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to nations and to shape tomorrow. join us and register now for the d. w. global media for in 2020, for the or during this week's da commemorations. the leaders of the us, you can france every people in both the, her role big fight from 80 years ago. they call the world to defend democracy. today, the message being, it was nazi germany in 1944. it is putins, russia in bathing ukraine in 2024. you may or may not agree with this comparison, but these are not just words this week. france announced that they will send mirage fighter jets to ukraine and train ukrainian pilots to fly them. and this will all take at least a year. any predictions have an immediate impact on the war would be? well, i'm a ross, i'm pretty golf and berlin. this is the day. the,
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the, some of the you, the key to all of your security lies in ukraine, and we would, we are squeezing the enemy out of the territories that should be under our control . that's come through the weights of them on with a key chat. unfortunately, we live in a time when europe is no longer a conservative piece, and there's a time when not susan is unfortunately making a comeback. diet. get a general stuff in defense minister. we have plans for achieving all our military goals. you've left hit the cross line off the line. tutoring is doing the same also coming up at britain's prime minister missed a key part of the day commemorations in france. a no show that should have been a no go. so why wasn't it?
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did you know i like had deep play. why didn't we start? as i said, the opportunity for these events was that weeks ago before the general election campaign not participated events, both in portsmouth and, and from the reviewers watching on cbs in the united states into all of you around the world. welcome. we begin today with a french promise that won't fly any time soon. france says that it will transfer its mirage, 2000 fighter jets to ukraine and train you crazy and pilots to fly the aircraft. a major shipment of weapons intended to help you create military pushback russian forces, and it's a gesture that underlines the message coming from paris, london in washington this week, as they commemorate the 80th anniversary of d date to defend democracy means helping ukraine defend itself against russia. as europe and the united states paid homage to those who defeated tyranny,
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80 years ago, ukrainian president below them is zalinski pleaded with fellow leaders to help his country do the same now against russia's illegal aggression. comparing russian president vladimir pollutants actions with adolf hitler's very important that in this you need the united states of america while the american people stay with you . like it was during. ready or to president biden apologize for the long delay in the last usaid package and announced a new one worth $225000000.00. but all lies were on the host, french president, a manual mccomb who for months has been considering whether to dispatch french troops to train ukrainians inside ukraine. it was speculated he would reveal a decision. no, but he didn't. announcing instead and aid package including the delivery of mirage fighter jets and the training of pilots plus an entire brigade of ukrainian soldiers. but this will take place us in france. he said taking them on lead.
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although it's a legitimate request to do it inside you. crane, he added mcclung also rejected moscow's claim that trainers inside ukraine would represent direct french and therefore nato participation in the war. an escalation is booting, who is escalated the war. mccall said so heading and putting but that's none. the less a convenient kremlin narrative, nato chief in stolen burg and other allied governments, were constantly to rebuff. nato has no plans to the boy forces to uh, to ukraine, finished. president alexander storm says he won't be sending troops either. ends doesn't support the idea of acting alone. i think it's very important that when we are part of the allies, we work as an alliance and knocked him separate books. more allied scrutiny of mccullin's actions may be on the way with parents as announcement. it would be sending mirage fighter jets as the rest of nato has agreed to focus on the delivery of f sixteens. ukrainian president zalinski just said he's grateful for more
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support or correspondence. here it shows, she filed the report. jerry joins me now from brussels. good evening to you, jerry. that was an excellent report on the comparison of adult hitler with vladimir putin. that is a main take away from this week's the day commemorations. it is not without controversy. is this a comparison that is shared among all allies of ukraine? well, it's very hard to say that anything is shared among all allies because of course you have countries like hungry, which says it does not support ukraine and that the any help for, for keith is prolonging the war. that anyone who sends assistance to ukraine is a war monger that said it was very helpful for president zelinski, but so many countries that so many world leaders in their speeches did make this comparison, that you saw all the crosses, you know,
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in those very touching scenes that show that the fighters from all over the world were willing to come the last time that tyranny threatened to overtake the european continent. and president zalinski and, and other front line states have long wanted, you know, all of the allies to feel that this is their fight, that ukraine's fight must be shared by all of these other countries in europe. so i think that this touched a lot of hearts and especially for example, the scenes that we saw when the world war 2 veterans told president zalinski that he's a hero because he's now fighting for europe. yeah, of course president zalinski turned it back on on the veterans themselves. yeah. it was a moving moment from yesterday. that is your um, what about the french mirage fighter jets for ukraine? considering that these planes will not be in use until sometime next year is just more of a political gesture and less of a move to help ukraine's military or so i think it can be both
