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a hi, i'm shopping and i'm ready to dive into the hands of the gentleman who 2 of you have you have a window to talk to me before you go to the spot and unexpected side to side. enjoy this week on the 77 percent street debate. we are speaking about the impact of westernized session towards our daily lives as you've gone to and we keep seeing you at cochise dang culture. thank is africans who i really didn't go on college. and that was quite a place for speaking may look around which you know, those days there's no to put the address on you. yeah. it but you're new trying to get that to a phone speaking. go look along with the new compound video of what to do, combining african languages and look along with this impact. you can, we're having this conversation in english for us that has and 15 of coach at 15 of
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college. i use language. if we're having this conversation, you mean please, what are we still trying to defend? we've been having a tool that one is not supposed to cannot excite. okay? i'm okay. okay. okay. okay. okay. love to settle this chicken situation less than the hello and welcome back to the submit to set up a test suite debate this week. we a back and you've done this capital of compiler. now this is a city that's steeped in traditional culture, but you wouldn't know that walking around because like many capitals across africa is also living in a more than time. today we're asking applicant cultures at risk of being erased in the quest for globalization and who better to answer this question for me, then uganda and z, and i want to talk with kia because when we had the conversation on your you said something very interesting about what you think the role of culture is in society? so in your find me, what role does culture play each plays
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a role when it comes to disappointing lead comes tomorrow is when it comes to where of behavior. so concepts it gets routed into the young people. it has to begin from home. for example, me, i'm letting you buy tribe of good enough from consistent from west and you're going to, my mom is from the east. so when you get to see about to equipment issues, we think i've mentioned in my my, the language, yes, i know like me, i can speak along you flowing through and i'm, you know, then you're going to, i can speak the language, but why i might be able to do all this because my father told to me from day one, if you good, so i do not need it anymore and reply him. i'm afraid you're going to get a smack when your head. so if you're speaking of this at the end, because to really does a speaking of them that you should be with young people, the issue is upset with them. okay, well, your fault before we address the issue in totality. i just want to understand, you know, because not everybody lives in a cultural home. so what does that look like for you is that when you are having best days, is it when these marriages, when do you really feel this culture? cochise actually felt during traditional ceremonies. that is during a me, courtney why they're calling nicole among the,
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the gun to which i do should know marriage. so the only time i would know that i'm going to exist properly is when there's a tradition tomorrow. and then these old, those who tell us to dress like and try to send to us and that they're actually trusting that tradition where now that means that we are only shown and we are meant to believe that culture should only be to be portrayed during traditional ceremonies, right? if you come dressed in your skin, you punch, i will actually send you over. but you cannot tell me to come for a grand putty and you expect me come just, you know me see, what are you trying to him because that's i suspect you have shown us are going to say is the traditional effort traditional your gun done? gave me, i'm all right, so let's move to phrase here for a little bit because you come from an extremely traditional home and what a key is talking about here is nothing new for you, right? but you have a very different interpretation of you tell us a little bit about that. my grandmother would wear how good may see every time it felt like it was the only dressed senior. and then that i had a great good my the who would do the exact same thing. my my, the way i have gone seats to almost every function she's been invited to have gone
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up in a home. that's very, very traditional. you have to kneel when you agreed, you have to kneel. when you saw, you have to do such and things the way they are meant to do your clothes as opposed to be a set in height, as opposed to speak your language as opposed to it's so culture to a point that they've been gender roles attached to men and women because of call to, you know, culturally mine is like a good. we see him as he's up that. and so if i'm talking to him, mind, i'm going to be kneeling. that particular parts of the chicken that only the mind it's and as a woman you, she didn't it ma'am and also well growing up. i used to see my grandmother refused to check. she can because you know it's meant for the man, but i'm going to be like, i don't want to do all that. yeah. okay. oh wow. wow. well, gabrielle gabriel. gov. it's right to me seem for me, you know, we have a country to say i to that is culturally stranded because of the political question . we don't do guns by choice. we had your guns, despite the virtual quote you on your need. see,
