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trans 5 fall right opponents. my guess is we cassandra, go see outgoing, member of the european parliament in president macros when they saw this list, how risky is macros? decision to coal snap elections and from i'm really resigned to for fall right. with the majority center, i've got to welcome to come pick some. thank you for inviting. are you looking? you'll lose this morning. right. i mean it's very, we are not satisfied with the results and the, the, it's your be a lie that no, it's friends. whoever bought the, the positive you showed that the we asked the bad, i think indispensable to promo the i want you to be on project. even some of the president, macro and supporters are saying that his goal for snap elections is a high risk strategy. but it's less than that, isn't that when you call elections at the same time as you have
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a 65 percent disapproval rating, it's a leap into the dock, isn't it? what i mean? i don't think that the we, we, we, we should drama die is a democratic moment. it is to be at that the situation with which as a marriage the at through a vote. and that will be on an extra large be influenced by domestic issues that the reason need to clarify the or did you go situation in process already did. the national assembly was struggling to function properly. 5 strong is right. mean to find that those going to be so to wish us that the french citizens are waiting for a and then bins must war. uh, i mean the, the best to resolve the go the stream. right. assume last that with a made it even more difficult to function. so i think that so at the lead and my, me, my call and takes a high risk. but the 1st of all, it is a is nature as that going to be the right way of asking for the front seat as to
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whether you want. they've been writing government. oh, they want that every form. uh a, i mean a national assembly. we scary out the reform in another way. so i think that that this time to clarify the situation. mike crow told his team off to the results came in. i prefer a writing history rather than submitting to it. doesn't that suggest that this is a last ditch effort to do something, anything to re gain political authority because the results have been quite a slap in his face of the day i those are the as i say, i can also be spying my girl. only the one was being that every liked it. why is the beating that they, they, they stay and fight it, disagree at that the, it doesn't want to, to submit to the then say was what they already did already ship even do is one of the party to go the initiative which i eat. so the, it was useful to take,
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because you disagree, i repeat that. and the french revolt there's, uh, i've shown this that this function ending patients. uh, these are this fashion, that means that they belong to the solution or morris more effective. so to show you patients that they want the things to happen, either the one know the out, the need, the effectiveness. no, i mean, uh the faucet, the fastness would be issued by the national assembly as it stands now. so i think that that he was right there to ask for a democratic uh joyce. uh and the to do it quickly because the discounts we cannot afford to do. i already made a mistake made that for a long that. so what you're saying basically is that he's trying to reboot a struggling presidency on a policy that is had to limp along without an overall majority. and problem,
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it says 2022. a i think is a, is a, is there listening to the voters and the vote? does the say we want things to happen and the, the debate that during this it will be on the measure and these are afraid you the manage to keep the focus of the debate on the re, uh you won't be any issues because a lot have to be dominated by protecting file, by security, by you should that belong to the nation. i was via and belong to the confidence of the national the assemblies. but what matters, i'm saying can, can what makes, what makes him think he can reach the voters in 3 weeks when he's had 2 years in bond. he hasn't managed to reach them. and that time, what i mean, 1st of all, uh we, we that we, that we can see what the goal is. the 15 to 20 percent of the vote does, which was decided to abstain as it would be on the last,
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on what day we decided to do. instead of going to the, if we let ask the vote does, whether they really want the, the, it, it, they stream right in government to take on the responsibilities. or if they want to give it to the majority to ease a reform is project. do they, we don't, they have a majority to this room right by the we don't that even even the majority for the presidential, much for the presidential a question. and this is why we are struggling. and these, why the national, the assembly is busy, go you through the being to study bird eyes. doctor the selection. so i mean, it's the live stuff. yeah. they couldn't do. it could be paralyzed because that would be a good be. i'm on that. these are, there's a difference of what the, what would would decide is it starts off. i mean, everybody must take on. that is, the only responsibility is even the bullet, this mistake on that responsibility that this up despite the, the adding patient that with this situation,
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they will have to decide whether they want to give the majority to the president or they want to give much, i'll do this to him right. president macro has 3 is left in office. is this property does less than expected in the parliamentary elections? my team resign. i don't think so because the french uh, both as, as really decided that they wanted him. eh, for an out of the 5 yesterday, i mean 20 to 22. so i, i think that that was damaged goods. politically isn't as it is or this is really play on popular president. let's face of the preventative already made the choice about the, about the president. they must me that you always about the how we spotted them and they want. and the problem is we skim out after the 30 of president my growing drain going to do was it was at bonham. and the way out it was very difficult for legislate very difficult to walk out concrete and effective sort of shows. and now we would see where the on the side and they'll do that. i differentiate,
