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on notice now it wasn't a declaration of war, but it was as close as it gets the word ceasefire. it was not uttered, not even once since then to man his beloved commander and the political leader of hamas had been killed. iran, his blaming is real and vowing revenge us today said that it had no knowledge and no involvement in the killings. how is that possible? tonight? america's influence over it is real. it looks mighty weak, nothing. y'all whose ability to keep his word does not. i'm for a golf in berlin, this is the day the exam is valid exactly. a heavy price for any aggression guides to some any arena. the, the maximum equipment we had demolition through tool and painful operation
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and it was supposed to happen. i consider what happened during a run to be a conspiracy you mention with the reading presidential diamond is really a talked coupling. i'm not going to speculate on what impact any one event might have. the also coming up and trying for the positive spin, the us as an escalation of the middle east conflict is not inevitable and that they cease fire between israel and tomas is still possible. i think it's too soon to know what any of these reported events could mean for this inspired deal. but if i could add 2 points, one is that doesn't mean we're going to stop working on it. in fact, we have a team in the region right now as we speak to try to continue to work with our counterparts to move this forward because it's that important the
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to our viewers watching on tv as in the united states and to all of you around the world welcome. we begin the day with an angry and humiliated iranian regime bowing to take revenge against israel. on wednesday, iran announced the death of one of its closest allies. the top from us leader is my own media and assassination on the rainy and soil that the regime immediately blamed on israel. and the year was in a wrong to attend the inauguration of the newly elected the rainy and president. he was reportedly killed in a pre dawn, ears drawing that could end up triggering it. all of them were in the middle east or after the october 7th terror attacks last year. israel pledge to kill him the and other from us leaders, but today is really prime minister. benjamin netanyahu said nothing of and he is dead. but he said israel will exact a heavy price for any aggression against it on any front into a wrong. we can only imagine the shock and disbelief an air strike the targeted
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moss leader inside the rainy and capitol as revealed massive failures by your runs intelligence. and it's republican national guard added the president to the equation along with the region that still cracking down on domestic defend. and you have a full fledged crisis in the swamp republic for its leaders. and for those proxy groups that allow iran to wield power across the middle east is male, had you a greasy ron's new president? and what would be one of his last meeting? just attending the president erection. he and his body judge were killed in his strike. the mack who mute, currently we in demolition, brutal and painful operation. the case of almost all god winning with the efforts of the security forces and reports will be given to the people as soon as possible with issues about the my request is the necessary works to be done yet. so those
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responsible don't feel like they can have that representative at the time of his teeth. i mean, it was the political face of how much the military is. the medical group carried out all the all toys. miss susan, tara attacks on israel from us. spies is killed around 1200 people and took me 250 of his hostage, nearly still held on you. i have not lived in gaza for several years, but ran from us from top top where he lived an exile for near a guy. the c g 10, the 62 years old was a child of palestinian refugees from the village of drew. yet as he joined him, us when it was founded in 1980 stephen and was arrested in jail by israel. during the 1st intifada, the uprising again it's randy occupations. mia was exiled to live and on,
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but to return to guys the phone, the 1993. i was like, sees the king. he became the palestinian prime minister in 2006, and continued to rise through how mazda is rang, eventually become, and its political change in 2017 mazda is gaza, lead to, yes, yes. and what is believe to have been the mazda mind to feel to have a similar tech. and mia was seen as a more moderate. and how much just as easily as lost several of his own family members and is really a tax on gaza, which have killed nearly $40000.00 people since then. 3 of her news, sons, and 4 of his grandchildren were killed in the, at the time. and media insisted that they would not fix on going ceasefire and hostage told me represented homeless internationally and moved around
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the region for diplomatic meetings. he was a key player in negotiations to stop the fighting and gaza. some fia, his killing will be a major sit back and achieving piece in the range of israel has not claim responsibility for him. he is killing, but it's prime minister benjamin netanyahu spoke today about an earlier strike on the roof that killed a hezbollah leader. flung sugar, you said back shilling and others and had shown that israel had delivered, crushing blows to all of our enemies. and then yahoo said that his country is ready for whatever lies ahead. as citizens of israel, challenging days lie ahead. now that since the striking paved roads, the rest threat sounding from all directions, and we are prepared for any scenario, we will stand united undetermined against any threats is very well exact, the heavy price for any aggression against those from any arena, hold 0,
