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tv   Close up  Deutsche Welle  July 2, 2024 6:15pm-6:45pm CEST

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the, the, the innovation, green, the green revolution global. so listen to a whole lot of crime. it's probably up to speed. if the carriers subscribe to those channels every friday. subscribe to plan is a this is marie,
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a german woman who lost 130000 euros in an online romance scam. she's come to a court in nigeria, seeking justice. in 2018 marie fell in love online with a man using a fake identity. it was a typical romance scam, sometimes called cat fishing. fraudsters make victims believe they've found true love, then sheet them out of their money. now these are all records of the transfers i made, which was i felt under enormous pressure tons, 1751001401900. i feel completely stupid and it's unbelievable what you end up doing in that situation. that's the one that port. most victims never see their money again, and many perpetrators never get caught. but marie managed to do something do victims. can. she worked out her scammers, true identity as i'm, i'm fine. he was supposedly a business man with
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a good life. from italy and the us on. when i exposed him, i found out he was in nigeria. now, maria's set to meet the man in person for the 1st time in court in the nigerian capital a boot jack. i'm really nervous because i'm about to look him in the eyes. the oaks on reading the, the maurice ordeal began in 2018 with a short message. i sent my instagram account to public,
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to reach more people for my business and we stayed home until yeah, i hear on a quick the type of short time. later i got a message that said hello, beautiful hope. i don't bother you. beautiful hope i don't both are you is fine. my thought it was nice because he apologized for disturbing me. so we started chatting the same and check and flickered. as of this, a lot of that was the 1st picture he sent me out of the junky, introduced himself as a business man who wanted to collaborate with me pretty much to this is, this is him with his son the what at this point they've got my personal and pretty quickly, he told me his back story just said he was divorced and caring for his children season. so hopefully somebody cannot komatt didn't come or then this kind of picture came along to that. he quickly went into conquest mode, telling me i was beautiful. he thought i was such a strong woman. of course i was flattered to begin with. i didn't want to
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contemplate that it might not be real for marie was suffering from depression at the time, but didn't want to burden her family. ready the man saw his chance had done all, he suggested trips to the bahamas and other places. i loved the idea of going to the states or having coffee with him by the spanish steps in rome. stuff like that . cuz he to think no spanish and apparently so i hit in marie gradually began to trust the man before long they were chatting every day. then he asked her for money. i knew how all my alarm bells were ringing. oh, i saw a truck. oh good. he wants money, i bought an s, but i was shocked with that because it wasn't like that. it didn't feel like it could actually be a scam. the kind of for understood as it's touch base on kevin sign,
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credit to online because of the he was like know, how can you say that you should know me by now after that he goes to me and didn't get in touch, which made me worry. yeah. that's how he was able to manipulate me psychologically . marie asked for a copy of his passport as security. on the top, i didn't notice that it was fake. he promised to pay her back quickly. yeah, i thought okay, it's just 1200 euros. not that that's nothing, but it would just be a one time saying, then i need it. but things didn't stop there. back in nigeria, the court cases supposed to have begun the see here, i'm just waiting here on my own. maurice lawyer is also wondering why things aren't
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getting underway of what is happening. so i think is the, the because it does it seem today the judge is in the conference. and all the cases split that for the, to the uh, being that judge did extra is keeping those dates in the vendor. so you will have to write an application to the parts. and then there'll be no hearing today, even though marie traveled all the way from germany. come on. wow. it's very different to germany, to watch. and nobody seems that upset or bothered about it trying to solve kind of what else to do and what else is to come on. it seems marie, may have missed her chance to confront her online scammer. but then this happens
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hey, how are you? what are you at the courthouse? well, i knew i want to see you. come to me. whereabouts are you come to clot 12? 0 god i'm you don't you just called and asked where i was already been. and i asked him the same thing. he said he was in the court house and wanted to know which room i was in the garden, which is this vision told me from certificate on the outside to a home. he's on his way. i'm nervous of my hearts pounding and half closed. but the minutes ticked by and the man doesn't appear that's not him. the