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we decided to add it much more effective, the national nice and, and on around around the which browser, if macro himself doesn't go, could somebody in his government decide to jump ship a while? i mean, i yeah, i don't see a anybody now wanting to get out of the presidential team. i think that the, all that he does that clearly declare that the they wanted to are united that the disagree or that they just, they are huge. and there is need for union in the presidential majority if for the foundation of the party do a project you disagree or that, that there is a, a democratic crisis. and there is the need also to reform the way democracy in politics organized. and these are the subsidies team that it didn't fish and bottom . that means we'd like to be a majority who work on. there are social answer the icon on the taskbar,
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but that also issues around the democratic. but the supervision i want, i want to talk about reforms a, a bit later on and, and press you a bit on that. but so i'm wondering how much monitoring there is inside present. macro is proud to one of his own outgoing and peace of mind. you pay over said everything points to the national rally, winning a relative or absolute majority. and so that's a, a pessimistic view of, uh, how this selection will end up as well as the should that scheme you should that is that the ha, not the, not me, i didn't, i didn't a, i didn't think i made this big issue. yeah. make the duration on you made it. i think that the, the, the up through the open ended thing that the, it, this time a, i repeat full responsibility for the charges for everybody is absolutely not true that the, as the in the, you to be on that as shown there. was that a way be in favor of national? right, right. national riley. this must be confirmed that adds
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a just that the reaction of the, the issue would be completely different. the money left, then a job done by the law. we'd have to clearly say, well, these was the project for from c's. it's very unclear to me today, and i think it would be very and 3 l. so for the, for the french valdez. each election, it is a story, a bar. and i think that's what we have to do is to prepare and to, i mean, the do, the about 30 needs goes to jersey. they showed, i'll do that, you open, i o both. so that the so called democratic forces would take on the responsibility before es, especially after the election. eh, because i don't think that they seem right that showed the scan. can you see the president of micro sharing power and what the french co co habitation with a prime minister from the far right from the national riley. i think that as any progress then before we met e, we left at accept the the results of the election. any resolved the,
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i mean be what, what the, the reason we say what they were there is that would be because that been to me to home because i paid for sure. ok. i hope you're doing that. but the claim i opened that the they would be the majority for, for the president at bach. the, i mean that a reset that he applied the constitution. mister godfrey to listen to some of the do blades and pronouncements from around europe. some people seem to be treating these results as a cataclysmic shop for the rise of the far right. there's no surprises. it was full cost and illustrated by pose around the you for a very long time. so, so why the surprise, the scale of the victory? i think it on one hand, this gate because that i mean on the object, the ground very high and the mounting lip and box the, the false bought the them of barked into the, in the, in the european powers,
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i meant so stuff that they disagree at that there is a, i'm, it is a, it'd be a victory for then i would say that more because the, because for us is a key country for the european integration. but not, there's not all the a found the men bestbuy this be not always the most new brand shut down to you to get that with your money. and you guys always manage. so 5 to block the rise of this thing right differently if, for example, for me 30 a and that to see now that the, the stream right, could see that by why in the, in the national environment, it is so totally shocked and that's all in barry's box around europe, i understand it is i think for the started going to use us for the key role that false and especially now in mind with macro always played see is that brand to 17? let's look here. if we may have why voters have to to the far, right, so many of them inside deputy president of the commission very you're all of
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a sudden on this program last month said, centrist politicians haven't done enough to offer an alternative to the right to send the right to european people's party, the demand for the vapors. and part of the problem was we could lead those like macro and schultz who no longer had widespread public support. there was a pretty serious indictments. do you agree with that? you know, i don't agree. i don't agree with the month of the day, but when they say that the amount that mcroy is that bi weekly, the, and the as shown even in these very difficult and courageous decision that is that we can now, again, i have uh, the other, the ford bus certainly doesn't like and either lead the sheep. no, no, no, uh no, of course. but in shouts have been pulling around 1617 percent. that's it. that's not much in the way of public support. is that what i mean? i think that's what i see. the, the exciting already started going to be the leading. let's go see that, that, that we are getting down the web. we've got out of it and then make we, uh it, in
