see 1000000 people during the workforce. egypt, undeniably indonesia is. economy will pro just to, to have more people and consuming more food. fine will make spikes and cause so inevitably, indonesia, rosa rules question is more all using increasing g d p tablets. uh, you might as well us and those are how you dealing with the challenges of widespread and equality in indonesia. there's an unmistakable sense of indonesia is recent policies have brought it to the cost of a major economic breakthrough. many other emerging economies have been here before without seeing it's true. there's a popular joke about indonesian economic development, which i think is often told about many of the imagine funding these guys. something along the lines of indonesia has a lot of potential. and it will ways well, and so i think there's definitely a big question that the patients of high as a new president prepares to take office 280000000 indonesians hope you can match those high ambitions with reality. the thanks

a lot for watching until the next time. take care the the my name is steve ramsey. i am from the northeast. i think that in the something i used to gamble as how beloved. and i can put 3 full 100 pets on every single day. and i'm to worst i was liza and $1520.00 sided some times every month. so i've been stay the money for

a long time. and i just listened such a mess. and i didn't know how to stop it, and my mind was committed, suicide was the way out. and it would be the best thing for everybody. the target gamblers and lower them in all over europe. sports betting sites run rampant with a max unit bit bit 365, b, when and typical the majority of these platforms belong to a powerful multi nationals. their influence extends far and wide from sports clubs to politicians, the

sultan, parabolic fall since the left. so that the also called please beth so. so these are all say the osha button is substitute for professional capital. so prim, only thing, but also go sit in england. 430000 gamblers have a serious problem when it comes to betting. 55000 of them are age between 11 and 16. the for like all major championships. the fee for world cup is a key event for sports, bidding platforms. football accounts for a large part of their revenue the

time and again, large sporting events, likes the world comp, bring and record high sums for bedding companies. the sports bedding is nothing new, but it used to be limited to specialized setting shops. the don't mean sampras 060 to buy gas or oil in the early 2, thousands, however, the internet revolutionized the sector. 2 we didn't realize it would explode and that everybody would use their phone for all commercial transactions. you enter your banking through the phone, you do your banking through the phone as soon as they, uh, the gambling industry realize that people could place bets on their phones during

matches. then there was an opportunity to capture that particular map market. in 2003, a verdict from the european union cleared the way for operators. citing their commitment to free trade, the court of justice decided in favor of liberalizing online gambling member states despite their skepticism, gradually authorized the creation of online bedding sites which had previously been banned. over the past 20 years, the online market has grown from the millions to the billions. an enormous increase, [000:00:00;00]

the france and britain, or some of the 1st countries to allow online sports spending the . it's really a growth industry and it's becoming increasingly global in terms of the biggest companies, they're a relatively few. most of the big players are u. k. based companies like entertain, flocked to william hill back 365. the british companies have been very successful and expanding overseas matching with other large companies to me, it was like uh like a conquest like an inviting army or something. the industry has

a great deal of power in the sense that the people who own some of the biggest companies are very, very rich. you talking about people who become billy and as in the space of a few years. um, quite a lot of those people uh major fund is a political policies. so they have political influence as well. the national association. i have to say that you can pause for good for allowing us to host our events here tonight. but in a few days before the football world comp, representatives of the sports bedding industry met with the european parliament to discuss statistics good cause as well. the industry has permanent representatives and lobbyist stationed in brussels to influence legislation in

o e u. member states. it was quite an effective, it will be great. they clearly have a lot of positions that they speak to. some of the same law influential. the gambling industry is, you know, having secret meetings with m pays and ministers and saying, look, we, i want you to do this. you know, i've seen evidence of things that documents that have been written by the governing industry. and you compare that the text with the text of a speech given by and, and pay this to say there's an opportunity for the best thing industry to explain to stakeholders under wider community about how the bad thing the street operates. and to raise awareness on the work that we undertake to make counseling safe and responsible, is behind the facade of responsible conduct. however, the industry has practices that push the boundaries of what is legal. technically,

