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it's, it's also great. the italians in january of this year mocking the mother of 3 fascist activists in rome in 1978, almost 18 years after the defeated the rice that can be few single gestures, send about design to send such a shilling warning. and you see pictures like that you what goes to your mind? we are reminded so on the doctor's dollars of this continent when fascists
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were in power and set the world on fire. and i think every body who is in a democratic responsibility should be aware that there is this tendency, this political direction and this threat. and we should ally and try to fight this the last november, a secret meeting involving fall right activist, neo nazi sympathizers and seeing if it goes from germany's right wing at the party took place at the hotel and puts them outside. but in that mission to discuss the mass people taishan of migrants, asylum seekers, naturalized german citizens,
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judge to have a simulated poorly to life in the new country. the organizes dispute talk, characterization of the event and the information we're reporting about it. what they didn't know at the time was it the german investigative group. corrective was also at the meeting watching and listening principal guest speaker, the notorious austria in white supremacist mountains zone, invited to provide the group with the ideological test and the means of imposing it . i won't make life on the lesson for those people who wanna implement as a country, those people who want to exploit or social systems. because at the moment, germany is like an open invitation for everybody wants to exploit us to those who attended the meeting had been invited as patriots and were expected to contribute financially to the course. the group was in points moved the was really
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a moment off. we're just getting the po, it's just a matter of time. we're almost there and there's a carrot in front of our nose. all we have to do now is not the, the host of the meeting was calling. it's very outspoken the, the meeting for the master plan, he called at the master plan, and he invited people from the if t v and invited people with money. and i think this meeting all of this, like in the nucleus came together. i don't have the politics and money and this was special about this meeting because markings in a. i was, you know, it was really invited in the special ways. so into the invitation. they called him, we have the honor, that's this man. 10, talk about the master plan. so in
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a way it was a special and show the reports on the meeting it many like a messiah o. b, a. if these poll ratings permit to, as hundreds of thousands protested across the country incense, but such a topic was discussed by mainstream politicians. mixing with known extreme is and what's more close to a location stumped forever in germany's post will conscience hardly a co incidence. was it this meeting took place, been 8 kilometers from funds a where the extermination of millions of jews was profit and agreed by hitler's nazi cheese. what are you going to tell me that that sold never, never crossed your mind. i think that is despicable of the mainstream media to even compare it is, you know, it's completely not comparable and it can tell you why it is meeting with the place to, to cause parenting. and i'm just not saying i can tell you why. just making complaints
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positive booked no from all thoughts at all. yeah, because i'm not focused on the past all the time of looking at all the special meetings of places. i focus in the future and oldest immigrations. you mentioned on these people, folks in the past or 6 months have gone by since the parts that meeting but the best has been settled and for some, at least the warning lights are still flashing, red. suppose indicate that the far right will make significant gains in next months european elections. if that happens, what, what do you do with all that new power? is there a ground plan? how safe is democracy going to be across the european union? the key questions that we set out to investigate 1st stopped in brussels, where the advance of the right wing has set nerves jangling among seen the politicians not helped by a space of scandals involving spying and influence peddling among members of the
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european parliament. the helpful additions, how do not hesitate to get the data from our enemies? so it is the combination of external pressures and internal willingness to cooperate with those who have the whole stylus, hostile plans for the, for the and there are many other factors which are threatening democracy. for instance, the deluxe of understandable communication. visible just because saw the people are calling for health that it is a lot of uncertainty to the uncertainty. there's only increased along with mounting numbers, a string to tax on german politicians. the frequency of these instagram says doubled since 2019 to evidence for germany. target number one and you're for extreme is back
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on may the 7th, yvonne most of the local 3 is candidates in just the front of self campaigning in the wrong place at the wrong time. that's where the far right to tell them to the with the time is perhaps the biggest recent threat to germany is now being assessed in the court inch to got it all $27.00 germans will be tried charge with attempting to overt strode a german government. the quote president called it the most serious national security trial. since the 2nd world war, prosecutors said the accused stockpiled weapons and were prepared to kill, to achieve the aides. senior german politicians say they will trump the god against