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actually. i my 1st guest is certain 25 years and israel's defense intelligence community. and that includes being head of it's iran and research branch is now with the atlantic council and specializes in the middle east national security intelligence. i'm happy to welcome back to the program. danny, it's a trend of it. stand it, it's good to see you again. it's good to have you on the program. you know, as well as i do, the middle east has been a power cag for a long time. what do these 2 killings at the top of his below and tomas what do they mean for the risk of it all? well wider we're breaking. yeah. well them send you having the i think that the as the describe the thing right to so we owned advantage of uh, severe escalation and even the region of the war i think goes to events of putting us closer and closer as off only those to advance by the sweats coming out from taylor, i'm and tomorrow we're here from the secretary general. first on this run up,
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talking about that as well. the nice thing is that we are, it's something it won't be contained in a way that maybe some intervene bind to us or the original superpower. and i think that the escalation is almost imminent. and i see that uh, we are close as we have a beam direct last between the east rather because by law and definitely between that is where any one of the places that you've ever been, what needs to happen immediately to pull both sides back from the brink, in your opinion, this associates the i am not a very good good use of thinking there is no, not enough that this thing that someone can take or do in order to prevent the reaction from you on our end. because by the time jason against these rooms lubricating, also i shall go and explain to me. yeah, i think that is what does it have to absorb this friday?
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and then hopefully the input, sorry, most of the time, right? what happens quoting so vapor. and then if we're able to for live, then we'll maybe with time to, to limit that responsibility we can contain it. but the real problem just decide that it's not only the only easement contained the current situation that we have to remember that's without the ceasefire in augusta but that so we'll continue. and why both sides all 5 sites big with fire. i think it's safe to assume that even it will contain the chords installation in the future. one is just around the corner. so months we had a very both of the situation and i hope that after the retaliation of this, but let me run it to the end. it will be we tell you guys and a things a $5.00 tree. and they said that when we thought it, i hope that the domestic community was intervene, pressuring both sides to contain a future that we thought issue. because these not escalation, like i mentioned, the imminent and without some of that will be the end of the day, will be able to contain the current situation where the final system to the left
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full stage for that nobody wants. but i think we are very close to be there. well, he is really prime minister last week when he spoke in washington, he gave a very long speech. he did not mention the word ceasefire once in his speech. and i know that israel promised after the october 7th terror attacks to kill, you know, the other hamas leaders. but honey, it was also one of the main point me and one of the main people involved in the negotiations about a possible seized part and also about a possible hostage deal. so it doesn't look like it's really, really wants that cease fire to take place. is that your read on what? nothing yahoo wants as well. again, it's very hot, so it's easier to i'm like 0. i've been trying to tell the dues what it was. it consist of, especially if any else, but i would say this,
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i think that it's made letting me out from the civic cover. it was obvious that these right would be going to it's our him. but the main problem right now is that you mentioned is the fact that we have no other choice in that regards to tells of the change of ceasefire. and i'm not sure that the killing is made. let me uh would it give us closer uh to these problems that need to in, in terms of reaching that agreement. i mean ron of negotiations boma come us at the cutter. i think i'm like seeing what he was interested in looking at a deal. again is not a good money, is a terrorist, a very bad man, but if you want to release off hostages, things of kidding, i'm not. i'm not really getting us closer to where we want to be. i think now we have to wait until the point of you guys, hopefully a one bedroom or a deal. so the bottom of things, i think any of you in general, in terms of the 7th of the something is, wasn't sponsored too fast for the current situation. i'm not sure what appealing in
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we promote bill as i'm sort of the thing that it was a sole one. but you have to wait and see what's uh, how things would develop in the future. why don't i sunday, i'm very pessimistic for the chances for a deal and the co into weeks and even months. you're saying that you're not convinced that killing and the a is going to be productive for israel for getting a ceasefire. the united states, the secretary of state said today that the us had the knowledge of the plan to kill any a and also it was not involved in the plan. that's hard to believe. but if that is the truth, what does that tell us then about the relationship between is real and it's most important ally of the united states. what does it tell us also about washington's ability to influence is re, are the same to those countries. of course, house 12 corporation between them. but those are independent, i think, is where the have to do depend is to take that event decision in order to prove it
