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why do we say there about never giving up every weekend on d w this week on the 77 percent street debate. you're speaking about the impact of what's the issue towards how i did he likes as you're going to we keep seeing you that co chase bank culture is bank. it's of the guns why we're doing that on college. and that was part of the place for speaking may look around which you know, those days there's no to put the address on you. yeah. it but your new thing to get that to a phone speaking, look along with the new compound video of what to do, combining african languages and local along with this in. but you can, we're having this conversation in english force that has and 15 of coach at 15,
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both college i use language. if we are having this conversation, you mingle is, what are we still trying to defend? we've been having a tool that the woman is not supposed to to cannot excite. okay, i'm okay. okay. okay. okay. okay. let him settle this chicken situation on watson, the hello and welcome back to the submit to set up a test for debate. this week we a back and you've done this capital of compiler. now this is a city that steeped in traditional culture, but you wouldn't know that walking around because like many capitals across africa, it's also living in a more than time. as of today, we're asking applicant cultures at risk of being erased in the quest for globalization and who brought us to answer this question for me, then uganda. and i want to talk with kia because when we have the conversation, i know you said something very interesting about what you think the role of culture is in society. so in, you'll find me what role does culture play each. it plays
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a role and he comes to the disappointing lead comes tomorrow, as when it comes to way of behavior. so concepts it gets routed into the young people. it has to begin from home. for example, me, i'm allowing you by type of good enough from cassettes to from west and you're going to, my mom is from the east. so when you get to see that to equipment, and you think i've mentioned in my, my, the language. yes, i know like me, i can speak like, you know, i to and i mean know, then you're going to can speak the language, but why i might be able to do all this because my father told to me from day one, if you good. so i do not need you to annual and reply him, i'm fine, you're going to get a smack when your head. so if you're speaking of this at the end, because really does a speaking of them that you should be with young people, the issue is actually with them. okay? so before, before we addressed the issue until tonya to, i just want to understand, you know, because not everybody lives in a cultural home. so what does that look like for you? is that when you are having best days, is it when these marriages, when do you really feel this culture? cochise actually felt during traditional ceremonies that is doing in the corner
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where they're calling nicole among the, the gun to which i do send them average. so the only time i would know that let me see exist properly is when there's a transition to merge. and then these old does, would tell us to dress like an physician was under the option of dressing that tradition where now that means that we are only shown and we are meant to believe that culture should only be to be portrayed during traditional ceremonies, right? if you come dressed in your skin, you punch, i will actually send you over, but you can not tell me to come for a run petty and you expect me come, dusty no, go me see what are you trying to him because that specified yeah, shown are going to say is the traditional effort, traditional you're going to go there, gave me, i'm all right. so let's move to phrase here for a little bit because you come from an extremely traditional home and what it's talking about here is nothing new for you, right? but you have a very different interpretation of you tell us a little bit about the, my grand my that would where, how good may see every time it felt like it was the only dress senior. and then that i had a good good my the who would do the exact same thing my my the way as have gone
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seats to almost every function she's been invited to have gone up in a home. that's very, very traditional. you have to kneel when you agreed, you have to kneel when your sob, you have to do such and things the way they are meant to do your clothes as opposed to be a set in height, as opposed to speak your language as opposed to it's so culture to a point that they've been gender roles attached to men and women because of call to, you know, culturally a mind is like a good. we see him as he's up that. and so if i'm talking to a mind i'm going to be kneeling. that particular parts of the chicken that only the mind it's and as a woman did she didn't it, ma'am. and also growing up. i used to see my grandmother refused to say she can because you know it's meant for the man. but i'm going to be like, i don't want to do all that. yeah. okay. oh wow. wow. well, gabrielle, gabrielle, gavin, it's right to misinform, you know, we have a coaches to say a to that is coach what is stranded because of the political question. we don't do guns by choice. we had your guns despite the virtual because you know what you see