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floor lies. the psychological warfare is typical for him. if he gets in touch and promises something and then doesn't come through, hello wow. you want to talk to me? yeah, i want to see you. i want to look look into you guys. ok. i'm bring your good. uh, also. ok bye. okay. by the marine, the man agreed to meet in the evening. together with their lawyers. they'll discuss an out of court settlement. but there's no knowing whether he'll actually show up the before leaving for nigeria. marie met with cause cross from a german victim support organization called advice serving or white ring. she told
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them about her experience is fine. i'm to begin with. i might have been emotionally dependent about me then it turned into something more like being a prisoner. i want it to get out, but i couldn't have, i was always confident. yeah. i. so i see somebody can see here one things for certain, your not to blame in the slightest the we work on so many criminal cases. and we know that every perpetrator is specially trained when it comes to the way they talk to you and everything else is so hitting a sweet tea issued into cuz they chum, you, they make you feel secure. is this a will do free speech? you're going to be false, get $1.00 to $3.00. have i had got to didn't. so he was there at the time when i needed help. when i wasn't doing well, he filled the void. i was feeling the oddities dog dispute. he knew what he was doing and just had a stroke of most viewed, his understanding was he groomed you quoted me rep, if i felt paralyzed video,
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everything hurt to be a good time explicitly. smith with a piece, and you've been through so much, sorry to send it, including no need to apologize on the hope to have such respect for what you've decided to do. i mean, everyone has that coverage. the scale is wouldn't stand a chance. can you, do you have to postpone your knowledge to the general public this, these people at the msf marie 1st contacted the police at the end of 2018, but they didn't take her seriously. now she's decided to try again. hello, i'm officer cross. can i see it? yes, of course. at that point it says that the continent does off and back then the police man couldn't do anything about my situation. he couldn't help me. and in fact, he made fun of me. that was a real slap in the face because i knew myself that i'd been stupid,
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and i'd already been really critical of myself. and then to then hear the police say, you've been such a silly girl. as a thought, it wasn't what i would've expected. then the police couldn't have offered to help me then in their filed a complaint and encouraged me to file one. no, i'm sorry. go to norman and michelle. if they'd acted properly back then, i probably have got out of the situation much sooner. and i wouldn't have lost so much money and i do need to see their title on fucked. is that i can tell you that if a complaint is made in this matter, we will investigate, said, you know, not what's in fact doesn't answer the question of why the investigation was so incredibly slow. when i filed the complaint before that, i couldn't understand it because i passed everything onto the police, all the fake documents, he sent me chat, transcripts, and so on. a white is the victim, have to do the detective work themselves of do the,
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do the do them in terms of that, like why can't the police do it? why is this is getting as soon as it becomes about another country, it gets very difficult because you need law enforcement treaty as coming the week. we're working on that. but sadly, we're not yet to the point where we can call somebody nigeria and say, we have this case here. see what you can do with the mountain guns. the somebody like that you missed the in the german state of the various police received more than 450 reports of online romance scans. in 2023 alone. all in, all scammers took around 5300000 years. the permission is cloud based on say, it has always been a part of my life where i can lift myself. i've done drunk strength in content and image, all costs shut some content. i have little candles because i prayed for protection for the trip to nigeria. my sorts at this and also to give thanks that i made it
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through the last 5 years. miss baton cares. i think i've got to stay in nigeria. the court hearing has been postponed and marie doesn't know whether the man she met online will show up for the arrange meeting. if she gets stood up again, for whole trip will have been in vain. does she think he'll still com of the might? but i'd say it's unlikely times on the i've been calling the the lawyer to represent you. and i hope you can join us on the lawyer has been given me, excuse this and uh is no longer picking this phone call. and us use that step
