the 10s of thousands of talents had to help with reconstruction. but the end the dream of revolution does july 20th on dw, the a search and support for file write policies in the european elections are sent tramos across the continent. not more pa, food than those who's in paris and berlin for the policies of both leaders for trunk by far right opponents. i guess this week your central got the outgoing member of the european parliament in president macros when they saw this list, how risky is macros decision to coal snap elections in front? and when he resign, if the far right with the majority, central god. so you're welcome to come pick some thank you for revising or you're

looking, you'll lose this morning. while i mean, it's so that we are not satisfied with the results and the, the, it's your be a lie that no, i friends, whoever bought the, the positive you showed that the we asked did the bad, i think indispensable to promo the i want you to be on the browser, even the some of the president, macro and supporters are saying that his goal for snap elections is a high risk strategy. but it's less than that, isn't that when you call elections at the same time as you have a 65 percent disapproval rating, it's a leap into the dock, isn't it? well, i mean, i don't think that the we, we, we, we should drama die is a democratic moment. the just to be at that the, the situation with which as a marriage the at through a vote. and that will be on the image shown, largely influenced by domestic issues that the reason need to clarify the

or did you go situation on your browser or re do the national assembly was struggling to function properly. 5 strong is right. mean to find that those going to be so it really shows that the french citizens are waiting for a and the bins must drawers. i mean, the, the visitors out and you go this dream, right? assume last there with a made it even more difficult to function. so i think that so at the lead, and my me, my calling takes a high risk, bought the 1st of all, it is a, is nature as that going to be the right way of asking for the funds to use as to whether you want. they spend ride in government. oh, they want that every form. uh, i mean a national assembly. we scary out reform in another way. so i think that the, this time to clarify the situation. mike crow told his team off to the results came in. i prefer a writing history rather than submitting to it. doesn't that suggest that this is

a last ditch effort to do something, anything to re gain political authority because the results have been quite a slap in his face ave. and those are the, as i say, i can also be spying a mcgraw only. the one was being that every liked it. why is the beating that they, they, they stay and fight it, disagree at that that he doesn't want to, to submit to the then say was what they care for. they do go to the ship even do is one of the party to go the initiative, which i eat. so the, it was useful to take because you disagree. i repeat that. and the french revolt there's, uh, i've shown this that this function ending patients. uh, the satisfaction that means that they belong to the solution of morris more effective sort of shows you patients that they want the things to happen. either

the one know the out, the need, the effectiveness. no, i mean uh the faucet fastness would be a show out by the national assembly as it stands now. so i think that that he was right there to ask for a democratic uh joyce. uh and the to do it quickly because the discounts we cannot afford to do, i already made a mistake made that for a long time. so what you're saying basically is that he's trying to reboot the struggling presidency on a policy that had to limp along without an overall majority and problem. and so it was 2022. a i think is a, is a, is it will be sending through the volt, the us, uh, and the voltage that is say, we want things to happen. and the, the debate that during this, it will be on the leisure. and these are afraid. you the mentors go to the focus of the debate on very yeah, you won't be any issues because the lives we donated by purchasing power by

security a by you should that belong, get through the nation. i was via and belong to the confidence of the national that assemblies. but what matters, i'm thinking can what makes, what makes him think he can reach the voters in 3 weeks when he's had 2 years in bond. he hasn't managed to reach them. and that time, what i mean most of all, uh we, we that we, that we can see what the goal is, the 15 to 20 percent of voters which was decided to abstain as it will be on the ledge, on what day we decide to do. and so that going to be, if we let ask to the vote does whether they really want that it, it, they stream right in government to take on the responsibilities or if they want to give a clear majority to use a reformist project, do they uh, we don't have a majority to this room, right,

but we don't have even even the majority for the presidential, much for the presidential. a question. and this is why we are struggling. and these, why the national, that assembly is basically brought it to the being told that he borrowed ised after the selection. so, i mean, it took all our lives that we couldn't do. it could be power lies, think it would be a good be a money. it is, it is a difference of what the, what would we decide is it started off. i mean, everybody must take on the is the only responsibilities, even with this mistake on that responsibility that this, that this value that, that in patient that with this situation, they will have to decide whether they want to give a majority to the president or they want to give much, i'll do this to him, right. president macro has 3 is left in office. if this policy does less than expected in the parliamentary elections, my team resign. i don't think so because the french a vote as, as really decided that they wanted him. eh, for an out of the 5 yesterday,

