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a set you up to date next on dw duff. so has an investigation and to have a lot of me, of coaching confidence, a hiding that well in switzerland. i'll be back to the top. the type of data. so much for the 1st 2 years is just as i've been in a coma close by persecution and flight. meanwhile for con dreams of another load wake up on last starts june, 1st on dw, the a good february 2022 par in ukraine. more has returned to european soil.
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the reaction is less than 24 hours after the invasion. sanctions are imposed on russia. bucket based on fitness, combat o c. on the whole, against announcing new sanctions today, a get some of rushes will be as business viewings who can say for the honda does, she did a hold on that. that gets sunk. so now the world is targeting the billionaires extravagant the ox. an unprecedented level of sanctions are leveled at economic heavy weight. russia is the aggressor to chose this war and now he is comfortable for the consequences on 14 easy. so please don't the gas i want to levels, we will see the size of it. what i see dark, so when
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a beach and nibble was sold, name was really was for dollars on the face. one by one billionaires close to pollutant are being tracked down their yachts and jets confiscated and their money frozen. but for the plan to work, the money must be completely frozen the slightest crack at it could all collapse the do you want to be the country? this is been that can be used to circumvent those. those sanctions is switzerland. this crack. this loophole is the alpine nation doing enough to freeze russian assets. criticism has been growing louder since the start of the war, let's say functional. it's only when they adopted the sanctions. they took it easy into the minimum just enough to avoid criticism to liberalize capitals live always been black sheep and dishonest people who have forged papers or issued fall certificates or these are isolated cases in hills. southwest,
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they got sorted by the sanctions really being ignored in switzerland or, or the proxies. agents pulse we investigated and thanks to an unprecedented data leak were able to find out more about the billions managed on behalf of russians in switzerland. the beginning, the sanctions meant seizures, yachts squares of millions were stranded in harbours. but could this end the war, the lawyer and the asset manager, d g bumpkin says the measures up shortly symbolic the new york type easy pacific fault. the yacht is something very often patient is dollars such a huge environmental. the destructive machine captures people's imagination,
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co neck office gift back to everyone. things great. we've confiscated a boat to buy, but it's the start of a nightmare taught them to keep a ship in port with the crew of 30 that must be maintained by the state that sees that thought process. that's called critical people have to make a difference. you have to target the assets, the finance behind the war. but freezing russian billions is much more complicated than confiscating a few yachts. the only gods love affair with switzerland is well known and it didn't start yesterday. 2 examples. victor victor, that with estimated assets of $7000000000.00 us dollars, he's one of the main shareholders of the early con group and it has avoided sanctions. the 2nd is getting audi tim jenco, who was co founder of the guns or oil company. his villa unlike geneva, was confiscated by the swiss before the sentence,
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switzerland had been very attractive to russians. you might see the image of switzerland, citrix. everything is popular. oh, exceptional. on every level. a very beautiful country. hospitable especially to those who have money, stability and neutrality, what more could be a wish for? it says that the ussr collapse, switzerland was an excellent place to open accounts for the oligarchy. under steve, this is very quickly up and quickly began to use switzerland as a hub for their business with us for the especially financial business photos. i fell in the beginning, they were happily welcom. do you know the laws were different to the banks for less? we know if you on the trusted the switch, so the bulk of the more of a gun don't. and if they wanted to call piece of video, westerners could p very so that's why they wanted to buy beautiful villas. airplanes y'all is an art collection visual to emulate western millionaires community. the hooks onto the tim chico family has been in geneva since the early 2
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thousands, a stroke of luck for this with the united teacher kennedy to change who is a son of a member of the army. he has a villa in columbia. you come to a very exclusive community in the canton of geneva. your identity is also generous of a neva foundation to be the, the classical music festivals. and that'd be the ground t at the dish in a, in a box. and baltimore foundation block that isn't that they also support the hockey club is also fed. you'll see excel, these are the ones on chain cool families, main activities in geneva into enclosure that what that all ended with the start of the war. 92 and go has left switzerland and his accounts have been frozen as have those of about a 100 other all the guards, not all of them are close prudence, but on february 24th, the day of the russian invasion, their fate changed. you have a clue. what about 3 dozen people had gathered in the kremlin?