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secuity but goes without saying the euro would need us back up, especially if we are the 2 ways we need to. ready or that is why i think it's imperative to make sure that the american administration know what is what he wants to do. know what, how is the wants of things to be develop? and i think we wouldn't be highly dependent, but then also we thought he. ready was going towards or using the us to contain the pressure iran emphasis by us to do that. but his government not to escalate even further. the thing is that with god, i don't think needs to be the kitchen. how strong the cooperation is of course of action is i think it's quite strong, but i think it definitely got i think the administrator is highly glory. it's once he's what he's doing right now. when did you with the situation in. ready those good lord and i think the pressure all sides because it active, it is towards the future. okay. dennis and turn events as always we appreciate your time, appreciate your valuable analysis to night. thank you. thank you very much. well,
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immediately after the strike on wednesday morning, you're wrong bound to take revenge for the killing of is my of any of the he had come to tell you, ron, for the not your age and of your runs, the president my suit possess key on the president today said that iran will, quote, defend its territorial integrity, dignity, honor and pride, and will make the terrorist occupiers regret their cowardly act for the end of a statement. read out on rainy and television, the country supreme leader. i a told her all the whole money directly threatened is really claiming that it had leave the ground for a harsh punishment. and it was a runs duty to seek revenge for the killing of it's my own. i need, you know, yes, called about to leave. for more, i'm joined now by ali. i told you john, director of the center for middle east and global order. he joins me. you're not from right here in berlin. it's good to see you. again. iran,
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promising to punish is real but with in iran, leadership after the killing of when you get into wrong, do you think that there will be consequences for this failure in intelligence and national security inside the wrong one in terms of the consequences? i'm not sure of but then again it's very clear that there are being such deficits and huge deficits on terms of providing security in terms of air defenses. and so it's a quite a, to maybe ation for the ronnie upsides after all the year was the top routine gas going to, to iran to attend to the inauguration or the, or the newer one and present it must with as a skill. and then also meeting together with the, as of the other students, nomic jihad with the supreme leader of the last year on the,
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the harmony. but then, you know, it is so powerful, it's not real public. a ron was not able to protect one of these, she ad eyes and one of his top gas. so there is lots of pressure. now. i'm sure you know in the wrong to respond to that kidding. yeah, iran is bound to take revenge. do we know what that could possibly look like, as well as the new york times reports that were just published an hour or so ago is correct. um, uh this morning when there was an emergency meeting of the supreme national security console, which isn't a lead buddy task to deal with vide so national security and foreign policy issues . at this meeting, us supreme leader of the harmony according to the new york times and its sources has ordered the wrong to strike israel drake. so difficult. this of
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course, would present. uh, you know, a huge escalation uh, potentially uh, but then again be made. see um, what we saw, what we saw on april 13th uh with the unprecedented said directs a sort of buyer on an ease uh which uh you know, there's a lot of confusion about that. but after, you know, at the end of the day, these various, together with the support of the united states and its regional partners, were able to defend israel quite strongly. so maybe, uh, this kind of, uh, you know, scenario going to be repeated. uh, basically uh, being a show for us from the iranians side, but beyond that, of course the lawn can activate different components of the so called excess of a resistance of who these and gammon with also launched a long range midsize, quite recently, a to ease well uh, but also pro iranian,
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amid dishes in iraq and syria, a truck, the re targeting you uh, the us military presence there. and so of course not least, testable in the north of, uh, israel. but then again, uh to potentially not to the extent of, you know, the, i mean, at the end of the day the, the amount remains that, uh you, your own, it has to, uh, show a kind of a face saving response. but then again, it would be a huge risk to draw in the united states into uh, to me, at least for yeah, it also creates a veritable northern front between has but on and the east. well, at the end of the which you run, a news is crown jewel as well. let me just ask you about how much n his bullet their, their faith and trust in the radian regime. i mean, is it, it has to be shaken now or, or how do you see it?
