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tv   Flipping the Script  Deutsche Welle  June 7, 2024 6:30pm-7:01pm CEST

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world and also on your info is in all the input u, v. w story. now on to the they really have no idea how tripping some laws are for our farm is that's really doesn't work. and the practice is very clear. what politicians should do, all the things that you're familiar with to do them. obviously the hope and politicians is not very high here. forget or do you know about the usual political, the paid for the 2024. you repeat the election. we are flipping the script. folders will be at the center of the debate. and politicians will ask the questions on topics, shaping the election. like the climate crisis. i'm brittany, i'm active in these things, rebellion state to face. they come in crisis and to escape us like lemons collapse . we as a people have to take the power back. i'm just seeing, i'm
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a young farmer from belgium. the main thing that we have to do to fight climate change is to make sure that everybody in his continent takes his responsibility and make sure that they want to choose for a more sustainable life. yes or no, that's climate change affect you personally. for me, at the personal level, i feel like completely powerless because we have known that we were going into the collapse for decades and how, how can it be that the political system has been feeding us us through here and that it has to come to the generation of jews, we say this for a future say, and it's that this is not possible that action must be taken. i am a belgian farmer and why climate change affects me. that's because it's a real practice, our climate as really our workplace. and my father said less 10 years,
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it is all or is too much to with or to to hot and review. that's a lot of nav, corrupt paid. there's um, right now i'm a young farmer. i'm 22 years old and i'm thinking to take over to so many farm. but when i decide to do that, that's will be for for 2 years. i know that's already. but then i think yet, am i going to do that's. so that's something in my head that say, oh, maybe you you shouldn't farm because i don't know when i'm 40 or 50. what will that rather be at that point? but of the other hands, i'm very happy that i'm born in belgium because we are hearing the story. and if it's a place here, so we have a solutions. so in spain, there is a clear risk of does it, the vacation by $22100.00. there is 75 percent of the country that could become
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a desert if we continue with this. that's the point of putting, putting the hand break before we go to the collapse. yes or no. should individuals cut down their emissions to save the planet? i say nothing of your individuals should take care of it. so there is a possibility. and then i think about like a maximum footprint level where they can, let's go, but i think that's the only way to, to manage the climate change. so here i like to think of the metaphor of a done. so imagine that we have a river and there is a dumb that is protecting, i feel it's not because if they repaired, go through the dump, the beach with slot decisions, that we as individuals make when designed to consume. these are consumed up like they are insignificant, they are the equivalent of if that done has some corrects and there is what you're already falling to the village of asking the people to go get the bucket and get
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that water and put it back in the river. instead of actually fixing them, or instead of actually doing a change of very low flow before the root of think them of crisis, which is an economic system based on infinite growth and explanation of the most variables community as testing ever been addressed so that the scores that people individually, that we have to do something with our consumption for me, it's an argument to shift the focus from the be corporations. they're politically, it's that support them that subsidize them to the people. we need to do a big change that they're going to make a system. what is that? the big corporations, the multinational ones that have to pay for it and not the people i completely agree with you personally when you were saying that, like in the corporation after that the most of a work. however, in europe we're seeing on the part of the 10 percent, even like of the one percent of the will. and you really don't think that they should be as well. some individual action, especially from the people who are,
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you know, in this helps to things. so i think that we have to date france yates get the list to go through some from real action. so if i feel good, because i buy something that has that green label, i'm falling into the scores of growth because it and, and the scores that we have seen so far at your level. because you right now has both on the table that we then i get the conversation, the green, and i get the conversation goes from fossil fuels, to fossil fuels, from coal, and oil, to natural gas liquefied natural gas. this is completely seamless. that's not the americans, it goes from the station. when are you going to do that? it goes from the station into renewables and nothing to renewables that are at the micro level, but regardless of their money to buy that people. so in our community levels, so we can have this transition from fossil fuel based system into one that is based on renewables, anime, sobriety of the people having the solar energy produced in their own communities to
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satisfy the needs of their own communities and, and connected to the 2nd part that people need power. so we need binding people assemblies, not only people's assemblies, which are a process in ways that holds up relation at the national level make. we make sure that it is very whatever it presented. so people that run the many chosen but still making sure that they do represent society. well, we see that the european parliament really pushes us the farmers to have new loss for us. and that's kind of threatening to us farmers at the end the consumer has to choice to pay higher price for stay. the products are food and then like you said, the cobra to switch to energy. so our pullup panels, i already know that there are farmers who are doing that's and i don't think that comes from european politics, but from the real answer for nurse. so i think in my opinion, if you really want to do something, goods for the climates,
