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the, the, this is the, the news life from berlin, a historic prison swap between russia and west of nations. you know, that's one of the seem real, go over ireland in canada, into america. and then i knew i was home americans, phone women, and evans get coverage on us sign again up to hundreds of days in a russian prison. then i'm on the 24th president, swapped in the biggest deed of his car. and since that goal was also coming up, germany plays a critical role is the spot chancellor, all i saw say is a cause a difficult decision to release. a russian convicted of
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a teeming in berlin describe state sponsored to plus the us democratic party is causing black voters as the election campaign hits up. presidential hopeful complet hers wants to win back support. that brings to donald trump and try to try to the high village manager, welcome. the united states and russia have completed the largest prison i exchange since the fall of the soviet union. it was a massive swap involving 24 detainees, 7 countries and months of behind the scenes of negotiations, the us citizens released the dean by phone to texas. early in the morning for medical evaluations, done missed everyone, guest coverage and former marine buller valid or 2 of the highest pro 5 prisoners released alongside separate a russian opposition,
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figures and activists. the group was re to the airport in maryland by president joe biden, who talked to the importance of diplomacy, newly freed, and back on us soil. a joyful reunion to these american prisoners and their families, accompanied by president joe biden, and presidential candidate pamela harris. the several reporters from the wall street journal were waiting to greet their colleagues, evident gasket, which after 491 days of waiting gosh, good, which is the most high profile prisoner involved in the swan. he was jailed in 2023 and convicted of espionage charges. that he and the u. s. government vehemently denied. he was one of 24 released 16 by the west and 8 by russia. they
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include former us marine poll whelan and us russian radio journalist as the car michigan. the, the exchange was complex and involved some difficult choices. president biden acknowledged concessions made by countries like germany and slovenia. wines is big matter. a lot to russian site is also counting a when convicted hackers on several russian nationals detained in the west for spying. were welcomed home into the open arms of president vladimir putin. among them, a russian couple convicted of spying is trevino,
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along with their 2 children relations between russia and the west have been at an all time low since moscow's full scale invasion of ukraine. but this prisoner as well shows that at least some channels of communications remain open. the deputies vehicle bureau chief, you need a shuttle told me why brush i wanted convicted, matter by the caustic off to be reduced or as things lodging. caustic off is the kind of t play i this swaps and the options got in voltage. this will be close crossteck or forces. they're independent research by our colleagues has shown that the trust because as a secret agent may have committed the murder on behalf of the nation state. supporting who himself are both a secret service agent for decades and worked abroad in the department to dar for this put in who has all the service about you from you, but outside,
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which means in russian we want to let all, what people down for the sliding and putting it was important to prove that the volt, that she keeps his board am off the old. it's not just by the prostate go for board all the on the come up for the russian state abroad. and it's not just the all the secret service people who have no been really used to be sold them yesterday is the apple. but to me and many more who might continue to work a girl with a spies for the russian state. the russian president also took the unusual step of meeting crossteck off, and the other alleged agents on the air for you. and as they arrived back in russia, what message was he sending the yes, it gave him the help of the 1st and foremost, it's a signal that was the, the country and the bulk of the employees of secret service and support incentive, a signal in unmistakable boards at the apple perception of a solid, he said that the russia, the prussia, had never forgotten its russians. and this is despite the fact that we are dealing
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here with convicted criminals. but it should be clear to everyone as the secret service will not let you down. you can continue to rely on the secret services and on the old a be on that also to say, for the russian state, international propaganda media as a whole. now, being celebrated as great zeros and on or to wait for the highest state of war to bought. this is also a signal to the outside world, which is ready to release his political prison. that is about to look all over the left. keep in mind, the swap should have taken place in march back then we thought look sane of only however, with an apparently didn't want to release him. this is also the biggest to present to exchange joe with russia since the cold war. does it set some sort of a precedent? yeah, as well. i think it's clear that we are dealing now with this one of historic dimensions. dimensions here is a positive. it will also slope spot one for bond, a one for 2, and they will buy lots are all exchanges. now we have 8 congress involved. this
