time in his task, benjamin netanyahu says what he calls the intense phase of the war and gaza is winding down. just to be clear that does not mean that the war is over, as well as holding onto it stated goal, eliminating homeless, but that goal remains elusive. 9 months into the war, the group has not been dismantled, nor have the remaining hostages seized during the almost her attack been brought home. so really, what has the intense face of the war achieved? on the confirmation, berlin, and this is the day the, the end of the fees of intense fighting. very soon we want to in this, or we still getting that 120 oxygen is the most important political science sensitive objective. the to shame that all of i mean

is to still continue as business as usual with the is that for the interest in politics after the intense raise is finished, we will have the possibility to move part of the forces north. and we will do this quick enough silver the to be then the also on the day polls say the national rally is on track to finish top in french parliamentary elections this week. how worried should frances allies be? so, is this a national rally? is today the only movement capable of the mediately, insensibly responding to the clearly expressed aspirations of the french people. in 3 words, we are ready welcome to the program. it's great to have you with us. benjamin netanyahu has signal to that what he calls, the intense phase of israel's military operations against thomas and gaza is

drawing to a close. but the is really prime minister says the fighting won't stop until the group no longer controls the gaza strip. is rails declared, am in the war, is to eliminate him off and liberated b as really hostage is held by milton groups is an am, israel has not achieved, but these really military chief of staff says the structure of a mazda in the city of rasa is nearly dismantled, israel's military now appears to be shifting its focus to it's northern border, where classes with lebanon's, hesper, i'm, unless you all have been intensify. that'll tie up close to benjamin netanyahu despite the political head when he's facing both at home and abroad. but his message will likely disappoint those pushing for us to use foreign garza and the speedy return of his rarely hostages. gimme a scream, we ask him if there is an agreement. it will be an agreement, according to our terms. and our terms are not to end toward believe goes on her

mazda, as it is, i knew i refused to leave him off. as it is. of course, we need to eliminate it. as fighting along israel border with lebanon, heats up the prime minister, signaled israel could scale baskets, operation, and golf. uh, there's too much your love out soon after the intense veins is finished about. cool . so for the hold on we will have the possibility to have a part of our forces nor efficient is good enough because we have them good talk to show him show on the bike. and we will do that using a hot 1st and foremost to meet for defensive purposes. when the, when i was in a lot of bites, i called to fill out the form with them for, for the crossbow, detentions have continued to rise since the outbreak of the war with israel repeatedly striking the a roland back to hezbollah. melisha over the weekend. international observe, as of cold for restraint. owning an open conflict could trigger awhile, idaho in the middle east. is really defense minister you go on to his currently meeting with us officials before leaving for washington. he told the president,

luckily, these meetings, i will discuss developments on the guns up front, the 11 in front of people, and they have a crucial importance at this time. i'm not familiar prepared for any action that may be required in gaza, lebanon, and other places as well. most, most of the, again, it's relative to the government's handling of the will continues to grow. over the weekend, protest is raleigh, near the headquarters of nest in yahoo! usually crude party, the biggest, so far according to organizes demanding the return of old hostages and an immediate cease fire. meanwhile, civilians in gauze, a continued to get quotes in the crossfire full palestinians, including a child among the latest victims of his rarely showing on central gauze the on monday. and we can now talk john sack of similar, he's the director of the counter extremism project here in berlin. welcome. it's so great to have you in the studio. now. israel stated goal going into this war was to

eliminate from us and gaza and deliberate. the hostages, none of that has really happened, has that. so what has this intense phase of the war as that me, i was calling it really achieved? well, there have been some successes, but really not really any sustained approach of these 2 core a. so of course they have killed a little from us like this. of course, they have broken some of the tunnel system, not all of it. they have definitely eliminated a large pots of the weapons were cuts and i'm storage as of from us. but they haven't gotten the to lead us safe dave and seen what, and they still have about a 100 this radio hostages income. so if they would leave now, how much would it be back with a month unfortunately? so what it only can mean is a re full course of troops away from the ga, the strip to the north, but they are continuing military operation in gaza strip at the lower level. yeah,

