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the the, you're watching due to the news coming to life from berlin, joe biden. and donald trump go head to ahead and the 1st the last presidential debates. i wasn't really going to run until i saw the horrible job you did. the kids had loss of the step, 90 minutes of insults, trunk falls as a faltering performance from joe biden. that's less the democrats and doing damage control. also coming up on our show today, e u leaders and door supports for the funder lion for a 2nd term. as commission president of the confirmation vote in the european parliament could be close. and iranians go to the polls to elect
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a new president after the death of abraham. right? you see, last month one reform us candidate is against 3 cars liners. will hear what his chances are the i'm clear, richardson, a warm welcome to the show, joe biden. and donald trump have faced off at the 1st presidential debate ahead of november's elections. it was a heated showdown between the 2 oldest presidential candidates ever with each man of choosing the other of being on fit for office. biden often stumbled in his answers and his voice was raspy. well, trump repeatedly ignore the moderators questions as made of false statements. just to give you an idea, here's an example from last night's exchange. yeah, we've covered, excuse me, with dealing with everything we have to do with
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a to walk if we finally b, medicare taken president and president trump was right. he did beat medicaid beat it to death on the to do the total initiative relative to what we're going to do with more border control and more asylum of present drunk. i really don't know what he said at the end of this is, i don't think he knows what he said. either look to have these benjamin albert escobar covered this debate for us from washington. i asked him if biden's performance would re assure voters that he is up to the job. so not really well, president bind himself things he did well in the database. many spotty, see that differently. it was it biden's most important job to put to rest, voters concerns about his age, but he definitely felt it to do so. he fumbled on many topics. some of them very important. and for the democrats in this use elections like abortion. well,
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some analysts set that this debate sent shock waves through the democratic party. the debate organize us is cnn chose the following title. on his own page, it reads and i quoted biden's poor showing and trumps repeated fall. so it's, and the fact that the general focus and discussion right now is name on the 1st part of the titles and not the 2nd part is already a huge window for donald trump. so you have to wonder what american voters are making of all this. our team in washington got reactions from democrats and republicans after the debate the oh, i think the democratic party is going to read alarm at the democratic convention for sure. i don't know if they're going to keep president biden as their candidate. i think this was a disaster for him from the moment it started to the moment,
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the end date. i mean, he was a disaster. let's get some analysis of that debate from the you the, the mom she is a political science researcher at the university of bremen in germany. welcome to the show. i want to ask 1st, what you made of this debates? what did you make of biden? and trump's performances, so thank you for having me. um, this is definitely a very eventful lives in the united states. and what the fallout from this will be, especially on the democratic side, we'll have to see in the next couple of days when i can say that in some regards. this debate has been absolutely remarkable. i'm a jewish will at terms of the 2 candidates and an incumbent, and then the former president, facing off for the 2nd time. and also having one of the candidates of the 2 major parties who is a convicted felon and who have still several acute he says, pending against him. one of them were several of them actually relating to the last
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attempt to overturn the 2020 election in which the 2 candidates ran against each other. um, at the same time, this particular event was run in a way that didn't really account for these extraordinary circumstances. so it was not as if we have 2 candidates from the 2 major parties who are regular partisans presenting competing of policy proposals and not competing visions offered gallery. and that's what we saw. so that is, i think, remarkable. and there is this strong disconnect between the actual situation and the way that the, the traditional form of our are carried out. so traditional format, just by extraordinary circumstances. and the question with these tv debates, always how big of a difference will they make? we still got 4 months ago until the election. so this one coming quite early. do you think it will influence swing voters? so yes, you're right this, this debate was extraordinary early. we have another one schedule. it is still kind
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of an open question. is the candidate trunk will actually also joins the 2nd debate . so we'll have to wait and see um until september. um, based generally are important for voters, voters are interested, the voters say these, the dates are traditionally useful for them and making the decisions, but they're not determinative. also we have to see that most voters, especially also spring motors in the swing states undecided voters of voters who have a low level of information not have the resources. the time is better to follow the news on a daily basis. and for them, it is important to get gather information and still most of the voters will not watch the debate from start to finish, but rather have in for or get information from only clips from sound bites from the debates of work that are, that are circulated on social media, for example,
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or they get their information from a commentators from pundits who have narrative approval on who lost the debate, the cetera. so it will be important for them to gather information that's usually that's not done like in a holistic, complete manner with regards to the database of the brother or from any of them be of by of social media, take talk, etc, where we find disorder clips and so we've, we've heard democrats will be thinking seriously about their campaign after last night's performance. i'm curious. so just briefly, if you could, how much you think this is likely to increase support for donald trump? yes, i think generally borders partisans on both sides or, or have become increasingly loyal. and i think this is especially true for, for donald trump. so true, donald trump, virus supporters will not be changed or their opinions won't be changed even though
