afternoon, but they're always interesting talking to ben. i'm ben, tell i blew in washington dc with the foundation for the defense of democracies. take care all rights here up to date. we'll be back again at the top of the next time. take care of the phenomena. susie is concerned, let us, uh so there's some hostetter if you do receive a nazi publishing, fighting st. history. remembering all the crimes is especially important in germany . rejection of the topic is really class and the nurse has to fall. so as mentioned, i will transcribe and we because the 2 years fighting to remember as a post closer this weekend on dw shannon balls or emphasizing the award winning

offer is available world wide. every language level reading gentleman has told me to go this of the story is that the german navy is just taking parts here. we're in pearl harbor and the big port in the pacific region of the united states and the german maybe 2nd part with 2 ships. so it's a homeopathic participation that germany has. and the reason the same time you were saying you will stand in for this. we did, how does that much? well that, that's a quite easily because in fact to him, so i love that lots about. it's a watch more than a whole more patrick, a contribution. because we tech pod as one of the most important you are the nation's and yes it, i use it. i talked to a girl at the barrel and he, i'm the live quite in quite an impressive way that our contribution is to be

counted by 5. do loaded with a guided by 5. that means our contribution is very, very crucial for that, for that exercise, for that, for that exercise impact. because it is, it shows to everybody, every play owns the theater that we are, that we stick together, all the countries, things a lot of free countries is supporting as the base international audit. and doing that here in the, in the pacific is a very strong set of those that go to everybody and definitely does that. so a lot to take part was to shape switch to a block and ships. and therefore, i'm garza be at 12 with unity to do this. as 29 nations were exercising here in the region about the threats of a future. current is a huge concern that i could be a lawful in the middle east of the we have mostly the was killed in a wrong. it's a handy. yeah. but also and eating member has pulled off your american counterparts north. austin says that the will can be preventive. what is your assessment at this

moment? well, of course, what awesome is right, it's can be prevented, but it has to be need to be. it needs to be preventative, because nobody calloway share or can, you can even imagine a further escalation was a region. we don't need that. we don't want that. we have to do uh, to try everything ad to make him flows available, available to all act. does it was a regional love to escalate and doesn't pay attention to this collection of and to do everything for getting peace back in that region as soon as possible. what does this mean for german weapons deliveries, weapons commitment towards israel, but also for german news participation. in of who unfilled the liberties florida. do you feel as of love to touch that to moment 3? we continue. we proceed with our engagement over there. of course we uh we assume the situation every, every day, every hour. uh, but we, so we just stay there. we wanted to make uh was all the level of decisions over

there. now as you get here, the reason you want to dispute leaders who open the address is china during this exercise. that's this exercise could be directed towards that threats from china. at the same time, you are saying here that you want to see more than a 2 percent goal in defense spending. how does that match with your struggle to maintain the what you want in terms of the budget commitments within your own government? well, to be honest, we reach in 25 as well as in 24, the 2 percent. let's add this as most of what for me and not all the decisions which are made or are going to be made till the end of the year. will have any impact on the engaged when is the end of the season that you would like to push for the 2 percent? well, we are, we are working on the 2 percent plus what do we have to reach and we have of cause to consider all the other needs and then job and budget like other allies due to

your also traveling to countries that are really feeding the pressure from china and know to be the philippines and also south korea and what will be your commitment that you give to these countries? we joined woods and how much of a role will defense corporation and probably changing german, those to facilitate defense deliveries, payroll. well, we have just as the, in the process of the, to a, to, to change our export control regulations is that's the 1st part and we, i think we'll be ready with that to the end of the year. and besides that, when it comes to the philippines, we don't all around our tony talking about what's it's about being present since this house cheddie c was our 2 ships and was all the allies have populace. and this is a strong signals that we see what's going on that we don't accept that as that we stand with the international, aerospace, international auda, especially when it comes to smaller countries, has reasons to feel what's going on. maybe, what can countries in the region expect more defense cool person?

