to truly sustainable sexual business. what do you think? come to tourism sec to the come genuinely sustainable. we'd love to hear your thoughts and the comments the can you see is what old cause has to do with the production? here's a heads up. so the really indeed the snow on youtube, beyond the result, vs to many hunters are wrong. they

kill animals. i shot you down, bang, bang. you hit the ground, bang, bang for time to see it very differently. then the problem is that part of the solution. it's a momento, a souvenir is conservation signing for itself off a saves of the animal world. wow . the hunting expedition into it and your it's not just 70000 visitors more than 500 exhibitors. that is how can i help you carlo hang on flashed markets.

his hunting trips. yeah. that's who the look on the boat is available there. teaser offers like in the supermarket, dispute visitors are supposed to get an idea of what these trips costs. so i know the costs. if you go to the hunting vacation, that's condo annual questions, private farm in south africa, costs between 5 and 70000. yours. the german guests with that issue, until the end, we have the permission to tag along we covered arrow costs to remain independent. finding that pray only required a few minutes of stalking. now

if i was higher and i shot god. oh my pleasure, thank shouldn't be found beautiful for me. so even a perfect shot. good. i know a good memory sleep last name as it does to you up on this, even as we wash the animal. so the photo looks respect developments of either no blood or sweat as respectful display of the animal. dogs failed to be this dispute for most guests, the photo and the trophy vital to a successful hunt law. zebra should be 5. yeah. okay. so basically these all these other ones we mounted because i will email you with the details of

less drive to the site. yeah, trophy hunting is an industry in south africa. busy with your trophies on this side . we've already paid it, ended this lady. now it's done, we're making natural habitats withdraw sticking up, you know, ultimately gonna use some sandals, some of them send and bring that in. and, and that's it all gross artificial grass visions, i would say definitely comments and why we, south africans grew up with hunting animals trophy of us to meet the game and so on . so it's just what we know speaking, and of course for someone coming here from say, germany or austria would have what it can be horrific a shot, and you can fix on the

condo and replaced connex trophies and is familiar with the debate. the, the pointed to the call at least the killing of the game is legal is, sorry, i post pictures and so it all the same. it showed the world that i'm not a shame twins and that it's all legal as you go up to the office. but the photos like these attract criticism many find it respect lists and crow people's own these all for a few. but and people who get upset of the pictures are divorced from reality, from the vehicle. biologist daniella for i am works for pro wildlife an organization. she co founded 25 years ago to better protect wild life. gillian, where again, trophy killing. let's isn't incompatible with the modern understanding of animals

and species conservation inbox. until. yeah, they're especially critical of hunting safaris. i'm see accompanying price lessons . me. you happen often. the headlines to that were relatively cheap. yeah. under 10000 euros females even for 5000 firms. thompson madison has had just, i'm just trying to enter all so crazy. cheap to atlanta. yeah, similar, fairly cheap. and here for 1900 euros. also on sale, a small crocodile for 4000 euros, a plane separate for 750 yours. and also the price for i have a part of most that i send the i just find you tomorrow to put a price tag going on. i'm going to say that's how much this animals line cause was . yeah, so here it is, is living status to that. the, those 10, it was a national trade and elephant tasks, and lion pellets is illegal. they're not allowed to leave the country,

but there is an exception for trophy hunting, which undermine species protection regulation. i think it's best to move in on time in yet. importing hunting trophies is sometimes legal, but pro wildlife wants a complete ban. the thoughts lunch is in no hope that you will determine the is the use largest consumer of hunting trophies. and 2nd only to americans worldwide is germany. fund import is bought. truthfully, hunters would lose the incentive to kill these animals because ultimately it's all about they tell them and hanging your trophies on the go on. people seem to hold on to not in the the maybe a is one of the most popular destinations for german hunting taurus and maybe and

steven jacobs has been offering hunting safaris since 2010 for elephants. the this bull elephant was shop the previous day by an american now workers will process the co just came around this ticket. you stopped the and started feeding on that motion and then that line gave him the perfect brain shut. wonderful down, finished everything over. you know, if i would one day die, i would like to go in that man as well. it's a switch that you switch off when it's finished. there's no suffering. no, i know nothing. the elephant was very old. okay. oh and okay, going. so let's get going. the elephants advanced age matters, says the hunter,

as did the big task. an elephant tons can cost as much as $100000.00 yours. these pictures on disturbing to many, but show the realities of the industry. a $100.00 the elephant would like to have a side panel of the screen. i think he wants to make a rifle bag or soft rifle. back out of the skin. wildlife conservation is underfunded and trophies can offset the shortfalls that stephen jacob's documents. at least you can order on this conservancy without gross animals on this conservancy. it gives a purpose to the animals. if it is no purpose to the animals, the animals is not going to survive at the end of the day. the isn't it good to be able to sacrifice one of those bowls in order to make all of the others live in this area? because that one who can do the protein that we give to the villages for that area