and we are in a military official today saying that at israel is close to dismantling at the rough up for gauge. now i'm from someone who knows this conflict very well. are those traditional military structures really the way that how mos function? where a must have filled up military structure, but it's not like a brigade. it would be in the drum and ami on the us. ok, so it is a organized group of fighters and, but i thought brigade was really the last brigade in, in inverted commas. that is right. happens tackled yet. but that doesn't mean it this or as how must fight as of these various debris. gates that they have given this model before either in captivity with it. it's still a loose connected cell network or from us that really fights back on a daily basis against this. right. and a couple of weeks ago was even able to fire rockets. i totally forgot. so what does it mean then that they dismantled the brigade then in the north they,

they said they had completed their mission in the sense. now they're popping back up again. it seems like they're playing a very sinister game of whack a mole there. how can they, how can they move forward and then effective way and move towards achieving that stated goal? is that even possible the way they're going about it right now? well, the strain, the armies now encountering exactly the same challenges that the international forces had enough kind of time or the american and british forces had in iraq, is that you can not just clear area of tires to inspections elements. you need to hold that area. now and then afterwards, you need to administer that area and they've been very good at the clearing of the air. yes, they have been partially good holding of the areas, but since they have limited group members that always have to move troops out. so what of course happened was that how much fighters simply pushed into this newly cleared areas back into, into this, into these areas which they had been before. and with these read it happened. all

right, so this can be a hold and administer step wasn't really done. so yes, they've got the northern guys that yes, safety. yep. now i saw, but that doesn't mean that i must won't be back as soon as they leave these areas. and if is right, it has now decided that they have to concentrate more forces in the middle because his bullet has increased its attack, it clearing into how much is hands and it's being into as well as science, because that's exactly what both groups want them to to me this all started in response to the october 7th, her attacks it as broad, incredible hardship to the people of gaza. now has or how much loss supports over their role in making what is taking place in ralph and all across the strip up happen. and triggering pulls up very difficult, but the has one by the pa, this team and research center just recently, which really shows that now if i taught has graded support in gaza strip them how must, as bob thomas has great support in the respect that and then uh fantastic,

so it has lost support, but that doesn't mean that that would be a, at this point, a viable idea or full is governing does not if it's not, is really occupied at the end of all of this. and that means there's the question. who is going to be the biggest problem factor in gaza ones? these rarely homie would complete the withdrawal or mostly withdrawal. and at the moment, still, the only viable power structure that would very likely take over again is on my. so the not at the end of this at all, i want to look at them. they offer it a 2nd, but the 1st, what do you consider to be a boss is biggest source of power at this point? is it popular support still? is it something else it's, it's building this to accept as many policy and in casualties as it takes. this was the strategy from the very beginning to make this extremely bloody conflict folders where the government makes this really government news international support increase the pressure on these rarely government so that they have to stop before

the back is truly broken in the gaza strip. and looking at today's announcement, i'm wondering whether this is not a strategy that will in the end, maybe work out. well, that is very interesting. how could you see it working out that in there? well, if israel really now stops a major military operation in live and on against discipline, i know you've seen this in 2006. what kind of results it takes because it's paula is truly an army. we have extra pre gates, which has 5 more rockets follow ballistic missiles and has developed a low flying high speed drone that the mates, the i am drawn the having a completely different military scenario that you have in gaza where it's more in search and they offer this as an extra provincial consultation, which means most of the military energy will go to the north, will go to a live anomaly and buttoned up in on will again, like in 2006 experience major destruction including in, in,

by route because that's were just for us, send off gravity is but that also means cause i will get less attention and then we may be back if we were at the point, maybe we're into october 6, which would be a direct your call. yeah. and you say there needs to be a plan for governance for gaza that looking at the past. how have tara groups like, how months been taken out affectively? was it through diplomacy? in the end? there were a couple of examples were like in the irish republic, the high r, hey, was brought into a peace book this. now the problem with a religious ideology, like i must, as is, there is no political process to be had. this is a extremist organization whose identity is comparable to that of archive. doesn't have a global bond at this point, but certainly wants to have is lumnick state and goes on. so there is no negotiation. you can have someone who has a lot really just, i do want it to be on the ability to try out terror organizations simply by

