[000:00:00;00] the the, this week around 370000000 people in the 27 countries of the you will be voting in the european solomon's elections. and the run up frontier have speculation, but the far right might increase its tale of seats and things that have great influence on how the use spends its money or low as it passes and what foreign agreements and signs so to speak, so high. and it's complex home found in brussels. there's been plenty of nervous tension among key politicians. we talk to 2 of them. manfred vapor leader is the largest political grouping center right to europe and people's policy about his predictions. his worries on the death of credible leadership in europe because vera

euro vice president of the european commission, i'm commission of values and transparency. how crucial of upcoming european elections to democracy in new york. i have to tell you that this election, so we'll have a decisive follow for the future years, and the way the life defend make business in europe. and so these selections are very crucial and this elections are necessary to protect. if the far right gets a big boost in the to the elections has some of predicting what are the dangers for the you for democracy? i think that if i look only the far right, but the political bowers, including the new members of the following month,

will destroy the unity off the european union. and unity for me doesn't mean that you have to agree this every saying, but the unity on substantial existential the important things then you will weaken . i think that it will be more of pressure on the national interest of motor pressure on also in my agenda on the you stopped interfering in to the southern states results. pay attention to the fact that all the member states subscribed to this been 3 days, for instance, is the commitment to, to respectfully the little flaw. i think that data will be more noise about and all the things that you is doing in the field of study under mentor writes. but also that might be some,

some people who will want to abuse the freedom of speech to be able to shout a hateful comments. and these kinds of things. could we say more pressure for cracked down on immigration, for instance. i thing that to buy uh, having the migration but the package adopted the story, it has not finished. and i think that this will be one of the things switched off the right to move on to open again. a more pro bosco policies, less support for you might be the basis of to know a new grain. i am to not have been not happy at all because sizing ukraine needs more, more weapons, and what i munition and so long. but on the other hand, i am so disliked by the reaction of the rest on the, on the russian aggression. and you can imagine i am a check citizen. so that are some historical lessons in chicky. we

read to come over over the last century that appeasement does not does not work. and that's why i'm so glad that's all we are supporting ukraine in spite of the big pressure from most called i'm coming in and it's propaganda. the 3, it should stop the support to your grade. your is a 14 ok, but it's not enough. is it not enough in the military sense and that sort of accounts and the end of the day off they don't have self into over their own territory. they don't have a country today. we have to see at least 4 lines of support, but you are either, this is a key one. this is exist, essentially important political one to support the ukraine, a re sufficient amount of immunization and weapons. but we should also not oversee that. that is a huge money battery in 8, that is

a huge support for the, the green and some of these that is a sustainable flow of money to ukraine, which should keep the state i'm going fulfilling the functions of the state. and i got it from my field. i think the 3 are doing a lot to paper. they're going on for the, for the punishment of the paternity test. so creating the data base of evidence of the crimes. i'm tall, novel collection of the, of the a list of damages and these kind of things it's, but the fact is, you kind is not only the smallest and isn't of winning the war because it doesn't have the weapons. and the, i'm the addition, it needs. and unless the west changes course and gives you credit what it needs in terms of that military equipment, it's kind of go down. there's no extra loop. so this is going to be

a business. no guess we have to support ukraine more in in it's in the war. but this is a legit isn't it goes this, this is urgent the whole time. and a lot of them is a landscape is rightly asking for more support in, in the field of military equipment, the munition and nothing's from the beginning of this, of the innovation of the west has to do more coming back to the european elections. isn't that the choose the democracy is on the threats in the you from inside and outside as never before? i have a lot of good data showing that democracy and electro process is under pressure under the new kinds of threats. not only from outside of the of go see the efforts on for i shot to convince the voters to vote for those who will

stop support to ukraine. this is the medically a purpose of the russian propaganda. we also see more on the document more hayden ways of influenza seeing the europe in information space from china. we recently saw the evidence brought by the secret service is that our politicians and you do not hesitate to get the bait from our enemies. so it is the combination of external pressures as an internal willingness to cooperate with those who have the whole styles. hostile plans for the for the and there are many other factors which are threatening democracy. for instance, of the look of understandable communication visible just because saw the people are calling for health that it is

a lot of uncertainty to one of your responsibilities is to ensure that the democratic system is open, transparent, and protected from external interference. it isn't protected from external interference, is it because the russians have been very successful in buying you politicians. you mentioned that the people can't have trust in the system where that goes on. i would warn against the f us to absolutely protect timely information space. we should also maintain some thrust and people that they will be able to apply the critical thinking. and uh, let me say, don't know which of your politicians is being bored by that show how come they come . they have to of go such a scandal or such. such disclosures are not helping my thought. at the same time.