. that one boat can do. cash payments for the area, and it actually gives value to the elephant instead one. the one thing is clear. humans are responsible for the know numbers of elephants. the elephant population has declined dramatically in the 20th century. mainly because they were hunted for the ivory population stabilized at low levels in the 19 ninety's and says, all to use it. elephants are especially abundance in areas where hunting revenues fund conservation meshes. and stephen jacob says that animals can be hunted asset k . i think i think a long thing is to me is make sure that the guy, the, the animal or the prize taken on the most cleanly and, and most you main way that these don't take shots too far away. don't food if

you're not 100 percent. sure that you're actually going to kill that animal. if it's fenced in a small little fence and it's hundreds, it's going to be really called a pro fee on that. you. the other thing because collecting because that's basically what it is that animal is good, no chance to get to what. so what is, what is truly fee or if you go beyond that, but we would need to learn of other practices that are controversial, even among hunters. jim, and he's most important to help us to a trophy hunting lives in bavaria. chef on one village works for the international council for game and wildlife conservation or see i see it's been us on the phone when i 1st started looking into the trophy hunting issue, i was pretty know you and probably with an added to that many have dismissive because everyone knows these pictures and everyone knows these videos for the

disability, their kids and they also had a certain effect on me all by me, you know, to listen to this effect of stuff on one day. she has a trained forester on tons himself, sometimes with his ego. he campaigns against an import band on trophies and is creating alliances around the world, canada, and that's not always the issue about one thing. that's what about sustainability in general. okay. quite interesting stuff. and a switch on you, michael. all right. bye was just going to full audit to new york is on if that's true, then for him, the debate has hypocritical system unless what's different from hunting in germany? so yes, the deer gets eaten in the end too. is just like the antelope and then maybe in the media because the total fear is the trophy is i don't want to degrade it, but it's actually a waste product was, is just not well to the

sounds simple. but what does that really mean? we now have a few days of hunting ahead of us. it's the 1st time in i don't know how long 3 or 4 years that i finally have something like a holiday. ready? bowman? 80 steph on phone. delish. wanted to shoot a video to base to the guide meet is about an hour to find the right one. the note if he gives you another shot cry and thinking again,

if he gives you another shot, the shot it's got me something went wrong in the village. the beast was just in jet and fled we will see if we can maybe catch up with him with a bit of down. um, we will definitely have to get another shopping in. um, because if he takes over hunting again, this can take on 4 days, but we will throw bessie, see what we can do a nightmare for hunters. the animals stuff us and it's

unclear if the truck goes can as i find it. the, the quick break 3 hours later. right. so that's what i suppose. dish was things. well, i'm good. also fault of course. you want your 1st shot to be a clean kill them, but people make mistakes. and in this case, you feel i am the one who made the mistake and i'll go see though i still can't work out what actually happened with this policy. it does a lot. maybe we'll get lucky and get close enough again from the on the

and then 5 hours off to the faulty shop. the track of spend the animal again. he loved this is dallas got? yeah. man. was this for us project was and also yeah, yeah, definitely. must have had to head down. yeah. but this is a perfect shot, but i do perfect job. well done. you guys especially. i mean we are a team is incredible. we are a team. the

physical if the central tiles. keyless the head is just a part of the animal for your last sure. you could just leave it here in the but they're going to treat it. and i can take it home with me as a souvenir from the hunting, and the value varies a lot, depending on how each hunter sees an inverse on the sheet. this was that's wonderful for you. the, the teen takes the animals body to an indigenous, solemn vintage the oh hello, how are you? good, good. what uh. ready assume uh, hunters and gather is but then know turned out to hunt with bronx tools and the nature preserves in return, they get the meat from the trophy hunters as well as some financial support