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it is that the most statements are many, many statements that trump may have were factually incorrect where of demonstrably demonstrably false. but still they will usually stick with their candidate know may be true. the debates trip trump was even able to redeem himself to a certain expense because there was not a lot of questions with regard to the way he has or of his trials. for example, his role in joining were 60 cetera. so he might have been able to redeem himself also on policy issues with regard to 2 dogs. for example, he has been able to show a face that is less radical in many ways. and that might actually, or to which swing voters independence might actually respond in his so in any case, well, thank you so much for joining us with your insights today. that's political science research or really as the one i think, university of freeman here much and important here to get the
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perspective from here in europe, we're drawing to now why are correspondent rosie burkhard and brussels rosie? has there been reaction in brussels to this presidential debate? so far as well when joe biden was 1st select as president a few years ago, you could almost hear sighs of relief from european leaders all the way across the atlantic. this morning. here in europe, i think it's much more of a sense of a really sharp nervous intake of breath. i'm not is because you leaders have been through donald trump presidency before and for them. i think this one word to sum it up and that is unpredictable. there were all sorts of strains, transatlantic relations under total trump, including for example, on trade ties. i'm with the possibility of for 2nd donald trump presidency looming . you leaders are really having to think about concerns around, for example, their own defense and security. something which they've traditionally relied on the us and so much so that there's been one word on the lips of different lots here in
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europe for the last few months and not in speed trump proofing. there are measures underway in europe to try and boost you repeat autonomy to not be at the mercy of the flames. all 4 codes be unpredictable. president joe biden, on the other hand, is very much seen as a known quantity predictable, certainly in his foreign policy, at least. so you, we does, i think we'll have quite a lot of nervous months ahead. they were already in talks well into the night here in brussels, so this morning, very little to help them sweep suddenly until those crowds criminal critical us alexis later this year. and is there a consensus on that? is there support for joe biden, among most or all you leaders as well? i think it's important to say what the leaders would say officially is that this is a choice for the american people, but it's not up to them to comment on who americans should vote for. but i think it's clear to say that most you leaders are very much wary over 2nd donald trump
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presidency. whether it's because of their concerns about what that mean for what might mean for the rule of law, for example, or what it might mean for their own defense. but there is key outlier, and that is how gary and prime minister victor, oregon. he is often always with the rest of his fellow leaders on, on this to he is very much has to be in the past stridently, pro trump, so not for the 1st time. there is somewhat of a division among the leaders on this topic. thank you. so much that is our correspondent, rosie bernhard and brussels and saying, and brussels where you leaders have met to nominate candidates for the blocks top positions. they've endorsed ortho left under line for a 2nd term as president of the european commission. so as tony and prime minister kaya colors is likely to become the use next, foreign policy chief and former portuguese prime minister antonio costa has been appointed as new head of the european council or slough on july and later thanks
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e leaders for their backend. and what plane and simply like to express my gratitude to the leaders when doors my i'm normally nation for a 2nd mandate as president of the european commission. for me, this means that i had now we'll seek confirmation from the european parliament on my appointment. after presenting my political guidelines for the next 5 years, so there is another step to do on the way forward. thank you. and here's our correspondent jack. a pair of with more is a big success for the european commission president, sort of on the lions. she's done a big campaign to get this nomination and it's been approved be you. leaders did approve it, the italian prime minister. we know abstained, don't georgia maloney in the vote, the signal some complications between the 2 of them going forward. we also know that kaya call us the attorney, and prime minister has been nominated as the foreign policy chief for the next 5 years. and i post a slip on the line and kind of call us,
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they will have to be approved by a majority in the european parliament that will be done in the secret ballot. so well, they can carry you favor with that political groups and the political backing of the coalition that is expected to box them. some of those made to send. so they'll need to make sure that they can get that vote over the line. it will come in the next couple of months, antonio cost or the fullness, portuguese prime minister. however, he gets his job as the you kind of so president, he only needs the latest to approve that and they did it by a majority. so he, in december, we'll take his position. what's interesting in this, when we look at what the priorities of the you going forward will be with us sort of underlying, that is how we can expect to try to continue this speedy process for ukraine's becoming the u. member state that she has got going. we also know that that will be a defense and security portfolio we expect in the next your a p and commission has never been met before. she will try and make that in her
