the pricey honda isn't how this grizzly hobbies seemed by some as adding spaces, conservation that's on the film. after a short break, i'm anthony. how'd in berlin? thanks for watching and start with a certificate. the name is the calls back. saved loud. thank you so much for joining in. welcome to don't hold bad. a lot of people do that. it's all about saying it loud as you guys would have been nosy bay, like get everyone to kings for healthy award, winning called call. don't hold back beyond the result, vs to many hunters are wrong. they

kill animals. i shot you down, bang, bang. you hit the ground, bang, bang for time to see it very differently. then the problem is that part of the solution? it's a momento, a souvenir. this is not true, it's conservation signing for itself off a saves of the animal world. wow . the hunting expedition into it and your it's not just 70000 visitors more than 500 exhibitors. that is how can i help you carlo hang on. flashed markets, his hunting trips. yeah. that's who the look on the boat is available there. teaser

offers like in the supermarket, dispute visitors are supposed to get an idea of what these trips costs. so i know the costs viewed it the hunting vacation that's called low angle question. private farm in south africa, costs between 5 and 70000. yours. the german guests with that issue until the end we have the permission to tag along we covered arrow costs to remain independent. finding the pray only required a few minutes of stalking. now

if i was hired, nice shot. so my pleasure. thank you. shouldn't be found beautiful for me. so even a perfect shot. good. i know a good memory sleep. last name must be up on this even as we watch the animal. ok. so the photo looks respect developments of either no blood or sweat as respectful display of the animal dogs failed to be this dispute for most guests, the photo and the trophy vital to a successful hunt law zebra should be 5. yeah. okay. so basically these all these other ones we mounted because i will email you with the details of less drive to the site. yeah,

trophy hunting is an industry in south africa. busy with your trophies on this side . we have repaired, it ended this lady. now it's done, we're making natural habitats withdraw sticking up, you know, ultimately gonna use some sand or something that i'm send and bring that in and natural grosse, artificial grass visions, i would say definitely comments and why we, south africans grew up with hunting animals trophy. let's meet the game and so on. so it's just what we know speaking, and of course, for someone coming here from say, germany or austria would have what it can be. horrific. ashanda whits, individual checks on the condo ingle replaced connex trophies and is familiar with the debate.

the. the point is the call, at least the killing of the game is legal is sorry, i post pictures and so it all the same. it showed the world that i'm not a shame twins and that it's all legal as you go up to the office. but the photos like these attract criticism. many find it respect, lists and crew papers only. there's also a few but, and people who get upset of the pictures are divorced from reality, from the vehicle. biologist daniella for i am works for per wildlife, an organization she co founded 25 years ago to better protect wild life. gillian, where again, trophy killing. let's isn't incompatible with the modern understanding of animals and species conservation inbox until they're especially critical of hunting

safaris. i'm see accompanying price lists. you have some of the headlines to that were relatively cheap. yeah, under 10000 euros females even for 5000 firms. thompson and i'm out of his head just i'm just gonna be in the draw so crazy. cheap to atlanta. yeah, some were fairly cheap. and here for 1900 euros. also on sale. a small crocodile for 4000 euros. a plane separate for 750 yours and also the price for i have a part of us that i send the i just find you tomorrow to put a price tag going on. i'm going to say that's how much this animals life is with. yeah, sophia, is living status to that the, those tentative it was a national trade and elephant tasks and lion pellets is illegal. they're not allowed to leave the country, but there is an exception for trophy hunting, which undermine species,

protects and regulation. i prefer to move in on time in yet. importing hunting trophies is sometimes legal, but pro wildlife wants a complete ban, a starch land ist in no hope that he would draw many is the use largest consumer of hunting trophies. and 2nd only to americans worldwide is germany bound import is called the trophy hunters would lose the incentive to kill these animals. because ultimately it's only about status and hanging your trophies on the wall when people seem to hold on the line. so not in the the maybe a is one of the most popular destinations for german hunting taurus and namibian.