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means that, that disease, 6, west, some countries last 2 or 2 plus russia continue to maintain. they are intelligence contexts. regardless of of the ukraine. and yeah, i think these contacts are sometimes even successful. we are seeing now is he, i would also like to highlight the 0 of your key which acted as a type of media age. because avalon gives you what relation, relation to a to, to evaluate, put in. and that just means that if they're off, for example, to be any yeah, peace negotiations in the future with the ukraine to, to quote, once again, play an important media aging role. really leave it there for the moment. thanks so much for joining us today. the, the guy here that you, if you're going to shuttle the kremlin release 16 people, john,
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listed in some others called shop intentions between the west and vladimir, to pull things russia, west of nations, have released a prison as among them, a russian agent convicted of mazda in berlin, a very difficult decision for germany. the box up can someone, the prisoner exchanges, a delicate voice have of the circumstances. but this one had particular relevance for gemini young. and jim and chancellor laughed schultz played a pivotal role in executing the swamp. so that's because the key figure, returning back to russia was this man vadim classic gulf. he was sentenced to life in prison for the 2019 mode. and berlin of a georgian who had fought along side chechen militants, it was a politic. he complicated decision for germany, not least because of the brazen this of the murder. it took place in broad daylight input in puck, just minutes away from the parliament and sean slurry. you know,
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to try to talk about nothing, makes this decision to deport and the address sentence to life imprisonment. after running a few years in prison. an easy one. the state's interest in enforcing the prison sentence has to be weighed up against the freedom and danger to life and limb of innocent people imprisoned in russia and those on just to be imprisoned for political reasons. to us president joe biden acknowledge germany's vital role in the deal are particularly on great sense of gratitude to the chest. the missouri making a may required me to get some significant concessions. germany stay originally concluded they could not do because the person question a collaborative effort then the required co ordination, cooperation,
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and some sacrifice among allied partners about a successful outcome. so those brought time and very united at last with that families that being a lot of opposition here in germany to relieving about the mich cossick off. i asked the, the political correspondent, judas identity, what changed? i don't know whether a much changed, but i think there was a lot of pressure put on on germany to make this decision in a lot of diplomatic talks involved. and finally, the german chancellor, the german government, came to this decision and germany, how it wasn't a difficult position. it had to way up on the one hand, the safe interest in guaranteeing that a convicted murder. someone was convicted to life in prison would stay in prison and, you know, pay his hand up the price of, of the murder he committed. but on the other hand, it also had to look at the people who were unjustly, in jail,
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in russia and bella roost, including 5 german citizens. and in the end and the german government decided that the freedom and the safety of these people was, was more important and to the lead. that one is also important to note is that without germany's role and without germany in going along with this plan, this prisoner swap would not have happened. so at a certain point the pressure must have gotten so much and the chancellor and the government came to the decision that it was time to go ahead. so several of the exchange business, but german citizens, what do we know about them? as for the one name that has circulated recently in the press and that has been talked about is that of a legal key. the she's a german, a 29 year old who had been arrested in bella ruse, a country that is a close ally to who things russia and he had been sentenced to death in a battle. ruth, of for the difference of accusations including terrorism. even though the claims
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were never really proven, and he was quite suddenly pardoned for this a death sentence on tuesday. and they were hints that may be negotiations were going on in the background for as possible release or as it turned out for a prisoner exchange. there also 3 german russian citizens, one of them is a 19 year old student who has had been arrested when he was still a high school students. and he is also with the other 2, have been accused of high treason and also sentence to a prison terms. and the 5th person is a german citizen who was arrested on arrival in russia. because he was found in possession of 6 gummy bears containing cannabis and he was being a twos of drug smuggling. germany is also home to many who have stopped refuge from the russian government. how did these people i'm thinking about someone like,
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by the classic, off running for your game slow. it is clearly difficult to rejoice in the liberation of someone who was sentenced to life in prison for murder, especially when a judges in germany is said that the murder had been ordered directly from uh by russian president vladimir putin. but this is obviously not the entire russian community in berlin, but looking at part of the russian community, the one that i know many people's 1st reaction was actually of relief also of joy. it was one of the rare pieces of good news coming out of russia recently, especially seeing a high number of important political prisoners, political opponents, somebody, me a poor thing being released. this is something that has brought relief despite to the high price that has to be paid was the release of, of, of the cost of the corresponding judas of delhi. thanks so much and you're now