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image as your little so press for her green deal to get back on track off to the last year or so. there's been shipping away of the sort of green. i'm visions of it that she had put in place that will be high priority going forward. it wasn't a big surprise that it was large. the expect to that these names would come. i mean, i broadly know what we expect the use the to ship to look for, look like so the next 5 years, a jetpack reporting. there is other news now. and polls have opened in iran for a special election to replace lead to president abraham raw. you see, it was killed in a helicopter crash last month. around supreme leader i was seeing here has cast his vote. i told him in a, is the highest authority in the country and had a broad control over select into 4 candidates were running for president. he's called for a higher turn out for the sake of the countries reputation. the vote for new political leadership in iran comes admitted domestic anger over a government crackdown on protests and tensions with israel. after 3 years of
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embrace the part and i need to ship it on $61000000.00 more does once again have a choice towards a poor economy, western sentients and women's rights among the most pressing issues. right. so you put in a lot of effort for the economy, but on the ground things didn't change much for the general public. and people were not happy about 20 of the time of the election, the huge app will be taken seriously. but when the vote is over, things will go back to the way they want. the young people are not allowed to remove that head scarves. it's the to practically team of supreme leader deluxe. how many totes do make power in eat on. but the young and president sets domestic policy and has some influence over foreign policy. oh,
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sure. presidential candidates usually ally confessed with a consultative supreme leader. but in an effort to gardner support from a public that's largely fields. and you need to decide to cite the candidates have campaigned by public and criticizing the government as one of the presidential candidates, is mohammed kazi boss, a former demanded of the blue city god. he has promised indians to devise the economy which has been back to by rest infections. we will definitely compensate for the gap between the inflation rates and wages, by raising your wages and providing you with necessary goods and staples in such a way that your dinner table will never shrink. and their, their leading candidate is se deleting as drug conservative as the former chief new peer negotiator and wants to press the head with it on long standing in the western
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policy the solar reform. this candidate is doctor mas to the skin. he has been the most critical voice against them. indeed, 3 who job and the morality police. he also fevers, engagement with the west. how long the by the way we can talk to each other. we can also learn to talk to our neighbors and the rest of the world, and then we kind of fight everyone. we shouldn't fight. we should not show aggression to others under somebody. human rights organizations criticize the fitness, afraid on interactions, and do worse than historically lower levels of what they're doing out remains a big challenge in deflection as well. i'd like to welcome sorrow buzzard finding a research fellow at the german institute for global and area studies. so we've learned to just bear in that report a little bit about some of the candidates, which one would you say has the best chance of becoming the next president of ron? i thank you for having me. the short answer to that is that nobody really knows
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that foundation has been the betting process has been extreme gain to me, yet it's the experience of previous elections showed that the state to me, ron has adopted a series of troy, an era strategies to engineer and to manipulate potential x and um, a 2009 prizes show that the regime when it comes to tolerate seeing a certain voice. it's within that society it's, it's a quite a harsh and the lights on accepting the 2013. the election was also another indicator that when the regime finds itself in a very come to kate's, it's an international crisis, maybe puts a so called product matic phase to that, to the front of, of the administration to face with the international coming to especially with the
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west this time around, we don't really know what exactly is the overall strategy, but i would imagine that somebody like position kion and his views are less on the rates. it's from within the deep state. and specifically the office of supreme either passively, he may have been thrown into pull off the nominees because he has the capacity to drum up some supports and encourage people to go to the ballot boxes, which is the most important issue in this election. but ultimately i think somebody may be like ali boss is the more desirable candidate because he, because of his, of security on his military background. and you know, that has been room is that he has been consider it as a candidates that can handle the transition of the supreme. he does power a to that, to his success a because apparently there is quite old. it might be the case that during the 1st
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presidency of whoever wins this uh, valid box. uh, that would be a transition of power and somebody like, uh, ali optics or the boxes in order to control the order and, and, uh, business as usual in a round for that transition. and would this be one of the main roles that the president would have and, and just to put a finer point on it, could you give us some context about how important it is? who becomes president, given that the highest authority. and the iranian system is the supreme leader. yes, i think a domestically and internationally. there is very little hope that anybody in the position of policy would be capable of shaking them, moving things and changing a rounds over old strategy. again, because of what you're exactly right, the mentions the extreme control of supreme data over the size of the country. i'm and that has been a bit to know. for example, somebody like uh, present bro, honie a puts of somebody like, well, how much of us are if in the foreign ministry? sorry. what's a smiley face?