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a, in a theater with the war, you know, crane with bob buddies which has come back in the middle east that we saw at the end for us be much better than another county. instead of a 5 d, a gauge inflation and keeping the port jersey bow off of c, cuz as of close to a most boss dealer at the end as it rises as heated. also this gantry uh there is a fee. uh, essentially that the fee, uh there is a sentiment of a certainty around you and it is set then set set dement the fee. uh, so the thing that we just few of these stream, right, they offer easy to take solution about the inefficient as total shots and that. so this is a what, this benefit thing that you might view bumper the smooth mind and this room right to move mind around, around the guns and the is why we have to accelerate the response. this boat that mentioned that about i would say, especially at your yeah, i live in from blonde for bay,
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but i would expect that it must be more active role. there will be on people's box, the improvement of the reform at europe. you out of that, do you not saying that traditional centers potters have become just a little bit too complacent to self satisfied? there's and there's some truth in the i don't the, i don't, there we go. nice. my cell phone does recognize the euro, but as a, as a set of, uh, satisfaction on the group. but we have been very active about being always pre the step is 5 because you want it to things that go faster and go and go and go to a demo for the for most, especially at europe young level. i would say that the we have always show uh, showing the ride sensitive origin. see it disagree at that the we haven't the, the, the friends problem and no idea will be on the bottom and found that the, the, the, it is that the f share the same stance. so for just see and the same,
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we look for it for me even eat, but i say i would say that the we have achieved the import that resolves that are producing the right the fact august to be not fast enough. the foldable this and that will be on the nations. why is that? i mean, b, u is an organization that never stops asking people what it should be doing and holding consultations about his role. so why did it listen to the criticisms, to many people was saying that they felt disenfranchised. left find, i'm consulted. and they said so they didn't like immigration policies, the state of the economy, especially in germany. and the far right said it would fix all the problems. it's hardly surprising that large numbers tons of a visit because those problems weren't being fixed even after they had been signed, posted pretty adequately by people over and over again in the what is it? take migration we have uh off the um, 9 in itself. this joshua negotiations, the state made the uh, we have the manage,
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the 2 adults, the end is auto migration effect, which gives it a good part of the answers that the seat is not waiting for because the defense wants to take back control 1000 to date they controlled on migration to take back control on the was done on board as to as a more efficient streamlined as item procedure to be effective and very thorough. but the country is the right to that. i mean hungry has rejected that poland is rejected. the migration packed up the, the wrong, the board on that own go out to the wrong go migration says 201420158 is not the rest of the of the storm. right or not. i mean the tooth was wrong. on migration in 2015 and i mean its not because out against the right. finally we have managed to adult to what it says rules showing which is the right sort of, we should own migration on those. they don't disagree. i. we have adopted 3 months ago. obviously they told us that the dent that feeds the effect about something
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that they are the master. and by the way, they stream right that when they are in the position, i like my mind that then they will, they gave the solution. but whether i can government, they count on our solutions. mister godfrey, you, you have said the, you need some more democracy. some have already asserted that these european elections prove that point. but there was nothing i'm democratic about the was the 190000000 people there about got a free vote in 27 countries. no voting irregularities, no fraud, as far as we know, the system is non democratic just because you don't like the result, is it up? so it through the system is the demographic but must be abroad. why? because even in this case, the in the select shows we have back, but they've got the, we were like the, it's going to $9500.00 and we have got much more $27.00 nations out of the beta bar
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3 or most of the on domestic issues rather than the a europe, the not just the nation or the debate on what your should do should then don't, should do less. so should do more. and i think that these are the by adults. we are the only one in the, in the ward. but like they're going to end up going to the end to it, going to the bottom of it. but we continue to do so through 27 national debate. these why we propose that we, i propose that there will be on 5. i meant to act that a number of member of that would be on the bottom and voting dollars. they utilize the 40 to go boxes because that would be a lead story estimate for trouble in may jo change? well, let's, let's have a look at some of the changes that may come as a result of a what we've seen so far, the surge of the far right. they will have significant momentum as a result of the gains in the, in the parliament. i'm wondering how they, what we use is germany's institute for international for us as european politics