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we will let them you're pretending basically told them what he had said on television a few hours earlier because the old problem, they were speech was very surprising level. certainly not pleasantly. you still cannot found people use it because they were completely dumbfounded to somewhere shocked. a when vladimir putin called the meeting on the 24th. explain your new full well, but they would all be affected by western sanctions. these a body song spoke to them, looking back, we cannot say that put in gave them a poisoned gift phelps who took a long pause over the months. the list of sanctions has grown longer and longer. who ends up on it and why? that's not decided in switzerland, but in brussels. we meet belgian defenders. once the u commissioner for justice and the rule of law, he had been pursuing russian assets since the beginning of the war with one goal.
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so most of all the topics i so it will give you, we want to stop the financing of the war. we must, not only to very quickly but also ship very hard. i think since, you know, for like you have to get those who are directly involved and financing the war, that's the, all the gardeners and the whole range of entities. but above all, the russian economy of the russian military centers and looks at these sanctions are not the only ones i am concerned with. and the freezing of all the guards and organizations asset us by 6 though i mean, but also sanctions targeting specific sectors associated with export import bank, the russian product. see the pushy look of the folks involved in it could be aimed to hit the economy and the activities of the russian military industry at its hearts. the goal is to exert pressure to end the war in the shop. i struggle for it, i guess i'd the for neutral switzerland. it wasn't easy to accept the sanctions imposed by brussels. according to d,
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j. a rind us for days of uncertainty and secret negotiations were needed to prevent switzerland from becoming the weak link in europe. as soon as the lo locate is completely normal for an independent state, not just simply copy your opinion. the sanction that he's the biggest risk of that the implementation would be severely delayed. that's what fortunately, that didn't happen. you know, and despite everything switzerland impose the sanctions quickly. also you thought to concede that the 2nd challenge was to prevent many players such as lawyers, notaries, and banks. so from helping circumvent sanction is all by having a legal text to a nice piece of paper is not enough. this, if you, but you have to make sure the paper is effective. you fulfill soccer said the kid is this the, the criticism is diplomatic, but reasonable sanctions have been circumvented. since the outbreak of the war,
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the february 2022, a swiss asset manager was stopped before he could fly off in a private jet with 500000 bureaus in cash for a russian client. in april 2023, a swish company imported $44000000.00 of russian gold by a due by a loophole in the sentence. the are these isolated cases. we took a closer look with the help of 2 colleagues more familiar with the financial world . the we started with the data link spotted on the dot net. in february 2023. russian hackers was thousands of highly sensitive e mails and bank documents online. this data didn't originate in a bank,
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but rather a company that manages billions and it's based in the heart of the it's name fina part, the official sponsor of the open tennis tournament. the to see all these chances without the limits of what is a mix of both traditional, suspend the firm technology. i see it as an instrument to open that door to manufacture solutions for the customer. we have access to markets, both private and public. very few companies in this world. what has it also offers its services directly in russia. we bought a suggestive, what come on by to who needs
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a shift the better rate that there's any way russian clients and a company that works with all the major banks and switzerland. this data is very interesting, but the flood of information is too much for us. we travel to germany to me, to experts on data leaks, the journalists credit like well by maya and bustin over my work in munich. and wrote a too with surprised winning book on the panama papers. the a dozen employees will help them analyze the mountain of fina port data over the coming months. they will be assisted by journalists from france, germany, and switzerland. we haven't had enough to not talk before and that's actually what makes it so interesting for us because it seems like you know, part as