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brent and i, i'm certain that president zalinski is thankful for any assistance he's getting, remember when he used to say that he wanted fighter jets and they told him he was never getting them. so now he is one of the problems inside nato, though, and this is a bit complicated, is that allies, most allies have decided that they should really focus on f. 16 so that you should train pilots to, to fly one system and then work on getting supplies for those systems. work on getting you know, components that will be needed for repairs. and basically, for example, sweden, which was willing to provide its own griffin, just was told to stand down, let's all focus on f sixteens. and then i can tell you that this came as a surprise to allies that the french president mccord announced he's sending french mirages to us. this was done not in consultation with other allies from what i'm being told. and while of course, no one's going to despair is contributions to ukraine. this makes it a little complicated for, for the other allies. and it,
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when you mentioned the political jester, for us has come under a lot of criticism for the very low level of a to you create in comparison to g d p. it's like number 23 or something. you've got countries like even belgium ahead of it, not to mention the baltic states which are pledging, you know, above one percent of their own g d p. so i would say this couldn't be both a political jester and an attempt to help you. great. now what about the training you creating and positives to fly these planes? why does ukraine want the trainers to be inside? you crank as well. it's not just trainers for the jets it's. it's all kinds of training from what i understand from ukraine's request and something very interesting that came out of an interview. a president mccomb gave last night to a french television. he said that the president zalinski had renewed this request to get trainers inside ukraine. just 48 hours ago and that therefore he expects there to be more consideration of it. now what ukraine is saying is that then it wouldn't have to take its, its soldiers so far from the front line that you maybe go to western new crane
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where it, where it's safe for you do the training where you're not putting the french or other forces in, in so much danger and then they can go right back to the front line more quickly. but i've talked to a lot of a lot of other countries and they say, look, the risk is just not worth it for us. you can hop them across the border quickly as well, and then you don't run the risk of, you know, giving the kremlin there's very convenient, a narrative that nato is taking part directly in the fight. no, of course the secretary general spells and berg will say, if a country sends its trainers inside ukraine, that's bilateral to ukraine. it's not a needle fight, but of course that's not what the problem says. jerry, what do you make of the criminal reaction? let them be approved, you report of the things that this proves that the manual back on really wants french or nato boots on the ground in ukraine. brent, this is what he would say. no matter what i mean, you and i have talked about this many times. he calls every thing an escalation.
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the problem is that in this case, if you finally do open, we have french or soldiers from other countries inside ukraine, announcing that they go inside to create it makes a lot is a lot easier for, for vladimir putin to say. now, nato is taking part and before that, when troops are training ukrainians outside ukraine and, and giving assistance even taking off the restrictions for the use of those weapons . it's a lot easier for nato to say, hey, we're not on the ground there. this does complicate things for nato, a. w as terry schultz tonight and brussels. terry, as always, thank you. have a good weekend. were despite the very acute need for more fighter jets to petrol its on air space. ukraine, as we said, can expect the mirage fighter jets to take to the sky that the early of sometime next year between now and then you crane is facing an overwhelming russian force threatening to take back more and more territory and the eastern part of the country now, the mirage 2005,
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did you have entered service in the late 19 ninety's. it was considered one of the best combat aircraft at the time. the criminal is condemned. microns move, calling it highly provocative. moscow says this shows to be said earlier, microns desire for direct french involvement in the board is ukraine? well, i'm joined now by military analysts, marina barone. she's with the worst studies department at kings college london marine to get to see you on this friday with french mirage is now promised. this has to be good news for ukraine's more effort or is, is that also someone of the mirage? good evening brand. well, it seems like good news because ukraine is getting something which means it's better than nothing, but essentially is a situation reminds me of when breton agreed to send, 40 and challenge of 2 things to which essentially is