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you. think efforts are underway to repeat this attempted qu, they could be of an attempt to cuz well, you know, i'm not allowed to talk about a concrete things. but i would strongly suggest to listen to the presence of the intelligence agencies in germany. and they are very clear that there are people still acting and trying to do stuff like that's how crucial of coming europeans elections to democracy in europe. i have to tell you that this election, so we'll have a decisive follow for the future years. and the way the life defend make business in europe. and so the selections are very crucial and this elections are necessary to protect. i think that if i not only the far right,
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but the political bowers, including the new members of the following month, will destroy the unity off the european union. then you will weaken, we have, we have to be strong now because we have a lot of new challenges and, and, and the nice outside of the role for which have influence inside the . ready how can people trust the elections? they don't know whether they've voting for a russian puppet or somebody who's genuine. i think everybody who has a little bit of an understanding about politics knows where they put the puppets are. if you're listening to the pre election, the hype, you could be forgiven from thinking the far right. there's about the story, the citadel of european democracy,
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demising to be less inside. but you'd be wrong. it's already on those gates and its power and influence have expanded rapidly across the continent. you'd have autographs and you have fall right, governments and fall right. parties that uh, well established in your now does that frighten you? it does because i see a lot of lying in the campaigns and in the promises. so what's frightening me as is that we didn't do enough to or for the people of the alternative from the far right? no such, i'm big. do it on the trip to vienna, to see the white supremacist mountains on the islands, plenty of bodies of the playbook, and that of, of the far right move with deaf um, intention to exhibit a high level of pressure on, in the goods either to adapt to life in europe. what is this high level of
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pressure? what is any kind of pressure, economic pressure, financial prey, harris is not at all, not at all threats confiscations, but no communications that's, that's, you made all this up. what did i do? i got to ask them to do them every right and i ride on every right, that's the beach and they have the same overlays, you basically have their positives of culture because what i'm saying is, for people who i, you legally will have a passport. you have to assist have a system of high pressure and also then voluntarily to go to the whole countries. if the prefer the listing uh is like, pallet society, you might as well just go to and is it mixed, or what are you able to deliver upon from dreams of division discrimination, causing fine restaurant causing most destroyed multiculturalism? what, what, what do you deliver? that's pretty destructive program, isn't it? a pro comes a positive one. we want to safe and peace of identity of the same time, respect. and we are
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a nation culture. the thousands of this lovely countries respect the okay. oh go no, i respect the blue world. if the world but i want to save my own country it's, it's just foreigners go home, not at all. and that sounds good enough, eldest blessing and joe people, if you want to help go there and help them there and stop importing them to europe and becoming a pull factor in the met. that's what i say. and i think on message is not very cultural, it's very serious. and that's why, at the moment the ac is the most popular party among the tests that claim the a these lead candidates in the european elections dropped into a small bavarian town just a month before the vote. maximillian pro max to his promoters was there to greet the faithful. the image is crucial. the fancy sports, god driven name out tunes in the game in case the cameras missed the 1st time
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around. the model was for decoration and the little white cost of funds to assist the anti immigrants message. it didn't look like capacity, the german security services and classified potentially extreme. but it is just 2 days off with a gentleman who confirmed that classification. and the a, if he can continue to be watch bug. i'm followed by the state across the street for the event account, a demonstration, and the reminded but quite apart from his party. mad max himself does have problems . big ones, your office is just being rated after your chinese, the system was arrested last month on the charge and these acted as an agent for china. the news report said that and it said several people watching to see whether you received funding from china to do. do you know about that? no, that's not true. i mean, the 1st thing is, look,
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the gym and domestic intelligence said that they super. why is my former assistant for 4 years? obviously, he was suspicious, but i was the want. and now those who knew every saying, play me, tell you play, you're paying the victims, you know, i the title victim, obviously i am. but this is not the political question, this is what i always say. the government reads germany at the to the government wants us to look for spies. but we don't. we notice this be an option, so it's a difficult thing. but the election is about politics. it's not about spines. your role, so i believe under investigation by the public prosecutor has done no, no, no, answer the question about the subject kayla address then from russia in china, the public prosecute to address them is now reading news. and is considering whether the news reports are enough to prosecute me or to investigate me. so they