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a much smaller company. then the many well known companies and 4 feet apart. it seems like they are a little bit like flying another radar and not under as much watts as the big place in switzerland. so it seems like they might be dealing with customers that the big guys, the big task do not want to touch anymore because they are under too much surveillance . the leak is $1.00, a terabyte of data is a lot of males and then documents and banking data. so even if the heck a cool is a really bad and aggressive and it looks like that's right. and still, if there's information that the public needs to know you're going to publish the 1st step, matching the names of sentient individuals with fina points,
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client list. but no matches are found. the rules are being followed. no assets from all the guards subject to sentients are managed by direct based company. but we do discover russian money directly linked to the financing of the war. the data includes family members of one man, alexander, point them a rank of 10. a state own company called must photo cannot, which specializes in wastewater treatment. this senior official is a close friend of the deputy mayor of moscow. people close to him had been awarded numerous lucrative public contracts worth more than 150000000 years. the value of the contracts are way too high. and this could explain why the family is so wealthy . the daughter and other girlfriends them both have the largest accounts that is not part of the research team in munich on or
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just how that point them a rank or finally was able to sneak their money now managed by senior port back to europe. it's complicated, but more than 46000000 was in the family switched accounts at the end of 2022 no sanctions were imposed on corner rankles daughter and mistress. but the origin of the money raises questions the that some of the read sign right? you have millions of yes, dollars, and you have someone working estate company, the money and leaving russia. and that guy, dark thing is they don't company and he filled out his before pockets. they didn't see the problem or they design it to test drugs.
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the other way, the problem is that alexander point or rank goes company is not only active in the waste water sector. must photo cannot, is also active and occupied ukrainian territories. we found the company offering its employees financial incentives to fight in ukraine on v contact a social media network. hundreds of men and equipment had been sent to the front. according to this video, published by the company, the fina point declined. our requests for interviews. we were told in writing that new discoveries often lead to investigations against its customers, but there are more surprises. back in switzerland, our team of journalists discovered an e mail sent just a week after the attack on ukraine to russian customers wanted to store 40 gold bars worth a total of $5600000.00 in a safe deposit box at san for servicing banking zurich. feet of ports managers
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considered this transaction to be clumsy and alerted the authorities. the, the customer could be accused of attempting to circumvent sentence. they wrote, nevertheless, feed a port improves the transaction and the bars were transferred. when asked the bank said the customers have your opinion, residents permits and are not subject to sanctions. we cannot refuse this type of transaction. as the goal belongs to 3rd parties, the we are bound by confidentiality and a breach would have criminal consequences. the no current or former customers are expected by the sanctions is switzerland helping track down russian billions. for scott miller, the american ambassador inbound, the answer is clearly no. he's
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a former banker and was the 1st to denounce switzerland's, lax attitude. years ago, i imagine that we'd probably have a lot of work to do together to continue to identify the trusts and companies and other entities that have been established to hide the beneficial ownership. interest of some of these assets. words are followed by date. april 2023. a sharp letter signed by all g 7. investors and the european union was sent to the federal council. a diplomatic slap in the face. we also have concerns that law enforcement officials are blocked from investigating a listed financial structures produced by attorneys serving us financial intermediaries. we call on the switch government to take further steps. we share a concern that these loopholes could harm switzerland's reputation.
