and put the resume in iran and its proxy fighters his bullet at the mos on notice. now it wasn't a declaration of war, but it was as close as it against the word ceasefire. it was not uttered, not even once since then to man his beloved commander and the political leader of hamas had been killed. iran is blaming is real and vowing revenge us today said that it had no knowledge and no involvement in the killings. how is that possible? tonight? america's influence over it is real. it looks mighty weak, nothing. y'all, whose ability to keep his word does not break off in berlin. this is the day. the exam is valid, exact and heavy price for any aggression guides to some any arena. the

we in demolition through til and painful operation. and it was supposed to happen. i consider what happened during a run to be a conspiracy you mention with the reading president and diamond is really a tough company. i'm not going to speculate on what impact any one of that might have the also coming up and trying for the positive spin. the us as an escalation of the middle east conflict is not inevitable. and that a ceasefire between israel and come off is still possible. i think it's too soon to know what any of these reported events could mean for this inspired deal. but if i could add 2 points, one is that doesn't mean we're going to stop working on it. in fact, we have a team in the region right now as we speak,

to try to continue to work with our car parts to move this forward because it's that important to our viewers watching on tv, as in the united states and to all of you around the world welcome. we begin the day with an angry and humiliated rainy and machine bowing to take revenge against israel. on wednesday, iran announced the death of one of its closest allies. the top from us leader is my own media and assassination on the rainy and soil that the regime immediately blamed on israel. and the year was in t wrong to attend the inauguration of the newly elected the rainy and president. he was importantly killed in a pre dawn air story that could end up triggering it all out. and we're in the middle east. well, after the october 7th terror attacks last year, israel pledge to kill him, the and other from us leaders. but today is really prime minister benjamin netanyahu said nothing of and he is dead. but he said israel will exact a heavy prize for any aggression against it on any front into

a wrong. we can only imagine the shock and disbelief an air strike the targeted moss leader inside the uranium capitol as revealed massive failures by your runs intelligence. and it's republican national guard at the new president to the equation along with the region that still cracking down on domestic descent. and you have a full fledged crisis in the islamic republic for its leaders. and for those proxy groups that allow iran to wield power across the middle east is male, had you a greasy ron's new president? and what would be one of his last meeting just attending the president? sanction he and his body judge were killed in the strike. the mack who me when we indemnity as a brutal and painful operation the case of almost all god winning with the efforts of the security forces and reports will be given to the people as soon as possible

with issues about the my request is the necessary works to be done yet. so those responsible don't feel like they can help us. it's like that rivers. and then at the time of the day, i mean, it was the political face of how much the military is the metal groups that carried out all the toys. miss susan, tara attacks on israel come us spies is killed around $1200.00 people and took the $150.00 on his hostage. nearly hell. i knew i had not lived in guys or for several years, but ran from us from top to we. he lived in a crime born near a guy, b, c, g, 10. the 62 years old was a child of palestinian refugees from the village of drew. yet as he joined him, us when it was founded in 1980 stephen and was arrested in jail by israel during the 1st intifada, the uprising again it's randy occupations. mia was exiled to live and on,

but he returned to guys the phone. the 1993. i was like, sees the team, he became the palestinian prime minister in 2006, and continued to rise through how mazda is rang, eventually become, and its political change in 2017. mazda is gaza, lead to yes, yes. and what is believe to have been the mazda mind to feel to have a similar tech. and mia was seen as a more moderate. and how much as the last several of his own family members, and is really a tax on gaza, which have killed nearly $40000.00 people since then. 3 of her news, sons, and 4 of his grandchildren were killed in the, at the time. and mia and sister did do, would not fix on going ceasefire and hostage told me

represented homeless internationally and moved around the region for diplomatic meetings. he was a key player in negotiations to stop the fighting and gaza. some fia, his killing will be a major sit back and achieving piece in the region is real, has not claim responsibility for him. he is killing, but it's prime minister benjamin netanyahu spoke today about an earlier strike on the route that killed a hezbollah leader. flung sugar, you said back shilling and others and had shown that israel had delivered, crushing blows to all of our enemies. and then yahoo said that his country is ready for whatever lies ahead. as citizens of israel, challenging days lie ahead. now that since the striking baby boots the rest threat sounding from all directions and we are prepared for any scenario, we will stand united and determines against any threats is very well exact,