sports betting is banned for minors. but bidding platforms seem to have no qualms about targeting teenagers more and more players are under $25.00. most of them are man we are completely indoctrinating young people. there are some studies that i've read the do show, particularly children, a very, very aware, all the best in companies. they recognize the logo. they can recite and i, but they've seen that can even talk about all the in the u. k is about 60000 children age between 11 and 16 with a gambling problem. mean that, that's up. see if that was children over to tech, to, to head. when that would be a public outcry. this is as bad because we set to do an agenda for the rest of

their lives. they just like to destroy and the more mainly targeting young people in working class areas in the suburbs typically to 18 to 25 age group. and as soon as you turn 18, you can register with us, the national was all just load it unto the teach you how much of the country in that as well. i should go us to keep it to fit a separate support. you are simple to, to keep it to fit. yes, i think it would be for me to do some work to naples. i'm need who works for the, this is a new way of reaching people and it's much, much more effective and actually cheaper in a lot of cases than spending, you know, 50000 pounds on a 22nd commercial on, on sky sports. sports spinning offices operate the same way in most european countries. they capitalize on social frustration and hopes for

a big win. my name is ken robinson. i worked in the gambling industry as an affiliated market to we had access to a huge database. we could use credit card data to target people who maybe are in credit card debt or live in a counselor state. we knew these people were maybe on the lower income scale. so we knew a, they fit the profile of somebody who would deposit on one of the sites the we would target them with offers to join different a gambling site. so let's say i talked to somebody with an advertise 10 pound free, and they ignore the ads. we could then read target them with the not with the bigger office, and it'd be as 20 pounds for you the next day, or 30 pounds free and getting bombarded with more ads,

more ads and more attractive ads until the, the person con. yeah. their congress anymore. it was highly, highly effective. so these compounds were extremely profitable. there was an awareness within the company that i worked for that we were targeting adults and it was something that we would just brush aside. they know a great deals of about the psychological makeup of, of the human mind. they know how people back them. they know how to explain that they know how to exploit optimism hopefulness. they know how to exploits the fact that most people are very bad at calculating from ability. and of course, they exercised that power very cleverly. this power of manipulation and drive people into a diction. the side operators or bookcases,

they are called use various incentives to create an urgent people to keep on playing again and again. and again. there's a thoughtful case on sus, i'm speaking out so that people know what's going on. it's on call. as someone who worked behind the scenes for over 5 years, i have the inside track on how these things work is that you need, i know all too well that the image portrayed on tv is the complete opposite of what actually happens. all they're lying to everyone to my name is sebastian jones who was saying they used to work for the betting side unit batch and defies voltage in that. uni bed is one of your leading operators. it's owned by kindred group, a swedish multi national that's ranked as one of the largest gaming groups in the world. initially for the initially sales figures for a single day might be in the 10s of thousands of yours. by the end,

we were making millions every day i saw some bottom on you. so there was a race to see who could offer the most bad. it's for the biggest range of sports. the previous book was when i joined a unit that for example, they didn't offer ping pong bad or bowls. 16. but i mean, the net stuff got at it. bit by did they talk to, you know, solve, chemist at san diego families office. now the platforms all have one goal, make more bidding available around the clock every day of the week. a foot in football, you can base on any possible outcomes. one goal, 234, or even a goal in the 1st or 2nd time a hit or a free kick, a penalty. and that's just one second. but it just exploded. if there would be 2 or $300.00 best per match. used to be one or 2 baths, and that was the it is a, sorry that i say i wanted to like to also talk to her. there was

a direct line with the marketing department today. they keep sending out push notifications on. you'll find things like tell us what you think of the match, or here are some exciting opportunities for you to talk when he came a move in the end. we were harassing veterans to play to about a year postage. it genuinely encourages addiction gambling over consumption. why would toss it the 1st winning batch, the 1st rush of adrenalin. it's something that most seasons players remember from many it's the beginning of a downward spiral. and there's a much from the tele, an implant that is always advertised. and one of the people i was faced, the time is going to be and go. and i just put a tenant tanqueray, a pilot. and soon as he got the letter this call once as soon as soon as i put in the buy off. um and i just looked in my phone, it said,