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for the state secretary on for economic affairs, then announce the opening of 30 criminal proceedings for possible circumvention of sanctions in switzerland for its director helen would lead a toyota, a former ambassador. the accusations were on justified le for them. and they took the form wasn't the best. we had to read in the newspapers that we would receive a diplomatic letter. we found it difficult to understand lunar golf hold on. we are given certain explanations and told that switzerland must do better. don't come. you said people forget that we are dealing with individuals who have enormous resources at their disposal in normal, diverse too. or they all turned over go this through just as we check a private jet that could possibly lead the links to a person on the sanctions list also. so we are immediately contacted by
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a law firm who goes on and on about why this is not the case. a beautiful double go, a keep with that, the jet belongs to company x, y much go so and not to mr. or mrs. why is it bom? assume all did really is almost detected work thoughts of him or still drop by a customer through the default or witnesses here. the pressure increased in july 2023 when the us senate committee took up the issue. the focus of the hearing, switzerland, alleged failings, security. we have seen the russian economy surviving better than we thought it would in part of that has been, i'm wondering, of dirty money in switzerland. global conflict between the testimony is built around or got the ball rolling. router, a british national, used to invest in russia, but is now an activist the switzer allowing the russians to have access to the
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money to kill ukrainians. and we should do something to shut that down. and if the swiss aren't willing to do it voluntarily, then we should put pressure on them. they weren't going to give the nazi gold backs to the jewish people until congress got involved in congress has power here and a swiss respect. and sometimes when people don't behave themselves, we need to give them an incentive to behave themselves. and that's why i think we're all here. and that's where you can play with all of these accusations justified. let's look at the figures. switzerland has frozen about 7500000000 francs and 17 villas. not bad compared to the 9000000000 frozen by the usa and the 24000000000 frozen body you. however, given the total amount of russian assets deposited in switzerland, which is estimated at $150000000000.00, the caesars are laughable. this figure is what
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a spark controversy and attractive the higher of the americans. where did the estimate come from? and one was more russian money frozen. to understand you have to go to zurich. the we met with the swiss bankers association, an umbrella organization representing more than 260 member backs. the association was the 1st to calculate the value of russian deposits. he met swanson filed so i'll take in march 2022 with the state secretary at for economic affairs of seco gentleman had not yet collected any data from these. and one that we made an estimate of the, our estimate of 150000000000 was based on all across the border assets of russian clients that are booked with swift bank. i'm comfortable with the team, the size doesn't. all of these are all russian clients with a russian passport for other nationalities, food or like another passport, or several passports, like regardless of whether they live in switzerland or russia on the slide. so that
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was land phone and the fact going good can set go on the other hand, use different data. the thought seemed news, it only includes the russian citizens with the corresponding russian who has poured and does not include corresponding assets and the cost of the account. it contains books, we included this and estimate, it's $150000000000.00. so for these and that seems to be the, that's the big difference in that. so we'll get a bus that goes to a simple difference in calculation. but when it comes to freezing assets, the organization said it's hard to do more the, the balkan out, the, the song so with the banks are strictly complying with the sanctions and will continue to do so. i think the sanctions aren't over yet and are largely being continued right. okay. and what if you don't find the corresponding sanctions that banks have been implemented accordingly and implement the liberal kick? you almost show that associated with the bankers who quoted this figure calculated
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all the russian assets to curse the folder to me then upward, you have to bear in mind that not all russians are criminals, and visual and not old russians are on the list. so the actual stories is honest, people also have money in switzerland, the store, and that might be where the misunderstanding comes from. it went off with type of foster. people have talked about some of 100000000000. it'd be 150000000000 people fits next. even if we do excellent work, we will never reach those numbers. he said, hey, you know, this will ensure some are disappointed and think that we haven't done our job for know to come by itself. but i also find that a little frustrated with the call that the of the frustrating but for some, just the tip of the iceberg switched politician by piece tony knows the situation. well. he's a lawyer and member of the legal affairs committee and is angered by the lack of controls just about to please or i am not at all saying that the people who work
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are the state secretary and for economic affairs are incompetent to sit. buttons does not fit, they do their job very well. but the secretary, it lacks a whole range of skills that are not part of their jobs. depends on the neighboring countries in the usa have now set a task forces and some spit to bring together staff from similar authorities. it's it that i from private banks or people who specialize in commodities trading and so on. a demo with all that concentrated expertise and you'll see that you can uncover the complex structures that make it possible to circumvent sanctions. switching them, let me continue. it's about stopping the flow of money to rush at the finance, the war to come and get. so i think we could show a bit more goodwill. definitely that depends on the lack of will or lack of control . one thing is certain to end the war and rebuild ukraine. the united states and europe are searching for every last 1000000000 from russia. the list of sentients
