is edited in without me the a surgeon support profile right. policies in the european elections are sent tramos across the continent. not more powerful than those heating, congress and berlin for the policies of both leaders for trunk by far. right. the opponents. i guess this week your central got the outgoing member of the european parliament in president macros when they saw this list, how risky is macros? decision to coal snap elections in front? and when he resigned it for fall, right, with the majority center i've got to you're welcome to come pick some thank you for revising. are you looking you was this morning?

well, i mean, it said that we are not satisfied with the results. and either it's your be a lie that no, it's friends, whoever bought the, the positive you sure that the we asked did the bad i think in to spend several to promo the i while you will be on the browser. even the sound, the president, macro and supporters are saying that his goal for snap elections is a high risk strategy. but it's worse than that. isn't that when you call elections at the same time as you have a 65 percent disapproval rating? it's a leap into the dock, isn't it? well, i mean, i don't think that the we, we, we, we should drama die is a democratic moment. it is to be at that the situation with which as a marriage the at through a vote and that will be on them as shown, largely influenced by domestic issues. is that the reason need to clarify that

for the to go situation in browser already did, the national assembly was struggling to function properly. fives, drug is right. mean to find that those going to be so to wish us that the french citizens are waiting for a and then bins must war. uh, i mean the like the best to resolve the go this stream right. assume last there with a made it even more difficult to function. so i think that so at the lead and my, me, my call and takes a high risk. but the 1st of all, it is a, is nature as that going to be the right way of asking for the front seat as to whether you want. they spend right in government. oh, they want that every form a a. i mean a national assembly. we scary out reform in another way. so i think that the, this time to clarify the situation. mike crow told his team off to the results came in. i prefer a writing history rather than submitting to it. doesn't that suggest that this is

a last ditch effort to do something, anything to re gain political authority because the results have been quite a slap in his face of him by those are the as i say, i can also be spying my girl. only the one was being that every liked it. why is the beating that they they, they streamed, fight, it disagree at that the $8000.00 want to submit to the then say was what they get 40 to go to the ship even. do is one of the party to go the initiative, which i eat. so the, it was useful to take, because you disagree. i repeat that. and the french revolt there's, uh, i've shown this that this function ending patients. uh, these are this fashion. that means that they want to add the solution o morris more effective sort of shows you patients that they want the things to happen. either the one know the out, the need, the effectiveness. no, i mean uh,

the faucet, the fastness would be issued by the national assembly as it stands now. so i think that that he was right there to ask for a democratic uh joyce. uh and the to do it quickly because the discounts we cannot afford to do, i already made a mistake made that for a long that. so what you're saying basically is that he's trying to reboot the struggling presidency on the policy that is had to limp along without an overall majority and problem. and so it was 2022 i think is a, is a, is a, be sending to the voters and the vote. does the say we want things to happen and the, the debate that during this interview on the measuring these that were afraid you the manage to keep the focus of the debate on the re, uh you will be on issues. because of that, i have to be dominated by protecting file, by security,

by you should that belong to the nation. i was via and belong to the confidence of the national the assemblies. but what matters, i'm st. keegan. what makes what makes him think he can reach the voters in 3 weeks when he's had 2 years in bonnie as managed to reach them. and that time, what i mean, 1st of all, uh we, we, that we, that we can see what the goal is, the 15 to 20 percent of voters which was decided to abstain as it will be on the ledge, on what day we decide to do. and so going to the, if we let ask the vote does whether they really want a that it, it, they stream right in government to take on the responsibilities or if they want to give it to the majority to ease a reformist project. today we don't, they have a majority to this room, right? but we don't have even even the majority for the presidential,

much for the presidential. a question. and this is why we are struggling. and these, why the national, the assembly is basically go to the bean book, but he borrowed eyes off the selection. so i mean, it all our lives down. yeah. you couldn't do it. could be power lies because that would be a good be. i'm money. it is, it is a difference of what the, what would would decide is it started off. i mean, everybody must take on the is the only responsibilities, even with as much they go on that responsibility that this up, despite the doubting patient that with this situation, they will have to decide whether they want to give the majority to the president or they want to give much, i'll do this to him, right. president macro has 3 is left in office. if this policy does less than expected and the parliamentary elections, my team resign. i don't think so because the french a vote as, as really decided that they wanted him. eh, for an out of the 5 yesterday, i mean 20 to 22. so i,