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when they have us do this with mickey pesky, how too bad for me? i wrote them here, but he hasn't responded to be so sweet. thank you. thank you. no problem. thank you. know, really he about to death. i'm expecting a tall man to walk in to be able to look him in the eyes and see that he is really lying. the police on flies, the money goes on to my biggest hope is that we can agree that he'll give me my money back as soon as possible. it's just maggie, but there's sort of gift. but
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this time the man does show up together with his lawyer. both want their faces blurred on film, yet smiled. indeed, it was a case of sitting opposite him and really giving him a piece of my mind miss. give all you could sense that he had done something bad. he looked at the floor, he looked away. he was subdued and quiet. nice. he used to shout at me when something didn't happen the way he wanted me to be forced to know. he was like a dog with its tail between its legs. because when i pull to the bottom, i do actually think he showed remorse to customer a good time. but it's still not clear whether marie will ever see for 130000 euros again the, the re is still dealing with the emotional effects of what happened in 2018. it's
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been been a small painting, allows me to get away from my problems and find peace things along on calling them and i have a whole total with other kids. i'm trying a picture where there's a landscape emerging from the fog to monitor the need to have for clone. that's the, that's how you feel when you're being scammed. you enveloped in this fog? tight them? i'm just comes that and i'm beginning to emerge from it. i definitely need the plaza on is often v cause to me as the ordeal went on, marie began to see things more clearly as as a speech, i always done him later when i knew he was a scammer, i asked for more and more photos on the slide and it started getting ridiculous.
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wow. how doesn't. and so in this one, he just photoshop the head on top. it doesn't look really at all. i don't know, at some point, he was in hospital for an operation. he sent this picture big equipment when it happened this class and how i'm good with me. i called and emailed the hospital. when do you have the officer? and they said they didn't know of any such patient. you know, i'm kind of was let me know that was a got punched in a school district, but marie kept playing along with their scammer. she even gave him more money so as not to lose his trust. eventually she persuaded him to have a video call on that, and there was this guy looking at me and the result i told you, i have to pay the fee and then you'll get your money back and you pay $1750.00 us
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dollars tomorrow and then you'll have it back soon. the man got increasingly careless. marie was on the verge of discovering his true identity. if i don't, i can brush and i, he was actually relieved that he no longer had to lie to me and he sent me a whole lot of photos of himself, his family and friends and friends from district one to another. he also sent a video. you, in the video, he and his cousins, and some friends are walking by an elephant fountain and astonishment. the miners off the fountain is quite distinctive. so i took a screenshot and use google image search to find it. copies done then, and the fun for me. it's new, it'll be a real cool in delta state. and i jerry of that have states in the near for a place called mccarthy beach, beach of the no marie was able to
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expose the man and his network. she informs nigeria is financial crimes authority. the fcc justice. this is what the fcc posted after they arrested him, not in my in the back in nigeria. larisse quest isn't over yet. now we've come to been in city because it's a hot bed of fraud. you could, you couldn't even take workshops here to learn the best methods to scam people on, on the speaking, i'm here to get a sense of how it all works when invest stuff in, in to see to investor. hold on one. yeah,
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on this is solomon. says that he's going to help me stay safe and let him about. and also show me places where there are scammers. but 1st marie and solomon decide to visit a ju ju pres. one contact, one of his friends got in touch it and threatens me on wooded. he told me that if i didn't pay this thing of the priest would curse me and my family to mount, who though my name from the number of them i can get really upset me. me a s my tiskus hoffman. i was scared laurise decided to find out for herself what's behind the practice the the. 6 the
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1st the do, do priest demonstrates his supernatural powers. they didn't think well as device the mouth would have to proof as power and they stuff to brooms together and lifted me up with them. they're not, even though you might expect them to come a part. of course, i know the physics behind it with it because i've been hang, bye, bye, sweetie. physics must be physically. it's not magic, just physics. i know civic. you know, well, what would you like to do? kill him. what do you want to do for the last year? at least with do you want to be there? we don't want to. i don't want him to hot and you don't want to accommodate you was how much do you do rituals are common in nigeria, the significant kind of stuff?