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call it a pre investigation. it is just taking good on me because those people don't want to talk about politics. no payments came your way. nothing from the pro sco voice of your reply declared the payment. but once again, if you repeat payment payment payments, spear nice to be on the spin us, that's the way to a white is serious political debates. but a serious political debate was brewing only it wasn't the one crowd. 12, had talked about scandalous and uh, misinformation by the intelligence agencies you're pulling out with marine depends the rest of them on national now in front. so you're not so exciting to some of your closest political lies anymore. your look, 1st of all, we work together with our colleagues in new york in parliament. so they are very happy with cross spoke to 2 days later the a f. these allies in the european parliament, the far right identity and democracy,
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groups through the mouth, crowd was banned by his party from any further campaigning. he remains though their lead candidates, and he'll find out soon enough. what the votes is, make of the a, f d's, pre election payoffs is valid. and the question to the chair of the book does tags intelligence committee can you for see any circumstances under which a fall, right? government could come to power here in germany. no. as soon as the arrived now i see no way of people never saw the se would poll that 20 to 25 percent. did that. yeah. well yeah, i mean you comp for see any of the code for the i know i usually go for some gym and that's true, but you asked me for a profile for profiles, ease and, and i don't see that,
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but that doesn't change that we have to take this very, very serious, right? when the extra miss would be voted into power and then they show that they can solve the problem is we, we will and then they get the x changed for someone else in the next election, we would have no problem. the problem is that when writing extreme is get into power, they don't give it up again. and that's what you see everywhere. that's everywhere includes hungry with its fall, right, populace prime minister, victor, all the friends of love be uprooted in the me of russians. he doesn't want to leave the you. you said recently. he wants to come correct. in office since 2010, he submitted tom with associates from his feet. this party don't mean anything key rose in government. only now he has a serious challenge here. in the little village close to hundreds, border with ukraine, a whistle blow and form a fetus inside to his campaigning for
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a seat in the european parliament, but paid so much as long as a bishop is much larger, he wants to speak to obama from power. it's not an easy job to win support is here, the rural areas are a stronghold for all about it, but it turned out the signs on a rainy days for a little cheap and then the series muggy on those. he's bringing in crowds and telling them what they've long wanted to here. as the system is complex and the people are fed up in the quarter option, meet the pump are going to be the lies with the secret service. so it's quiet that he needs the restroom, but i still think i'm quite sure that document action means it's possible to win the fee and to feed us some of the good or bad. well, josby, it's public today about the government interference and the judicial case. and he does so was almost all ready. he was married. so the previous justice minister,
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you did vargas. and those the strengths and weaknesses of the system. the also knows what a state capture operation looks like when the populace are in charge to main problem in hungary. the national, in spite of down the, you know, in 5 years the, or bank either man spend more than 1300000000014 for prep. i've done the, we have that many is 3 of by gotten the in 2024 in europe in the union be the ones have administered the oath has mean it's still a new case and we don't have that many is 3 of the environments but we do have, i mean it's still up on the it's to be, it's funny about that. all those 3 inch icing in the, it'll be in there. i'm worried about the capture of state institutions like the police, the security say i have is the and gotta press everything is captured. yeah, this thing is, is that the by, if he does guy what x, he does guy the, the got this, all of the doors, the constitutional court, the president,
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everybody of course, the, towards the idea of use that or vice thing from 2000 and then who would every student getting everybody who was the position? so now there is no balance of power in hungry? the only on the one of the existing, the power is the feed us. this is a power factor story. the soap with power factory mean economic bar to be picked up by waterman the secret service part of the party is to be the every scene with all that, how is he really going to let himself be voted out of office? that's a question. i really hope that something the steel, the, from the democratic hero environment is that oregon and, and have you to be left that does the, over the ball or if the bill have demanded that from the on get mt for it via the add on. good. i'm not the short fight for me to have the difficult it will take more than some long time being on