steven jacobs has been offering hunting safaris since 2010 for elephants. the best bull elephant was shops the previous day by an american now workers will process the cale. so came around this ticket, you stopped the and started feeding on that motion then that line gave him the perfect brain shut. wonderful down, finished everything over. you know, if i would one day die, i would like to go in that man as well. it's a switch that you switch off when it's finished. there's no suffering. no, i know nothing. the elephant was very old. okay. oh and okay, going. so let's get going. the elephant's advanced age matters, says the hunter, as did the big task. an elephant tons can cost as much as $100000.00 yours. these

pictures on disturbing to many, but show the realities of the industry. a $100.00 the elephant would like to have a side panel of the screen. i think he wants to make a rifle bag or soft rifle. back out of the skin. wildlife conservation is underfunded and trophies can offset the shortfalls that stephen jacob's documents. at least you can order on this conservancy without gross animals on this conservancy. it gives a purpose to the animals. if it is no purpose to the animals, the animals is not going to survive at the end of the day. the isn't it good to be able to sacrifice one of those bowls in order to make all of the others live in this area? because that one who can do the protein that we give to the villages for that area . that one boat can do. cash payments for the area,

and it actually gives value to the elephant instead one. the one thing is clear. humans are responsible for the know numbers of elephants. the elephant population has declined dramatically in the 20th century. mainly because they were hunted for the ivory population stabilized at low levels in the 1990s. hunters ought to use it, elephants are especially abundance in areas where hunting revenues fund conservation meshes. and stephen jacob says that animals can be hunted asset k, i think is it go on thing is to me is make sure that the guy, the, the animal or the prize taken on the most cleanly and, and most you main way that these don't take shots too far away, don't food if you're not 100 percent. sure that you're actually going to kill that

animal. if it's fenced in a small little fence and it's 100, it's going to be really called a pro fee on that. you. the other thing because collecting because that's basically what it is that animal is good neutrons to get to what. so what is what is truly fee or ethical behind? but we would need to learn of other practices that are controversial, even among hunters. gemini is most important and help us to a trophy hunting lives in bavaria. chef on one village works for the international council for game and wildlife conservation, or see how i see there's been us on the phone. when i 1st started looking into the trophy hunting issue, i was pretty know you and probably with an added to that many have dismissive because everyone knows these pictures you home, everyone knows these videos, why and you can disability that. and they also had a certain effect on me all by me, you know, to listen to this. and the fact of steph, i'm going to the she has

a trained forester on tons himself, sometimes with his eagle. he campaigns against an import band on trophies. and is creating alliances around the world, canada, and that's not always the issue about one thing. that's what about sustainability in general. okay. quite interesting stuff. and a switch on you, michael. all right. by what it does on a full audit to new york is on if that's true, then for him, the debate has hypocritical system unless what's different from hunting in germany? so yes, good. the deer gets eaten in the end too is just like the antelope and then maybe in the media because the total fear is the tropi is i don't want to degrade it, but it's actually a waste product was, is just not fun. well, the, the

sounds simple, but what does that really mean? we now have a few days of hunting ahead of us. it's the 1st time in, i don't know how long 3 or 4 years that i finally have something like a holiday with all ready. boeing that 80 stefan ventilation wanted to shoot a video to base to the guide meet is about an hour to find the right one. the note if he gives you another shot cry and thinking again, if he gives you another shot, the

shot, it's got me something went wrong in the village. the beast was just in jet and fled. we will see if we can maybe catch up with him with a bit of down. um we will definitely have to get another shopping in um because if he takes over hunting again, this can take on 4 days, but we will throw busy see what we can do. a nightmare for hunters, the animals stuff us and its on clear if the truck goes can as

a find it the quick break 3 hours later. so let's, let's do this for specialist and also for of course you want your 1st shot to be a clean chill. so let people make mistakes with names. and in this case you feel i'm the one who made the mistake. and i'll go see though i still can't work out what actually happened and really supposed to get this a lot. maybe we'll get lucky and get close enough again from the on the and then 5 hours off to the faulty shots. the track of spend the animal again.

he loved this is dallas got yeah. man. was this for thank you guys project who is also well yeah. yeah, definitely. must have had to head down. yeah. but this is a perfect shot. could i be perfect? sure. well dawn you guys specially, i mean, we are a team, it's incredible. we are a team. the physical physical titles. keyless the head is just a part of the animal,

so you're not sure you could just leave it here in the but they're going to treat it. and i can take it home with me as a souvenir from the hunting, and the value varies a lot, depending on how each hunter sees an inverse. how this position with a sheet. this was that's wonderful for you. the, the teen takes the animals body to an indigenous, solemn vintage the oh hello, how are you? what are you? good, what uh, assume uh, hunters and gather is, but they're not allowed to hunt with bronx tools and the nature preserves in return. they get the meat from the trophy hunters as well as some financial support. they kind of find out where this is the small, but vital difference is that this way

