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the, the, the phase dw news live from bullying. ukraine launch is another drug attack inside russia and troops for over the border into the cost region. surprising russian forces military analysts say keith is seizing territory from moscow, which could perhaps be exchanged ukrainian land in the future. israel agrees to attend seems by it talks next week, under pressure from the us contact at egypt almost as yet to respond. we talk to, when is brandy involved in previous high level negotiations as bangladesh as new lead a gets down to work with admissions here for sold over and over to 100 units says
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his 1st priority is the hill. the nation shaken 5 weeks of definitely contact the i've been visible and welcome ukraine has confirmed its launched an overnight drop . it attack on a military and field in russia. the base is located about 300 kilometers from the ukrainian border. russia is already fighting to push back an incursion closer to the frontier and it costs the russian defense industries as extra troops of being sent to the region. a state of emotions to use in force, hoping to fend off ukrainian troops rushed as defense, ministry says this footage shows ukrainian armored vehicles being destroyed as heavy fighting rages for
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an estimated 1000 ukrainian troops ran through the russian border early tuesday into the course region with tanks and other armored vehicles. heavy fighting was reported near the town of sewage were rushing natural gas flows into ukraine, raising concerns over a potential stop to trends that flows to europe. ukraine has released the video footage, allegedly showing russian guard surrendering at a border crossing in chorused. in his evening address president below the mirror, zelinski suggested russia should get a taste of its own medicine without referring directly to the incident. i see in this last rush or brought the war to our land and should feel what it has done. may we want to achieve our goals as soon as possible in peace time under the conditions of adjusting peace. and it will be, course has declared a state of emergency, and thousands of people are being evacuated. former russian president dmitri med
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via have reacted to the incursion on social media. this is no longer just an operation to reclaim or refresh will territories and punish the nazis. it is possible and necessary to enter the territory of the still existing ukraine to go into a desa har keith, to meet pro nikolai. if to go into keys and further, there should be no restrictions in the sense of any recognized border of the ukrainian rice. moscow has been forced to call in reserves to stop ukrainian soldiers from pushing deeper into its territory. that connelly is in k for us janina semen over in re go around moscow team. we located off the rush, something down you need a signing with you. how is most ago selling this obvious embarrassment in cost us now we did see a bit of panic there among the rushing leadership, pushing
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a just today held another meeting with his defense and security official. that was actually the 3rd meeting within just a week. so that really seems to be this attempt to show that the situation is under control. we hear from the course region that the regents acting governor has now a called on people to refrain from posting on social media. so like photo and video is, and of course, that's really where a lot of us are getting the information from, from this region, basically social media or we rely on what the russian state is reporting there. so there seems to be a bit of an effort to hide what is actually going on. and w actually managed to speak to locals in the course region a today. who of course, remain anonymous. we're a bit further away from the fighting. so not really in that so, but they said they don't really have an idea of the scale of what we are seeing of
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from course the heavy fighting, etc. um. so yeah, pretty different image there that is kind of sold to the russian public and describe the general public reaction to these developments as well. we of course heard from the regional authorities that there is i q ations going on. and we've pretty much seen people kind of contradicting that on a social media saying that the applications are not being a vacuum uh are not being organized, but they have to, uh, organize those educations themselves and interest. and we also really being angry about the rational authorities there and kind of questioning that they have the situation under control. but of course, this is very limited information here, mostly from social media. and it is hard to kind of because there's no, there are no independent journalist on the ground right now. nick,
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this is day 4 of the incursion. way to you see a going i think right now the cranes are trying to take as much ground as they can. this is basically opportunistic. they cross the border and realize that there was even less in the way of russian defences dads. and maybe they had expected when you look at the maps that various observers have put together, they are very different. some of the more conservative and kind of put the zone of ukrainian control basically just along the board of 1510 kilometers deep. other say that in certain points they've reached as far as 35 kilometers deep away from the border. this talk of the ukrainians may be trying to take hold of the course. can you can power station which is further to the north. this is some kind of thing that can be an exchange traded for control of ukraine's because we could buy the station as a producer, which is held by the russians right now. that still seems pretty far fetched. but even a few days ago, we had no concept of his being something that could be longer to him. we thought
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this would just be another border rates, something that we'd be over in $24.00, if not the latest 48 hours. but it seems equation report reports that the cranes are digging in and trying to hold on to the surgery. so this is definitely something on a scale we haven't seen so far. and something that, for basically, for the 1st time in probably more than a year has kind of successfully seen. you change the rules of the game and really taking the russian side by surprise. nick, let's talk more about strategies. a drawing russian forces away from east and you can, i mean, terms of boots on the ground these that for you little only these kinds of troop movements take a long time. certainly there had been votes on ukraine, social media, ones that we call and verify. obviously that lots of helicopters have been used community helicopters used by the russians more to try to give reason for the east that they were now being seen less often to potentially they were being moved. west dakota squeak on to be sure if that's true, but certainly that is the big hope here that this is going to take the pressure off at the front lines by rushes,