i mean 20 to 22. so i, i think that nobody is damaged goods. politically is as it is really play on popular president. let's face of the preventative already made the choice about the, about the price it in the most made that you always about the how we spotted them and they want. and the problem is we skim out after the victory of president my growing brain going to do was it was at bonham. and the way out it was very difficult for legislate very difficult to work out concrete and effective sort of shows. and now we would see where the on the side and they'll do that. i differentiate, we decided to weigh in much more effective, the national nice of it, and on around around which browser, if macro himself doesn't go, could somebody in his government decide to jump ship a while? i mean, i yeah, i don't see a anybody now wanting to get out of the presidential team. i think that the or that

he does that clearly declare that the they wanted to are united that the, it disagree or that they just, they are huge. and the there is need for you and young in the presidential majority as far as the foundation of the party do a process that you disagree at that, that there is a, a democratic prizes. and there is the need also to reform the way democracy and politics organized. and these are the subsidies team that it didn't finish and fall . i mean we, they could be a majority of the work on the rock. social answer that i can only gas was, but that also issues around the democratic, but the supervision i want, i want to talk about reforms a, a bit later on and, and pressed you a bit on that. but so i'm wondering how much monitoring there is inside present. macro is proud to one of his own outgoing and peace of mind. you'll pay the set everything points to the national riley winning a relative or absolute majority. so that's a pessimistic view of, uh,

how this selection will end up as well as the should that scheme should i ask the hon. not the not me? i didn't, i didn't they, i didn't think i made this big issue. yeah. make the duration on you made it. i think that the, the, the up through the open ended thing that the, it, this time uh, i repeat for responsibility for the charges for everybody is absolutely not true. that the, as the input you to be on an ad showing that was that a way be in favor of national, right, right. national riley, this must be confirmed that adds a just that the reaction of the, the issue would be completely different. the money left manage on that by the law. we'd have to clearly say, well this was the project for from c's. it's very unclear to me today, and i think it through the they enter the l so well the for the friends will, does each other as shown. it is a story, a bar. and i think that's what we have to do is to prepare and to, i mean,

the do, the about 30 needs goes to jersey. they showed, i'll do that, you open i o both. so that the so called demographic forces, which they call and the response that we did before, especially after the election. eh, because i don't think that they seem right that showed the scan. can you see present of micro sharing power and what the french go co habitation with a prime minister from the far right from the national riley. i think that as any progress then before he met it, we laughed at accept the the results of the election. any resolved the, i mean be what, what that are there is a which that what they were there is that would be, it does happen to me to home because i've been to she ok. i hope you're doing that, but do my client i opened that the that would be the majority for for the president at bach, the, i mean not a reset that he applied the constitution. mister godfrey to listen to some of

a do related pronouncements from around europe. some people seem to be changing these results as a cataclysmic shop for the rise of the far right. there's no surprises. it was full cost and illustrated by falls around the you for a very long time. so. so why the surprise, the scale of the victory? i think it on one hand, this gate because i mean on the object, the ground very high and the mounting let been box the, the 1st bought the demo, barked in to the, in the, in the european parliament. so stuff that you disagree at that there is a, is a, it'd be to victory for then i would say that's more because the, because for us is a key country for the european integration. and it's not the found the men best, but that's be not always the most new brand shut down to the to get that was germany. and you guys always manage sofa, the rock,

the rise of the screen right differently, for example, for me to a and the, to see now that the they stream right. could see that by why in the, in the national problem. and it is so totally shocked, not all in berries about the round europe. i understand it is i think for the started going to use us and for the key role that false. and that especially now in mind with mcroy is played. see, is that brand to 17? let's look here. we may add why voters have to, to the far right. so many of them, in fact, deputy president of the commission very, you're all of a sudden on this program last month said centers. politicians haven't done enough to offer an alternative to the right to send the right to europe and people's party lead a mindful of vapors. and part of the problem was we can lead those like macro and schultz who no longer had widespread public support. those are pretty serious indictments. do you agree with that? you know, i don't agree. i don't agree with the month of the day,