a lot more money ends up in the community. then when one of the locals goes out hunting, a bonus on top comes on the for casa worker, these are on with great for the new was killed. and we now distribution the meeting to the side of it. i don't see anything wrong with it and judging by their faces, either today or the owners but there are also doubts as to whether this system really works. south african generalist adam cruz questions, the benefits of trophy hunting. one of his investigation spoke to world wide control to see what i published, the se, so the on story. i had no idea that this was a story that was going to go global because this is not a one of story. this has happened many, many times. before and many, many times off the woods,

and that story was picked up by the international praise. and they did wayne's totally global. there's renewed uproar tonight over that hunter who killed. so the lion in the home. well, it's talking about the us tend to is to killed in line and involved language. is it that difficult for you to get any reaction that you need to kill? i wasn't unhappy with that. really. my issue with the story was to highlight the problems with the trophy hunting industry. not the individual trophy. the hunting industry is problematic. sadam cruise, even if it divides by all the rules, the pro trophy hunting people and governments state that trophy hunting is necessary in order to provide financial benefits for the local communities for the because i'm going to prove that that is not the case. and it may be, as nature preserves, are among the poorest regions in the country. money from all kinds of tourism is

supposed to help low cost lives a better life cruise took a closer look. got to talk to this guy. hello. hello. do they give you money? a road next? nothing. no, no, no, no, jobs job. no. and you can service and do they fix the broken? well no, no, no they know about taylor, but that keeping the water for themselves. have the money for the that the conservancy gets where do you think that goes from that money? we do not even been if you did anything as we as still subheading. what do we get? nothing. even visa, we did not get a nice thing during our travels without them cruise. we only met a few people who benefit from the income like in this century,

the people the benefiting directly of our said plus minus. let me put that out for the $1892.00 going size of say each and every one will see and how the whole class . 6 does turkey hunting improve your lives? gives you money where it will be on us? no. i can look see where the money's go. cruise looked into the industry in 2021 on behalf of hunting opponents o. u. p. investigated $29.00 of $86.00 protected areas and found that hockey, any income from trophy hunting was reaching the know close to big question is weight as the money go? if it's not going to that community members of the 170 years holding the money cruise match with the cham and as a conservancy to confront him with the criticism. that is the way of saying things. i'm quite sure because of that i got to meet

a live lu. they was the benefit. did they? when you let them 2 up and fish out of cash benefits i brought in how i understand benefits will not be understood by the next visit. we didn't get the feeling that much money was getting to the low cost hunting advocates criticized crews for working full hunting opponents cruise assess, he's independent and only uses the officials that goes for his analyses. the thing that strikes me is the constant declining wild life. so this whole notion that conservancy is preserved, wildlife, and because they preserve wildlife they, they full benefit. the communities living the is uh, is incorrect with wild life populations are declining, trophy hunting must not take place in response to our inquiry. and it may

be in government rejected to cruise this criticism in most protected areas that claims the number of animals is increasing and where it's declining, it's due to drought. so human animal complex. same both way. we met with one of the most active proponents of hunting tourism handbook, entrepreneurship when the past runs and luxury hunting results here and is annoyed by the stereotypes of trophy hungry tourists. and so it has come as a new member, let's look at say white minutes, who come here like this out? 508100. $150000.00 for a safari, a tool which then goes into night conservation come in and helps the pool. workers have of villages within this redistribution is also somehow wrong and go do you want such a tough documents argument really

perhaps to rally, hence himself anymore. today he wants to shoot an antelope meet for guests and employees. he owns an area and some bob way, slightly smaller than him the 30 years ago, which was a capital farm. now, happy tax for many endangered species. he spent se finance, there's nature conservation through his wealth and hunting income or the whole draw. so i need to be on the lookout because this is a walk run

a met him on like in other parts of africa. the number of runny nose has been increasing in the south, a valley. the clear arguments for the past in phase of regulated trophy hunting space, in case of to vegas on the field when now on track. so having around 400 riley notes here in the next 5 years. and at some point in time, it'd be possible to make a rhino if i know some european or american to shoot. and if that means the one animal pays for all of the conservation in the cold. and i think it's great shots pull to talk unfinished yourself for comment on the

private drawing and protection. forcible so works to sort, searching here the forces, recruiting new ranges. there's lots of good men in these communities. there's thousands. we surrounded by thousands of people. so why, why go far, far off to funding, why not fund goodman from here and support your community? that's the key maybe stays me to marry, maintains there i know database we haven't because of as he has an f one to all them. so we create a for to all the, the sex at the foot of the, for the identification that we have made so that we can, we can see if you do have to create at the house. so what you want to do with this data is we went to analyze, right? you population is progressing the past and other hunting organizations