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. we are both together noted by our choice, knowing the cause that we decided. so because you have mixed up, someone comes here and the cutting, your incompetence is a, pushed on us. and it will gone to here where it's, what do you mean when you say cultural incompetence, these, you know, you know what to what tell you the testing might as well say at and you do eat i, i find it. does that mean competency in may? so say it, yeah, and it will go into a policy with respect to women, to different that to the biggest, when to wait a minute. because even in the iraq of our kingdom would default most big offices in the king don't belong to women with land title and do a story that takes to eat. for instance, like i'm to hold on, let me let, let me, let me, let me, let me, let the bundle women speak for themselves. oh for such as non just it's everywhere . and then just begun to move on to get married. and when did she come out? to see the people she's not even allowed to just go around talking anyhow. leave
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the queen of the kingdom of, of so got to going even allowed to go talking to people anyhow. lee, do you know that our queen can't even stay in the same kingdom with the king because we've been and supposed to be treated as that and kind of way to maybe it's the probably, i mentioned the government, we do have people that, but if it's talking about but kingdom i think is missing point. okay. all right. all right, before we make this, the debates about demand versus women, let me come to you under because when we was speaking, you made the point that's look what are we even defending? what's culture like re, laws and rules that we have fun to include? came up with them. how far back to they go. tell me a bit about that up as an idea, i believe co changed the way of life at the problem is that most of the terms are not talking about codes had enough for it all. you talk about it in a traditional way. we talk about 2 to 3, where, at, for example, like we may tell you that we are in the cartridge center because the couple of vets and, but codes hayes more than that. it's the 4 digits. what we say is though we talk so
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when you look at africa, sense of what kind of nice. oh those, yes, back. and you look had to look at, i forgot to do. what exactly are we trying to praise? of like, i mean, we're having this conversation in english for us that has and 15 of codes at 15, both college i use language. so if we are having this conversation in english, uh, if most of us are wearing this gaps, which we do not even know why they came from known to wearing the hides and skins, what are we still trying to defend? okay. all right, let me give henry a chance. henry, by the way, is a veteran generative and also an educator, a mattress. for addition, this i would like to support what to mike, what do you have dusted on along with the investigator? what's that's from? i think my concerns yearly is neglected language is completed because of wisdom. language is what i mean. can you say that because yeah, in kampala, majority of the people don't speak english also. he, me,
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they speak glenda used to speaking with brenda. most of people. yeah. and you come 1st because of grand, but that's sort of traditional language. you're going to come with junk from kind of would consistent room with the co enjoy the thought or the only income. but i never looked out the can't speak to the traditional indigenous language. how do you mind going with total speak, you're totally uncomfortable. people seek you. i read a job. first of all, you're not indicated number 2. and because of that, and then newest and along with these english is now coming in, it was a friend, does come in read because coming. so they're over saturday, ever seen you started said because i'm this ones you must pass english to be say, to be seen on the bus. and so i am yeah, the feeding, sorry for that. you don't find a many i told easy to come part us. we've got choice. okay. alright. the yes, the issue is people should emulate who the and be proud and be what the language a thought to decode to just like language is the issue of choice. no one has ever
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been listed in this country for speaking the language. no one has ever been that is for addressing what? oh the some things came because of bodies in college. i. yes. you know, traditionally is we've been having bodies like ways things. we've been having a tool that they won't mind is don't suppose to it, the ticket on x, but it doesn't want to read any anywhere. yeah. it is not within our lines on the but anybody got it is, is tested. the woman is supposed to be treated like any other human being, but those, the more that needs smoke, i mean, yeah, just cross up. they can pull, people tend to fit the body, but the both us to preach the body goes to make us make as you, we are pushing women to drill, right. okay. i'm okay. okay. okay. okay. okay. love to settle this chicken situation on watson. okay. because i don't want to talk about it again. yeah. let me give you a chance to respond because the raise your hand them to, to get a, get me to of the whole thing cause out to tell you, i agree that's it's, it has been a general politically mean africa in uganda as well. we meant even as he stated on