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being pushing forward pretty relentlessly in recent months. on top of the, of you being a huge environment for violent fruits and, and really maybe you're hitting more out if people in the rest of russia all really hearing about this. and, you know, being confronted with these additional social media rather than just hearing what the governance telling him that is the big hope here that this could really prove directions that can this war. and ukraine has a higher price for them that they call it ignore it. and gone somehow, live their lives in peace was going on. you need that. you mentioned that a sense of panic among russian officials. ukraine still hitting other parts of russia withdrawing the tax. what more can you tell us? so oh yeah, actually a ukraine has a tag russian territory already before we have been seeing the events incurs now, especially last year, especially in the back or region. but of course that was a different scale. and again, today, there were reportedly a drone attacks on the belle grove region. and i mean,
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we didn't because nick mentioned that we didn't really see much of a change. i mean, of course it's kind of hard to assess right now, teens and russian public opinion because of restrictive loss, but still we didn't see this kind of a change in public opinion because that is an area that already has been attacked by a drones last year. and again and out today and um yeah, we actually managed to um speak to a resident in a bag or a colleague of mine spoke to her and she said pretty people pretty much got used to the drawing attack. so it's kind of, yeah, been pretty change apparently their opinion towards the war and, but they are now worried people in belgrade. that's what they are telling us that there might be similar development in dr. at as in the course region. so they're worried about the troops advancing there. so i think that is just redid an interesting question to see how this a further advancing off ukrainian troops will change and russian public opinion
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with all these reports of ukrainian attacks on russian territory in various regions . is you credit spreading itself to fit as well that we don't know how many results is, how many soldiers ukraine has thrown at this endeavor there with those russian, portsmouth, thousands ukrainian so it's more or less crossing the border. that certainly seems pretty low given the size of the territory that we believe potentially has seen some kind of ukrainian involvement or ukraine boost on the ground. that does seem to be well. so lots of moments where the grains will advance. we'll try and see where the russian defense is. uh, maybe engage us in 5 fights and then pull back. so maybe some of the kind of further adults in the map from the voters that were all just temporary under represent the places where you can use old as a regularly. but certainly for now, it seems like this is a relatively limited investment of ukraine's or results is end up to, especially the political impact of this,
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of an embarrassing russian showing. these are so community that rush, it isn't as predominant and that ukraine can still use, take it on surprise and change the kind of course of the dynamic of this will. i think that certainly for now seems like it's a good investment, whether or not your credit is going to send more troops and, and trying to gain and hold more search that we don't know yet. but certainly in the cranes also keeping to this very tight lips don't. this is uncharacteristic. you know, last year when we have the counter offensive, we had lots of tote from the ukrainian leadership. i think they regret that now that they think that basically put the expectations on that confidence of to high. so this year you're seeing totally the opposite. basically nothing being said very kind of in direct pronouncements, if a tool and then letting the facts speak for themselves the latest they have from w correspondence and economy and just need a seminar is well has confirmed people say negotiate has the guns a piece talks next week in doha, or cairo, the officer prime minister benjamin netanyahu says a degree to the talks at the request of international media, as well as late as
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a pushing for adults to restart, almost as yet to respond the recent assassination of how much lead in tehran, why they blamed on israel has raised tensions, and some few of the operation is handed piece f. it's how much was behind the type of 7th attacks on israel and is regarded by multiple countries as a terrorist organization. or i also have to both of them corresponded rebecca braces about the likelihood of talks actually taking place. considering all the complications these folks are supposed to take place on thursday a week in this region is a lifetime and anything could happen. of course we're waiting for retaliatory responses from both hezbollah and iran. should that happen then? you know, it's very likely that the talks will either be put on hold or certainly certainly delayed but, but otherwise given, given the, the joint statement released yesterday. and then of course, the prime minister's office here is having a statement saying that israel will take part in the talks does means that they are likely to go ahead on thursday at a yet to be determined location is of course,
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is the latest iteration of a deal, it's based on the framework, sit out by us president joe biden at the end of may and you both sides him off and his round has been close to agreeing on this deal. but there are still sticking points. both sides blame each other for those taking points. so we just have to say what comes out of these latest round of negotiations next week. okay, so run this through those sticking points again or yeah, most of the same issues, kate coming um we have been talking about this now 4 months and the various times throughout all of these discussions, these various iterations of various deals. we have been talking about the same sticking points, namely the, the, the discussion of the talking point around the complete cessation of hostilities. that's something that hamas has been demanding. and it's something that is around is saying is absolutely off the table. it wants to have the ability to resume fighting after a period perhaps after the 1st phase of the hostage negotiations is complete. and