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drawn by how jack option life and the non profit counter extreme is in the project . tons, welcome. what this entire president swap have gone through if vadim cossick of want involved? no, i don't think that russia was interested in any of the other individuals that were released. the key was this murder for really 2 reasons to make sure that he gets rewarded for being willing to be an assassin, but also to make sure that there will be future assassins willing to do that. and no sooner were those rational positions. politicians on an airplane, into freedom, a russian politician event on social media and said these old traitors and they better change the names with because we are coming after them. so yeah, the cycle will continue and for that to be able to continue, you need to get your mattress out of prison. rush as a fraud steward s thing west to nose and then releasing them in exchange for its own citizens. i mean, this has been categorized as hostage diplomacy. is that
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a fair characterization? what i mean is host is negotiations. i think the word diplomacy because you know, giving it a veneer, hopefully to mislead that. it really doesn't have what happened to you. it was very different from the cold war, where, based on spies caught by the soviet union, were exchange for soviet spies caused by arrested by the rest and countries. here we do have spies and murderous on the one side and oppositional politicians and rest and citizens who being caught up and charged for lucas charges or sentence to loot because sentences for small infections. so there is no equivalence here in the exchange except a moral duty for us then governs to protect us citizens from governments that are now pretty much run like a criminal organization. is this going to be the no, no, in the coming years, difficult to predict what's going to happen in the future. but obviously russia is not going to stop sending people into uh, the rest uh, to germany,
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to draw the nato countries behind a hybrid more fair. and as i said already, those opposition politicians have been 2nd by official russian officials. so this will continue on the sides. truth is if russian spies and russian assassins i caught in the rest, we will have to expect again, rest and citizens to be arrested. and arbitrary leech option was a, we were talking about the by the mac, classic off and the released from germany. so is it fair to say germany played a key role here? absolutely. this was the most high profile case. and the most heinous case, this man is the matter, and a german court found to be a murderer and murder on behalf of the russian government. so this is of course, the most difficult case to release and murder are only after just about 5 years in prison. in exchange for, for some fitness we really did not have committed any serious crimes and rush at all. i'd like to talk about the role of tacky here as well because all of these
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exchanges happened under the all species of the tactics. intelligence service is 13 . now effectively the bridge between russia and the west. well, we have seen not for the 1st time that turkey play some kind of a mediator role. a lot of the prison exchanges of soldiers between the ukraine and, and the russian armies have been negotiated and actually in inactive in turkey. turkey has the advantage of being a natal member, but not in a human, but so it is actually perfectly positioned on defense between both wells. i'm to, to be able to be a managing facilitator in these kind of very tricky situations. when i leave at the for the moment, concept option live in the context stream is in project. thanks so much for coming into studio. thank you so much for having a quick look. now, at some of the stories making headlines around the was nice to international say is that these 13 people had been killed in process of an idea of the phenomena crisis
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rights group. also accused a photo days of getting peaceful protest as demonstrators are blaming the government for the cost of living prices that has seen food and fewer prices. skyrockets. japan has formerly of denmark for the extradition of anti waiting campaign. a pull and watson, the founder of the c sharp was active. his group was arrested last month on an international warrant when his trip docked in greenland. tokyo once watson on charges of breaking into a japanese vessel in the antarctic ocean in 2010. and we stay with japan, which is also ahead. it's all just july on record temperatures, but more than 2 degrees celsius, higher than average, that made it the hottest july since records began a 126 years ago. the new record comes as extreme heat waves, fueled by climate change, engulfed many parts of the globe to press the operations on the way in india. off the monsoon down pause caused flash floods in front of the country's commodity and