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oh, that there was some, you know, shaking credibility all along since october 7th, because if you're running reluctance to strike, you know, these rout directly. um, so um this particular, the credibility problem amounted to the kind of iranian director sold that we saw on april 13th. uh so again, i guess it's a credit ability problem for the song republic both with it's inside a supporter base but also must know to be within the excess of uh, you know, the so called excess of resistance. um, uh, but the iranians uh, you know that this quite a bit of the problem has to be dealt with. uh, but then again we, we cannot forgot about there was a clear pattern of dependence. one sided lead. so that is disabled, has a mouse,
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or the one sort depended upon a test runs support and not vice versa. okay, i'll wait until the new john director of the center for middle east in global order . we appreciate your time and your analysis tonight. thank you. good, seeing you again to thank you for the background to honey is kili is the word and gods, and between him off it is real. the us has been pressuring is really to agree to a ceasefire, but these really government has resisted any of death, makes a ceasefire, seem less likely than ever. nevertheless, the body ministration thinks that it's still possible. i want you to listen to what the us national security council spokesman john kirby said about that today. we still believe there's a viable process. we still believe there's interest in counterparts and we still believe that there are meetings and discussions to be had. we wouldn't have a team over there right now if we didn't believe that it was possible to try to
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gather, gather together and push this forward, or the state of washington the, i'll get our correspondence bill to me lounge. he's following the story for us. so janelle, weakness and fear list start with weakness. the fact that israel was able to possibly carry up his assassination to the fact that the us was unable to, to sway as real, to do something differently. us influence on is real this anything but strong? is that what you are hearing right now in washington of the well, in a word, brenda. yes. and the fact that the us did not know about this attack of dots, according to the secretary of state and to the blinking. and that this attack was not co ordinated by washington. that kind of does seem a bit more indicative of the limited influence that the us appears to have. but it's also worth noting out that this idea that the u. s. has long been unable to
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exert influence on israel effectively. it's a worth pointing out that that has been a discussion here for a longer time that you asked for all it's a part of israel for it's a part of its military campaign for all the diplomatic cover that the u. s. has provided at the you when and the un security council, the fact that it's the by israel, in terms of the health to get send off a tax off from iran. the us has been kind of like a passenger in district in it's been unable to press iran into a achieving certain kind of goals such as are appearing, appearing more restrained or getting more humanitarian aid into gaza. so prime minister benjamin netanyahu was just here last week. he met with bite and he met with harris who spoke before congress. and the white house also made it clear then that what they wanted to see was not in yahoo is a full backing of this sort of ceasefire hostage release. steal it came and went
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without having given that backing. and that clearly shows you that he was not pressure to do that. but what everyone here is also aware of is that benjamin then yeah, who more than anything is motivated by domestic concerns, by domestic pressure is his personal ambition. perhaps his goal of staying in power, and that is a square the washington that has not been able to circle. yeah, and now let's talk about the fear. the big fear is that the united states will be drawn into a wider, more in the mid least. is there a sense in washington tonight that is indeed what could be happening now? i mean there is an argument to be made that saw a wide or regional conflict was happening. all right, do you have the who sees and the red sea have bought a rain and back to militias in iraq and syria, and these tensions between israel and has the loss. but of course,
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saw the fear that this could motivate the iran, and it's proxies to the exact so a very harsh response, of course, and a drag that us into a wider, into an even deeper conflict of course. so that is a concern here. now for now, the white house is maintaining this line that a wider escalation is not necessarily inevitable john kirby, who or who's our quote, we played there earlier in the show. he also said that today, but also worth noting that this is a region that is uh full uh, where in the us is uh, is, is very much of represented. the white house has been saved, that it still sees a diplomatic solution as the way forward for a more peaceful and secure region. but you can certainly tell that nerves are on edge here. yeah. yeah. i mean, amazing. the they're, they're taking the positive spin on this, what we'll see if that's where events indeed to take is janelle,
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