the heavy price for any aggression against those from any arena, hold 0 actually. i my 1st guest is certain 25 years in israel's defense intelligence community, and that includes being head of it's iran and research branch is now with the atlantic council and specializes in the middle east national security and intelligence. i'm happy to welcome back to the program, danny, it's a trend of it standing. it's good to see you again. it's good to have you on the program, you know, as well as i do, the middle east has been a power cag for a long time. what do these 2 killings at the top of his below and tomas what did they mean for the risk of it all? well, wider were breaking. yeah. well uh them send you having the uh, i think that, uh, uh, as it describes the thing right to. so we owned a bunch of, uh, severe escalation and even the regional war, i think those 2 events are putting us closer and closer as all those defense

benefits coming out from taylor. i'm and tomorrow we're here from the secretary general summers run up. talking about that as well. the nice thing is that we are, it's something it won't be contained in a way that maybe to intervene by the us or the original superpower. and i think that the escalation is almost imminent. and i see that uh, we are close as we have a beam direct glass between the east rather because by law and definitely between that is one of the places that you've ever been. what needs to happen immediately to pull both sides back from the brink, in your opinion, the associates, the i am not a very good good use of thing. there is no, not enough that this thing that someone can take or do in order to prevent the reaction from you on our end because by law we tend jason against these rooms lubricating,

also super and swelling. the things up easily doesn't have to absorb this friday and then hopefully the input saw in most of the time, right? what happens quoting, so vapor. and then if we're able to for lift, then we'll maybe with time limit that response. and maybe we can contain b, but the real problem just decide that it's not only the only easement contained the current situation that we have to remember that's without the see sign in augusta. but that, so let me continue and why both sides all 5 sites big with fire. i think it's safe to assume that even it will contain the chords installation in the future. one is just around the corner. so months we have a very both of the situation and i hope that after the retaliation of this, but let me run it to the end. it will be we tell you guys and a things a $5.00 tree. and they said that when we thought it, i hope that the domestic community was intervene, pressuring both sides to contain a future, right? we thought issue because these not escalation, like i mentioned the imminent and without some of that will be the end of the day.

will be able to contain the current situation when the final system to the left full stage war that nobody wants. but i think we are very close to be there. well, he is really prime minister last week when he spoke in washington, he gave a very long speech. he did not mention the word ceasefire once in his speech. and i know that israel promised after the october 7th terror attacks to kill, you know, the other hamas leaders. but honey, it was also one of the main point me and one of the main people involved in the negotiations about a possible seized part and also about a possible hostage deal. so it doesn't look like it's really, really wants that ceasefire to take place. is that your read on what? nothing yahoo wants as well again, it's really hot so easily lives you rather than trying to have

a lead use when. ready assistive especially with any else, but i would say this, i think that's a, it's made at the, uh, from the civic product over. it was obvious that these right, we've been going to, it's our, him. but the main problem right now is that you mentioned is the fact that we have no other choice in that regard. those are between of ceasefire and i'm not sure that the killing is made. let me uh, would it get us closer to these problems that need to in, in terms of reaching that agreement and you know, ron of negotiations boma come us at the cutter. i think i'm like seeing a blog he was interested in looking at a deal. again is not a good many of the parents are very bad man, but if you want to release of hostages, things of kidding i'm you know, i'm not really getting us closer to where we want to be. i think now we have to wait until the new guys, hopefully a y, that's what we sort of deal. so the bottom of things, i think, showing that in general terms of the 7th of the something is,

wasn't sponsored too fast for the current situation. i'm not sure what the feeling and we promote deal as i'm sort of this thing that it was a sole one, but you have to wait and see what's uh, how things with developing. ready the future without a sunday, i'm very pessimistic for the chances for deals and the co into weeks and even months. you said that you're not convinced that killing amelia is going to be um, productive for israel, for getting a ceasefire. the united states, the secretary of state said today that the us had no knowledge of the plan to kill any yet. and also it was not involved in the plan. that's hard to believe. but if that is the truth, what does that tell us then about the relationship between is real and it's most important and why the united states, and what does it tell us also about washington's ability to influence is re, to the same to those countries. let's close house 12 corporation between them. but