i think that that was damaged goods. politically isn't as it is or this is really play on popular president. that's face of the preventative already made the choice about the, about the president. they must me that you always about the how we spotted them and they want. and the problem is we skim out after the 30 of president my growing brain going to do was it was at bonham. and the way out it was very difficult for legislate very difficult to walk out concrete and effective sort of shows. and now we would see where the on the 7th of july, the french we decided to add it much more effective the national assembly and on around, around which browser, if macro himself doesn't go, could somebody in his government decide to jump ship a while, i mean, i yeah, i don't see a anybody now wanting to get out of the presidential team. i think that the for that he does that clearly declare that the they wanted to are united that

the disagree or that they just, they are huge. and there is need for union in the presidential majority as far as the foundation of the party do a project you disagree or that, that there is a, a democratic crisis. and there is the need also to reform the way democracy in politics organized. and these are the subsidies team that it didn't fish and bottom, that means we, they could be a majority who work on their, our social answer that i can only guess was by that also issues around the demographic. but the suspicion i want, i want to talk about reforms a, a bit later on and, and press you a bit on that. but so i'm wondering how much mom are. and there is insight. present macro is proud to one of his own outgoing and peace of mind. you pay over said everything points to the national rally, winning a relative or absolute majority. so that's a pessimistic view of, uh,

how this selection will end up as well as the should that scheme should i say that the ha, not the not me. i didn't, i didn't, i didn't think i made this big operation. yeah. make the duration on you made it. i think that the, the, the up through the open ended thing that the, it, this time a, i repeat full responsibility for the charges for everybody is absolutely not true that the, as the in the, you to be on that as shown there. was that a way be in favor of national? right, right. national riley. this must be confirmed that adds a just that the will actually on the the issue would be completely different. the money left, then a job done by the law. would i have to clearly say, well, these well the projects or from sees it's very unclear to me today, and i think it through the they enter the l so well the for the friends will, does not equal as shown. it is a story, a bar, and i think that's what we have to do is to prepare and to, i mean, the do,

the about 30 needs goes to jersey. they showed, i'll do that, you open i o both. so that the so called demographic forces. we've been going there is possibility before, especially after the election, eh, because i don't think that they seem right that showed the scan. can you see present the micro sharing power and what the french co co habitation with a prime minister from the far right from the national riley. i think that as any progress then before he met, if we let it accept that the results of the election, any resolved, the, i mean be whatever there is a, which i will say that there is. that would be because i happen to meet at home because i've been to shock, i hope you're doing that. but to my client, i opened that the they would be the majority for, for the president at bach, the, i mean not a reset that he applied the constitution. mister godfrey to listen to some of a do related pronouncements from around europe. some people seem to be teaching

these results as a cataclysmic shop for the rise of the far right. there's no surprises, it did was full cost and illustrated by pose around to you for a very long time. so so why the surprise, the scale of the victory? i think it on one hand, this gate because i mean on the object the ground is very high and the money let been bought the you the false bought the them of barked in to the, in the, in the european parliament. so effectively, you disagree at that there is a, is a, it'd be good victory for then i would say that more because the, because for us is a key country for the european integration. and also it's not the found, the men bestbuy this be not always the most new brand shut down to the to get that was germany. and you guys always manage. so 5 to brock, the rise of this thing right differently if for example, for me to a and the,

to see now that the they stream right. could see that by why in the, in the national problem. and it is so totally shocked, not all in berries about the round europe. i understand it is i think for historical reasons and for the key role that false and that especially now i'm under mcroy is played. see is that brand to 70? let's look here for a med why both to is have to to the far right. so many of them in fact, deputy president of the you commission very, you're all of a sudden on this program last month with suntrust. politicians haven't done enough to offer an alternative to the right to send the right to european people's party lead a month for the very best. and part of the problem was we can lead those like macro and schultz who no longer had widespread public support. those are pretty serious indictments. do you agree with that? you know, i don't agree. i don't agree with the month of the day. but when we say that the