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getting his argument, that's the female. he doesn't in positions, but trust me both the melody does us too much in their lives. why? because of, because as to why that back then because of the previous couch as so kim saying that the women i've actually been included, it has always been a general problem. go to any traditional home i wouldn't mind is marginalized. okay . but let me let, let me, yeah, let me ask and let me ask a question that henri is, you know, when we talk about culture, it's just the general evolution of, of people. so when you say previous cultures, when does a previous culture and then begin now the previous call. so i would say is how they used to be here in the past days. right now it's, it's alicia and are you in error? the season is of this i never, i never knew shouldn't happening right now. so as africa, dishes and stuff, the blame game of the worst time called sizing for wasting us. we have these very resources, we have the internet, we have all these things. how many times when we hear but after the confession gala on off, we can freshen show that is green viral? no, no one is the by the, the problem is new to the western cause we need to check the exact plus the i get
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to point when to do. one of the things i've had so much already is everyone is talking about the ones that think about the goodness, the traditional dress, and then the kinds that was the tentative for me. but when these things are not even designed by the end to begin with, they go, mr. wasn't designed by gun to and may that is it is material from yeah, there my tell you is from usually the india and even the material for the kazi is from india. so one does force that has that's not even not traditional address. someone gave it to was the, the, the, the so, so you see that's why it comes in. so it's them who i reading call tone. the oh. and this is all they have told us, this is all they have told to us nothing else has been told to us. you understand that right away from the culture and they drove us with them. so what we know,
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and now they're telling us he's not culture even them. so the people themselves are reading cause before they bla, modernization, about language. just being aware that because i'm going to zation, let's talk about into marriages. which language of a child supposed to land growing up? so these people who can before us eroded culture and now they're blaming modernization because all of known as cultural outa is go messy them we send them out the console and if he's telling me today, you want us to add backlog and we'll come make it okay that's the, that's henry henry henry, that's a good question. i just want to come to for a 2nd because there's an important point the faith is really raising that will also adapting a what to down version of some kind of culture. so, so what do you have to say to that, you know, look into the future, should we blame young people for not taking on what we now know of our culture. but i think we're not comfortable with the p, but we have to blame the international communities which has come up to unify you couldn't get to global who to,
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to now and it could you go mean how do you want to put there a that you said that to kind of you find squared oak along with you sort of tool. so me, i was punished place for speaking my local down, which you know, those days there's there to put the address when you yeah it. but the new thing to get that to a phone speaking go look along with the new compound. so yeah, that's what to did come by and african along with these local with this in. but you can ok that started. let me hear from catherine and then i'd like to get some thoughts from the back please. i would like to set that to 1966 present. milton? no, but to a ballast kingdoms. so that was the beginning of the end as receipts. so when uh the kingdoms, uh balise the well later reinstated by him was 7 in 1993. so you can see they've got the yes before not but to think i dish and they can go mist clothes. you don't know, is your king, you, your princess, you're just there. right. and then when it's come some, some kingdoms with no tree established, for example, that include kingdom where i come from. so i don't know where that king is. i don't know as a princess i, you know, have
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a princess somewhere. i don't know where she was most to go to connecticut. that's why you indicated to nothing about your culture. so for example, what i love now is what i find on the funding, the village, but that isn't necessarily what they practiced in the 1900, right? so it has been changed and changed. i like you in the gun that was still has your culture and your kingdom and your t. i have none. right. okay. uh let me, let me, let me ask for a funny important question here. uh which is that? yes. what is the importance of these simple things of uh oh, are you guys cancelling one each other? oh no. so what is the importance of all of these symbols in culture because like you're saying, you know, the kingdom, does it have a place and more than do society, it does mean that you can, has a king, a king as the older rule. so it does have a pleasant modern society, but it doesn't have to be too rigid to change some of the practices. you understand
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. we're not saying that culture should go away. we just think they should adapt to them with an a session. i'm, we're, we're trying to adapt, they should not judge the ones who are adapting you understand. so now when i show up for patsy in my high sleeve dress and dates, which edition of i think it shouldn't be a crime that i'm not wearing a good missy. you understand, we're just saying they do have a plus in the modern society so that they should be ready to adapt. ok because they don't look at what level do we adopted because it sounds to me like we want to do all the things that are easy. the closing, the 3rd one is around marriage and naming children. what about politics? what about medicine? yeah, somebody p a. yes. so it's about $330.00, give me an me. according to me, i think like modernization to a good a bus. and that does not affect go to really much because you can do you go just as long as you are doing. you can be with your phone. you can do anything which is more than as long as presenting your call to get your traditional foot gun dressed,