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we are both together known by our choice, not because that we decided so because we have mixed up, someone comes here and the culture incompetence is a pushed on us. and it will gone to here with what do you mean when you say cultural incompetence, these, you know, you know what to what type of the testing may as well say and do, do eat i, i find the does that mean competency? and mice will say it, yeah. and it will gunned up i see with respect to women, to different to that, to the biggest. when to wait a minute. because even in the iraq of our kink do default, most big offices in the king don't belong to women with land title and do a story that takes to eat. for instance, like content hold on, let me let, let me, let me, let me, let me, let the bundle women speak for themselves. of course that's as non just it's everywhere. and then just begun to nip on to get married. and when did she come out to see the people? she's not even allowed to just go around talking anyhow,
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that the queen of the kingdom of, of the saga. she's not even allowed to go talking to people. any holly, do you know that our queen can't even stay in the same kingdom with the king because we minutes supposed to be treated a sudden kind of way to maybe broken up by the probably i mentioned the government, we do have people that but they've been spoken about, but kingdom i think is missing point. okay. all right. all right, before we make this, the debates about demand buses remain. let me come to you under because when we was speaking, you made the point that's look what are we even defending? what's culture like re, laws and rules? if we are funded, we include came up with them. how far back to they go. tell me a bit about that. as an idea, i believe code changed the way of life at the problem is that most of the terms are not talking about content and efforts already talk about it in a traditional way we talk about to, to a, to where, at, for example, like we may tell you that we are in the cartridge center because the couple of vets and, but codes hayes more than that. it's the 4 digits. what we say is though,
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we talk so when you look at africa, sense what coordinate or those he has back. and you look at to, you look for it, got to do what exactly are we trying to praise? of like, i mean, we're having this conversation in english 1st that has and 15 of codes, 15, both college i use language. so if we are having this conversation in english, uh, if most of us are wearing this gaps, which we do not even know why they came from known to wearing the hides and schemes, what are we still trying to defend? okay. all right, let me give henry a chance, henry, by the way, is a veteran general and also an educator and lots of edition this i would like to support what to make, what you had just said on the, along with the investigator. what's that's from? i think my concerns yearly is neglected, language is completed because of wisdom. language is what i mean. can you say that because you're in a compiler majority of the people don't speak english also he me,
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they speak again to just to speak to the ground. most of people you encompass because of gone to, but that's sort of traditional language. you're going to come with junk from kind of would cuz he's a good one with the co enjoy the thought or the only income. but i never looked out the country because i traditional indigenous language. how do you mind going with total speaking are totally uncomfortable. people seek you, i read a job. first of all, you're not indicated number 2. and because of that, and then to list and along with these english is now coming in, it was a friend does come in read because coming. so they're over saturday, ever seen you started said because i missions you must bust english to be see, to be seen on the bus. and so i am yeah, the feeding, sorry for that. you don't find a many. i told his income, but as we got toward, okay, alright, the, yes, the issue is people should emulate who the and be proud and be what the language a thought to decode to just like language is the issue of choice. no one has ever
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been listed in this country for speaking the language. no one has ever been that is for addressing what? oh the some things came because of bodies in college. i. yes. you know, traditionally is we've been having bodies like ways things. we've been having a tool that one is don't suppose to it, the ticket on x. but it does not do it any any way. it is not within our lines and do, but anybody got it is is tested in mind is supposed to be treated like any other human being, but those the more that needs smoke, i mean yeah, just for us up they came, poor people tend to fit the body, but the both us to preach the body goes to make us make as you, we are pushing women to drill. right. okay. i'm okay. okay. okay. okay. okay. let's settle this chicken situation on watson. okay. because i don't want to talk about it again. yeah. let me give you a chance to respond because the raise your hand them to, to get a, get me to of the whole thing cause, oh, to tell you, i agree. that's it. it has been a general politically mean