what's our mean if he's yes, of course. this is, that's one of the reasons i go from here from the on the to south korea and then to the philippines. because we want to talk about law and mentor defense cooperation. it will talk about the more enjoy operability, the system, which we experience loves more than that exercise. yeah. and the to, and definitely is of cause one go up, is one the objective to get to more cooperation with those countries was pop into the region with those we have to be working with already for decades. and those we are just starting to work through that. you emphasize that demonstrating presence is important to germany's role. so will the frigate by investing back on which we're sending right now. not just trust the south china sea, but also the taiwan strait. the 1st figured that headed to the reason a few years ago didn't we'll, we'll make our decision in time only allowed to be able to do what is necessary. but it's lots of moment now to discuss it publicly. we have the side in the weeks

to come at also in the united states. the key parts of europe for germany is heading into elections. of course, you can't speak politically, but now that's kind of the harris will be running most likely on the democratic ticket. what kind of change of tone do you would expect with a potential administration, paris? there's been much talk about what trump too would mean. but how is, how would that be different? i think we have, as i already mentioned several times earlier, we have to focus on our selves while we're on a whole what we have to do. and that is true europe to the european populace. and they do has to do more for their own security as they used to do before. this is said shuttles, number 11 shows, number 2 is to focus on the available and stable cooperation. was our most important part of united states who eval, might be in the white house. anyway, we have to do what we have to do or we have to stick together was our allies. this

is what uh, what do we have to do in the future? ukraine just had a very large scale attack key if and those are you brown made roads that were use. what consequence will this have in times of most support for ukraine, but also in how you view you bought? well, we know about everything about the role of your writing, though we can see that every day more or less. so there's no doubt about it. so we have to, we have to deal with it and we have to face, observe the koreans capabilities you defend itself, especially when it comes to out of funds for germany, provided already free bait with systems and several are as the systems go, what do we expect loud would we have to do is pop as and support associate. great now is to live and to provide even while because self defense and especially at defense is crucial. now it's it, especially when it comes to the winter to come to protect the civilian infrastructure, to energy infrastructure and everything else. with that c,

germany also helping if 6 teams that are coming from fox, i called the given the assessment to do that now because we don't have if f, 16 as you know, and without the arrow weapon some old can be provided for you beings use was f 16 s to be checked. i don't know that it is on the final question. how close is the world to a very large scale concept at this moment in time? it's hard to say, i hope that the reason and threshold rationality is still a parking. but for the most part of the world and everybody, i think at least most of everybody, most of all talk to us and i'm the countries know the meeting, the relevance of the importance of a same training piece or getting piece better back. and that's what i'm quite optimistic as i used to be during my 64 elastic life that we will be able to a piece or is the source term of defense,

mr. here and how both. thank you very much. i of the every year countless people climbed the hill to visit this ruin the to find out why i met. and we'll go because he knows about the secret agents and if it's past and the artists from its present in fact you are. and on top of a hill that has been in the cold war, the outpost of the americans, and also of the british. and to listen to what is a g, d, r and, and russia. i was planned visit army. so this was a listening till after the 2nd world war, the windows divided germany into full occupation zones, the american,

british and french stones in the west and the soviet zone in the east. a conflict develop between the western allies and the soviet union. the city of balloons had right in the middle of the soviet zone and was divided into east and west. this made westland very interesting for secret services because it provided the western allies with a sort of island within the soviet union, sea of insurance. after the war fell, the listening station became so popular was it looks very different as it falls because you never know of indoors. this was totally dark as are they that seals. so this was all top secret, z americans are the had to take your own story. yeah. and the bridges were in an awful story, and they were a lot suppose to talk together. every single sequence today, auto task home cut the type of the back entrance,

pump the old listening station into a street on gallery. the

when i was younger, kind of the best one of the most proud of choice. it was stigmatized my generation, these cannabis as a part of our culture. no, we're not doing that. he is a marijuana co, strongly conflict, but sometimes for unexpected reasons. we the new young generations want to change our region lucky, older generations, equal rejected legalization. and then when generations class next on dw, the drawing on interventions each, the palestinian is ever known, we can't expect much living with them anymore.

this is not a good environment, not for me, and not for my children without civil rights and with no prospect. what can we do? carry on and some last day, a nice the nice you get their hosting for america. and babies shuttle stops oldest on d, w. i mean filter where d for a station in the rain forest continue, carbon dioxide emissions have prison again. the people of the world are we what impact because change doesn't happen the

make up your own mind. me the it's not my choice when it comes to kind of just because i am not a kind of his person i smelt because i want to know we're not doing that. my mom sees drugs specifically in one hand and then hand cups in the other. the .