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states that icon. at least 13 people have so far been killed. officials say helicopters have rescued. hundreds of people standing near a renowned him to try and in the range of hundreds of his values of mazda tennessee. if to demand that a ton of hostages held in goes up. thursday's demonstration marks 300 days since the gaza was started with lots getting her most terrorist attacks on israel from us seized 251 people during the attack on october 7th, last year. a $111.00 us to being held and does are including $39.00. these rarely immediately says that many of the hostages remain with homos, whose political leader is mine, honey. it was reported be purportedly, i'm sorry, assassinated by israel, and this week on thursday. honey is body arrived and to help at the funeral service
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for him and his bodyguard who was also killed in the attack. multiple officials and images for me. does i attending this service? on the i have lived in caught the for many years, i'd be be better off of the service. it comes a day off to 1000, stand up for the memorial service behind me here in the 880 and capital that on attended by 8 ons supremely to i. the lock i'm in a i'm honestly, is expected to name a successor to lead its political wing soon. and speculation is rife as to who might get the job. whoever replaces a smile, honey, a, as a mazda is new, political leader has to decide on how the militant group will continue. it's fine with israel and also represent him us on the world stage, or the man accused of orchestrating the tober 7th terror attacks on israel. yes, yes. in war is considered more radical than nia boats,
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in war is believed to be hiding in the groups tunnel network beneath the gaza strip . and he's expected to remain the chief of homos in gaza. experts believe i'm more likely contender to replace hernia to be. this man colored michelle, a veteran her mazda official. he was previously the leader of homeless, his political office, directing the group from exile in 1996. he survived, and his really assassination attempt in jordan. michelle is considered more moderate and he has good ties with cots are in turkey. but his relations with syria, iran and his bloss soured over his support for the 2011 era of spring protests. another possible choice to replace hernia is caliah, ohio, a senior hamas leader who also lives in exile. he was the target of and his earliest as a nation attempt in 2007. l hi is viewed as
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a powerful figure within her moss who was close to honey a. after honey is death al hi, about to make israel pay a heavy price. well, how mazda has a record is moving quickly to replace assassinated leaders. the selection process this time will be more challenging. many members of the groups main consultative body. the short council are in gaza. so a full leadership meeting is unlikely to the us next way. for the past several generations, black americans have overwhelmingly support at the democratic party. but in the trying to trying to election, some polls showed a shift towards the republican candidate. donald trump, especially among black men, rich vice president, come to her as expected to win the democratic nomination. she sent a clear message to black voters. that's have 1st campaigned events. she wants to about this is the mood democrats are hoping for. your in canada harris 1st big valley people here in atlanta, georgia,
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celebrated the shift away from joan bite. to the white house. and um, i think our policies are really great and i think we represent the country. and you know, this time returns as a black america and our families got really hard for this opportunity. and i will not, not lay down on an amber acrobat. can she bring back the crucial black voters to the democrats or away from the bubble of the hard core supporters? the situation is more complex. so this sunshine smith is a 30 year old onto the canoe and run through own has selling business out of a share. so no, you know, a lot of people that, that lean towards trump, they think about the dollar aspect. they're gonna,
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so how the money in their pocket going to get in their pocket, right? so she needs to explain to them, how are you going to keep the money in here? because you said, you put money out all the time. you get money to this country that countries, but how are you going to keep the money here? and that's the biggest thing that's going to help get the time supporters on her side. so who she voted for? i still wouldn't know. i still don't know. i would say come on, i would definitely have to show me where the growth is as far as the american is going to be for short without, without honestly, i would have bought it for a job and by the end didn't step out. and what about the black male community? a group, the polling showed trump gaining strength every week. a large group of black men and boys come together in the atlanta to discuss issues. we're at this time. pamela
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harris is that the sensor and to the vice president entered the race. i think a lot of like men and the young man in particular were really not that interested. they just thought it would just be more of the same one or the very important issues for me personally as a, as a lawyer and as a professor that is the issue of reparations. i think that conversation has to happen. i think we also have to look at ways of strengthening our h, b. c. use our historically black colleges and universities with funding. we also are concerned about policing and american, um for me it's a, it's a black, the 1st african american female that could potentially present out this country. i have a phenomenal mother, grandmother raised in the house with mom and dad. and a lot of times the fema runs the home. so why not can a female run this country?
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