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could be kind of even longer. switzerland is under pressure because for years it has had a reputation for forwarding illegal money from russia. in 2000 banks that they were putting the pass behind them, no more scandals. but as our research continued an entirely different picture enlarged, the 2 scene a port customers caught our attention the 1st heavy weight in russian politics. lou need run on a former minister of telecommunications and advise you to the president from 2008 to 2010. in this photo, you can see him from the hind standing opposite the former german chancellor. he was just then becoming a client of fina pours, and over 30000000 euros ended up in historic accounts. but in 2006, as the records found rhyme, i'm guilty of money laundering and personal enrichment under contract. you know,
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when you're talking about someone who's being part of the russians, they have to proceed for years. this was very inclusive letting me pretend because i was involved in a number of scandals reported in the media to set the homepage, the loss of the affection. and remember to ask an actual authority to know something that nobody knew this just motion with it in this case. but it didn't have to look far to understand that this is a highly problematic person that along most of us, it didn't, doesn't exist to do it. yeah, i think to know what date do you actually treat this client's like a normal client from the initial to room, even though all the information points to the opposite, unsecure, equal to the former russian minister was a client athena port until at least the end of 2021. the company denies any wrong doing. and said it investigates its clients backgrounds and the origin of the assets manages. the 2nd, problematic client is a multi millionaire who was convicted of fraud and russia in 2019 for investing
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assets from an insurance company. he's on the international list of wanted persons, but this russian still managed to open several accounts in switzerland under 2 different names and identities. the crew cab jayce of it is particularly interesting best because he's wanted by the judiciary in russia . and several lawsuits have already been brought against them. so fraud for fold, particularly in the insurance sector, was to stop say the amounts involved. they're also striking to say press good on something new. keeping with such a total of almost $45.00 millions load into the account, as i have seen, a port to the portal which raises the question of whether fina port should have warned us with authorities all was the toys too serious. we show these cases to a former employee of track, seen the french financial intelligence unit for security reasons. he asked to be
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made unrecognizable, but his reaction is very clear. for the it's not a legal to have 2 passports, but 2 passports with 2 names is that raises questions from a normally diligent expert should not have let that pass. you know, you can't treat this as a situation for standard procedure, especially since we're not talking about amounts of a few 1000 euros here. you have to be extremely careful. you need just give them money to the you both shook based on these documents. so i think that in each of these cases, the authorities should have been alerted. your clients should have been asked much more detailed questions about the origin of the funds. and they should not have been satisfied with verbal explanations from the clients, but demanded supporting documents. yes, even an asset manager should have become suspicious. based on the documents you provided, none of the russian customers we came across during our research. wanted to comment
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in an email from the port told us it is the customers decision under which legal name they wish to open their bank accounts, and claim to have no knowledge of cases in which customers have declared different nationalities to bank. sports ortiz, the company added that the person in question is no longer a client, and that fina port cannot open a bank account and only provides financial advice. but the company's rule went far beyond that. march 2022. shortly after the start of the sanctions. senior ports this email to a russian customer with options for obtaining a residence, permit, or passport at short notice. the estimated cost from 7000 swiss francs were hungry to 150000 for the caribbean island of grenada. in plain language, the cost to circumvent sect was of to so loose that initiative. the sanctions do
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not apply. if a russian citizen is resident in switzerland, no commission or has another european citizenship and everybody so shows that people so demo. and this is one way of circumventing sanctions. i want to be managed to ensure that no more passports have been issued since the outbreak of the warranty supplies decided, rather than malta. also decided to stop all procedures for russian and bella, russian citizens. but that's not enough, essentially, she thought we have to ask ourselves whether what was done in the past as a problem. you the limits whether it is appropriate to question the passports that were issued in the past. and then we can also look at other groups. there are many people with dual citizenship and measures may also need to be taken there. on this point, feet of port explained. it is not uncommon for clients to be interested in relocating to other countries. fina port then prefers them to specialized companies or provides them with appropriate advice. the what is this
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common behavior for asset managers? we looked for answers here to the profession has its major annual meeting just outside of down at the interlocking congress center, 300 asset and trust managers match the event included discussions about new regulations, jobs, big money with experts from over switzerland. we were not allowed inside with our cameras. with one of the organizers, a trust administrator from geneva was willing to answer our questions. the most of how did you work with the russian families, but it definitely did not give you the more v she you had to clarify, simple thing, it was difficult. residents, permanency, and citizenship. they fix it to work, meet with other professionals, such as banking and reverse, publish lawyer losing the warranty on the asset manager. all these understand what