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and yet the additional well as you're using the internet as you own what's up you're doing. and then one down thing you want to do. you can, you can do anything like anything given the local dreams, the risk or the what. but it is even though we, we are both of these, it's of the guns why we're doing that on culture. because when you go to school, 1st of all, the wanted to speak english throughout when you speak to a local language is up, but didn't like the want to put an issue. so you'll be, we've all these see how you'd be like, and then there's this and then there's this thing up. it does. when you speak up with guns, you speak, you look along with like i'm, i'm actually, i'm speaking how to live is the monthly you're going to be like, know me. when i speak, i totally about going to tell me every time i speak, i truly among but done does maybe like so the thing is like pulling by follow up with the guns you say. so if you don't fix the language, but then maybe you will get a new,
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a traditional food. i'm on your follow up. it turns maybe you'll get in greens now, wanted to get chicken accepted. they wanted to get tips with they didn't know before. when you bring a group of the guns be like what your vet, my step smoking. you, you say it's the guns were contributing to the things you can do, but then the the same thing. so yeah. ok, i like that. all right, so you don't have to to stay traditional but also stay more than there was some views of the back there. yeah, let's come here. so coach wiley the days before. oh, mine was expected to go back home quote, for the husband to go the to. but this days there is a 6 to walk home and as to which walk that's been as to where to walk. so they come booklet and have just go buy food in rows. so it took about the family, say teen parents these days. they grew up to look into that kids in english or the kids or somebody of that. yeah. when doing to maybe language i really just the cognitive and couldn't get to that, you know, does the grandparents and that is a really a big problem. okay. so for you, it's about language,
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it's about social structures and sort of the rules in that society. i liked that there was some of the points here. i think we are speaking about the impact of western edition towards our daily lives as your guidance. and we want to want to know what a nice but i think it would be. but i think what is this part of our culture? that is westernized, it shouldn't. where did he dropped from from the western loads. we are looking at the implication to western life towards our very own live though we leave here in oregon. i think we're losing the contents of this topic. okay, all right. all right. let me, let me, let me, let me come back to give you for a 2nd, but before i do right, i think it's fair to say that so far, what we are agreeing on is that the call to sort of seeps into one another, right? we adopt and we let go of some and we adults in blackboard. some right? so now i wanted to talk about it in practical terms. here you are really defending
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tradition and culture. what are some of the things well for you, if it did not exist a totally new life? it just wouldn't be the same culturally. is to a major role to the elders, to make sure the children get to know the identity as the various tribes like may be my father, the double jeopardy schmiel i need. so should i, the parents teach that you've been there languages as well as involved as they learn to english from school. so from home you have, there will teach them that language now coming to the kind of food we as africans need to appreciate all food as us. so now if you go around the streets of comp i left and go to annual turn on us for my like long which is under then food, then you will. how do you find the trait? and yet we keep seeing you at cochise dang costs here. thank the very same person cooking these more done foods and doesn't even take the initiative to cook this local food is to complain about the erosion of culture by which time on who's not even in your heart. okay. but let me ask you, is it fair to expect? i don't know how long it takes to cook my la, but some of my traditional foods, you need hours over the stove. does that make sense with the kinds of schedules
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that we have as time moved zone and as we evolve and p coordinator things, some of these things we want to have going to or should be let go cause i mean, why are we doing so i have to keep some of these things. yeah. like we, it's important to keep some things, but it's important when those things that are relevant. alright, but my question is if we allow so many things to die out and sort of fall by the wayside, what's going to support rates us from europeans from asians, from americans? africa was set up to forget to go to. i don't know if they intend to do it, but they offer kind of setup. when most african countries usually have that one city, which is usually more developed than the yeah, those are that people come in and start working to get at the moment to start mixing. it's so hard to maintain that coach. so when you, you'll mixed up. so it's always up to everyone, we use that tool to up to the mentoring codes that i told him. no, doesn't that?