but when i'm and it was just an instant saying it was 6 such i think most and now my 2nd now is the start up at. 2 the open, let people wait a little at the stop, but after that there is no escaping. you might have won a bit of money that you lose it just as quickly. you'll re credited it so you can try and we need more money, except it doesn't work anymore. and then beat by beat new, lose money, a little here, little live. but by the end of the year, you're looking at huge losses. that sort of told the to start with i obviously just use my money. i wouldn't be much safe and it's still fun lately. why? but what happened? what then was the operate? it's when just entering the frame,

that's hundreds of pounds this way to put the frame back. because i'd stop down the thing for a few days. i'm. yeah, i'm not going to be back in the psycho and then me everytime they've taken they can escape. they don't put something to entice some pocket. it's like given a drug object, 3 drugs and said, these are free. you can walk away after you've used them. if you've got a problem for them, you can't talk away. so it is symbol, wrote another problem, 6 credit cards on it. and then let's talk in the catalog. it became, it never ends and a cycle of trying to find plenty to pay of tents. and i'm just coming and going out for the options and not was when i took the photos transaction work,

i substituted my bunk accounting. i folded my work now money came and it went straight to pay. that's. ringback the total amount was fixed on the $119000.00 pounds, and that was, i think, and by 60 transactions. oh, laugh full yes. and a tough. but i didn't buy test between stockton, it's, it's all the, i've never seen an operate of band or even contact to play. and because of the gambling too much, i've never seen bouquets do anything with regards to prevention. despite also the operators are required by law to identify players who have developed an addiction and to prevent excessive gambling actions

by yeah, spend the festive as long as the player doesn't come forward and leave a written paper trail. they're not going to do anything on the test on, so that's how they think it's not our responsibility. you know, our job is just to provide entertainment. at that point, we'll turn a blind eye to the players gambling addiction, football st. patuto shoes where we could really make a huge breakthrough on gambling addiction if we sacrifice 15 percent of the prophets. i did propose to the board over numerous years that we should take more or more measures about addiction. but i should have been wise. i was only talking to the walls and the truth is they are looking for a solution to the pots of money. if there were, since they are, that would change the product. a steward, county co chaired, flutter, one of the largest online gambling groups in the world. in 2016. he's company sales topped

a 1000000000 pounds but he suddenly made the decision to resign from the board of directors. i've been put my car for 45 years. i don't regret it, and in fact, the truth is i've been cutting myself for a long time. i was no longer proud of what i'd create the mail within a few days. and so i went all my chairs, i have a choice, i speak up for shuffle in his field store, kenny is seen as a trailblazer, a man who modernized sports betting. he opened his 1st offices in ireland, called patty power. back then bouquets made most of their money via bidding on horse races.

the steward realized that this image was becoming outdated and launched advertising campaigns that left quite the impression i life shocking. so one of the 1st advice to was one with grand these 2 grand, he's going to cost a pedestrian crossing one of the montezuma frame. and there was a big jeep coming towards them. now we were saying which brandy would win going across the pedestrian crossing. but was quite clear when it really was was refresh when we got knocked down and a junction run up all the newspapers and said i'm going to the face on post or on behalf of a traction. it was on the front page of all the newspapers. we want ecstatic. that's all we wanted to. so i, the power is now known as flow for the overall holding company. and they have taken

over numerous bookmakers and it is a totally different business. a. so that's a, is a global corporations, and it is now become pretty much the biggest gambling company in the world that's grown so much over the past 1520 years. you're now looking at a global operation with a stock market value of, i think more than $25000000.00 and, and that is comparable to some of the largest companies listed on the london stock exchange. if he takes a test code is the biggest supermarket chain in britain, flats, it is bigger than not the gambling industry now takes almost 15000000000 pounds every year from people in the u. k. but it's the clear link between best thing and mental illness which has sparked demands for rich and touch and to cut this addiction. the in recent years,