finance about a quote of the protection for special. okay. we've got a lot of independent dinah funding from, from diners outside on their, on twos, each property. that's way their own china is, are bringing in the funding through hunting inside of graphics and that kind of thing. um, through they, they, they business model. but it's still not enough. the number of elephants in the south a valley has also increased thanks to bryce clemons and his team to come back to poaching. in general, the number of elephants in southern africa has increased slightly. and because humans have pushed them on to small preserves populations aren't even sometimes overcrowded. they rage nearby villages and destroy crops, sometimes even happy toughs. the mighty bellow about trees are important. ecosystems. phones has gone up trees just imploded in front of the road. we

have to have a lot of the trees stuff from the climate crisis, but also because elephants eat the moist bob quinn voters, guess this is some progress design phones tragic to see a tree that centuries old being destroyed. simply because we have too many animals to feed it. that's the challenge. that's just not the we shoot 3 elephant design. go there for you tongue. let me complete nonsense of all the files is probably going to enjoy conservationist. daniella fry a is just as passionate as really perhaps, but her goal is to achieve an e. u wide ban on the import of hunting trophies in brussels. to give you some data tools here was parliamentarians and also with the e. u commission are important and guessing these plans implemented and that the e u as a whole ultimately found the impulse of trophies hello

daniella from la under green parliamentarian. before that, of course we're really pleased to see the majority has widened in the parliament and for the people it's clear. so if you show that the majority of european citizens are against trophy hunting till fee and yaks clean, and it's also about a certain prestige related to hunting. which in my opinion is totally outdated. the you would definitely be ready to take the next step to make some scripts and then the parliaments cool to bomb the impulse of trophies is a success for daniella freya and us sent back for stephan ventilation. like most countries in southern africa and maybe a, a poses an import fund failing, it could lead to fuel guests and less revenue which is live on delish has allies in

the ministry of environment and tourism. first of all so far, so good as well. yeah. romeo ma'am, where you and is the ministry spokes person? steph, on one dimension, updates him on the current developments in europe. are gonna send you 2 links this afternoon. you can use, you can read for the public segment of the european volume, and i've also sentence saying um the, the care for an effective span of a trophy hunting and why life traits or so and now all of it, okay, things as is what it was not possible to implement only for jeremy in terminate and all of a advocating for it and brussels on a european level. all right,

that evening, steph. and one of the nation ment, with mac cpr lewis to organizations supports and may be in consistencies which are partially financed by hunting habits situation. freelance, italy, and now it's back in germany. we don't understand why that's why jim in decision make us will make decisions on our behalf. we are really puzzled by that to be honest to it's a simple question of equality and respect. if there's a problem, let's fix it to give a let's fix it together. you cannot just bend things and you don't get us out of tentative if conservation cannot put bread on people's table, then we might also as well forget about conservation an unusual encounter in south africa. hunting critic,

adam cruz was about to meet hunting, organize, a carlo n. okay. so i'm interested in seeing how he is contributing to conservation uh with pro fee hunting. yeah, we'll call a single break. and so far it's the 1st time the to have spoken. it's been not an argument saying that you're taking off the trophy, you taking out the base jeans off. that's b c. so a lot of cases it will be the case happening. you've got a client in the place, top dollars and you do, you allow them to shoot the biggest and strongest animal that you have a fact. so i want to have a few to with, with a guy in the phone. and if you go to any farm and let's go back to the exit coats that he bought and sold, he's based boldly. pushed breeds really knows on his from the,

the, to african rhinos. bases have been all, most eradicated in the last century. may need you to that prize torres, for the population of around 1000000, only 222-5000 germane and poaching continues to threaten their existence where you just like angle greystone money from rhino hunting and they protect that animals. this landscape kid wasn't foaming then skype created heaven cut these mobile life, these other guy, molten living kid, this farm. it has also conservation venue to a certain extent. my greatest fear is that we gained up in this distorted p and will the way you have animals that have venue, like rhino as native friends and lines in these kind of conditions and

all the wilds, habitat disappears. true. conservation value is where you have an area that is pure bye diversity where rhino doesn't just exist in itself as a rhino, but it's part of a much broader ecosystem that functions absolutely purposefully. and your question believes that animals can only be safe, just they have a market value. it's all the countries span, the input of trophies. he has a plan b, because he's also, as far as the cindy developed, the world abolishes the market value of wild animal funds. and you can no longer make money from them, then they have to go on to be important. then we plant trees a monoculture. and then you'll only have eucalyptus trees. instead of 30 different wild species on one patch of land at a football. it's one of the most contentious questions. how much does the trophy