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okay, so how do we maintain control outcome to you? but how do we maintain culture in a way that doesn't feel a press? the faith in a way that feels like you have a choice. if you want to wear your official clothes, if you want to wear whatever it is or it's whatever it is that you want to be deducted by your family, by the way, what would happen if you told you finally, you no longer want to follow the customs and i wouldn't want to know i'd would happen. i really wouldn't want to know, cuz that would mean you feel getting way. why are your deserts and your people just sort of be like the white people which is going to, is not practicing the culture's. does it mean i'm not a super cool anyways, but how do we maintain code so we can constantly remind the children that ok, traditionally this is how we cook the smell. the smell is prepared like these traditionally and all that. but i didn't have to poke, they send me every day for me to because the in the home like this, some homes where my took it like my home. my took a must be cooked. i took it when you played. it comes with
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a stick of things in your hands, and after you've failed, you've failed. you have to squeeze it. you're squeezing hot banana leaves. and yet i could just cool grace. i'm surprised then. so let's make it. we can mention culture in a way that we have to understand that you are teaching the child, but you do not have to force the child to do what you're teaching them every day. it becomes a punishment. we will now set to look at the culture as a punishment instead of looking at it in its beauty. yeah, uh, some verses of the back here. the more than one of these sit team that's it's, it works for you quick. if i'm sick, i'll go to the hospital, they're giving me types, but we bucks these make great new. we'll just go to the bush, pick something that would work for you. there's no, i'm going to pick up and go to the ocean, pick pets because they have to go to the hospital and do that. sometimes we even feel like now going back to the cause me. i'd have to stay and come by next couple days. so good, have everything, go, go to the, send them out, get everything there for like a need. but then when you tell me, go back to the village reach. britney connie is going to told me to go to
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a good thing. we. okay. so this is interesting. so in order for culture 3 group that has to be hardship too much more than conveniences is not good for culture cream to kind to all right? as we conclude, can you please move this way a little bit. as we conclude, i want to ask a simple question, how do we make sure that we're not losing the best possible culture to west and that they shall know to globally? so let me just ask a few, henry. i think we need to sort of, you uh, what kind of to them are what kind of come north initiative for the key. i knew grand, but focusing on africa as of going to meet the black people. you put that to me. that's a bit though, a block of people we need do credit to them. that raises assess themes, the black people. it's very unfortunate because i don't want to know for me to call you in the or whatever which country in europe and countries i've, we've adopted upcoming college eyes. i don't know whether it's the one twice ever seen yours. then that is even the lowest way using for your lives and you know, for your, or your family best. you know, so you monitors, for example,
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you have the best then with o s out that isn't a human, it's. so my concern is why really go ever seemed to, there was done, whereas if we don't and we're doing with the exist, i've tried it. so i, we need a new set of bus that from what's our own, indigenous culture in digging us in order to induce us exist as and above or the block of people. all right, so uh, kia, how do we retain our african identity and culture even as we participate in the global? well, the best way to do this is, let's accept that this. a lot of change happening as africans gets something that we identify ourselves with. what we believe as we know, that is that the way we eat the way we dress and have each moving forward. and this comes from the roots of our parents right at home. let's stop with blaming. there were some costs. have you all called saves beauty for like ladies and gentlemen, how would you say somebody told you a cautious do you know if one's cautious between you to accept as an mc i was, beatrice has to be being busted as if we want to see it all right face,
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i think maintaining culture sets with you the person is supposed to each and every one of us. we'll have coaches have seen growing up. and if we want to maintain these causes is we carry them on you and your family should book too. so you'll culture the way you want to, but as you're purchasing your culture, you should also remember that the wallet is going more desperate. and finally, under the beginning, we did say that you said, you know, what is it to preserve, having had everything that's been said, have you changed your mind to let when we say that a frequent coach is being influenced, we do not have to forget that african coach, he's also influenced people elsewhere like 2 days people are listening to other to about for beads. chris brown is there anything god forbid, music and no, because they're listening to what africa is doing, and they're trying to do it. so we are, as we are being influenced us, the influence and someone. all right, thank you very much. well, we did ask if the applicant culture is being erased or being threatened by westernization. and the answer today is of culture is the process of doing
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