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the problem funding the yes. welcome to the program. i've going dodge prime minister. mark realtor looks likely to become nato's next secretary general. his soul challenger remaining is president class. your highness has withdrawn his page and does not endorsing brought to to take over it. when norway's against oldenburg stands down in october. as, as young stilton berg, hands over to mark route to it's the outgoing dutch prime minister's personal motto of go with the flow come to life. it's hard to imagine a successor, more similar in nature, to the stoic norwegian who loved the alliance for a decade. the pragmatic, likable uh they are very capable of foraging pollutions and,

and bring different positions together. richard is famously low key. he lives alone in a modest department in the hague. teaches weekly, at a local school and gets around the city by, by a few years ago. a video of him cleaning up his own spilled coffee went viral. this image of com confidence, plus familiarity after more than a dozen years is the prime minister. one him early backing by most allies. dashing the hopes of a stony and prime minister kaya call us that it was finally time for a female secretary general from an eastern plank country romanian president. close . johan is, meanwhile, did throw his hat in the ring, holding up consensus until now that also allowed regular e. you consensus, boiler victor or bon to exploit a personal grudge against boot, with whom he had clashed bitterly over the years and rule of law issues of the doctor. man, the real responsible man for home. the goal is to bring home getting to the city.

this time route to had to compromise by signing a letter confirming. he would maintain a pledge made by stilton berg to allow hungary to opt out of supporting ukraine at nato. that deal is a controversial start to root this term in a way it wrote to you in an image to the consensus will of nato. so i hope the realtor will not make more of these kind of concessions to national leaders depending on the outcome of us elections in november root. they may have bigger problems. allies backing his candidacy seriously evaluated his ability to assume stilton as mantle of trump. it was for the root that has a track record to he is publicly rebuked trumps acceptance of us. he, you trade tensions. if we don't, it will be positive also because now we're just thinking about those cars that are far in here. we have to work side, it'll be, it'll be positive, but in a lesser known incident at the 2018 nato summit. trump's rant against a europe slow defense spending was so bureau and stilton berg asked almost every

one but national leaders to leave the room. finally, chemo cluster was there and says route to stepped in, adult donald trump. that's a, hey, he could actually take credit for the recent increases in spending, which was not entirely correct, but it's sort of calm down. uh, president trump. and he found a way to spin the situation as something that said he had a cheese, but the turn around the defense spending didn't start under donald trump. started under obama. true. but i think the most important task of any secretary or general is to make sure that there's unity within the lines. that's going to take all root is considerable maneuvering skills was now 32 allies, political shifts under way and a war next door that's bound to run on long into his tenure expect it to begin october. first. a rose got to another,

was the deputy to outgoing nato. cheesy and stilton borg at burg. for several years . i asked her about the state of the lines which is about to get a new leader. i think understood silver. the nato has really stood up to the challenges that have come from russian aggression against the 2 crane. fairly data was assisting you, crane and in every way it's kim and stone. burke has been a very, i would say, study and strong presence in terms of, in the individual countries, you know, getting the call from him to help more to help more and, and constantly really because of this, the individual capitalist who makes the decisions and by the way that, that you've been very good about making decisions on helping you crate. i think that was a factor. i'm good to selection, but most over has been very firm in a study handle the tool or this is almost the cliche that we hear every day. but in this case, it didn't mean that he was applying study pressure to individual nato capitals to

do the maximum in terms of providing equipment from their own stocks to ukraine. now, assuming martha is actually officially confirmed, does the next step, nato secretary general? what improvements do you think he could make? i think it will be an important material, because essentially there's been this effort going on, some people called trump proof nato. that is to move the management of the so called ramstein process by which the countries are pledging military assistance. keep trying to move them under the nato. each is under the nato headquarters view just rather than having a kind of fully owned activity of the united states to manage and run that process . so i think that will be the most important thing that route to early on will have to make his mark on his, his ability to continue the flow of assistance and do it in a way that may in the end of the day, mean that the united states a stepping back of the actual mr. trump become the us president again in the fall.

well actually sticking with that topic. and if donald trump were to win at the presidency again later this year, what do you think it would mean for nato in general? or oh, 1st of all, i'm not predicting he's going to win by any means. i didn't start to the imagination but, but the 2nd point is that should he, well have democracy is a great thing. should he win them? i think he will find them much different dates of any found in 20171819. when i was the deputy secretary general at that point he was very tough. all nato, and very strong in, in essentially threatening not to fulfill the article 5 commitment to defend nato allies that they'd be a tab attack, say, if you're not to, you know, i'm not going to be prepared to help you. and so it was, i think, a great shock to the nato allies that this kind of transactional behavior was going on. but i think nowadays trump will find a much different nato with

a 20 out of the 32 members. states now stepping up to 2 percent of g d p. that is the commitment they made a whales to up their defense expenditure. and i understand from nato headquarters that another 2 countries are likely to hit that mark. by the time of the summit meeting and in washington next month. and so 22 out of 32, that's much better than what trump saw when he came in 2017, for the 1st time. when fewer than 10 they don't remember, states have reached to percent of g d p that you mentioned during your ukraine. let's go back to, to that topic. and now, one of the most important tasks of the new nato chief will be to make sure that there is actually lasting support for ukraine. how big of a task would best be for rotate t? thank. or i think again, it will depend a lot on how much a europe has to pick up the slack should the united states, you know, step back from, from the kind of commitment that present biden has,

has had. and in that case, i think it's quite healthy that a number of nato member states has to leave another loans have assign. now these long term security commitments to ukraine, including the some of the largest states, such as, as france and the u. k. and so it means that there is a firm commitment not only in political terms, but also in terms of the kinds of resources that nato member states in europe are, are prepared to put into assistance to ukraine going forward. and i think that the router will have a lot of a lot to work with in terms of commitments of, of money as well as, as political capital. but he may be facing challenges because it will, i think, a worry many nato capitols in europe, if uh, if the us does step back. but i liked the way last year with the munich security conference. he said, look, stop whining about trump and get on with our business. we have to be prepared to defend ourselves. so that's the right attitude. now, briefly, if you code,

do you see any shift in how real to might deal with russia? no, i don't think so. because after the shoot um of, of the malaysian airliner was so many passengers on board, back in 2014 a change router's overall approach and, and really hardened his attitude toward russia and the russians have been very unhelpful in terms of satisfying concerns of the whole international community about that shoot down and so i don't see any, any change and kind of overarching, a tough out of 2 top stands for moscow. rose go to molar. thank you for your insights panting to digest, their former deputy secretary general ross, go to more kenya is unpopular, our finance bell has passed a significant hurdle on its way to becoming little after parliament. the voltage is

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back down. the canadian actor donald sutherland has died. he was 88 so that one's expansive career stretched from the film, mash to the blockbuster series, the hunger games. he never retired and worked regularly up until his death. donald sutherland korea was as varied as it was long born and raised in canada. he began acting while studying and university in toronto. this is 1952. i said do they have a wonderful theater there. and i went and i auditioned and i was given a punch in james servers, the male animal. and to this purpose, it rolls and mesh and don't go now helped propel him to start of japan with the golf,

shirley and the pots. just keep coming cuz i am the be profiled credit sutherland with nearly 200 wrong including and the more recent blockbuster series, the 100 games we both noted above, given children that i'm not wasteful or take life for specific reasons. sutherland received an honorary oscar in 2017 and also and amy and golden globe awards. his son and fellow act kieffer, paid tribute to him in an online post describing him as one of the most important actors in the history of film. it's all right, you are up to date after a short break. there's a documentary if i have the last remaining read boat fishers in peru. don't forget there's plenty more news and information on our website, d,

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