we are doing our best to increase the level of protection of our information space in the sense of flex checking and supporting the end of the independent media who should be able to deliver to the people, evidence based tools. and i think that this is the only way out to defend our information space level of graphs and you have far right government is that uh and far right parties of the well established in your fonts in germany. they have a number to political forces or if somebody has a fire, right? prime minister, so vacuum it has a fall, right? prime minister, hungry is far right, is entrenched and powerful. bear already in the impala. yes. does that frighten you? it does because i see a lot of lying in the campaigns. i mean the promises. so what's frightening me as is the 3,

it didn't do enough to or for the people of the alternative. and i think that this has to be maintained a free choice for, for the citizens. but at the same time, and i will repeat it to the side time we should be able to explain to people what comes next. i see in politics a lot of the discussions about what happens in the box and the lighting of what we did good our successes. i don't see enough care about the varies of the people who really want to know what will happen next months for next year. or in 10 years time, this is what i hear from the young people when i'm traveling now from country to

country. i also have, fortunately, a lot of opportunities to discuss this, the young people, they want to know. but also they want to say what the future of europe should be, and this is so my onto adult of a few of, of the few of the rice of far, right, that this, that is a whole, that the, maybe the new generation of voltage. so we'll, we'll say no to it us. at the same time we see a lot of young people being manipulated, especially as the dick duck and other platforms and young people who start to believe in those very simple solutions. this is also frightening me. how scared are you that to my pay? i really serious price for not having done enough to address people's concerns. oh, i fall right walks away with considerable number of increased seats. i am good

enough to do more. that's why i am really no intensively discussing with many different partners and all member states busy also reduce of is the media organization. so busy and deals all this stuff. organizations which should implement the new los reassigned thing and i love the imagine i m s flying alarm. as i already visited, 8 countries, i will have some skype goals with us. i'm going to slow lucky on next week, and i am not coming to the stage to the member states to advise who to vote for, of course, as a liberal, a little bit to the left from the center i. i would have such advice, but this is not my job here. my job is to support the member states

so that they are able to organize the elections and the way that they will not be money related or cap chet, bye. a deputy technologies especially i have in mind deep fakes in this case. so that's my job to go to the country as the outlet. and also to explain to the general public in the country is that the uh we uh, if we admit that to be and if in both through era our destiny will be to live in lice, swat normal people should not want it. i guess it's a novice, worried time for you, isn't it? i am quite used to it. you know, i am. i think i'm doing the most sense. an emotion that

a sealed in portfolio because i'm dealing over the almost 10 years is the agenda of the real flaw, independent justice, no independent media protection of from the fund, a mentor rights. and these are all, all the things which they're on the threat on the threat as and which raise a lot of emotions, hatred. and i a going to go to storage because you asked me by. so the question of, but i don't like the idea that it has to continue like that the society and democracy has to adapt to the new era and to keep the best thinks the best principals. and i, i believe the 3 of them manage. but this is a very tens,

loman so when we see the full school with frustration, also keeping us in economic troubles. and that's the crisis water. we live in the, at all when the people have fetus which they did not have over many decades . suddenly, i receive questions whether the people will be able to pay the bills for electricity or whether they will have money to feed their children. and these are, these are such and that are being new kinds of questions that it could be a fatal mistake not to react on it properly or from the political side because the people are in trouble. and if, when we see the, the far right is on the rice, i think they have

a good analysis of the job. most of people, as they are responding to the problem is that in many ways they are lying to people that that is a solutions. so that's why i always say we have to do better as the democrats, and if you don't do better, you'll pay a big price. well, yes, isn't it? fed politics is a difficult and speak to difficult politics, is mindful very, but the leader of the center right here, fee and people's policy. i reminded him of his own warning last year for the you risk the fall right. surge, unless it got a handle on migration. and so far i suggested this happens when 1st of all, we don't have to look on the content from a technical point of view refill immediately to the right extreme. because the fall we have to serve as the interest of citizens and people are going to have clarity on our ex,

donald warner. they're going to know suits who are arriving. are real asylum seekers. really refugees, and i'll be leaving my friends. that's fine. europe has to be tough and we have finalized and all the legislation and migration and the last to weeks i'm brought about this off, the easy use of horrible discussions in europe like mending each other, being all phone to come in understanding. so it's a message of yes, europe stopped speaking via solving now the problem and your move to tighten the regulations of migration moves you further to the far right. and you happy about that because it gives you a new alliance. so strengthens an old alliance. but my red line is critically a, there is no chance developed to be able to be source was refusing euro. please do so are refusing to cooperation, visual crane, and be students who are against the roof at all in europe. that are 3 basic principles which are fundamental for my political family, as us on the part this one with respect and fees for the principal,

but it wasn't always so you would partnership with you this hardly pro european, certainly not for a rule of law. and these days, not pro ukraine either. that's why you were capable of being together with them for 10 years. while you know, big, the old ones thought that this freedom fighter against calmness and he was supposed to live road politician. he was part of the liberal party in europe and you still kept him when and he was and then he, most of the european peoples body. and then i myself, this group the, the years ago i expelled him from the party to make clear that enough is enough and that was enough and then designed to re exclude it to him. so he's not any more party member in the family. that's by our position is greece, crystal clear? let me use another name for showing you our a p a d n a. we have the party of the on the test. he's my pre does this or as part of you the he's now police prime. it is the he kicked out kuchinski off office and brought poland back to europe and those are roughly all back to poland. so that's a real dna you'll be and i'm proud of on this. would you be a king to have your family include georgia,