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it's not from the politics because i don't think you know how to manage. it's, in my opinion, i'm sorry we, yes farmers we, we knew how to make our soil, for example, more stable to grow crops on or to reduce or energy costs by placing solar panels or to working together and may be the politic it's a task for them to let them see what else possible today for the ends for nurse, so they can pick it up. i think we shouldn't make it a system debate. so i fundamentally disagree that it's about capitalism market they're calling me or not. but my question is to you. you said individual behavior is the only solution and icing everybody has a point. it's not only they have an individual, it's we have also to make positive decisions to revolt,
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climate action on to punish pollution which you agree. and so very concrete question. you said, do you live in the country where there is innovation? what's, what do you think 5 months can use and what can politicians do to make it easier for you to use this innovation? at 1st sierra, always people who say uh that like farmers are the big polluters. but in my case, i'm very young and i learned as how to produce more sustainable food. but then i only want one thing and that is a good price for my products. just that's just an income. i really expect from the politicians. that's if they say, okay, your wants to be that's here in 2050. you have to make sure that you'll be marked as protected. and like the met costs here law, i'm sorry, but that was something i thought that's a that's, that's going to work in the 3. it's repping for us, sustainable farmers. it's a,
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a merge and for the sustainable your few farmers i q way and then like to speak about the innovations or exist already today, especially for example, we have to they feed supplements for our couse that's we gift to them. so their, me to, in productions produce and the derby industry say ok, you only can sell milk to us if you have a, you have the speech secret events and your ration. okay? no problem for me to do that at all. but again, i want a good price of it because it costs me money. yes or no, it's innovation the solution to adapt to climate change of the goods. so 1st of all, the question has a problem. like we kind of adapted to the climate crisis. we have to stop it that we have to put a hand break to the roots causes of it,
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and then we'll have to deal with the symptoms like no one is gonna free us from that because we have already passed. sometimes some thresholds, the 1.5 is already on most for sure that we're going to cross it. we have to stop the greed, of those be corporations that make us dependent on those who feels to survive as no, yes or no. because i think it's, it's the solution a part of the solution to innovations. and i am a gift, again, an example of the, the fee to supplement the gifted cows. but then it's also very important that people change their mentality to uh, to make our machines to work that the sole society would change, right? because again, at the end it's always a consumer base, the price for it. i agree with the arguments that you use at that like i think it's obviously a market failure or the time i change that because good. but we were able to fix and all, or my good, my good faith was what kind of lows, what kind of decisions,
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weekend date. and secondly, like democrats, c is not about to be right. it's about to be with the majority because it'd be both the things that it's right in their decisions. and then the point is how we can build the majority around these arguments because even bossing some of those, like the protection of the body of the body that we had a lot of problems during the last 5 years. like why, if it's so we'll abuse, we are having these backlash against these agenda. like why i said that there's a failure from these and very democracy is because of these examples of people's assemblies where the people made decisions on how we could take them in action. and they were completely disregarded by the people in power because they prioritize the interest of the corporations. so this is a clear case of corruption. this is that clear flow of our democracy that cannot be solved because that people empowered and wanted to be solved. so
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a very clear way to make this to happen would be to listen to the people and those to make sure so that people's assemblies made that way. very clear. like we have to get this amount of emissions by this year. which abilities are completely ignoring if those had been meant, then we would be in a healthy democracy and we would be saving our world. but they were not meant year after year, with the corporate corruption, with corporate lobby, some and the pollution of the steel. they're going to call themselves green and gold themselves. we are saving the world without a big renewable. michael project was one of those our lives. so how can you ask us to continue believing you after failing to deliver what the people wanted that could save us out of the climate? the collapse. it's like you're a scam, the nature restoration law, for example. yes, i think it's the europe in green deal. europe is really in the right way. i'm very happy with that. and that's the 1st thing that i talk to,
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and i read the text from green. you was like you said, what is going to happen right? no, because you make decisions, but you're really not aware what it is going to have the effect on all of different kind of countries. i have a big network farmers in italy or some golf from belgium. the nature restriction restoration though, was no problem for falls, for belgium in another lens, it was really threatening. just as a simple example. you can blend threes on the one that gets her in belgium. that is, has the value of a $100000.00 euros. that's not possible, but then in problems it's like 6000 years. that's just very simple. but there's a lot of differences in europe if you gave this very a negative impression of what politicians have done in the past. but you also both
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agree in saying that's what politicians decide is super important for both, right? so my question is, how do you reconcile with politics? in the sense that you help the change you want to see and the decisions that are made. i know sometimes citizens feel powerless, but we are young. i'm also maybe close to your age of an older, but we are young. we have a lot of tools at our hands. what do you feel like doing to to change the reality of our political class? so 1st of all, unfortunately not everyone can become a politician. like that's a privilege step only some people that have the resources to go into that career and that have also their financial resources to be successful in it. because campaigns take money, they need to find them. so we need finished factors to be politicians. and the 2nd a full, i see a very clear way for people to have power and actually use the tools that are the more because it's have but that are, are there taken?
