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the, the, this is the, the news life from berlin. after 6 long weeks of voting across the country. counting begins in india, general election earlier dissolved, suggest a victory and a 3rd time for names are movie and including b. j. b party. but with fuels seats, but then before all it's coming up, formal hostages has about how most of declared dead prime minister benjamin netanyahu says he will not accept the c spot and gaza onto the old israel's demands . ahmed and germany counts the project cost of another flooding
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disaster. johnson shaw says it should serve as a wake up called on the tracks close by time to change the hi british manager. welcome to the program. counting is on the way in india, after hundreds of millions of people voted in an election to decide who will form the next government and the was most popular as democracy. the national democratic alliance or the in the lead by 5 minutes to an end or more, these nationalist major p is guarantee i had in the account. but early trends indicate its victory will not be the last slide that had been forecast bnb it appears, attract, when about to 90 of the 543 available seats test. well fos, the 272. also a mock that's required to win
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a majority in the environment. the opposition in the alliance, which includes the once dominant congress, spotty, is leaving and around $200.00 and to $30.00 seats. so building is essentially on calls to retain power for he started said tom, but without the super majority that he had aimed for as get ball from body. the chief sandra made his mind, who joins me now from deli sondra. what are these early trends essentially telling us they are telling us that the indian voter remains to be pretty unpredictable and also that the exit poets were seen in the fire of the mach, because they only had projected as something majority for the n d, a left by prime minister more to speech a p. and that doesn't seem very likely at the moment because like you said, at the moment, the n d a is whole ring around 290,
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which would allow them of course, to form a government because they have crossed the threshold for that. but it's a far cry from the super majority that they wanted to. and if we look at the matching for a 2 thirds majority, that would be around $359.00 seats. this majority enables any alliance all potty to change in the constitution and they have fall from that as of now. but then again, things can change quickly here. so we have to take these early trends with a pinch of salt as well. but one thing is undisputable, and that is basically the to if and that ends remotely want to form a government, he would be setting a new record, wouldn't be a definite vision would be uh, ending for a search consecutive term. and he would only be the 2nd indian prime minister to do that off till one of india founding fathers trouble. i knew he was in the 1st prime minister in fact, so moody which be only the 2nd one in india's post independence history to achieve
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this. and he looks on track to do that yet the majority will be diminished. and for him and to speech therapy, that might mean that they would have to compromise maybe a little bit more with that partners in the n d. a alliance. because if we look back at 2019 bay beach, repeat alone had 1303 feeds right now the beach repeat alone. it's a $240.00 seats. so you know, they have lost as a party individually. and if we look at an interesting um indian state, like a tough guy dish with a population bigger than brazil, if we look at only which i'll try dish and cents a team, members of parliament to the national parliament here in danny. and in 2019 the beach, i p manage to win $6.00 to $2.00 of those states, and what top reddish, now, it seems, it appears to be the case that they have lost about half of them,
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and that is huge because it will, top reddish is in the northern handy heartland, and everybody assumed that it would be a clean sweep for the beach, a p, and it would have to dish. and it seems to be the case that this hasn't happened, you know, speaking but with the brothers, because i know that you're out on the campaign trail in there for days. and i just wonder if you're going to be gone for us. what the board does, what tending you on the campaign created when you were there? i mean, when i was in, i made tea and in rather a tool, i was about to say 4 more and strong hearts of india's famous noodle gun. the family is at the very heart of the congress, whether it seems to be the case that rob i really, which remains with a gun. this in 2019 could be defended by a rough week on the this time around and, and 2019 the other families stronghold in i'm need to you. that was the last to actually meet you. donnie who happens to be in the minnesota for women,
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children and p as in the n s a p as now she has lost, i'm 80, so the d. j. p. last, a very also symbolically important steve. that indeed was regains by the near to run the families. so that is huge. and what i could pick up on the ground for us that there was a certain sentiment, antique anti incumbency sentiment that that was also go to epa fee. and people, they really told us over and over again, and that's what they really want is help because inflation can be felt on a day to day basis in their pockets. the high cost of living was effecting many people there and also use unemployment insurance issue in a pop to this country in a popular state like which i've tried to push the use appear to be quite restless. and a lot of young votes has told me actually that they would abstain from voting either that or would vote for the opposition to send a message to the we the trip. really,
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i live at the for the moment. i'm sure we'd be coming back to you soon, but thanks for the time being dwone delgado to sandra page has been reporting from debbie, thanks so much bye to do the default and every such as far joins be in the studio with while you were setting. i'm sure what this ended, i was saying that, you know, these issues of unemployment and price rise. does it look like these issues campaigned for themselves and influenced the vote, or would you give the opposition some credits? i'm so glad you asked that question. that is because i was listening to sondra and thinking about the fact that in 2019 i was on the ground shooting the exact same complaints. i came away from those reporting trips feeling well of course the media people, lucy, itself, cost of a coalition would come in, but i was wrong. the be to begin to mass of features. and if you look at the board says the percentages of the what's going to each of these bodies right now, they are somewhat similar to what we saw the last name. what on which honestly means that the coalition being able to put it together to be able to, to this,
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to itself, from the segmentation of what we saw in 2019 really explains why the numbers have doubled, which was so impressive. and honestly, i am surprised. it was a part of the coalition with being slow, but they seem to have back toward the funds for the course of wasn't really working right when the, when they announced the coalition. last ed, this is the, in the lines that good talking about coordination of is it what 26. when you say when i keep moving down, because somebody's exiting, for example, it is commodity was the convent out of this, of this goldish and he left one back to be hot up and you're not doing so well. but that's another story. so that coalition at the outset was working to well, what do you think has worked for it in the late stages of this 6 feet long election campaign? i think the perfect answer would be with the b j p. and the reason i say that is because the reason people started believing that the one was shifting against that we do people the way they were campaigning. the came into the selection really confident. but the, the diet seems to have dawn during the course of voting,