providing governance that is taking away the source of support. and in this case, it could only be seen in governance, but the p n a is very historically meet at this point. so that doesn't seem like about blocks, only remain locked and has been international control. the are a union or the un getting control over the gaza strip and managing until a newly established political solid. you could take a stack of shinla. thank you so much. thank if or the polls and friends say the far right national rally party set to emerge as the largest group and parliamentary elections this weekend of the party is predicted to gain around 35 percent of the vote beating a left wing alliance and the party of president and money and my call the prospect a victory for the national rally with its nationalist and the anti immigrant

policies has francis allies more than worried. here's german defense minister of worst, the stories. these come to mind as i mean, i can say from my pots and for the view of germany, the nationalism has never been the solution to problems. but in fact, a substantial part of the problem is that if it does, is that this is a lesson from european history that cannot be neglected. this thing, that's why i wouldn't be happy if a true result were chief, comes back, which would strengthen the democratic free and pro european forces on those the future of europe. because they know they have a is what the german marshal front of the united states. where she focuses on european security and defense issues because they know welcome to the w. now we just heard the german defense minister giving a pretty clear election recommendation. that's a fairly unusual move. isn't that what exactly are francis allies worried about with a predicted wind for the pens party? so 1st of all, thank you for having me and, and didn't. the thing is that, um,

if there was a fire, a prime minister, or if i ran a government in france, this would certainly be an earthquake policy in europe to the extent that many from the mentors of french foreign policy um, would potentially be questions such as um, reading either wanting us to move direction project forward, and also it was significant, complicated working with the french government on all the issues related to your team that fast and find policy. so even though the french president has a very high competence and foreign policy defense, for example, according to the constitution false to the prime minister. um, so that particularly corporation, along with this tier, industries could be significantly more complicated than it is today. let's look at defense because france has been one of ukraine's most outspoken and staunch backers . what would a national riley when mean for european support for ukraine?

so this is still very difficult to say today, because the project of course remains pretty bank. and we also see that the, um, national ready has been a bit more cautious on the question of ukraine. so around a week ago, also as on down vanetta with unique, tentative might potentially become pregnant mistake is of a victory. explicitly said that the, basically the war in ukraine is a security threat for a year. and they are now also more cautious and genera on their rhetoric on russia, which previously was very russian friendly. so we do not know how expected and foreign policy under the national already would look like and, but it is certain that there is a big question mark with that. and i think it is this uncertainty that makes it very complicated. also, father in europe seems to anticipate what is basically coming. yeah. and very

concerning for, for francis allies. i'm, i'm guessing now, no matter the outcome of this election that is coming up and my name i called will say on as president, that is just the french electoral system. he has extensive executive powers in a scenario of what the french call cohabitation, where he be forced to work with his political enemies. how much can you really achieve against the will of parliament and possibly the government? so 1st of all, it isn't funded foreign policy and also defense and security policy has been more most centralized in the, in easy and recent years of the call. but it is also very interesting to know that actually particularly defense policy. it's one in french, it's called a domain protection. so to ship the domain of policy making, the fact that the president had so much a group on that for small political practice, then a constitution or reality, or comes confusion or obligation. so that we can potentially embrace for an extra

the negotiations or grant for influence on for him. pharmaceutical sensors in a particularly defense and in the next months we don't know how exactly a potential to hear it on the accreditation on that. but the fact that my call is committed to the alliance between france and germany. it's not the best relationship at the moment, but you know, it is a strong ally and still the main far right candidate. you mentioned him, there's a down by the law. he says he will respect the franco german alliance, but he wants a stronger voice for france in europe. so what would change if the national riley really established itself at the heart of government? so 1st of all, i think even though we hear things like um, maybe like commitment to the franco german, i am sort of franco german partnership from the french national. really,

i think it's still important that to know that differentiation already really has a traditional in framing germany as to bad guy in europe and basically framing extended german government takes as a very different mentioned from france. so the idea that there might be any kind of a french government or french government, under a prime minister, by the law seeking close and cooperation with germany. i think that is purely english or if there was a nation, i ran the government and it is particularly from my 12 best friends, wouldn't even know that france could be pushed into a stronger cooperation with germany. and it is also on the flip side of my call, who could potentially be the most important interpreter for germany because on many projects by stopping on a man's tv and level such as the meadow tank um, the friends in germany have been working on or even cooperation and why not try and