inclined to find out what the small but vital difference is that this way a lot more money ends up in the community. then when one of the locals goes out hunting a bonus on time comes on. the forecast always that these are on them with great for the new was killed and we now distribute to the meeting to the side of it. i don't see anything wrong with it. and judging by their faces, so there's either today or the owners but there are also doubts as to whether this system really works. south african generalist adam cruz questions, the benefits of trophy hunting. one of his investigations spoke to world wide control to see when i published the se, so the on story. i had no idea that this was a story that was going to go global because this was not

a one of story. this has happened many, many times before and many, many times off the woods. and that story was picked up by the international priest and then it went totally global. there's renewed uproar tonight over that hunter who killed shuffled a lion in the home. well, it's talking about the us, the end is to killed in line and was involved with. where is it that difficult for you to get any reaction that you need to kill? i wasn't happy with that. really. my issue with the story was to highlight the problems with the trophy hadn't seen industry, not the individual trustees. the hunting industry is problematic side them crews, even if it divides by all the rules, the pro trophy hunting people and governments state that trophy hunting is necessary in order to provide financial benefits for the local communities. with the conservative. i'm going to prove that that is not the case

and it may be, as nature preserves, are among the poorest regions in the country. money from all kinds of tourism is supposed to help low cost lives a better life cruise took a closer look. got to talk to this guy. hello. hello. do they give you money? a road next? nothing. no, no, no, no, jobs job. no. and you can service and do they fix the broken well, no more. no, no, i know about that. but that keeping the water for themselves have the money for the that the conservancy gets where do you think that goes from that money? we do not even benefit anything as we as still subheading. what do we get? nothing. even visa, we did not gave a team these things during our travels without them cruise. we own, he met

a few people who benefited from the income like in this century, right because of the benefiting directly of our said plus minus. let me put that off for the 1890. 2 confirms that say each and every one will fail to hold the whole class. 6 sort of money that's turkey hunting, improve your lives, gives you money. great to be honest. no. i cannot say wait a minute. cruise looked into the industry in 2021 on behalf of hunting opponents. oh you. he investigated $29.00 of $86.00 protected areas and found that hockey, any income from trophy hunting was reaching the locals. the big question is, where does the money go? if it's not going to that community members of the 170 years holding the money cruise match with the cham, another conservancy to confront him with the criticism. that is the way of

saying things. i'm quite sure because of the academic a live blue, the ones the benefit. did they when you let them 2 up and fish out of cash benefits i brought in how i understand benefits will not be understood by the next visit. we didn't get the feeling that much money was getting to the low cost hunting advocates, criticized crews for working full hunting opponents cruise assess, he's independent and only uses the officials that goes for his analyses. the thing that strikes me is the constant declining wild life. so this whole notion that conservancy is preserved, wildlife, and because they preserve wild life, a full benefit, the communities living the is uh,

is incorrect with wild life populations are declining, trophy hunting must not take place in response to our inquiry. and it may be in government rejected to cruise this criticism in most protected areas that claims the number of animals is increasing and where it's declining, it's due to drought. so human animal complex. same both way. we met with one of the most active proponents of hunting tourism handbook, entrepreneurship really, pups runs and luxury hunting results here and is annoyed by the stereotypes of tre fee hungry tourists. so it has come as a new member, let's look at say white men who come here like this out. $581150000.00 for safari, a tooth which then goes into major conservation, come in and helps the pool. workers have all villages within this redistribution is also somehow wrong and go do you want such

a doc documents document the very perhaps, rarely homes himself anymore day. he wants to shoot an antelope meet for guests and employees. he owns an area and, and bob boy, slightly smaller than him the 30 years ago, which was a capital farm. now, happy tax from many endangered species. he spent se finances nature conservation through his wealth and hunting income of the old draw. so

i need to be on the lookout because this is a walk, run a modem on like you know, the parts of africa, the number of runny nose has been increasing in the south a volley, the clear arguments for valley paps, then save the regulated trophy hunting space in case of too big on the field when they're on track. so having around 400 runny nose here in the next 5 years. i'm kinda, at some point time, it'll be possible to make a rhino a final thoughts or some european or americans to shoot. and if that means the one animal pays for one of the conservation in the car, and i think it's great to shipped to tulsa, taught unfinished as a full comment on the

private drawing and protection. forcible, so looks to sort, searching here the forces, recruiting new ranges. these lots of good men in these communities is thousands. we surrounded by thousands of people. so why, why go far, far off to funding? why not fund goodman from here and support your community? that's the key. the notices moved to mary maintains the rhino database. we haven't because he has an effort to of them. so we create a for to all the, in the sex as the foothold of, for the identification that we have made. so that we can, we can see if you do have to create a new house. so what you want to do with this data is we went to analyze, right?