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a logistical nightmare. so now that ukraine ukrainian pilots have been training to operate the f sixteens, you have to separately train pilots to operate mirage fighter jets. you have to establish separate logistical lines. you have to also train ground crews and engineers supply spare parts and so on. so it's not a simple thing of just getting those planes to ukraine and saying here you go, feel free to use them as you wish. you also need to supply them with munitions. so error to error munitions or air to ground munitions, depending on say, it is a huge complication. aside from that, the pilots will need to speak english or french in order that can be trained and was ukrainian shortage and manpower. finding people who have social skills will also be very difficult in hearing you say that,
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and it's speaking to other military analyst today, and you could get the impression that the shipment of these 5, the jets from france is more of a headache that to help at least for now, and it also tells us that this boy is going to be a longer one. not a, not a shorter one. do you agree to? yes, absolutely. uh 1st of all, friends doesn't have that many old souls. fighter jets always think about 40 other countries of fields. i'm include brusell for instance cop tar. you a e. so it would be a matter of convincing those countries to give up. they are in the raj is to send to ukraine. so essentially, we don't know the numbers that ukraine will get, and i think putting a timeline of about a 7 months, 8 months until you create and we've got these fighter jets is very optimistic. i don't seems that ukraine will get them by the end of the year. so i do think that
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at this stage we can expect that it's going to be a long war. and this is just a diplomatic, a political gesture to ukraine. the trends is supporting it. and the spend that behind decree, nato members have also promised another advanced fighter jet to ukraine. and that, of course, being the us made of 16. i'll throw that into the equation. is that going to be helpful or is that going to also be more of a hindrance? it was a has been a lot of delays when it comes to the 16 delivery. and it seems the problem is aside from training pilots in the ground crews also preparing hungers and the airfields and ukraine that wouldn't be targeted by the russians. the main problem of such announcements is that they come a way to early giving the russians enough time to prepare and to adjust. i think
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ukraine can certainly use them and can certainly use them for the purposes to deny . as the russians control of the air space, specifically in relation to dropping the fads that the russians have been doing in the past months. so that can be used as pulls them. but we don't know if there are some speculation that they are already there. they might be there, they are coming and summer and it remains to be seen how the ukrainians will integrate them into the overall operational design and how these will be used and who will supply the missiles, of course for them. and then what wants to be the kremlin has already said that it finds this decision by france to be very provocative. your provoking us basically is the message that we're getting from vladimir foods and when it's to, when is a promise of weapons to ukraine when step too far for the kremlin?
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do you think of as well, i'm not sure because bulletin is not just addressing the western world. he also addresses his domestic constituents, population and russia has to show that it's displeased. it has to show that it's strong. that being said, i don't think that it is a step too far because we already have the f. 16 matter on the menu. and i think that russia realizes that to me, ross planes will not, through magically change the strategic situation of specifically when we're talking about the battlefields configuration. so i think it's more of a way to appease the domestic constituents population. to show that raptor is not going to liberate such behavior unless think russia is already acting against it. and it sub threshold without invoking article 5 nato's article 5.
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right, well, mirage or not, we appreciate your time and your valuable analysis on this friday. marina, thank you. thank you for having me. remember regions of the 80th anniversary of the day landings and wrapped up in france with us, president biden giving a speech from the cliff top that us forces scaled that day. 80 years ago, the veterans of that operation are alive today. fight and asked americans and others to remain true to the ideals that those soldiers fault for 8 decades ago. meanwhile, british prime minister reaches their neck, he's under fire for skipping out some thursday's main ceremonies of a dd anniversary in france and assume they're headed back to london early to give
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a domestic television interview. this political opponents have called the move disgraceful. so your neck is running for re election on july 4th, but his tory party is truly in the opinion. polls here some of what he had to say about himself. he did, you know, i, i care deeply why didn't we start, as i said, the opportunity for these events was that weeks ago before the general election campaign are participated, events both in portsmouth and in front and having fully participated in all the british events with british veterans i returned home before the international leaders event. that was a mistake. and i apologize for that for the participated express of my groceries to the veterans. nice thing. as i said, an on reflection. it was a mistake not to stay longer and apologize for that. but i also don't think it's right to be political in the midst of the day commemorations, if i could, should rightly be on the veterans and that service and sacrifice for all countries . veterans who suddenly unless they will come to town, they politicizing step of apologize for not staying longer on reflection. that was