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and that was really indicated by the fact that they'll be just be will sticking on a very aggressive anti minority to one very or briefly in its campaigning. and a lot of analysts said, why are they on the back foot be just be, has historically a very strong on growing presence. they know what's going on. and it almost seems like people expecting that the tide was still running against them. and for the course of these lots that really seemed so that would, that seem to have shifted to the core uh, to the congress and its allies and beautiful forcing the big, big games and reasonable parties. but the congress seems to have allied with the right creation of parties that have made those massive gains competitive. and to 19 both a bit about these vision in the body to go. they seem to be making a comeback of so it's right off. they've been virtually wiped off the map in 2019 a please the the parliamentary map and not so much the legislative amount. that's another story. know exactly, and you know, to get into the nitty gritty is if an all live long conversation, i probably have a surface. exactly. but if we, we often talk about the 2 big parties, i'd be talking about the b to b and we talk about the congress,
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the us deal of the 2 biggest bodies in the parliament. if these fins are to be believed. but the leaves, the bodies may reflect the fact that voters may be tired of the beach appeased with what an extent they may not still have gained fully confidence back in the congress that was at the head of follow for decades, but was voted out massively back in 201410 years ago, 2019 and performed to the 40 and the confidence in which the bodies is something that this is a section of the fact that maybe the national bodies annoyed us trusted them the regions. but again, both the b to b and the congress pulling these regional bodies into the requisition is a small move that it begins on a southern regional party that the b to b will benefit from, for example. but most of these benefits do seem to be accruing to the off position and in the end going forward, it looks like the opposition will be able to put up more assistance, would be able to prevent the beach open. you from seemingly steam rolling a policy is to that we saw in the last 2 sessions. i do want to talk about what
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another um, what the term potentially would mean for in depth. but just before that, i'd like to get a meeting id, but not to completing that day. i'd like to stick with what the issue that's under was also talking about why is with the but they're so important. and why is the fact that the opposition led the, the in the alliance is almost going neck and neck with the bp lead india alliance. and with that, but there's why is that significant to the entire result of this, of these notes in the elections? i mean, honestly with it, but there's obviously a fascinating, but i'm very surprised it seem as a better by the state of scene as a swing states sometimes. but the beach, if he has had a strong voice on this state over the last 10 years, especially at the local government or the state government is to be, should be as well. and uh the, the dish popular and seems to vote very often along religious lines. but speaking of that, it seems that the appeal that to be different with making to the construction of the historic is on the temper of the or the significant wrong around temper,
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excuse me, does not seem to have put to it as much the city in which that temper was made, but it'd be to be, seems to be using it. and the fact that somehow this uh, the anti minority dialogue that i mentioned audio seems to have back fired, especially for the minorities themselves. they seem to be working and it's able offer you some authority that of incorporation with the congress. so that could be one of the reasons some, what apathy does seem to play a role as well. and again, the solve. what, which, what do i want to do and out for compared to the previous years, but that often goes either way in india, sometimes if it would be incumbent sometimes if it was the opposition. in this case, it does seem to be free, but in the off position with the talking about the bees repeat, the basically traditionally relies on the so called him, the heartland states, essentially the states and the northern part of the country. and so i'm in the west and part of the country which, where the majority language is in the there traditionally do well that and you pay is a part of that. so this sort of shows a train that doesn't fit that uh what the type taken for granted as it's support
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base is it can be dented when it comes to people's issues of unemployment and arising prices. would that be a correct interpretation that oh absolutely. i think it definitely is safe to say that the him, the both has been a strong hold for the be chippy. and they were trying very hard to make inroads into the south as before. i missed them will be traveling to the south and visiting many temples, trying to appeal and see that he has a nation that a broad appeal. but it is that a solution of the movie get into that gift coming up again and again and the campaign. everybody said, well, he's a man, people believe and he's a bad people can fall behind and he will come through. that seems to have not come up. they'll find out the way that he was expected to. and like you said, they can be, they can be about as brand multi intended. i would definitely think so, but i do not think the beach if you will think so. i was watching and out of the morning as we do as of the national sport and in the country and the beach, if he did come on and on multiple times with saying this is too early to be at,
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the more the government will still form a thought them, so this is a vote in confidence to the prime minister, but the fact that the media be no longer has a clear majority. they're not even going foster hosp. the mock is by any means by any sites, a dent, but it's truly going to be a question of how humble will it be. it may be in reacting to that what you're going to to in the future be. i think that's another, that's another discussion to that. if we leave it there for the moment. thanks so much i, michelle, this is to take you to a list, a new engine book about the who joins me now from now delhi the launch. i'm, if you can hear me, we were talking about the and that ends are more the, and i just wanted your initial thoughts the as to, is this a denting of brand more be given the initial results that you're seeing right now? because i use the some of these in popularity because this is a target for 370 for the b b. and more than a 100 seats, it looks
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a lot longer because i know when the beat, the, the off the off the market $1.72, most of these each truck at the moment it loops is a trend. so it's up visible. now the now becomes the actual reality uh, you know, the mileage you need and we get the is going to be almost like easy chocolate for me to. 2 you oh, so you're going to be somebody to conspire to start even the 10 percent off is i was in boxes are ready to really get the dogs to invite because they're the ones who would be unable to ensure that the big season. oh my god, you know, have the address of the minority and then for them is on it. but is there anybody in that to be jumping that coalition that has a big presence then that ends or more the even if the result is the, the way it is.

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