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a free cutting uganda as well. we meant even as he stated on everything, his argument that the female he doesn't in positions, but trust me both the melody does us too much in their lives. why? because of because as to why that back then because of the previous couch as so kim saying that the women i've actually been included, it has always been a general problem. go to any traditional home a will mondays marginalized. okay. but let me let, let me, yeah, let me ask and let me ask a question that henri is, you know, when we talk about culture, it's just the general evolution of, of people. so when you say previous cultures, when does a previous culture and then begin now the previous call. so i would say is how they used to be here in the past days. right now, it's felicia and are you in error. the season is if you're a this i never, i never, you should happening right now. so as africa issues and stuff, the blame game of the worst time cost agent for wasting us. we have these very resources. we have the internet, we have all these things. how many times when we have an offer, we can function color on off, we can flush and show that is green viral. no, no one is really by the problem is new to the western culture. we need to check the
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exact place the i get to point out when to do. one of the things i've had so much already is everyone is talking about the ones that doing about the goodness he has that traditional dress. and then the kinds of was the or tentative for me, but when these things are not even designed by the end to begin with, they go, mr. wasn't designed by gun to and may that is, it is material from. yeah, they measure you is from usually the india and even the material for the kinds ease from india. so one does plus that has that's not even not traditional address. someone gave it to was the, the, the, the so, so you see that's why it comes in. so it's them who i reading call tone. the oh. and this is all they are. so test, this is all they have told to us, nothing else has been told to us. do you understand that right away from the culture and they drove us with them. so what we know now they're telling us he's
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not culture, he's on them. so the people themselves are reading cause before they bla, modernization, about language, just being aware that because i'm going in a vision, let's talk about into marriages. which language of a child supposed to learn growing up. so these people who can before us eroded culture and now the blaming modernization, because all of known as cultural alta is go messy them, we send them out the console and if he's telling me today, you want us to add the cloth and we'll cup make, get it okay, that's the, that's henry henry henry, that's a good question. i just want to come to for a 2nd because there's an important point. the phase is really raising that will also adapting a what to down version was some kind of culture. so, so what do you have to say to that, you know, looking to the future, should we blame young people for not taking on what we now know as our culture? i think we're not comfortable with the p, but we have to blame the international communities which has come up to unify that quote and get to global, heated to now on the equity. go mean,
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how do you want to put there a he said that to kind of depends protocol on which we sort of tool. so me, i was punished place for speaking my local along with, you know, those days they would put the address when you yeah. it but the new thing to get that to a phone speaking go look along with the new compound. so yeah. been what 2 did complain african along with these local with this in but you can okay. that started, let me hear from katherine and then i'd like to get some thoughts from the back. please. i would like to set that to 1966 present. milton? no, but to a ballast kingdoms. so that was the beginning of the end as receipts. so when uh the kingdoms, uh balise that was later reinstated by him was 7 in 1993. so you can see the got the yes before not but to think i do show that kingdom is closed. you don't know is your, can you, your princess, you're just there. right. and then when it's come some, some kingdoms with no tree established for example, that include kingdom where i come from. so i don't know where the king is. i don't know as a princess i, you know, have
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a prince is somewhere. i don't know where she is. i says mostly oh, think connecticut. that's why you educated to not know about your culture. so for example, what i love now is what i find on the funding, the village, but that is not necessarily what they practiced in the 1900 rates. so it has been changed and changed. i like you in the gun know still has your culture and your kingdom and your t. i have none. right. okay. uh let me, let me, let me ask for a funny important question here. uh which is that? yes. what is the importance of these simple is ins of uh oh, you guys have like one each of the so what is the importance of all of these symbols in culture? because like you're saying, you know, the kingdom, does it have a place and more than do society, it does mean that you can, has a king, a king as the older rule. so it does have a pleasant modern society, but it doesn't have to be to redid to change some of the practices. you understand
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. we're not saying that culture should go away. we just think they should adapt to the more than a session where we are trying to adapt. they should not judge the ones who are adapting you understand. so now when i show up for apache in my heist, leave dress and dates, it's additional, but it shouldn't be a crime that i'm not wearing a good missy. you understand, we're just saying they do have a plus in the modern society so that they should be ready to adapt. okay. it was a look at what level do we adapt to because it sounds to me like we want to do all the things that are easy, the closing the ceremonies around marriage and naming children. what about politics? what about medicine? yeah, somebody p a. yes. so wasn't supposed to be very good, so give me me. according to me, i think like modernization to a good the best thing that does not affect go to really much because you can do god just as long as you're doing. you can be with your phone, you can do anything which is more than as long as preserving your call, just because it's your traditional food. you can dress in your traditional way as