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just let people see what kind of polices people like them came up with. let them see the policy is that the politicians came up with and then make a referendum. and so people like which one do you think generally do better? we need that way to the people. and the way to do that is not only by here a token, but when i go out of here, i will continue being a militant on the streets and disrupting the system till we make sure that we have forward to the people you seen when i hear you obviously you want to farm sustainably, but what we saw in the media, certainly in the netherlands in belgium is this dichotomy being created between the farmers and for example, the climate movement. when i hear you talking, i feel like we should be allies. so why do you feel that there's like this difference and for brittany, i'm a big believer in climate activism and the fact that it's necessary to enact
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radical change and move the debate forward. obviously, i feel there should be a symbiotic relationship between climate activists like yourself and green parties all over europe. but when i hear you, i obviously the hope in politicians is not very high here, but that's an us problem, not a you problem. how can we improve this symbiotic relationship like at so we as farmers receive that the claimant activist come through the streets and that's not a problem. it's the kind of democracy. i know that's an on one site. i'm very happy that they do that's, that's a a, that's their voice here. but other, other sites. i sense what my seats in the practice and i, i think okay, it's good that they come on the streets, but they really have no idea how threatening some laws are for our farm is that's really doesn't work in the practice. and that's something i'm, it's angry about and maybe they,
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they do know everything about what is already going on or what is already working. i do think that we can work together and because they come in just this movement activity supports this modeling medium farmers and doesn't support the big corporations that pretend to be the small and medium farmers. i could definitely see us on the street together with the farmers and advocating for let's make the reach pay. let's make the big arrow industry pay for all the damage they are doing and let this modem and meet on farmers on their land like they do. and treat it and, and harvest it like they do, like the principles of southern 90 and the principles of autonomy. i think that's something that we share i understand that you have to feeling that the politicians politics has failed to. and that's, that's, that's who should problem i think. but you said with yourself, i mean basically until the end of this decade,
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the next 5. he is the absolutely important to maybe make sure to reach even to, to decrease. i mean, we're not even talking about 1.5, we really need 50 extra now. and we really need to what somehow together. so, what do you expect from us? what from, from politics, in order to gain back the trust so that we can actually do this together? because if we are only fighting and not trusting each other and falling into small different pieces, we will not be able to solve this the, the crisis. i'm not going to be even put additions. i went to canada and america last year to visit some farms. and i came back to europe and it was really proud that i came from europe on why? because all the farm was there sits. oh, you're from europe. oh, what a sustainable and innovation country and how do you manage your soil and he does nothing about it there. they are farming like my grandfather bits in the past years . here we are released up above top for example,
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and we are already also interpol's climates, actions, but you can do more because we are really strong or rich continent. i truly believe that there is a great fuse for me, but we have to keep going on and just pushing forward. it's very clear what's pretty decent. it should do. all these things that you're familiar with to do them. don't say that we would do it by 2030, do them now make up for me. so what i'm going to do next month of what i'm going to do in 2 months and then make real mechanisms that make sure that the people can hold you accountable for that and for you failing to do it. because i don't think that do would do it because as we're seeing right now, when the people we rise up when we processed and we say like, we're headed to an extension, we're headed to the collapse who is facing that oppression. people in spain are getting criminal charges for the non violence limit activism. how can that happen in one of the leaders of democracy that has to change that we're allowed to put
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this in and, and violence. wait till we get that system things as we need the i love the debate, but what kind of got lost is how climate change and the climate crisis is actually at the heart of inequality. so i'm a crisis will exacerbate, in a quality across all different social identities from it being worse for women, for vulnerable, poor people for migrants. and i feel as your opinions, as politician, we should put social policy at the heart of all our climate policies. not an after thought in order to make it more how swallow bowl for of wonderful people. but something that is at the top of mind, i liked justine and her proactive approach looking for solutions to be honest, i was really angry. about many things i've written, they said, and i was re said that we couldn't interact more. it is far away from many,
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many people that i speak to every day and to do as if nothing happens is just ignoring the effects and then to go to the treat and say, i'm really tend that is smotts of solutions. i particularly relate to do with how they were a bit skeptical or a bits, feeling distrust and politicians. that's also why i am running because i felt that myself message else is funding tons. this see i'm hung onto the fraud and the vehicle that you guys listed. have you see of late? crushed on some have on buses on skied. aunt is fond of sconces either that soon to of us. like to have them. 3 of them can just minutes for the because even compliments. indeed most and destination as the most. what's nice is i also regret the greens that our politicians didn't say, you know, there are for the patients, there are for something good. so it is, it is very difficult to accept that the room is full of greens and various
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allegations that nobody did anything for the environment to you. most of the decisions types of support also the least one topic that was mentioned there, that i think was particularly important, was about our european market and protecting sustainable practices here. one of the measures that for me, i'm most excited to bring in the european parliament to use the instruction both sustainability criteria on our board there. because this was for on the one hand streets just leave those spike choose team. that's a practice that agriculture in a sustainable way, but also we link will encourage other countries to adopt our practices to they want to trace with your. i think if we are creative, we can find solutions to the problems we face. i like very much to it for a month to possess the may think each other and to bring the dishes waiting to put some questions like very much that there was at concessions between the young farmer and the young crime with activists. they think that the file to do with you
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now is to use all of that documentation. and the challenge is tween blue meant the existing legislation even towards to the 5 months for a massive support and also to make positive steps. proving with a young man with activist is that that we are ready to do more. i think it to us and all the debated was a conversation sometime sweet as politicians also need to more conversations and the sense of what is the best solution to the political environment. always forces you to say you're completely different than the other. but the conversation part i think, is one of the ways to actually find also the solutions to fight the common classes .
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