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a rainy day or to push the or by machines through the exit. but how is it possible to let a single lead to take over? i didn't tie european state for so long. i could, it's happened elsewhere. there's a reason why people might turn to the right, isn't that there's widespread discontent in europe with politics and outcomes, not just migration. a report to the commission in february talked about a broad geography of discontent, of declining regions. many small cities, towns and rural areas have a sense of dispatch, not just limited to economic hardship, but also to have a feeling of being politically disenfranchised, socially alienated. you have sympathy with them. absolutely. but allow me to come back to this any additional question because look too much rolling jobs. my troll has currently in the polls. this is party around 17 percent in, in fonts. socialist discharge just doing the 16 percent in germany at this moment
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of the time. that's all the 2 top leaders are funeral and that voice in the last because we are lacking real leaders with the support of citizens. just 3 weeks before the european elections. the vacuum right to prime minister rubber pizza survives and assassinations attempt in the town of probably about a 119 kilometers from the capital practice. the government. so to shoot, to have a clear political motivation. one of feet. so as i said, being taught, hate for opposition. i love these factors. european lead is reacted shaw wanting the pilots have no place in europe in politics. but they've already been cut the waters either late or, you know, or to go to the feet properly scrap the spear, i have your judy elections. first attacks fans out spits brutality and it's intention. the fairies could encourage civil the violence in other parts of the comfortable with political hatreds. also from the you're
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a liberal political group review said it was increasingly along by the rising polarization. and the political severe few by extreme is by the ology some of those ideologies world show last november in the fall, right? we didn't post them as it was in respectable assurances, legality and moderation. what and 1st thing about it, they really wanted to do a, to plan everything in a way that seem to be legal. you know, they were, they, they emphasized it's always, you know, we do it legally. we do it constitutionally and i think this also shows, you know, the, the dangers which are the other of these organizations, these movements. and also the idea, of course, they try to infuse these ideas into drugs society, you know, not by breaking law enough by changing the constitution or doing unconstitutional
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stuff. but by bending all these laws and institutions kind of, uh, of yeah, like it's a, it's a slow poison into the society denazi's back then we're also saying everything has to be legal and you can look into it and they pull, the car is underlined. everything has to be legal. this is, this is, you know, normal the protocol which discussed the extermination of choose exec. yes. what's better backlash against you for breaking this story? any scripts k me away afterwards? the. yeah, of course, off of the story we had a tremendous backlash and we had people attacking us personally. the me, i was on the main channels of the party with name and face and saying that i am channels of the a f d. yes. so it was on the pocky main channels of twitter, etc. so they were kind of cooling out, doug, whistling against me, but also the rest of the collect teeth and
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a tory room was under under attack. i remember there were cameras, you know, waiting from right, right. it could blog is waiting for you to come down to says and they were showing we know where you are. we know your address. we are going to follow you and we know from internal monitoring of a ride to go check groups that they are organizing to find us. and we are actually not the only useful exec and every kind of use room. every journalist who is reporting on these groups is actually targeted and, you know, and the stronger that gets, the more. yeah, the more people are targeted. i mean that's for sure. it's not just in europe. the people are waiting with anxiety for the results of the june elections, ukraine, spices and politicians. those of any search by the far right with the russian sympathies could have serious consequences for the war with moscow in brussels. they know that to the i am or not have been
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not happy at all because sizing ukraine needs more, more weapons and more of munition and so on. your is supporting new k, but it's not enough. is it not enough in the military sense? and that sort of accounts and the end of the day off, they don't have sovereignty over their own territory. they don't have a country today. we have to see at least 4 lines of support. but you are either, this is a key one. this is exist centrally important, critical one to support the ukraine of a sufficient amount of immunization and right, that's the west has to do more ukraine's armed forces seen plenty of promises coming. go aware that there are political football and not always in the hands of best supporters. if the elections give the far right great to influence, it might well mean that those are munition weapon supplies become
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a trickle locked in successive e committees. by politicians who think ukraine should settle now with moscow and in the war. so far away from the field of conflict, the political baffled lines have been drawn for ukraine as much as the rest of europe. the stakes could hardly be higher the, [000:00:00;00]
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the, the to the points. strong opinions, clear position. international perspective is europe, on the verge of a major shift bar, right? political parties are gaining strength ahead of the european elections. and it seems like gone are the days when conservatives dismissed them to form coalitions this week on to the point europe so far, right? attempting parker support and service to the point in the 30 minutes on d. w. but we'll tell here we are happy that we are boxing the story. we have a getting
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