but when the say that the macro exec, bi, weekly, the, and the as shown, even in the it's very difficult to encourage a decision. that is, that you cannot, again, i have uh, the other, the ford bus certainly doesn't like and either lead the sheep. no, no, no, uh, no, of course. but the and shouts are being polling around 1617 percent. that's it. that's not much in the way of public support, is that what i mean? i think that's what i see the, the exciting already started for you to about leaving. let's go see that that, that we are getting down the web. we've got out the offset and then make we, uh, leaving them in the theater with the war, you know, crane with bob buddies which has come back to in the middle east that we saw at the end for us be much better than another county. instead of a 5 d, a gauge inflation and keeping the pool jersey bow off of c, cuz that stuff goes to a most boss dealer at the end as it rises as heated. also this gantry uh there is

a fee. uh, there is a sense of the fee. uh there is a sentiment of a certainty around europe and it is set then set set dement fee. uh. so the thing that the we just few of these stream, right, they offer easy to take. so no show about the inefficient as total shots and that so this is a walk, this benefit thing that you might view, but pretty smooth mind. and the stream right, the moment around, around the guns and the is why we have to accelerate the response. this boat that mentioned that about i would say, especially at your yeah, i live in from blonde for bay, but i would respect that it must have more active role. there will be on people's body in promote the reform at your be able to do you not saying that traditional centers potters have become just a little bit too complacent to self satisfied there's and there's some truth in the i don't the, i don't, there we go. nice, my cell phone does recognize the you, you are, but as a, as a set of, uh,

satisfaction on the group. but we have been very active about being always pretty ah, step is 5 because you want it to things that go faster and go and go and go to a demo freeform, especially at europe young level. i would say that the we have always show uh, showing the ride sensitive origin. see it disagree at that the we haven't the, the, the friends problem and no idea will be on the bottom and found that the, at the, it is that the f share the same sense. so for just see and the same with offering for me even eat, but i say i would say that the we have achieved the import that resolves that are producing the right the fact all good to be not fast enough. the foldable this and that will be on that actions. i mean, why is that? i mean, be you as an organization that never stops asking people what it should be doing and holding consultations about his role. so why did it listen to the criticisms, to many people was saying that they felt disenfranchised. left find,

i'm consulted. and they said so they didn't like immigration policies, the state of the economy, especially in germany on the far right, said it would fix all the problems. it's hardly surprising them at large numbers. tons of them is it because those problems weren't being fixed even after they had been signed, posted pretty adequately by people over and over again in the well, if it take migration, we have uh off the 9 in itself, this joshua negotiations, the state made that we have the manage, the 2 adults, the end is auto migration back that which gives us a good fact of the answers that a citizen i waiting for because citizens wants to take back control 1000 to date. they controlled on migration to take control on the o as then on board as to as a more efficient, streamlined as item procedure to be effective and very thorough. and, but the countries that don't really watch it that i mean hungry has rejected that

problem. those rejected the migration packed up the, the wrong, the board on that, on getting out to the wrong go migration says 201420158 does not take rest and nobody's thrown right or not. i mean, the tooth was wrong on migration in 2015. and i mean, it's not because out again, that the right finally we have managed to adopt what is the role shown, which is the right sort of, we shouldn't on migration on those. they don't disagree. i, we have adopted 3 months ago. obviously they've all of this that didn't that feed the effect about something they are the mass by and by the way, they stream, right? when they are in the position. i like my mind that then they will, they gave the solution, but whether i can government, they count on our solutions. mister godfrey, you, you have said the, you need some more democracy. some have already asserted that these european elections prove that point. but there was nothing i'm democratic about the was the

190000000 people there about got a free vote in 27 countries, no voting irregularities, no fraud. as far as we know, the system isn't on democratic just because you don't like the result. is it up? so it turns out that the system is the demographic but must be ruled. why? because even in this case the in the select shows we have back, but they've got the we were like the, it's going to $9005.00 a month. we have got much more 27 national debates, a fire 3 or most 3 on domestic issues rather than europe. the not just nation debate on what your should do should and don't, should do less. so should do more. and i think that the, these are the by adults, we are the only one in the, in the ward where like the going to end up going to the end, it going to the bottom it. but we continue to do so through 27 national debate.