those are independent, i think, is where the have to do defense to take the lead event decision in order to prove it secuity. but goes without saying the euro would need us back up, especially if we are the 2 basic need to. ready or that is why i think it's imperative to make sure that the american administration know what is what he wants to do. know what, how is the wants of things to be develop? and i think we wouldn't be highly dependent. but then also we tell you. ready whether going towards or using the us to contain the pressure iran emphasis policy, we do that, but his government not to escalate even further. the thing is that's what god i don't think needs to be the kitchen. how strong the cooperation nasal correction is . i think it's quite strong, but i think it definitely got i think the administrator is highly glory. it's once he's what he's doing right now. when did you with the situation in. ready those good lord and i think the pressure all sides because it active, it is towards the future. okay. dennis and turn events as always we appreciate your

time, appreciate your valuable analysis to night. thank you. thank you very much. well, immediately after the strike on wednesday morning, you're wrong bound to take revenge for the killing of it's my of any of the he had come to tell you wrong for the inauguration of the runs the president lawsuit possess key on the president today said that iran will quote, defend its territorial integrity, dignity honor, and pride, and will make the terrorist occupiers regret their cowardly act. i was and did a statement read out on the reading and television, the country supreme leader. i told her all the whole money directly threatened israel and claiming that it had leave the ground for a harsh punishment. and it was a runs duty to seek revenge for the killing of it's my own. i need, you know, yes, called about to leave. for more, i'm joined now by ali. i told the design director of the center for middle east and

global order. he joins me. you're not from right here in berlin. it's good to see you. again. iran promising to punish is real but with in iran, leadership after the killing of honey it into a rod. do you think that there will be consequences for this failure in intelligence and national security inside the wrong one in terms of the consequences? i'm not sure of but then again it's very clear that there are being such deficits and huge deficits on terms of providing security in terms of air defenses. and so it's a quite a she navigation for the right hand side after all the year was a top regime guess going to, to iran, to a time to the inauguration or the, or the president must have business, john, and also meeting together with the out of the power students nomic jihad

with the supreme leader of the last year on the, the harmony that then you know, to so powerful it's not real public or ron was not able to protect one of these, she lives in one of his top gas. so there is lots of pressure now i'm sure you know in the wrong to respond to that kenning. yeah, iran is bound to take revenge. do we know what that could possibly look like, as well as the new york times reports that were just published an hour or so ago is correct. um, uh this morning when there was an emergency meeting of the supreme national security console, which isn't a lead buddy task to deal with vide so national security and foreign policy issues . at this meeting, us supreme leader of the harmony according to the new york times and its sources

has ordered the wrong to strike israel drake. so difficult. this of course, would present. uh, you know, a huge escalation uh, potentially uh, but then again be made. see um, what we saw, what we saw on april 13th uh with the unprecedented address, a sort of buyer on an as well. uh, which uh, you know, there's a lot of confusion about that. but after, you know, at the end of the day, these various, together with the support of the united states and its regional partners, were able to defend israel quite strongly. so maybe, uh, this kind of, uh, you know, scenario going to be repeated. uh, basically uh, being a show for us from the iranians side. but beyond that, of course, the lawn can activate different components of the so called excess of a resistance. the who's these and gammon, who have also launched

a long range besides quite recently a to ease well uh, but also pro iranian, amid dishes in iraq and syria, a truck, the re targeting you uh, the us military presence there. and so of course not least testable in the north of, uh, israel, but then again, uh to potentially not to the extent of, you know, the, i mean, at the end of the day the, the amount remains that you, iran, it has to show a kind of a face saving response, but then again, it would be a huge risk to draw in the united states into uh, to me, at least for yeah. and also creates a veritable northern front between has but on and the east. well, at the end of the which you run a news is crown jewel as well. let me just ask you about how mosse and his bullet their, their face, and trust in the radian regime. i mean, is it,