macro is like bi weekly, the, and the as shown, even in the, it's very difficult to encourage a decision that is, that you cannot, again, i have uh, the other, the ford bus certainly doesn't like and either lead the sheep, no no, no, no, of course, but the and shouts are being polling around 1617 percent. that's it. that's not much in the way of public support. is that what i mean? i think that's why i see the, the a starting already started going to be the leading. let's go see that, that, that we are getting out the web. we've got out of it and then make we, uh it, in a, in a theater with the wor, no crane with bad values, which has come back to in the middle east that we saw at the end for us be much better than another county. instead of a 5 d, a gauge inflation and keeping the port jersey bow off of c, cuz that stuff goes to a most boss dealer at the end. as you drive this as heated also this gantry uh there is a fee. uh there you just sent it out to a fee. uh there was

a sentiment of a certainty around you and it is set then set set dement fee. uh, so the thing that the, we just few of the stream, right, they offer easy to take solution about the inefficient solutions and that, so this is a walk this benefit the in game i view a property smooth month. and they stream right to move month around, around the guns and the is why we have to accelerate the responses both that mentioned that about i would say, especially at your yeah, i live in from blonde for a bay, but i would respect a master more active role group, young people, sparky in, promote the reform at europe. yeah. that, do you not think the traditional centers potters have become just a little bit too complacent to self satisfied? isn't there some truth in the i don't the, i don't 30 go nice myself and the nice uh you, you are, but as a, as a set of, uh, satisfaction on the group. but we have been very active about being always pretty

honest up is 5 because you wanted to things that go faster and go and go and go to a demo freeform, especially at europe young level. i would say that the we have always show the showing the ride sense of origin. see it disagree at that the we haven't the need, the friends problem and no idea will be on the bottom and found that the, at the, it is that the f share the same sense. so for just see and the same with offering for me even eat, but i say i would say that the we have achieved the import that resolves that are producing the right the fact august to be not fast enough. the foldable this and that will be on the nations. why is that? i mean, be you as an organization that never stops asking people what it should be doing and holding consultations about his role. so why did it listen to the criticisms, to many people was saying that they felt disenfranchised. left find,

i'm consulted. and they said so they didn't like immigration policies, the state of the economy, especially in germany on the far right, said it would fix all the problems. it's hardly surprising them at large numbers. tons of them is it because those problems weren't being fixed even after they had been signed, posted pretty adequately by people over and over again. and the well, if you take migration, we have uh off the 9 in itself, this joshua negotiations, the state made the uh, we have the manage, the 2 adults, the a and his auto migration back that which gives us a good box of the answers that the seat is not waiting for because he does as wants to take back control 1000 that they control on migration to take control on the o as then on board as to as a more efficient streamlined as item procedure to be effective and very thorough. but the country is the right to that. i mean hungry has rejected. that problem does

rejected the migration packed up the, the wrong, the board on that, on getting out to the wrong go migration says 201420158 does not take west and nobody's terminated or not. i mean, the tooth was wrong on migration in 2015. and i mean, it's not because out against the right. finally we have managed to adopt what it is . so rules on which is the right sort of, we should on migration on those. they don't disagree. i, we have adopted 3 months ago. obviously they're both those that didn't that feed the effect about something they are the master. and by the way, they stream, right when they are in the position. i like my mind that then they will, they gave the solution. but whether i can government, they count on our solutions. mister godfrey, you, you have said the, you need some more democracy. some have already asserted that these european elections prove that point. but there was nothing i'm democratic about the was the

190000000 people there about got a free vote in 27 countries, no voting irregularities, no fraud. as far as we know, the system is non democratic just because you don't like the result. is it up? so it turns out that the system is the demographic but must be abroad. why? because even in this case the in the select shows we have back, but they've got the we were like the, it's going to $9005.00 a month. we have got much more 27 national debates, a fire 3 or most 3 on domestic issues rather than the europe. the not just nation or the debate on wat europe should, don't shoot and don't, should do less. so should do more. and i think that these are the, by adults, we are the only one in the, in the ward. but like they're going to end up going to the end, the continental environment. but we continue to do so through 27 national debate. these why we propose that we, i propose that there will be on 5. i meant to act that

a number of member of that would be on the bottom and voting dollars. they utilize the 40 to go boxes because that would be a lead story is to remain for approval in may jo change? well let's, let's have a look at some of the changes that the may come as a result of a what we've seen so far. the surge of the far right, they will have significant momentum as a result of the gains in the, in the parliament. i'm wondering how they, what we use is germany's institute for international affairs, says european politics are going to get more problems arising, more politicized and more populous. which policies do you think will be most affected by the changes? well, what if, what's a phone? i would say that the it, these inputs under there would be on file i'm going to be, i might, it's probably it'll be a majority and a non boss on the, on our side. because that if you were to get the seats of renewal at all for the young people spiked, you know, this was