organizations in the u. k. have been trying to curb the growing power of these bookmakers with petitions, marches, and public appeals. they demanded the government to provide greater protections. finally, politicians to come to the pressure. on february 4th, 2020, the hands of britain's biggest multinational gambling corporations were called to parliament and to show that she may i think it would be very helpful to offer some offer us some thoughts on what you think the benefits of the sector all for u. k, p o c for consumers, we're an industry which supports unemployed is a 107000 people in this country. we contribute. bolden, 14000000000 to the u. k. come to me, we make

a contribution to the treasury of 3500000000 pounds every year. the custom to operating in the shadows here, these companies were publicly held to account sufficient evidence result to accept including all of us that you happens to uh, protect it and get safe, all of your customers. we need to know what your commit to today. so it's great for today at what you know, i'm clearly is not enough. like i'm not going to sugar coated with you. you know, 99 percent of the customers who plan other sites will lose. so you know that you can play more, you probably losing more, i'll just call, i'll just be very straightforward. i do think some of the gambling ones have got to aggressive. we are the, you have to incentivize to play for them more than more, to get better tickets, more bonus, easy, eccentric cetera. we're working with the,

the gc and the 14 other operators on it. and we will be suggesting changes the c one game. if you win too often, the operator will put a number of measures in place to prevent you from winning more than it. yeah, that's is necessarily or that please. of course it's choosing. they want to keep the people who make them the most money and eliminate those who lose them the most for their state profiling people. there's a service dedicated to it, which they used to profile players and categorize them according to their business style and oil. seem to the valley in fact, there is a screen which shows that it's taken by old players in real time. players whose being profiled and flagged is risky, appear in a separate color to fill the van and introduce and the rain and blue shield customers who post less of a risk the ones who are going to lose between 10 and 20 percent of what they gambled. maybe

a bit more so i went worried about those ones. they're good clients on the end, so they come to the site and they lose their money. and then alongside that, we had the opposite. the warmer color show the customers to watch out for the customers we had flagged as dangerous. there's an indoors what in the software, so you get to go. uh, these are the shots, the category hayes and the ones that appear in bright red at the book make is really shocking shots of people who generally when a lot of money in sports bashing and who regularly bait the book make is and better . because i think you're, you know, a course, i think over here our role was to identify any player who even remotely resembled a shock and send the basing id to the profiling department to show natalia was always pushed as on this account. so now these are people who are going to have to advance limits agents. and for example, where an average person can place a $1000.00 euro event,

they'll only be able to put down $100.00 euro's of weight. so we let them play very little low. we stopped them from playing as old. well, we put all the bits on hold anymore. we used all the means that the science disposal to prevent that person from playing the nose on the it's a business we're only the losers are welcome truly. only losers are allowed to play . we're trying to maximize and optimize the losses of certain customers. you know, the, i think that in 20 years or so i must have lost at least 3000000 euro. so unfortunately, i can't help myself. if you put a 100000 euro into my account, what all gamble it away in 2 minute is wondering if rafael gambled on the french side with a max for 4 years. he himself was a businessman. but during this time,

he lost all his sense for the value of money on the multi function. so it's hard to imagine those kinds of figures and not even my family and close friends know about it. oh cool. so if you lose large amounts of money with the government company, you'll get a message saying, you know, congratulations, you are now part of the company's v. i based game. this is any of them. is this the c of class at the start of 20? 19, when i was new to when a max i had already lost the 10s of thousands of years after a monic states. i was contacted by the v i. p managers. most of it is whose name was antoine the old one. the accurately said it was very welcoming, very nice person. if i had any questions or problems, i could go straight to him, but as he found me, you liked them all. when the company calls you of the i paint, i mean you're a loser. but of course i told you that the i paid because that makes you feel like a winner. on flat and new contact image san juan, contacted me and said, raphael for your birthday, the site wants to take you to a football match of your choice. and we mentioned the foot board swell inside. okay