it has to be shaken now or, or how do you see it? oh, that there was some, you know, shaking credibility all along since october 7th, because of iranian reluctance to strike, you know, these rout directly. um, so um this particular, the credibility problem amounted to the kind of iranian director sold that we saw on april 13th. uh so again, uh yes, it's a credit ability problem for the song republic both with its inside a supportive base but also must know to be within the excess of, uh, you know, the so called excess of resistance. um, uh, but the iranians uh, you know that this quite a bit of the problem has to be dealt with. uh, but then again we,

we cannot forgot about there was a clear pattern of dependence. one sided lead. so that is disabled, has a mouse, or the one sort depended upon a test runs support and not vice versa. okay, i'll wait until the new john director of the center for middle east in global order . we appreciate your time and your analysis tonight. thank you. good, seeing you again to thank you with the background to honey is kili is the word and gaza between him oss it is real. the us has been pressuring is really to agree to a ceasefire, but these really government has resisted any of death, makes a ceasefire. seem less likely than ever. nevertheless, the body ministration thinks that it's still possible. i want you to listen to what the us national security council spokesman john kirby said about that today. we still believe there's a viable process. we still believe there's interest in counterparts and we still

believe that there are meetings and discussions to be had. we wouldn't have a team over there right now. if we didn't believe that it was possible to try to gather, gather together and push this forward, or the state of washington mail good, our correspondence bill lounge, he's following the story for us. so janelle, weakness and fear. let's start with weakness. the fact that israel was able to possibly carry up his assassination to the fact that the us was unable to, to sway as real, to do something differently. us influence on israel is anything but strong. is that what you are hearing right now in washington? of the well, in a word brenda. yes. and the fact that the us did not know about this attack of dots according to the secretary of state and to the blinking. and that this attack was not co ordinated by washington. that kind of does seem a bit more indicative of the limited influence that the us appears to have. but it's also worth noting out that this idea that the u. s. has long been unable to

exert influence on israel effectively. it's worth pointing out that that has been a discussion here for a longer time that you asked for all it's a part of israel for it's a part of its military campaign for all the diplomatic cover that the u. s. has provided at the you when and the un security council, the fact that it's the by israel, in terms of the health to get send off a tax off from iran. the us has been kind of like a passenger in district in it's been unable to press iran into a achieving certain kind of goals such as are appearing, appearing more restrained or getting more humanitarian aid into gaza. so prime minister benjamin netanyahu was just here last week. he met with bite and he met with harris who spoke before congress. and the white house also made it clear then that what they wanted to see was not in yahoo is

a full backing of this ceasefire. hosted release field, it came and went without having given that backing. and that clearly shows you that he was not pressured to do that. but what everyone here is also aware of is of that benjamin then yahoo, more than anything is motivated by domestic concerns by domestic pressure is his personal ambition. perhaps his goal of staying in power. and that is a square the washington that has not been able to circle. yeah. and now let's talk about the fear. the big fear is that the united states will be drawn into a wider, more in the middle least. is there a sense in washington tonight that is indeed what could be happening now? i mean there is an argument to be made that saw that a wider regional conflict was happening. all right, do you have the who sees and the red sea have bought a rain and back to militias in iraq and syria,

and these tensions between israel and has the loss. but of course, saw the fear that this could motivate the iran, and it's proxies to the exact so a very harsh response, of course, and a drag that us into a wider, into an even deeper conflict of course. so that is a concern here. now for now, the white house is maintaining this line, the tell a wider escalation is not necessarily inevitable john kirby, who or who's our quote we played there earlier in the show. he also said that today, but also worth noting that this is a region that is full of where the u. s. is, is very much of represented. the white house has been saved, that it still sees a diplomatic solution as the way forward for a more peaceful and secure region. but you can certainly tell that nerves are on edge here. yeah. yeah. i mean, amazing. the they're,

they're taking the positive spin on this, what we'll see if that's where events indeed to take is janelle, in washington. janelle, thanks for your recording. thank it was a day, it continues online. you'll find this on the x also known as twitter, and youtube dw news. you can follow me on social media, bring dot tv, and remember whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day we'll see you then everybody the

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