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leeway there will also, especially at the beginning with ask them to do it by fast a pre then what did exactly she test on. so could it be that if you could, this difficulty of course was go, is keeping up to date. and anyway, i'm complying with constantly changing real suspended behaviors. piece of solstice phone don't it's not easy to find out more than 11. i agreed to talk openly with us about another side of her profession to see if we a doesn't manage bank accounts. she manages villas, john. the private jets are collections and she knows all the ins and outs. i guess i did keep the award again. there were many questions. lucas 2, what do we do now? is to google fake cases? because what happens after a bunch of trouble that there was actually a bit of panic? a you, at the task was to interpret newly imposed regulations. going was that we,
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you know, about the list because, you know, you have to be careful of source. the, but our job is always to find solutions go to the took of today is before. yesterday it was coded the day before yesterday it was the americans. yes. and we don't know what tomorrow will bring it to now, but we always have to try to find solutions to reduce and stick to the rules. oh, has clicked on it above all, we've looked for people who confirm that the solution is a good one. good. but that's not always easy, it's maternity to see. we use client's head residences and monica, and often had several passports. some financial advisors will always have good ideas for adapting and slipping through the cracks of sanctions. the us treasury department has begun sanctioning switched financial expert to find solutions to hide money. the
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brussels is also thinking about cracking down the can get a key. someone who's circumvents or attempts to circumvent sanctions is committing a crime. their assets can no longer just be frozen, they can be confiscated, that is very important to see. the property can become state property and the money can be directed to ukraine and thought, all that we try to take this approach not only in relation to russian, oligarchs, or russian organizations. but also try to involve legal and tax advisors, lawyers, notaries and banks. if they are involved in strategies to circumvent sanctions, specific and this can be proven, it can lead to criminal conviction, some complications. so please give so and we call on the switch confederation to move in the same direction so, so, and ensure that it not only looks at whether there are people who are subjects to sanctions i, those assets can be blocked. but also whether there are attempts to circumvent and sanctions equal to the voltage. in plain language, switzerland should roll up his sleeves and better control the activities of all
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those who may be worked with to keep rushing money out of reach. still, sanctions against all the guards and their entourage have not been met with unanimous approval. one man is fighting against what he calls the absurdity of sanctions. um beyond as a lawyer in geneva, he rarely speaks to the media, the police on charles city, jets, sage, and you suggest you tested our sanctions stand for, for things in particular, the boat and efficiency and justice illegality as well and any se, the song so personally they are in effect hold on, i remind you that there have been sanctions against cuba for 60 years. sanctions against iran for 30 years, and the sanctions against north korea for 20 years. or there's been is waylon baller roost. i'll see there were sanctions everywhere, key at the for this is obviously not leading to the desired regime change something or, or the and secondly, these sanctions are unjust. who is affected? wow. it is the population that get people to 95 percent of whom have nothing to do
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with the outbreak of war and ukraine or in other countries. fortunately, the sanctions come back to us in the form of inflation and it can in the form of electricity prices that affect the low income households, lyric antibiotic, because they come back to affect us who grew, he defends the richest people in russia. those are referred to as all the guards a term he finds problematic. the problem. i have a problem with the guard, the best candidate, because it is not legally defined. for me that is my problem, but it's not that i don't like the term. it's that i don't understand what it means, legally is only again, if you don't have a definition, you can, you can't effectively defend yourself and you can't make an argument because you don't know what you're mean. most of what are they actually accusing you of having unfortunately pushed closeness to power? what are you being accused of and how is that defined, or this is the only way to break the sentence is to go to court in the us. this is mission impossible, but in switzerland and europe,
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he went to battle for one of his clients based in the canton of geneva. his villa wasn't extremely luxurious, but his client had to leave in a hurry after being sanctioned. what else just in some cases is essential, a switch. sanction. here you have a citizen who is defined as a russian citizen. except the problem is that he has swift citizenship, but that was not status or anything. so he has dual citizenship of switzerland and rush. i so i did see was brought up in switzerland. he went to school in switzerland. he pays his taxes in switzerland, c, a swiss example. so that is the 1st point. coxa is their 2nd class citizenship in switzerland and that 22 threes a defeat. this is the 2nd point and then what will he be officially notified? a few says mall said to me, so socrates, he informed of the imposition of sanctions and an official letter you wanted well, no, not at all. you simply put his name on the internet about and how does he find out?