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you're using the internet as you own what's up you're doing. and then one down thing you want to do, you can, you can do anything like anything given the local dreams, the risk or the what. but it is even though we, we are both of these, it's of the guns why we're doing that on culture. because when you go to school, 1st of all, the wanted to speak english throughout. when you're speaking, look, a language is up but didn't like the want to put an issue. so you'll be, we've all these see how you'd be like, and then there's this and then there's this thing of it comes when you speak of the guns you speak, you look along with like i'm, i'm not totally, i'm speaking out to someone say you're going to be like no me when i speak, i totally, that's going to tell me every time i speak i truly among but done does maybe like. so the thing is like pulling by follow up with the guns you say. so if you don't fix that along with, but then maybe you will get to know what additional food and you'll fill up. it
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sounds, maybe you'll get in greens, they wanted to get chicken accepted. they wanted to get tips with they didn't know before. when you bring your grins up or down, be like what your vet, my step smoking you, you see itself, it comes to a contributing to the things you can do. but then those are the same thing. so yeah, ok, i like that. all right, so you don't have to to stay traditional but also stay more than there was some views of the back there. yeah, let's come here. so coach wiley the days before. oh, mine was expected to go back home quote, for the husband to go the to. but this days there is a 6 to walk home and as to which walk that's been as to where to walk. so they come booklet and have just go buy food then rose, so it took about the family, say teen parents these days. they grew up to look into that kids in english or the kids or somebody of that. yeah. when doing to maybe language i really just the cognitive and couldn't get to that, you know, does like grandparents and that is really a big problem. okay. so for you,
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it's about language, it's about social structures and sort of the rules in that society. i liked that there was some of the points here. i'll be speaking about the impact of western edition towards our daily lives as your guidance. and we want to want to look what nice by adding a booty by adding a, what is this part of our culture that is westernized, it shouldn't. where did he dropped from? from the western roads. we are looking at the implication to western life towards our very own live that we leave here and you're going to, i think we're losing the contents of this topic. okay, all right. all right, let me, let me, let me, let me come back to give you for a 2nd, but before i do right, i think it's fair to say that so far, what we are agreeing on is that the call to sort of seats into one another, right we adopt and we let go of some and we adults and let go some right. and so now i wanted to talk about it in practical terms. yeah. you're really defending
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tradition and culture. what are some of the things well for you, if they did not exist a totally new life? it just wouldn't be the same culture in me is to a major role to the eldest, to make sure the children get to know the identity as the various tribes. like maybe my father, the double jeopardy simila need. so should i, the parents teach that you've been there language just as well as involved as they learn to english from school. so from home, you have the real system. that's the language. now coming to the kind of food we as africans need to appreciate our food as us. so now if you go around the streets of comp, hello, i'm go to and you were to on us for my like long which is under then food. do you and how do you find the trait? and yet we keep seeing you at cochise dang culture. thank the very simplistic looking these more done foods and does it even take the initiative to, to cook this local food is to complain about their version of culture by which 10 mind who's not even in your heart. okay. but let me ask 100, is it fair to expect? i don't know how long it takes to cook my la klein, but some of my traditional foods, you need hours over the stove. does that make sense with the kinds of schedules
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that we have as time moves on? and as we evolve and peak one year, things, some of this things we want to have going to or should be let go cause, i mean, why are we doing so have to keep some of this things. yeah. like we, it's important to keep some things. but it's important when those things are relevant. alright, but my question is if we allow so many things to die out and sort of full by the wayside, what's going to separate us from europeans from asia is from americans. africa was set up to forget to go to, i don't know if they intended it, but they offer kind of setup. when most african countries usually have that one city, which is usually more developed than that. yeah. that is, that people come in and start talking to get at the moment you start mixing. it's so hard to maintain that coverage when you, you're mixed up. so it's always up to everyone. we use that tool to up to the mentor in codes that i told him no does. is that okay?