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some of the hostages have been released. particularly sticking point. a being reported in this is something around article 14, which of course i don't expect people to be familiar with, but the language is around the duration of negotiations that have mouse and israel as opposed to stopped during that 1st phase of negotiations. now, the original language as it stands now, is that the us casa, and each of those k negotiating partners will make every effort to ensure that these negotiations and in an agreement for a poem. and it's a sign. now, a mouthful, that language to be changed from make every effort to ensure to transfer up that agreement. but we've been hearing from the as right beside that, that's something they're unlikely to agree to. so of course, well, we talked about finding out the final details. these find the details are and the very important and still main that both sides are pretty far apart. goes and baskin is and is by the peace activist. he operated in negotiating channel with homeless
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for the release of the used by the soldier, the launch a beat him home, us health hostage for over 5 years. i asked him what message media is trying to send with this new round of talks. so well, 1st of all, i would caution is thinking about a peace agreement. we're not talking about peace, we're talking about a cease fire, an end to the war. the release of this where the hostages, the release of post indian prisoners, it's a far call from peace. so let's focus on that. that needs to be done. what has happened with the recent announcement drunk and out swing by the united states cost or in egypt? seems to be some kind of changing of the holes that they have been playing by for the last 10 months. it seems that the mediators have come to the conclusion that they shouldn't carry out these negotiations on the end. that they have said that they are calling for the parties to show up on the 15th of august. they are prepared to put bridging proposals on the table, which is really the 1st time we've heard this. and it seems to me that they are a strong arming both israel and from us into getting to the task and hopefully
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reaching agreements that will put an end to this war. and release me is really 115 is really hostages. we're still in casa, in hindsight, what do you think now of the large lead exchange of which houses? yeah, yeah. i assume while i was released, he said to have planned the all type of 7 attacks on his way. right. i don't think it's really relevant to the discussion, but it, we have to remember that the launch lead wasn't captivity for 5 years. and 4 months . the is really held in enemy top to be for longer than any other is ready. the deal that was on the table had actually been on the table 6 months after his abduction from an army base and started of israel 5 years until the parties reached an agreement on that deal. it was not a good deal, but it was the only deal to bring us really soldier home, which is part of the is really the posts or what has been the is really you thought that we don't leave anyone behind. you were willing to pay a higher price for our people to be turn civilians and military people. the problem
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is not the deal itself. the problem is that since he wasn't released in 2011, nothing was done to putting him into the israeli palestinian conflict. this is our tragedy. there is no military solution to this conflict. there never has been one. there is no military solution for dealing with a mass. there never has been one. what we need is a political solution which requires negotiations. it requires us to make palestine real for the past and young people for us to turn the 2 state solution into reality . it will require germany, for example, to recognize the state of palestine and to call on other nations to recognize both israel and palestine. the reason i ask you about that deal, which you said wasn't good. is there anything that makes you think this current sale is going to be any better? i know it might be better, but a 115 is really use our top to be to use our captive in gaza for 12 months before 10 months. a majority of them are believe to no longer be alive. this goes
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completely against the is really info. so they were abandoned by the country. they were not defending, and they were taken from their homes and military bases from their beds in pajamas, unhealthy and captive needs by the state of israel, which failed to protect its border and failed to protect its citizens. and the government of israel has a moral responsibility to bring them home. no one should be left in gossip. this house that there was a price for ending that for bringing them home. it also has to end because the 10s of thousands of people have been killed in gaza. most of them non good buttons to 1000000 people. there are homeless, their homes have been destroyed too much damage has been done. this has to end with talking about some 14000 deaths according to the how much lead helpful authorities in gaza. but we've also seen so many hostage data says you point out how much negotiating power then does thomas actually have right now how much can
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negotiate forever until the year until the husband to get and then even israel when negotiate for the return of their bombs. so you don't want that to happen, how much is not going to surrender? israel would like to find some us leadership and kill them. but there's no guarantee that once they do that, if they do that, the hostages really like if we want to get these people who were talking about still some children, we mean elderly people, sick and wounded people, they have to be brought home. there is no way to bring them home without negotiated agreement. israel's been trying to find them in rescue them for 10 months. and then those 10 most we've only rescued a handful of them. let's hope we can see a ceasefire soon and maybe even pace at some stage as you underlined earlier. it is rarely peace activist and negotiate aggressive baskin. thank you very much for your time. i. it is. and as the families of these via the hostages wait for their loved ones to be afraid, the people of gaza are also desperate for the fighting to stop them as one health