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are going to get more power, the rising, more politicized, and more populous. which policies do you think will be most affected by the changes? well, what if, what's a phone? i would say that the it, these inputs under there would be on file i'm going to be, i might, it's probably it'll be a majority and a non boss on the, on our side. because that if you were to get the seats of renewal at all for the young people spiked, you know, this was a demo. got. they got to more than $400.00 out of $720.00. so i think that the 1st that we showed the gold fee i meant it probably won't be a majority. so that concept that the, the extreme right that might, that be effective in the trying to grow some specifically this vision that really depend a mainly on the attitude on this specific business of the europe. young people spot the like the green deal, like the green deal, for instance, i would say, yeah. also, or the on the green dean. the issue now is to find the resources we've been and did
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. i don't think that we have but the like the war gonzalez's vision. i think that it's so thank you for it. let's just do for him. we'll get there. now we have to focus on the resources to find them. they, it would be the investigation. i would say that the, the main issue, but what about ukraine? what about the assistance to ukraine? weapons, ammunition got. i mean, i, i, that i, i, old, but that we, we continue to take a very strong pro grain, you know, stances on that, that it would be this stream right there. is it all up and be with the there's no support for moscow. isn't that among the battles and then run for money in that bad . and the going to complicates the use assistance to ukraine, isn't that i don't think so, because the around the table in the accounts did where the government dob, i would say that there is the, the, a very large majority in favor,
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of course doing this report to grade set, the lead in some votes is going to be on the bottom and either assume ride, go see him that pro with the proper the spouse is that seems like would be more complicated. but once again, i see that we should put that we should put that the support the brain as well. the highest priority together with the fans in the new uh, the m on the roll, your piano groups. and that will be on the bottom. you've talked about the need for reform, which we've heard for years. you also want to bring in majority voting on all major issues. but the smaller countries are never going to agree to that of a, it's a non stop to well, no, because the, the boss that we have managed to allowed the, the majority voting good. not to be spending that well, the fact that they will the always be not, is more that down to the now that ended up. yeah. you and young, they, they, they usually that the disagree at that the, even the, from a less
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a be down to is more a gantries. a you have to make up your mind. you cannot be in favor of the unified, they've gone through the end of the opening the door. so to create and you know what the west and bog down. and at the same time, to resist the does it majority voting because the 2 things that do not kind of are incompatible. the more we are, the more efficient must be the voting get. they both the system and also, you know, around that they bring that down say that it's not that when you vote the by majority, you'll impose your decisions with the minority. when everybody knows that the, at the end of the day, we can vote by majority. everybody make the effort to, to bring the contribution and to reach a conclusion when it was gotten to know that it can be though it doesn't make any effort to look at the organ at all with sandra the gays to russia. so i think that
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these are usually the just especially of this more accounts is because the big guns is some guys can do on their old smart has more gun 3 needs so deadly and more power for the more effective union. mister god say the president of a european commission, those sort of on the lie and says the center is holding. she comforts herself with that sort. but you have the 2 big lead is if you're a president macro and john, so the shouts of germany really fighting to regain some kind of momentum. john, so shouts, his party was beaten to adjust the price by the christian democrats. and the far right a, if the 2 big leaders struggling to hold onto the careers, what effect is that going to have on europe? i think that the now we, i but they then they, they key role that we have they keep debate with be within that will be
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a problem because the disagree or that the you that you will be on problem and we must be that. but this no new pro european majority and this probably or be a majority cause even if they were all for is that i wonder, lie and provide you that she doesn't want to. she doesn't open uh to the extreme right? delta v c a e c. and eh, of the middle one and the they keep going. i think that the, but it could just me more. deadlock will delays in committee proceedings more holdups, it could power lies the european parliament. these results come that know they quote on it because they don't have the numbers. and by the scale that they, we depends on the error as possible that to do the 3 main forces. i repeat your young people's bought the social demo, got the end to renew or europe. i think that we should open also our majority degrees provided that they get the more problematic approach all side then issues
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are the dorky, especially on the all the green transition. but they think that there is a possibility of having get a stable into effect. the majority of the goals and the, the good aspect of this resides the ad. there is a, there isn't the possibility of a stream right where the majority is stormy. but the do depend on the attitude and don't be consistent action of the 3 main forces. all right, sounds i've got say that seems to be asking a lot. thank you very much for being on complex on, appreciate your thank you, the, [000:00:00;00]
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