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so how do we maintain cultural? i'll come to you, but how do we maintain culture in a way that doesn't feel or press the faith in a way that feels like you have a choice? if you want to, where you official clothes, if you want to wear whatever it is or it's whatever it is that you want to be deducted by your family. by the way, what would happen if you told your family, you know, don't go on to follow the customs. and i wouldn't want to know i'd would happen. i really wouldn't want to know, cuz that would mean you feel getting way. why are your deserts and your people just sort of be like the white people which is going to, is not practicing the culture's. does it mean i'm not a super cool anyways, but how do we maintain code so we can constantly remind the children that ok, traditionally this is how we cook the smell. the smell is prepared like these. traditionally. i know that, but i don't have to poke, they send me every day for me to be called to in the home, like this some homes where my took it like my home. my took it must be cooked. i took it when you played. it comes with a stick of things in your hands,
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and after you've built you've failed, you have to squeeze it. you're squeezing what banana leaves. and yet i could just cook rice. i'm surprised then. so let's make it. we can mention culture in a way that we have to understand that you are teaching the child, but you do not have to force the child to do what you're teaching them every day. it becomes a punishment. we will now set to look at the culture as a punishment instead of looking at it in its beauty. yeah. some verses of the back here of the more than one of these sit team that's it's, it works for you quick. if i'm sick, i'll go to the hospital, they're giving me time, but we bucks these make great new. we'll just go to the bush, pick something that would work for you. there's no, i'm going to pick up and go to the motion, pick pets, because they have to go to the hospital and do that. sometimes we even feel like now going back to the cause me. i'd have to stay and come up with a couple of days, so good. have everything. go, go to the, send them out, get everything there for like i need. but then when you tell me, go back to the village, which britney. connie is going to told me to go to
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a good thing. we okay. so this is interesting. so in order for culture to exist, that has to be hardship too much more than convenience is, is not good for the culture change. kind a, all right. as we conclude it's, can you please move this way a little bit? as we conclude, i want to ask a simple question. how do we make sure that we're not losing the best possible culture to west and that they shall know to globally? so let me start with you henry. i think we need to sort of, you uh, our curriculum, our curriculum. not necessarily for the key and uganda, but focusing on africa as a coordinate. the black people be productive. we. that's a bit though, a block of people. we need to cut it to them. that raises assess themes, the black people. it's very unfortunate because i don't want to know for me to call you in the over to which country in europe and countries i've, we've adopted. i've got a new cottage. i don't know whether it's the one twice ever seen yours, then that is even the lowest way using for election, you know, for your or your family best. you know, so you monitors for example,
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you have the best den with o. s out there isn't a humanities. so my concern is why really go ever seem to their wisdom. whereas if we don't do, we don't know what the exist. i've tried. so i, we need a new set of bus that promotes our own indigenous culture in digging us in order to induce us exist as and above. oh, they're brought to people. all right, so kia, how do we retain our african identity and culture even as we participate in the global? well, the best way to do this is let's accept that this a lot of change happening as weekends get something that we identify ourselves with . what we believe as we know, that is that the way we eat the way we dress and have each moving forward. and this comes from the roots of our parents right at home. let's stop with blaming. there were some costs. have you all called saves beauty for like ladies and gentlemen, how would you say somebody told you a cautious do you know if one's culture is between you to accept as an make our speech, it has to be being busted as we want to see it all right face,
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i think maintaining culture sets with you the person. it says to each and every one of us we'll have called his have seen growing up. and if we want to maintain these causes, is we carry them on you and your family should book to see will culture the way you want to. but as you practicing your culture, you should also remember that the world is getting more desperate. and finally, under the beginning, we did say that you said, you know what is that to preserve, having had everything that's been said, have you changed your mind to let, when we say that african coach has being influenced? we do not have to forget that african coach. he's also influenced people elsewhere like today. people are listening to other to about for beads. chris brown, is there anything god forbid, music and no because they are listening to what f k is doing. and they're trying to do it. so we are, as we are being influenced, jo, so influence and someone. all right, thank you very much. well, we did ask if the applicant culture is being erased or being threatened by westernization. and the answer today is of culture is the process of doing
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