you population is progressing. the past and other hunting organizations finance about a quote of the protection for special. okay. we've got a lot of independent dinah funding from, from diners outside on that or on choose each property that's way their own china is, are bringing in the funding through hunting inside of graphics and that kind of thing . so through the they, they business model. but it's still not enough. the number of elephants in the south a valley has also increased thanks to bryce clements on his team to come back to poaching. in general, the number of elephants in southern africa has increased slightly. and because humans have pushed them on to small primitives, populations are even sometimes overcrowded. they rage nearby villages and destroy crops, sometimes even happy toughs. the mighty bellow about trees important

ecosystems forms has gone up trees just imploded in front of the road. we have to have a good mind, copeland, the trees suffer from the climate crisis, but also because elephant see the moist bach when voters guess that's just shown target is to assign phones tragic to see a tree of centuries old being destroyed simply because we have too many animals to feed it, that's the challenge. that's just don't know. can we shoot 3 elephants for the sun, go there for you and go let me complete nonsense of all the positive. i'm probably going to enjoy conservationist. daniella fry a is just as passionate as really perhaps, but her goal is to achieve an e. u wide band on the import of hunting trophies in brussels. to give you some data towards here was parliamentarians. and also with the you commission are important and guessing these plans implemented. and that the you as a whole ultimately found the impulse of trophies

hello daniella from la under green parliamentarian. if for those of course, we're really pleased to see the majority has widened in the new parliament and for the people. it's clear. so if you show that the majority of european citizens are against trophy hunting till senior abilene and that it's also about to set and prestige related to hunting. which in my opinion is totally outdated. the you would definitely be ready to take the next step to make some in the parliament school to bomb. the import of trophies is a success for daniella freya and us sent back push the fund formulation like most countries in southern africa. and it may be a poses an import fund failing, it could lead to fuel guests and less revenue,

which is why of, on delish has allies in the ministry of environment and tourism. first of all so far, so good as well. yes ma'am. well, you and is the ministry spokes pass and stuff on one dimension. updates him on the current developments in your up. i'm gonna send you 2 links this afternoon. you can use, you can read for the public segment of the european volume and it was a sentence saying a, b, b, b care for an effective span of a trophy hunting and why life traits or so and now that's okay. thing as is what it was not possible to implement only for

jeremy in germany and all of a advocating for it and brussels on a european level. all right, that evening, steph. and one of the nation ment, with mac cpr lewis to organizations supports and may be in consistencies which are partially financed by hunting habits situation for atlanta, italy. and now it's back in germany. we don't understand why that's why jim in decision make us will make decisions on our behalf. we are really puzzled by that. to be honest. so here it's a simple question of equality and respect. if there's a problem, let's fix it to give a, let's fix it together. you cannot just bend things and you don't give us out of tentative. if conservation cannot put it on people stable, then we might also as well forget about conservation

an unusual encounter in south africa. hunting critic, adam cruz was about to meet hunting, organize a carlo angle crashed. so i'm interested in seeing how he is contributing to conservation. uh with pro fee hunting yeah, we'll call a single break and so far it's the 1st time the to have spoken. it's been not an argument saying that you're taking off the trophy. you taken out the base jeans off. that's b c. so a lot of cases it will be the case happening. you've got a client and he pays top dollars and you give you allow him to shoot the biggest and strongest animal that you have a fact. so i want to have a few to with, with a guy before. and if you go to any farm and let's go back to the exit code. so he

will install these based bully angle breeds really knows on his from the, the, to african rhinos bases have been all, most eradicated in the last century. may need you to that prize torres from a population of around 1000000 only 20 to 20. 5000 germane and poaching continues to threaten their existence for you to his line tangled based on money from rhino hunting and they protect that animals. this landscape kid wasn't foaming then skype created heaven cut these mobile life. these other guy also living kid, this farm. it has also conservation venue to a certain extent. my greatest fear is that we gained up in this distorted p in world. way. you have animals that have venue,

like rhino as native friends and lines in these kind of conditions and all the wilds, habitat disappears. true conservation value is where you have an area that is pure biodiversity, where a rhino doesn't just exist in itself as a rhino, but it's part of a much broader ecosystem that functions absolutely pissed this for you and your published believes, but animals can only be safe just they have a market value, it's all the countries them, the input of trophies. he has a plan b because he's also, as far as the funding developed in the world abolishes the market value of wild animal funds and you can no longer make money from them. then they have to go funds to be important, then we plan treat amount of culture and then you'll only have eucalyptus trees. instead of 30 different wild species on one patch of land at