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industry saying almost $40000.00 people have been killed. as i mentioned, 10 months into is rounds will with him, off thousands of thousands are again, forced to flee, meaning have moved multiple times to escape sufficing. now they are leaving hun eunice as israel steps up its attacks once again. but there's no safe area. i'm telling you we cannot find a place to stay. we have thrown industries. i'm calling on them and calling on them to see us because we are tired. i go on, we it's hired. like god, we a tight. it's not just is reynolds attacks, but shasta, any sense of security? a lack of food, clean water and basic supplies means it's
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a daily struggle to survive. we are tired of this life by god. death is better than this. let the country see our situation and find a solution. we're tired. we've only $100.00 times which is really a tax. have hit 2 schools in kansas city in recent days because of civil defense agency said more than 18 people were killed. is riley moultrie said it struck some us come on seemed as i think this is new in from lead them a how to do unice has got down to work saying is 1st priority is to restore the we're in order enjoying students, leaders and government members, letting rates at the national modest memorial day of the being sworn in. he had to can take a government that includes the student, protests leaders and the military from a prime minister shaken, seen a flight to india after weeks of deadly demonstrations. as journalist david doug
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and how lower and order was expected to be restored under the current system. well, that is the biggest challenge as mohammed unit just states, it's in the base right now for the new interim government. and the problem is, is that the police, which is the entity responsible for loan or that and bundled us in any country. many they were responsible for significance killings just before which led to in fact, the photo of the former government. and so many of those people out in hiding and a scared to come out. and the police forces, generally concerned about victory abuse. and so they, they basically be almost like for the number of days since the, for the sake of cns. and they all, i believe started to come back and it's going to be absolutely imperative for the new government this way, the police that they can actually come out and start doing the juices. now community, many of them i know it has to be what i mean the and that could well be
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a problem, but hopefully he would have to just understand it and you've just been section, and they gonna have to work properly in order to enforce the law. and order, but at the same time, some of them may have to face time. i mean, is that going to be justice for the families of the hundreds of victims of those protests, the accountability for what took place over the last 2 weeks is clearly essential to the demands of students and many others. and as well as accountability above the human rights violations. this took place for me to just responsible for. right, so that, that's gonna be a tough challenge as well. because the bundle dish is criminal justice system is really not fit for purpose. and it cannot be certain that individuals will be subject to popular unfair investigation investigation and gets a fair trial. so that is going to be a big challenge for the young and maybe they should think about
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a piece of the conciliation commission or something like that. so different kinds of homes of accountability, not just ones where they do the criminal justice because otherwise it could be very overwhelming. what do you think about elections which are required in 3 months, but we see those, or was it different groupings within budget? there's right now overall quoting for different levels of time before the next election. that's the bottom. there's naturalist biology, the major opposition party until now, and they want the next is as soon as possible that a major party i gave you the soon as they have, if they have a nexus quick a, they are going to be the main beneficiary of the process because it's very likely that they would come to bar without much challenge, many one else. the students, however, my understanding is that they likely to be an attempt to setup a new policy. so they will one more time to be able to set up the new budget so they can actually give you
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a full vitality as to the bucket as best as boxes. so there's going to be a conflict between the 2 escalations and that's something the interim government is gonna have to do. but i do is very unlikely alexis would think by some 3 months for talking at least a yeah, i may be a bit longer. i can all of the students i've spoken to have no trust in the military. but as i mentioned before, the military is involved in this new interim government. what are the risks of the military playing a long time role in any government like impacts that it was the obviously the army was involved in showing that they can see them resigned. and austin, the allow me to actually played a relatively light hand in setting up the a catch a government. they've obviously be consulting and being involved in the decisions. but compared to other times and budget assist me with a minute. she had been involved with government, excuse me, in 2007 to 2009. in this particular instance, they seem to be taking
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a light hand and allowing the, a civilian taking into a government to be very much in charge. clearly it's important up for that, so with you and get a new interim government that relationships with the army. that's really important . but i think that it's, i do think the army has any particular relish to take jobs and certainly they would much rather i think that's really in government. and you mentioned government does it does the job of governing the country. and i think it hopefully unless something started as a table takes place on this bill. it was in the waiting during government purchased as tough as the army will remain in his box. journalist david bergman in london. thank you very much. but then a reminder of our top story this out, it's bratia has declared a state of emergency, a new kind of getting drunk to tack on military a field and then the pets region. the base is located nearly 300 killer because
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from the border, russia result very fine to push back and incursion by 2 primes your troops, they cost people check dwone pain, fizzle, and bank gulf will have you and use excel. have a nice weekend. the
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