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who wins and eloquently spoke in the language of the world? caught the j. scipio idea, but then ultimately he went back off to his, he was, his term in office was ended, and he gave an extensive interview and said that basically, i wasn't the decision maker. i was just doing merrily what i was told. so we have being the and done that, and we have seen that the president and administration have very little power boat if there was a coincidence between this time or the president and the transition to power up to the next to prove that that would be the crucial point for the next president. and so how much then these issues that we also heard about the iranian voters are concerned with the economic crisis, restrictions on civil liberties, women's rights, these kinds of things. how much do they play in the selection? i'm yes it's, it's all for us at the end of the election campaign,
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the candidates make most likely make promises that there is very little chance that they would be deliver it. it's the same many, ron, it's the same in various pop, other parts of the world. an issue of his job issue of economic pressure has always been used by all the presidential candidates from the time of ideas. as for example, in any 2000, he came out in the 1st election campaign and his 1st time and said, well, our problem is not really women set up, but then when he came to the office, he strengthens. and he fun that he extended the morales of so called morality police that were on the streets of the country harassing women. so these premises have been given before, but there was very little style, not very little willingness to actually implemented, meant to deliver them. they are mainly just to a drum up support, as i mentioned then bring people to the ballot box. economic situation also is the same thing. you know, people have been on there are lots of economic pressure. there is very little that
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any government, any wrong could do unless they normalize their relationships with the international community and as long as they don't have the power to do that economic situation, but remain the same. so all right, thank you so much for your analysis. there that is a sorrow, buzzard bundy research fellow at the giga institute. just millions of people will be marching in a pride parades around the world this weekends but not in turkey. where over the past decade of pride marches have been systematically banned, present ridge up type of air to one has a vilified gay and friends people and now many and the only b t q plus community fair things could get. even worse, dw is usually a 100 reports. it's still early in the evening, and other people's buy is preparing for his best guess. she runs one of the few remaining quin nightclubs in east. a safe space that she calls like. everyone can be who they want to be via to be q community has never had it easy in turkey. that
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recently, many of felt increasingly targeted, tells me if they didn't give you again, if you conway what you want, you constantly have your mind to a sexual orientation. look or in front of from the help of the i don't social media . there are people who attacked you and call you a pub to a free. they constant means still fear in you. they want you to be afraid of colquitt, us. let us look like long as i still was out of town. for years now, other has seen growing hostility to woodson, a community, although homosexuality is not a needle in turkey, authorities of band product demonstrations and major cities since 2015. those has to take to the streets, risk police, violence and detention. once again, this year for a teaser fans be a simple pride march, and the police are preparing for a major operation. barricades like these already for use all over the city center.
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the message is clear, protest won't be tolerated here. reprice bite on the snow, even forbidden to wave a price like a rainbow flag contributed. many people have left the country and recent his whole cause this good talk to the club co. everything has been some pitching block for us, cut off, and it's clear that the future will be talking to a shuttle that is frightening one day save a quote to turkish president ridge of tire of ad one and his ruling. it slow me conservative. a cape poverty has toughened their stems against eligibility to people in recent years. supp good. the sup book of these groups were the biggest supporters of deviant and perverted behaviors. and to fundamentally undermine our social structure. sure. can you probably understand what i am talking about a new l g b t a good image, we will not allow them to corrupt our judges. so add one homosexuality is
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a threat to for additional family values. the insist that marriage can only be between a man and a woman and says women should have multiple children to build the nation. in this conservative east and move neighborhood, many share these views and some even feel encouraged to say so openly. i'm talking about the mind from is lot mac perspective. it's forbidden. no, no, no more. as soon as i'm personally, i don't want our young people that are children to see that i've been was not. that's why i'm against the county. be to the cottage. see me on the let me give it to the guy, but i support them. i don't see any problems. i have very good friends who i gave all my all you know and doesn't work that way. how can 2 women know 2 men be together? that can't happen. old mazda 100 c, attitudes that are both by and her friends are repeatedly confronted with. but they don't want to hide. despite everything, we're still here. we're still standing to and we will continue to resist and speak
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out here at the club, the dream of a turkey that is tolerant to does this when everyone is accepted just as they are. thanks for watching dw news, the the,
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to the points. strong opinions, clear position, international perspective, direct set to be elephant in the room ahead of the case upcoming election. so let's talk about it. what is the state of the nation more than 4 years after leaving the you and pretty labor government offer a fresh start trying us this week onto the point to the point thing
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