these why we propose that we have propose that there will be on 5. i meant to elect that and number of member of that will be on the bottom and voting dollar 3 they you young party to go box is because that would be a elite dirtiest tournament book. trouble in may, jo, change? well let's, let's have a look at some of the changes that the may come as a result of a what we've seen so far, the surge of the far right. they will have significant momentum as a result of that, the gains in the, in the parliament. i'm wondering how they will use it. it's germany's institute for international fast says, european politics are going to get more problems arising, more politicized. i'm more populous. which policies do you think will be most affected by the changes? well, what if possible? i would say that the using both of these are be on the bottom and going to the i might, it's pro european majority and the non boss on the, on our side. because that if you were to get the seats of renewal offer the young

people spiked, you know, the social demo. got. they got to move the $400.00 out. those 720. so i think that the 1st that we showed the goal fee amount, it pro european majority 2nd set that will be the extreme right. that might, that be effective in the trying to grow? some specifically, this vision that really depend a mainly on the attitude on this specific business of the europe. young people spot the like the green deal, like the green deal, for instance, i would say i yeah. also or the on the green dean. the issue now is to find the resources we've been and did. i don't think that we have but the like the war gonzalez's vision. i think that it's so thank you for it. let's just do for him. we'll get there. now we have to focus on the resources to find them. they are being done as ition. i would say that the, the main issue. but what about ukraine? what about the assistance to ukraine? weapons, ammunition got. i mean, i, i, that i, i,

old but that we, we continue to take a very strong pro grain, you know, stances on that, that it would be this room right. there is a lot of i meet with the there's a lot of support must go, isn't that among the battles and then run for money in that bad. and the going to complicates the use assistance to you? great, isn't it? i don't think so because the around the table in the accounts did where the government job, i would say that there is the, the, a very large majority in favor, of course doing the support degrade set. the lead in some votes was going to be on the bottom and if they assume ride golf seemed that pro proper the spouse is that things that would be more complicated. but once again, i see that we should put that we should put the support to brain as well, the highest priority together with the fans in the new uh, the m on the role europe,

deanna groups. and that will be on the bottom. you've talked about the need for reform, which we've heard for years. you also want to bring in majority voting on all major issues, but the smaller countries and never got to agree to that of it. it's an all the start to well, no, because the, the boss that we have managed to allowed the, the majority voting good. not to be spending that well, the fact that there was the always being that is more that down to the doubt that in the union they, they, the issue is that the disagree at that the, even the, from a less a be down to is more of gantries a you have to make up your mind a cannot be in favor of the unified, they've gone through the end of the opening the door. so to create and you know, the west and bog down. and at the same time, to resist the, the majority of all team because the, to the said do not, cannot, are incompatible. the more we are, the more efficient must be the voting get there,

but with the system. and also, you know, around that they bring that down say that it's not that when you vote the by majority your, your pose, your decisions are the minority. when everybody knows that, that the, at the end of the day, we can vote by majority. everybody make the effort to, to bring the contribution and to reach a conclusion when it, well i've gotten to know that it can be though it doesn't make any effort to look at the organ at all with song show the gays thrush. so i think that these are easily the, in just a space show you of this more accounted because the big guns is some guys can do on their old smart was more gun 3 needs so that the immobile for the more effective union mister, got say the president of the european commission, those are the fund the lie and says the center is holding. she comforts herself

with that sort. but you have the 2 big leaders of europe, president, mackerel, and john. so the shouts of germany really fighting to regain some kind of momentum . john, so shouts his party was beaten, adjust the price by the christian democrats, and the far right. a if the 2 big leaders struggling to hold onto the careers, what effect is that going to have on europe? well i think that the now we, i but they then they, they, they key role that we have, they keep debate with be within that will be a problem. because the disagree or that the you, that you will be on the bottom. i mean, we must be that, but this not new pro european majority and this probably or be a majority cause even if the, if they were all for is that i wanted a lie and provide you that she doesn't want to. she doesn't open the door that you stream, right? delta v c a e c, and the of the one the end the,

the key point. i think that the but it could just me more. deadlock will delays in committee proceedings more holdups, it could power lies. there. you are pen palling, but these results come that know they quoted it because they don't have the numbers . and by the scale that they, we depend on the error as possible that did all the 3 main forces. i repeat your young people's bought this social democrat, them to renew or europe. i think that we should open also our majority degrees provided that they get the more problematic approach. also that the issues are the dorky, especially on the all the green transition. but they think that there is a possibility of having get a stable into effect the majority because and the, the good aspect of this resides the ad. there is a, there isn't the possibility of a stream, right? do i have that much on it? is i mean, but the do depend on the attitude and on the can system action of the 3 main

forces. all right. sounds i've got say that seems to be asking a lot. thank you very much for being on complex on, appreciate your thank you the, the, the

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