a football. it's one of the most contentious questions. how much does the trophy hunting contribute to habitats comes to the nation. the sun is setting on tri fi, hunting. it's an industry in decline. it's an industry that one day is going to disappear. so by creating those bands, it's going to stop and forcing us to think of other alternatives that are more progressive and will probably have a great benefit on the impact of by diversity on this continent. what's happening here is the opposite. it's even controversial among hunter's breeding lions to be hunted later. i show you some of the licensing. yeah. you would like read his work to create particularly attractive lions? a lot of money? no question. well so office continental that i'm

a little bit. i'd be good with probably the one that i have an opportunity to, but it definitely the social 80 potential would be nice. the good. the big black me, the result is customized animals painted exclusively to the desires both the hunters. the condos does on people, the customer sees what's on offer is a full price for a full name. what's the process? a medium line or a weaker line for less? it all depends on the price of it was even locked in price here, ministry style videos are used to promote the content. at least $1000.00 tech does are reserved for the deadly safaris that's conservation. as farmers in south africa doing that and for life, we predict that city lines alliance all day in the world because people kind of out

of common non to yeah, for way cheaper than going down to a line into well, the south african breeding centers. now account for almost a so just african lions not to the companies to send the stuff to the slower. of course i understand that people are troubled by the concept. but why doesn't anyone complain about the cattle that are slaughtered to move this lion? this animal is also bred and has been hunted while the cattle are slaughtered. doesn't fit this often. but does this argument really make sense? for us to get amaze breeds more than just lions for hunting. he stores meat from the other animals and selves it. but not flying late to meet the alliance, we just got them for the way. you cannot do anything well, but it goes if you start facing the lion,

meet back to the lions to get the dice for alliance. and then actually when they start fighting each other and that and then i stop by stop eating each other the hunting of captive bred lions is not the rule about controversial exception. stale about 10000 and such animals exist in south africa. panama november 2022. the states if the washington convention on international trade in endangered species meant to negotiate the future of endangered species. lo be groups whirl so that because the agenda are included, the international trade of hunting trophies of them crew spoke of related and te hunting events on his research. and that may be a he also met his adversaries, the hunters, the wow. yeah.

the couple of weeks ago i was in the media, i spoke to a group of 1000 with women and children conservancy. they say provides nothing. and yet we keep hearing the story about these consistencies being successful, that they were making millions of dollars from activities like trophy hunting. this is the great conservation lie ends in hunting advocates, many pub. thank you very much. my name is way past. i'm a member of the c i. c. i am a conservationist out of some bob fit all of our indigenous people, the venue, welcome to questions, but no speeches. i have to give you

a little narrative. otherwise i called to ask the question festival. often more than a minute of speaking, without your question billy packs, this interrupted, happens. if we do that, okay, if you don't want to, that's fine. i feel crazy. that's not what i would call democracy. could be that as it may, okay. to ship is what i call, that's not the kind of feel. okay. no it's, it's actually very funny. why is it room full of let me be in? see it and somebody else and speaking our case, what stops me from guidance in a movie a speak to your people. because from what i have from them, you are not listening to them. a josh of interest, practically irreconcilable and more open dialogue, might help to tackle the complex issues surrounding the topic. and also everyone

feels hood being headed at so many problems and we continue noticing those problems. we are not perfect, but you bused we've, what is the and that's what we have done. the last is never had an interest to bring. i forgot to any level the i just concerned about what they are concerned about. in the end, the trophy trade was nice and negatively restricted, no relaxed at the conference escape. i notice it's all about a month. there is no one solution. that's a problem. and what we're looking for is just the recognition of the sustainable use of wild animals as an alternative model to you. and even though i am older, the debate is often impass bryce clements from the same bond for a reino conservation force. is one of the few people working with both sides.

he's been fighting for endangered species since his childhood. the shooting something to hang on, the walls automatically was that a lot of people that would want to see it stopped immediately. they need to help us find sources of funding wise. and we need good people to come together with an open mind and find solutions to, to all of this. otherwise, you know, it hangs in the balance. very good to go. the trophy hunting is controversial, but not every thing is as clear caught as it seems. ops this drums what is clear is that to protecting habitats costs the loss of money. they can move and that's

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