hunting contribute to habitat conservation? the sun is setting on trophy hunting. it's an industry in decline. it's an industry that one day is going to disappear. so by creating those bands, it's going to stop in forcing us to think of other alternatives that are more progressive and will probably have a great benefit on the impact of by diversity on this continent. what's happening here is the opposite. it's even controversial among hunters breeding lions to be hunted later. i show you some of the licensing. yeah. you would like read as well to create particularly attractive lions sort of money in your question? well so office can cancel that my little bit. i'd be probably the one that i have an opportunity to maybe show showed a potential would be nice. the

a good big black my. the result is customized animals painted exclusively to the desires both the hunters, the condos, the date was on google. the customer sees what's on offer is a full price for a full names being processed, a medium line or a weaker line for less. it all depends on the price of it was even locked in price here. ministry style videos are used to promote the content. at least $1000.00 tech, those are reserved for the deadly safaris. it's that conservation as pharmacy in south africa doing it and for life we predict that city lines alliance all day in the world because people kind of odd to come and knock. yeah. for way cheaper than going down to line into, well,

the south african breeding centers now account for almost a so just african lyons, the maturity of business fitness, the fear of the slope. of course, i understand that people are troubled by the concept to mom. but why doesn't anyone complain about the cattle that are slaughtered to move this lion? this animal is also bred and has been hunted while the cattle are slaughtered. the southern victory so often. but does this argument really make sense? first, ok. mays breeds more than just lions for hunting. he stores meat from the other animals and sells it, but not flying late. to meet the alliance, we just got them for the way. you cannot do anything with it, it goes. if you start facing the lion, me back to the lions to get the dice for alliance and then actually when they start

fighting each other and that. and then i stop by stop eating each other the hunting of captive bred lions is not the rule. that's a controversial exception. stale about 10000 such animals exist in south africa, panama, november 2020 to the states if the washington convention on international trade in endangered species meant to negotiate the future of endangered species. lo be groups whirl so that because the agenda are included, the international trade of hunting trophies item crew spoke at a related and t hunting event on his research and that may be he also met his adversaries. the hunters, the wow. yeah. the

couple of weeks ago i was in the media i spoke to a group of doesn't was so women and children conservancy they say provides nothing . and yet we keep hearing the story about these consistencies being successful that they write the millions of dollars from activities like trophy hunting. this is the great conservation lie ends in hunting advocates, many pub. thank you very much. my name is way past. i'm a member of the c i. c. i am a conservationist out of some bob fit a lot of our indigenous people on the venue. welcome to questions, but no speeches. i have to give you a little narrative. otherwise i called to ask the question festival. often more than a minute of speaking, without your question billy patch, this interrupted,

happens if we do that, okay, if you don't want to, that's fine. i feel crazy. that's not what i would call democracy. could be that as it may, okay. to ship is what i call, that's not the kind of guy. okay. no it's, it's actually very funny. why is it room full of let me be in? see it and somebody else. and speaking our case, what stops me from guidance in a movie a speak to your people. because from what i have from them, you're not listening to them. a gosh of interest. practically irreconcilable and more open dialogue might help to tackle the complex issues surrounding the topic. no, so everyone feels hood being headed at so many problems. and we

continue noticing those problems. we, i'm a bunch abused we've, what is the and that's what we have done. the nose is never had an interest to bring. i forgot to be any level the i just concerned about what they are concerned about. in the end, the trophy trade was nice and notably restricted nor relaxed at the conference. escape is d, i notice it's all about him. i was there is no one solution. the problem on what we're looking for is just the recognition of the sustainable use of wild animals as an alternative model to. and even though i am older, the debate is as an impass bryce clements from this in bond for a rhino conservation force is one of the few people working with both sides. he's been fighting for endangered species since his childhood. the shooting

something to hang on, the walls automatically was that a lot of people that would want to see it stopped immediately. they need to help us find sources of funding wise. i mean, we need good people to come together with an open mind and find solutions to, to all of this. otherwise, you know, it hangs in the balance by good to go. the trophy hunting is controversial, but not everything is as clear. caught as it seems, that's the drums. what is clear is that protecting habitats costs a lot of money. and that's money has to come from somewhere. the,

the well has dried family who's saying in iraq lives with climate change a little bit in terms of the drought so that they are not fully sober in 30 minutes on the w respect it's own about what can we and texting nature. that's right, sandra,

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