maloney the far right prime minister of it. to me i give you an on service yard guarantee trojan maloney's president of easy our lives that comes with the 40 i'm president of suited people's funny. they respect each other because we are both part of you does on you will be level, but you don't mind to join the family if you wanted her in idaho, i the p p. i don't see this that she wants to join. i don't see a statement from her. i don't see initiative from her. she's pregnant. it's typically a and that is what i respect and i have tell you that yes, she voted in favor of the migration pack to all bundled it against kuchinski voted against. so i seen her being reasonable on the other people level being ready to compromise them. you will be level and that is what your needs compromise. readiness to give in to accept a common solution they'd be bring you to for what kind of danger do you think the far right poses to your well that's, that's fundamental. you know, in germany we have, for example, if the and they are one of the key politicians, i guess it publicly this,

europe must die. that is what he says or because we know that a big part of the right extreme are puppets of 14. they are paid by putting ethan, why so if you're open all the new scandal on the table? so if that is that, is it state? so people must understand if they've voted for rights, very kills. they really never solve any problem. they will increase of problems. the police needs problems, for example, if they do so by them, they really never have an interest to solve some concrete terms. what would a sewage to the far right mean for your how would we notice the difference as well as the 1st, the 1st element is that they will not agree on solving problems. again on legislation, you have to make compromises a nationalist never already and capability compromises. the 2nd thing is you will see that they will fall back and protect and this so been live and becomes

president defronzo. i think that 1st message would be i don't want to buy any more of a tele and or the dutch of the german products, please only by a french proactive i do fall back into these categories. in europe, you're going to risk shrinking and know the idea of an open europe of a free roll. and far right, success means that they are risking blues to support the will to support our cleaning brains and this fight for freedom and for them across the that's fights. historic such a decision, i'm sure i'm of the opinion that april grading falls then putting b continue. the next talk of this and part of the european union was hybrid or a text. and that's why we have to do our best to step eliza crying and to give them put support for we need to more uh, and vis, right extreme, they lose. that's clear. there's a reason why people might turn to the right, isn't that is widespread discontent in europe with politics and outcomes, not just migration. a report to the commission in february talked about

a broad geography of discontent, of declining regions. many small cities, towns and rural areas have a sense of dispatch, not just limited to economic hardship, but also to have a feeling of being politically disenfranchised, socially alienated. you have sympathy with them. absolutely. i'm from a rural area. i followed one year ago for against the major reservation law and against some regulations against our farmers because they said enough is enough. we cannot, they cannot follow it anymore. what do you are producing us through, chris? he has proven for our daily business and they have to be to the far right. weaving them back up as our approach that it gives them a voice. i was a tech, so the more than the voice. so i, i, you know, i'm every weekend on the ground in athens, in bavaria all over europe. and i'm talking this farmers, and i know they recognize that they have people there who defend their interest. that's why we have to do so. we have to find the balanced approach in that i give you another point which is what is needed. not only listening to people, that's

a precondition for doing good politics, listening to people not lecturing thing, listening to them. but the 2nd thing is also needed. you need again, leadership on your level, you need results. so don't you. 36 percent of people 36 percent told at the end of last year cited the fight against poverty. as the chief concern on public health, cited by 34 percent, you know, some 73 percent. so they fear the standard of living with decline in 2024. that's not much face in europe. the commitment policies isn't there, right? but 1st of all, we have to be honest, the health system was a fight against poverty. so social welfare system is based on national level. that is not you repeat responsibility, but you are right on the economic dealer. you have to restart the economic engine of your but allow me to come back to this new distribution because look through my crawling jobs. my troll has currently in the polls with his party around 17 percent in, in fonts. social is the shortest during the 16 percent in germany of this moment of

the time. that's all the to the top leaders are funerals and then the voice. and the last because we are lacking real leaders, we have the support of citizens. you talk about the threats from russia, these elections has the work and up to it too late to do anything about it. i mean, without finding out the extent, or at least part of the expense of how many people would be bored by russia. how many european politicians are in the pay of the criminal? the spot isn't that, that's here. that's all for me to see this. how can people trust the elections? they don't know whether they've voting for a russian puppet or somebody who's genuine. i think everybody who has a little bit of an understanding about politics know where they're putting puppets are. so thanks to you over. okay, thanks. is there strongly so that we have transparency? we know what is going on. that's good. that's. that's enough. that's an advantage of a free and open society. good. yeah. so we do the full pick to you through the secrets of it should be it should publish really all the details. i all also austin badging

authorities now to publish everything in the bedroom, pregnant is to say it's public leave. you have a problem, but he's not opening the documents to give us what transparency i am on your side. i always prefer transparency before the elections. people must know, but the speak already about this. so i think in germany in front every be a people know that putting purpose is the right. does really well, you're paying the elections. donald trump becomes president or with this the election for the presidency in november. what kind of world are we facing them? then we are living in the new world and totally new world that gives these pressure and gives us an appetite about the real, the real i mentioned the real historic moment we are in. so it's not business as usual at this moment of time. it's serious. i'm sure the in the majority opinion of the people in europe, they know that they have developed together the have to find a common understanding. i'm trying to favor. thank you very much. i think he's

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