go to get them exponent. i don't see that they would be. busy willing to swing age and am i, am i calling the president has warrant that the policies of the far right and left could lead to civil war? and to what extent is that election nearing and to what extent showed francis allies really be concerned about political instability in the country going forward? so i would definitely not use um the wording of them so, but why? because i think that is a very, very strong and also opponent raising statement. but i think it's through the lines that there are tensions in french society. and that it is increasingly difficult to basically reconcile the different sides in the ends in debate and phones. because basically what's the emergence of his pocket, the muscles and on mash, which originating end to strings, from the port as it goes center in france. my call has de facto um,

absolutely. we can. um, the part is the rep, previous sanchez at the center needing to strip estimating the pallet to the forces at the politico or the mountains as the fringes of the partnership and system. and it is, i think it's safe to say that particularly when you're looking at the polls or you're currently looking at a desperately hung upon your mind if um the poets indicate what we indicate a realistic scenario. and i think domestic instability is something that, at least definitely can prepare for. but we have to see how it is playing out on the government level. and how this is going to affect for impulse. because the nevada of the german martial fund on and my name, i called the big gamble. thank you so much for all those insight. a thank you. the russia is blaming the united states for

a ukrainian attack on crimea and marks the new escalation intentions between russia and the west. moscow has summoned the u as in bassett, or to warrant that it will retaliate. at least 4 people reported lee killed in the attack on sunday and over a 150 wounded. some of the injured are being transferred to moscow for treatments, brush or claims. long range attack that was missiles were used. like those you can see your on the screen. the kremlin says the weapons were supplied by washington and program to find us specialist. and we can get more from the double use of russian affairs. analysts concerning a god who joins is now from villainy. is constantine good to see you again? so russia claims the us beer is responsibility for these attacks onto the possible . how are they are justifying their accusation, and do they have any evidence for their claims of the 1st nicole? the answer to your last question, there is no evidence as usually there is none. this is a very clear propaganda cliche which brings up convincing the

russian people that it's not the ways or against you, cried it just a well with the west and against the west. the west is attacking rush, and that's why there is such a reaction to the attack comes a missile strike of the crime in the fact that of the russian government. so the russian farm, the street called in the us some best of the to protest no means to highlights this idea of confrontation with the us. but frankly speaking, i think there will be more such strikes and there will be still as little evidence as now that the us forces are really directing, distracts. will take any kind of active part in watching themselves. what do you say is not? and so from, from what i gather from what you're saying is that they're playing to a domestic audience. then how concerned show the, what should the us,

in this case be about warnings like this. then the look, put in is destroying such mornings pretty much every week. we keep hearing about new collab missed as changes in the adult train. but what he does is what his forces are doing pretty much. the site is tracking mostly civilian targets in your crime, with long range artillery and such. and by now we pretty much know what could be the response in terms of truly military metals. i don't think the clinton has anything more any, any, any more surprises of his sleep. what you've seen recently is a very suspicious fires which look like a x of sabotage in the european union. only think that if russia really wants to show that is very serious and responding we, we, neighbors, you. ready we, we, we can some mind steps eventually there will be some kind of rush or links out there that may try to blow up something in the us. that could be a possibility,

but i do not think it will ever stop strikes by us weapons launched by ukrainian crews. they get us rough from todds. so how should the west, particularly the us react to these threats and well, i'm certain, do you guys will say that this is the depth as we already had in the base? i think that the americans go to just to reach are right, that it's the ukrainian sovereign decision. where to strike end of the crime is a legitimate military targets. it has up at least by about the depending on who calculates but at least 200 minutes resigned. staff, all legitimate targets that uh the, uh, the, the beach which was shipped, doing destroyed is located near military base. well, i mean, the russian government has to take care and tell people to be off the beach and

model just before when you called just before we went on. as i was looking at the russian telegraph journals, russian social media and all ready. i've unconfirmed reports that in fact people on the beach, the engine worship by debris from russian beside the air defense. mrs. valdez was launched into stuff that 2nd one will never know probably, but i'm literally what we have told to you about the peninsula. that's is a completely full that is covered with military sites as t w's russian affairs and the list consenting. i got. thank you so much. i a lesser time, make sure to stay informed. stay engaged and stay in touch for now though from the entire team here on the day. thank you so much for spending parts of your day with us. by the

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