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did you please come on? the power, not because from the origin, the price of the previous desk is like desperate power on the front of the comfortable in the name of business. this is papa. i have his business and i wanted to have medical proof of this business associates and other people. it seems that the man who cheated marie out of her money also has his own ju ju priest. to break the spell, marie is told to cook some yam. the priest says that she'll get her money back in 3 days to an answer. so it looks nice, but it doesn't have much of an effect on me anymore. is it on the feeder i felt before has subsided. thank you very much. no, yeah, it's genetic response of the has all, but let's see if the magic works to send advanced up the focus victims, the feds,
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unemployment, or maybe on sunday when i'm in the plane, i'll check my bank account and see that the money's arrived. larisse still wants to find out more about how the scammers operate, but she has to cut short her trip to benny and city because there's surprising news from a bu jeff. all right, i'm going to be searching, but i am in june. i'm tomorrow. i went to the judge so they gave me the highest degree. his name is lucy, tomorrow call. thank you bye. and it looks like the court hearing is happening after all. so marie is heading back to a budget the
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but her helper solomon remains in building city. he's made contact with a group of scammers. in nigeria, they're known as yahoo boys, a term for young man who want to make a quick buck online. their boss is willing to give an anonymous interview about his business. oh yeah. look into america. we just want to get information from you on do the activities and all of us this year we. we also because it tells us the boys. it was the 9th dollars that we've, we've done it quite bumping for implants. so these boys are looking for one. they are driving so i get it in front and you get like from the streets and he's going to the work. so in utah, so from the streets. so it goes out to hardness. if on next 24 months,
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you have the money coming sweatshirts. $64240.00 ethics is to present that to the client. then that works okay. sounds good. what's your name was mostly my name is tom. on. sounds here. ok, i'm hold on. okay. i want ok. she said ok. nice name again says to go live ok that i would go about the lack of moving to the use of sale that hi. hello. how you doing beautiful, how's your day going from day use? because there's all stuff on there to use. um false features can see how even though you have them then. yeah, they will not respond to you. you know they will not. my real name is thomas bell tires g. now the words shes, it was not happy doing its something few sort of has to 2000 feet and most
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meanwhile, maria's back in court and a boot you when we get the news, my heart is pounding. i just hope i can get through it. this is iris house has some kind of book, steve. the man hasn't yet been found guilty in court. but feel strange. i just, i just because i have to present all the evidence most valuable. and because there used to be sympathy and understanding preston and may be also in love to him about stairs because our house and it's clear he's been lying to me the whole time and we have sports. and i gave him so many chances to tell the truth. he never did her best only little by little hope after i was able to prove i knew who he really was there ever because i trusted him and she took advantage of me. yeah. so
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but it was my dignity back before giving evidence in english. marie talks to the prosecutor and her new lawyer, one more time. i'll do my best. it won't be good if i'm nervous and worked up and i can't concentrate on the touch. take your time to the with the hearing about the start, we have to take our cameras outside the later that afternoon, marie is relieved or statement in court went well the it was such
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a relief to us on this round because i was finally able to let go of everything and values and there's all my left. last that in content is a week ago, i was still so scared to be here and i still felt trapped on the cut. all the prejudices have a back rated. my jewelry is a really friendly country. and i've met some great people, north of kent, i'm glad i'm glad that she has had the experience because it's nice to see that not everybody nigeria i'm really hopeful for the end of the case because i believe most, if not all i also did you guys as decision coming here has definitely been worth it. little by little. i'm getting back to being the old me. the person i was before i was scammed, been in my am on the
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dream of revolution. it dictates as the most the was closed. that changed my life. the people hoped for a sara society. i imagined we would change the world. tens of thousands of messages from all of the world wanted to help reconstruct the country. this mission became the dream. it was simply a spirit of optimism where we encouraged each other, so many things were suddenly imaginable. there are the most efficient and
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make it a dream of revolution. thoughts, july 20th dw, the and so between the age of 17 to 23 are so 645 times a week. but by 6 it's, it's a shaped upfront. money are good, they make money doing it. so you can't say much against it. and people up for it to go down, books should prostitution be allowed? sweden's answer to this question has been in.