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he finds out from his banks, which is blocked his account, stress free finds out from the press and his reputation is severely damaged. x from one day to the next to you can no longer pay your bills. you can no longer pay your childrens tuition on the phone. you can no longer use your credit card or then we don't even have a swiss. com subscription anymore together, but it's social dance and there's nothing you can do. the 3rd point is that it is written in english. that song is english and official language. the national languages are german, french, italian, and romano small but not english. you know, hold on. yeah. but i don't play it. so what, what is your client actually accused of? especially if we do, oh, i'll tell you that if he's the son of and is yeah, it's an english say, oh wait, he lived on my father's son to. that's only, that's ridiculous. most issued fees and will pay homage society to the client's father has been personally honored by vladimir putin, the father of the best and will talk to me. this is what i
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say that the father must be a criminal. he must be a war criminal, chopin. but now what is the father accused of said the baking pipelines and selling them to gas problem and ross now the pipeline a there leave all i guess pull. that's like a choosing a locomotive manufacturer of selling his locomotives to s b b when people see it that's of services. he's not the one who decided to when a new brand new type of fi, really. so therefore, the sanction against this with citizen is no and voice. the sanction is invalid age and you then you have to have the courage to admit that it is. so if i look wise, when i make the switch to dish and we will have the final decision, but the chances of success horsemen and these as plus have to assume that we have international bodies that discuss each name and explain why we put that same on the lips expect to these all keys. in fact, you don't only have people who are directly linked to the pollutant regina, who, the but it's always people whose companies, so parents or investment funds are financing the regime in one way or another.
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didn't money, it would, you know, she knows that you know. okay. and then you will probably find one or $21.00 just leave listed people on the whole list and it's a crisis that is an emergency situation c, b, c plus. but in 99.9 percent of the cases. no, no. it's not people who know who to me personally or somebody and go for a glass of vodka with him. obviously. why the, with god, basically, it's the owners of russian assets that are invested in the war in ukraine. thieves get, get you guys this to not get on the allow, beyond is not in favor of war, but he is convinced and sanctions destroying our rule of law. until the question of whether his clients can be removed from the sentence list has been clarified. he has to ask permission from the state secretary out for economic affairs for every payment from the frozen accounts of which ties of the administration's resources and prevented from carrying out investigations. what a cape uh,
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would you say my team had to answer 20000 inquiries in the form of e mails and phone calls dated often on deadline to hold onto your company's asking whether this or that deal with possible profess that offer was an exceptional situation. so sit down for nukes all, but now unfortunately, we are already in the 2nd year of this terrible war and met no. ok. now we've also certainly have the strength and more resources in time to, to carry out the investigations the door. a lot of us to go through the state secretary out is flipping a checks with additional stuff. the number of the visions uncovered in switzerland could increase in the future. a reminder, for now, we have yet to be informed of any proceedings against defeat of port the
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