. they basically create a unique customer experience so that people feel on it to lose them money or something. so there's a reality to the flag cuz i did, i kept telling him that i was in financial trouble and then i had to stop and i said it was debating whether to leave the program temporarily or permanently that each time antwan managed to convince me it was better to opt out temporarily rather than leave for good if you would always tell me on once i left, i couldn't come back. this is this solution that is against all odds during a series of impulsive and random bits made one evening in october 2019, rafael hit the jackpot, and 1750000 heroes. he immediately asked when a match to pay out the money. so he could pay off his debts. we'd amex at east west and it was

a pull that you did when emax had 72 hours to complete the transaction development . i got a call from antwan and he said, rafael, are you sure you want us to pay out the money so that you could use it to keep playing on our site? and i said no and explained that i needed the money from the expect. and also i think those ones at the home then altima all sudden will happen. don't call in the next day. and twan called me again, but more time he asked how i was doing. and if i was happy to have lunch with me, it was at the end of our conversation. he asked me again, raphael, are you sure you want us to pay out the money? i will call you and you called a 3rd time the following day. and so that's when i came in as a cookie shortage. when she's over the next 36 hours, i places 8 bags and lost the entire 750000 europe. things i needed to sits on top of, you know, the

business reason to have a v i p. c. as in any commercial enterprise, expect a different level of service and we're providing what we try to ensure that these customers are looked after. i'm, we're acting responsibly with that's the key tenant of our relationship with these customers. so may, more worrying was the fact that v i p countless or a less than times more likely to become problem gamblers. and certainly from hearing from problem gamblers, i felt the whole psychology of it the whole way was such how was actually very predatory. i'm actually prayed on the vulnerabilities of, of people. this is certainly something that we would be concerned about. all you do . could we, we show you concerns are owned business. we've got 3000000 customers. uh, we've a 100 c. i t's enough business of 3000000 on the river, one percent of revenues for our business. it's not in our area. we focus on it's

another area we invest in. and i also like to, to point out to make it very clear that just because you're a, the p doesn't mean you're probably younger, there are dark darwin, video stuff can afford paying at higher levels. they seems like a good idea at the time they turn out to be a disaster. the hey, it's led to all sorts of ideas and they should back by and b, i piece games and pre bets. scrap them, get rid of them, complete the, i don't think that the industry is capable of successful self regulation. in theory, operators are monitored by national regulatory authorities. in practice, however, their powers are limited by a conflict of interest. governments receive a percentage of the money wagered online if i say that if case, you know, yeah, you will. if it's true seal, there's a rather complicated relationship between the state as

a protector of its people getting the and the state which is through the taxation of gambling. also, benefits from market revenue. uh, roughly speaking, it brings in around 5 to 6000000 a year for the state, or rather for the public sector. that's a considerable sum. and the challenge for the regulators is to operate autonomously with spite of this reality, which they know to know me. hop on situational studies in various you countries have shown that while gambling does provide tax revenue, it also comes with a hefty price tag by putting a massive strain on the states, social and health care services. as well as if she was gonna say, no man, and i need to do an addiction, should not be treated as a purely private matcher. and we'll place what we've seen recently in the u. k. for example, is that for every person addicted to gambling, but 6 other people are affected, maybe not because they become addicted to. but because it causes problems within the family unit at school, at the university and so on. it's clear that addiction is becoming

a social problem under the yeah, no problem. so charlotte is a social problem because very often people love a problem account, but they will turn to what something else in order to i the simple, they gambling or to vent around and get their own and wish athena a problem down below. so we see domestic violence will increase the anti social behavior, the b test. as a result of it, it is the hospitalization doctor visits the nurses who have to deal with the optim off of the damage, which is caused by gambling both physically and mentally to people who have a gambling problem. that is, a, is a very significant costs, but it's a hidden cost and it's a cost. the gambling industry itself pretends doesn't exist. was this yes, equal my crew, good old folks. it up with that i am convinced that we need to step up protection domain. gambling has moved out of it's a specialized, highly technical domain because it's,

and it's become an everyday consumer product. and the difficulties for a regulator like ours is that the tools we have, i believe these are not fully adapted to this new situation. and that they said nobody seemed to issue the so far, the french state seems to be satisfied with basic prevention messages. the one possible way to protect betters from developing an addiction to gambling would be to ban bidding science from taking out sports sponsorships. but that would be challenging, given how deeply they've already penetrated most areas of the sports industry or the gambling industry. it isn't the only industry in town, but it's the one with the biggest check is for one with face, with the biggest project when it comes to sports advertising the from the clubs point of view,