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a mistake, but i did have the privilege and the pleasure of meeting many, many veterans and my colleagues, charlotte, joseph hill, she is in london following this interesting story for us. charlotte, good to see. give us, if you would have a sense of what people in the u. k. are saying about the prime ministers very noticeable, no show. yeah. well, i think the funds that he les, these commemorations alley has left a lot of the, the people that i've spoken to completely speech this. the fact that a british prime minister leveling a concept, a prime minister could leave events which have such says nation of the nicholas has really been quite shocking. and i think many see it not just as an insult, to insult to those who fought but to the armed forces generally. now the prime minister has apologize saying that on reflection he recognizes it was a mistake. that's something that's been echoed by team members of his own party,
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including the veterans administer, who has said that he fully understands the outrage that people are feeling. and he wants to get a sense of that. the poll has been conducted, you just need to look at that today. it's found that 65 percent of people that are believed is unacceptable that he left these events early, including more than 2 sides of people who voted conservative in the last election. now the sting in the tail, the story for many people really have been, and the fact that it's transpired that he left these events to late to take part in a television interview not really opened him up to allegations that in what is a campaign period ahead of next month, selection that he left and events commemorating veterans in order to campaign, essentially. and as you can, i'm sure you can imagine political opponents have been lining up to give tv interviews, criticizing the prime minister some cooling. it's a dereliction of juicy and then one in fact, saying,
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but he could you conclude that the prime minister wasn't patriot tech? well, that is a sting again, diamond to make against any politician, particularly during the campaign. we want to remind our viewers as a general election scheduled in the u. k for july, 4th, less than a month away. i'm here storm or the head of the labor part. it's interesting. she was at the same event yesterday and he stayed for the duration of that event that was also noticed. he has his prestige or have it, has him, his number's in the pose been effected by that to well, it has to be pointed out at case tom or the leader of the label project. the label policy is in read coming and looking like is going to dominate the election coming forward that the concepts of policy is going to suffer. and perhaps historic last
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is so this story really has given him an opportunity to set himself up. in contrast with the prime minister, once again, as you say, he was that for the duration of these commemoration events. and he was able to uh to uh, stand side by side with a major international leaders like us president joe biden. jim charles that will actually rubbing shoulders with these key figures shows it showing himself in a statesman like position head of this election. it's something that the prime minister himself say will to do now as a kid. 1 i was also able to attack the prime minister today saying that there was nowhere else that he would rather have been. so on the one hand you have the prime minister facing accusations of pursuing his career ahead of these come memories. sions. then you have the leader of the opposition going in saying that he was quite the reverse. yeah. either way you look at the,
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the optics here certainly are not good for the prime minister. that is for sure. are very on the charlotte just until with the latest from one to to 9. charlotte, as always, thank you. have a good weekend. and finally, what is the term the day? mean today, most people using it, they usually be in a moment when the rubber hits the road and something hits the fan when things get real. 80 years ago the day was a day when things became very real. when the war turned in favor of the free world, a yes after d day, us soldiers fly over this historic sites, the beaches of normandy. this is where the allied troops landed in 1944. the end of the 2nd world war and the liberation of europe began here. the day was the 6 of 21944 allied forces from the u. k. the united states,
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canada, and other countries, landed on normandy beaches on a stretch of around 100 kilometers between shareable end of it was the largest landing operation in the war, supported by 6004 ships and apple and troops. the allies eventually advanced into french mainland and further to germany. the operations around the day have been g as in the making soviet lita starting once it is western allies to open a new front in western europe to pose nazi germany found. at the time germany occupied funds and had heavily fortified the coast prior to the day, the allies launched deception operations to trick denazi's as to where the invasion would begin. it was difficult to find a suitable place for the planned invasion, but in the end, the beaches of normandy served as the entry point. thousands of allied soldiers
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eventually followed and drove back. denazi's side is still out of goodness. in 1944, the allies had getting back big parts of northern europe, north even a year later in may 1945 nazi germany capitulated. but the day took heavy to estimates say more than 4000 allied soldiers died that day. i to end up to 9000 to them and so which is the and it has been a week of remembering the events that shaped the world we live in today. but the day continues online, you'll find this one x, also known as twitter, and on youtube, the w do. she can follow via brent cock tv. and remember whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day, have a good weekend. everybody. we will see you here on the
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