interest. so we have a tool box ready, and we are also not afraid to go to w to our end to us. certainly, of course we are trying to calm down, but the situation we have a trade in technology calling soon to establish some i'm working with notions and so on. but there's largely been disappointment that an agreement wasn't hashed out with steel. for example, hasn't that been something of a failure? you know? yeah. but you have to recognize that the suitcases in united states has changed. they really focus not on domestic issues and they are not so much dependent on i'm an expert, as you opinion is. so that's a fact that's we have to like it's not as much accept but to nice. and i'm quite sure that they, but it's not sticks to the rules of
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w 2 in all cases. so on to that for, we have to use our own defense instruments and there was an this united states as the biggest rating. is it likely the traits engines are like, are going to rise even if president biden is re elected, given that europe is sending more of its exports, especially germany to the us, which has a strong economy. we talked about china is their concerns, but it has over capacity. um, is this really just a trump thing, or is it possible that with consumption being so low here on the continent being so low in china that the us, regardless of who's leading is going to look and say, this isn't in our favor. if so much trade is coming from these countries, and i'm not sure that this is true about as the actual policy is in going into sort of action. this is a really and change of divided by 2. yeah, it's really an openness of the us economy of the god on the w t o was founded
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on somebody us. and now it's going back to the state, the economy, and really a, to a protective measures in this inflation reduction act was created by the democrats and buying of cause. and having this huge range of local content, which leads to the investment of new of an investment in the united states. that's not really for. yeah. and also not to not have a subject 2 loads, but this is a policy of draws. biden is more that's a positive and we can really agree also on spent some send us and some future orientation issues like drugs and risk management of that spot. there is a new direction of economic policy in the united states. that's for sure. we have to live. oh is this, i guess some the rest of us possibly room for corporation, and some of those not trust we have different interests globally. sends united
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states. do you see over capacity from china as a problem? it's being reported as such in many places. what is the concern? this has long been a claim that china has put too much on the markets. what exactly is the problem? the problem is, if this of a couple, a city is fine, on spite leave the subsidies on is on the campus, is put on the market to be no production costs. so subsidies are done pick and then we have all the instruments and we're using that. so on to about 80 percent of our on to subsidies on the done cases are directed against product coming from china. also china, steve, for example, where we have globally a big over capacity in china or look to the solar panels by the established somebody is a good but so on the subsidies tablets. but of course, china is big and heavy. the advantage of economic of scale and we have to
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deal with this is you want to have some production really in pop up climate new to the rate on that for we establish also as a c bombs to make clear that in future also the input products have to be priced on the c u 2 content, and this would be also a limit a little bit. so steve's inputs coming from china until the use of our capacity is this. um, let's say a phrase of overall capacity is a little bit complicated because you have also in your capacity and competence with us and to the us when he expects a to, to get a hold of us a. so it has to be. yeah, that's really the important issue that's the level playing field has to be counted . that's question. are you optimistic or pessimistic? when you look at the coming years and trade free trade, european trade, it's challenging. we have to deal this uh,
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fragmentation of globalization. that's for sure. on definitely we need some defensive measures and we need a whole a net of debate agreements in to partnership with see the live of the apartment. all right. how long a? thank you so much. thanks a lot. the to the new techniques for wildlife reservation channel water simple to use to unlock bio diversity. dna. how can a i to use to figure out the secret lives of animals in biochemistry? explain why some creatures low in the dark blue. these new research methods revolutionize our way of thinking tomorrow today. next on d, w gets ready for an exciting d, auburn toyota to look surprised. hi, i'm shopping, and i'm ready to dive into the hands of human to you. have you have
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