it maximizes revenues from the families point of view. it allows the clubs to potentially recruit the best suppliers and from the gambling companies point to view, it increases brand awareness and increases the level of the site was. you could say everybody wins gambling, how many spend a lot of money on football? because there are more than a 1000000000 funds in the world, right. it is just so visible. so you know that if you advertise on a company shut, you're going to be seen by hundreds of millions of people. it's really the best advertising space there is in the world right the for the 2020 to 2023 season. out of the 20 clubs in the englishman's premier league, 9 team jerseys had the name of a gambling company printed on the sleeve or chest of the 5 major european leagues. france had the highest number of teams with the logo of

a betting side on their kid. around half of all jerseys in germany, there was only one going to sleep, good team to do so. shirts sponsorship has been banned in italy since 2019. it's been followed suit in 2021. how many football clips in paperless, and what we call survive without betting money. but there's a lot of troops who can and i think it's about the business model. if you've got relying back to archie lacey was england's best ever going people, but secretly he had a serious gambling diction. chilton now admits he lost millions since recovering with the help of his wife step. now campaigns for stronger regulation the i can. nitrous thing keeps the newspapers as

a young lots which suicide. and i kept saying to pay to all my goodness. you could make such a big difference. so we just so yeah, we'll come out. we'll, you know, we went on to national tv. i'm we total store rate, and we've done media 100 interviews. we started to be talked about a lot more. and bro and the open, you know, and i need needs to be, i know, i remember the 1st time we went into paul and then i lost a lot of public health. nothing focuses of public health issue. and then a most sky public. how did you report tonight? so we opened up a very ugly roll conversation. you know, the, the industry just needs not just talked about radical change and it needs to come from, you know, from, from governments. and to me it just didn't seem to be coming. i went in a very skeptical because of the financial situation. my,

my the government continue to do nothing which is why in march 2022 sports men and women and peas and non profit organizations rally the public called for the urgent overhaul of bedding regulations. money in the interest rate is talking. oh no, because there's revenue from that. they get that revenue from dick's people can't afford to lose it. so why on earth are we not doing why the government and pets chip pump petitions? don't do anything about it. and i'll tell you why, because much when we get back on this matter, we'll get history based on the government thing. go well, you know, let's move on over because it smooth this over this just a time and the price. now to make a difference. the

general tab picking up the job for the industry. and in this place we have an opportunity to officially challenge the industry. but it has a difficult batler. the industry low be is very aggressive. you see, when we have debates, where we have a certain politicians who obviously of a relationship with the low b, will come in and defend the industry. to extraordinary, let's in some cases i'm just somebody you can see the damage that this caused a month to help people to stop them getting involved and knocked down much. we've got the ability to enjoy the we have to do through with official john those they are able to show took it that, that all demands will always be around the financial benefits to the treasury or to the country as opposed to the actual cost of supported on the deck ship, the i think when we do prohibition

then we and we and we significantly reduce the experience of the product and then that's when you push players offshore. and we also have to be mindful that if we, if we make any regulation too and next inflexible, then we risk, we have the very real channeling risk at just pushing people into off your site. so we absolutely recognize the issues at law chair, it's just we need to just be tactful of unintended consequences to close that barrier slash now, if i use that argument all the time one, every time i ones that the tax decrease and bad thing and out and i said, black markets old off the black markets, and we'll play that black mazda vote. are you going to lend the credit card to a black market operator? that's what i'd say. it's a great argument. black markham black. that's

a lot of baloney, may. i thank you all very much indeed. now. so the committee to stay behind for a moment, but that that concludes the public session and thank you very much. indeed. i will be pessimistic about what happens with the present gum. i think they are so desperate to fill the coffers of the taxpayer that they will not upset the industry . the bedding companies in britain and france still only face weak regulations or restrictions on their marketing pre beds, v i p or sports sponsorships,

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