a demo. got. they got to more than $400.00 out of $720.00. so i think that the 1st that we showed the gold fee amount, it brought your majority. so that concept that the, the extreme right that might, that be effective in the trying to grow some specifically this vision that really depend a mainly on the attitude on this specific business of the europe. young people spot the like the green deal, like the green deal, for instance, i would say, yeah. also or the on the green dean. the issue now is to find the resources we've been mandate. i don't think that we have but the like the war gonzalez's vision. i think that it's so thank you for it. let's just a different and we'll get there. now we have to focus on the resources to find them . they, it would be the investigation. i would say that the, the main issue, but what about ukraine? what about the assistance to ukraine? weapons, ammunition got. i mean, i, i, that i, i, old,

but that we, we continue to take a very strong pro grain, you know, stances on that, that it would be this stream right there. is it all up and be with the there's no support for moscow. isn't that among the battles and then run for money in that bad and this is going to complicate the use assistance to ukraine, isn't that i don't think so, because the around the table in the accounts did where the government dob, i would say that the receipt of a very large majority in favor, of course doing this report grade set. the lead in some votes is going to be on the bottom and either assume ride golf. seeing that pro with the proper the spouse is that things that would be more complicated. but once again, i see that we should put that we should put that the support the brain as well. the highest priority together with the fans in the new uh, the m on the role you to be on the groups. it'll be on the bottom. you've talked

about the need for reform, which we've heard for years. you also want to bring in majority voting on all major issues. but the smaller countries are never going to agree to that of it. it's an old start to well, no, because the, the boss that we have managed to allowed the, the majority voting good. not to be spending that well, the fact that they will the always be not, is more that down to the now that ended up. yeah. you and yeah, and they, they, they usually that the disagree or that the, even the, from a less a be down to is more a gantries a you have to make up your mind. you cannot be in favor of the unified, they've gone through the end of the opening the door. so to create, you know, the west and bog down. and at the same time, to resist the, the majority vote team because the 2 things that do not kind of are incompatible. the more we are, the more efficient must be the voting get. they both the system and also, you know,

around that they bring that down and see that it's not that when you vote the by majority, you'll impose your decisions with the minority. when everybody knows that the, at the end of the day, we can vote by majority, everybody make the effort to, to bring the contribution and to reach a conclusion when it was gotten to know that it can be though it doesn't make any effort to look at the organ at all with sandra the gays to russia. so i think that these are usually the just, especially with this more accounted because the big guns is some guys can do on their old smart has more gun 3 needs so deadly and more power for the more effective union. mister got say the president of a european commission, those sort of on the lie and says the center is holding. she comforts herself with that sort. but you have the 2 big lead is if you're a president macro and john,

so the shouts of germany really fighting to regain some kind of momentum. john, so shouts, his party was beaten into that place by the christian democrats and the far right. a if the 2 big leaders struggling to hold onto the careers, what effect is that going to have on europe? i think that the now we, i but they then they, the key role that we had, they keep debate with be within that will be a problem. because you disagree at that the, you, that you will be on problem and we must be that. but this, nope, new pro european majority and destroyer be a majority cause even if they were all foods that i wanted to lie and provide you that she doesn't want to, she doesn't open the door. the extreme right delta v c c. and of those are made on the end the they keep going. i think that the but it could just me more. deadlock

will delays in committee proceedings more holdups, it could power lies the european parliament. these results come that know they quote on it because they don't have the numbers. and by the scale that they read depends on the area, it's possible that to do the 3 main forces. i repeat your young people's back, this was a demo, got them to renew or europe. i think that we should open also our majority degrees provided that they get the more problematic approach all side, the issues or the dorky, especially on the all the green transition. but they think that there is a possibility of having get a stable into effect. the majority of the goals and the, the good aspect of this resides the ad. there is a, there isn't the possibility of a stream right where the majority is stormy. but the do depend on the attitude and don't be consistent action of the 3 main forces. all right,

sounds i've got say that seems to be asking a lot. thank you very much for being on complex on, appreciate your thank you the, the, the,

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