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kill animals. i shot you down, bang, bang. you hit the ground bang, bang for time to see it very differently. but then the problem is that part of the solution? it's a limit. so a souvenir is conservation signing for itself of a save us of the animal world. wow. the hunting expedition into it and you weren't non just 70000 visitors more than 500 exhibitors . that is you can i help you carlo. hang on, flashed markets his hunting trips here not to the look on the boat. this will be

available there. teaser offers, like in the supermarket, dispute visitors are supposed to get an idea of what these trips costs. so i know the costs view that the hunting vacation, that's condo and no question. private farm in south africa, costs are between 5 and 70000. yours. the german guests with that issue until the end, we have the permission to tag along we covered arrow costs to remain independent. finding that pray only required a few minutes of stalking. no

5 months, hire no shot double liquids. bank shouldn't be found beautiful for me. so even a perfect shot, good, i know a good memory as the last name must see up on this him as we wash the animal. so the photo looks respect developments of either no blood or sweat as a respectful display of the animal dog is filled with the dispute. for most guests, the photo and the trophy vital to a successful hunt law zebra, she'll be 5. yeah. okay. so basically these all these other ones we mounted because i will email you with the details of less drive to the site . yeah,

trophy hunting is an industry in south africa. busy with your trophies on this side . we have repaired it and it doesn't really know it's done. we're making natural habitats withdraws sticking out, you know, ultimately gonna use some sand or something to them send, bring that in and natural growth, artificial grass visions, i would say definitely comments and why we, south africans grew up with hunting animals trophies to meet the game. and so on, so it's just what we know speaking, and of course for someone coming here from say, germany or austria, it can be horrific. a shot and you can check. so the condo angle replaced connex trophies and is familiar with the debate.

the devoid is the call at least the killing of the game is legal is sorry, i post pictures and show it all the same. it showed the world that i'm not a shame twins and that it's all legal unless you legal up close. but photos like these attract criticism to many find it respect lists and crow people's own these out for a few. but the people who get upset of the pictures, credit card, divorced from reality, from the vehicle. biologist daniella from iowa. x, the pro wildlife, an organization she co founded 25 years ago to better protect wild life. gillian, where again trophy killing. let's incompatible with the modern understanding of animals and species conservation inbox. yeah,

they're especially critical of hunting safaris. i'm see accompanying price listens . me. you have some of the headlines too that were relatively cheap. yeah. under 10000 euros females even for 5000 firms to awesome. can i? madison has had just i'm visual because it's are also crazy. cheap to atlanta. yeah . similar, fairly cheap, here for 1900 euros. also on sale, a small crocodile for 4000. yours, a plane, you separate for 750 yours and off the price for i have a part of most that as is from the i just find you tomorrow to put a price tag on. i'm going to say that's how much this animals life is worth. yeah, so here it is. it's living, stay this table that div those 10. it was a national trade and elephant tasks. i'm lying pellets is illegal, then not allowed to leave the country, but there is an exception for trophy hunting, which undermine species protection regulation. i think it's best to move in on time

and yet, importing hunting trophies is sometimes legal. but pro wildlife once a complete ban, the thoughts lunch is in the hope that you would them and e is the use largest consumer of hunting trophies. and 2nd only to americans worldwide is germany. fund import is called the trophy hunters would lose the incentive to kill these animals because ultimately it's all about status and hanging your trophies on the roll onto till seen. so hold on, so not in the it may be a is one of the most popular destinations for german hunting taurus and namibian.

steven jacobs has been offering hunting safaris in 2010 for elephants. the best bull elephant was shops the previous day by an american now work us, we'll process the account, came around to see could you stop the and started feeding on that motion in that line gave him the perfect blank shot one foot down finished. everything is over. you know, if i would one day die, i would like to go in that man as well. it's a switch that you switch off when it's finished. there's no suffering. no, i know nothing. the elephant was very old. okay. oh okay, gosh, let's get going. the elephants advanced age matters, says the hunter, as to the big task, an elephant tons can cost as much as $100000.00 yours. these pictures are

disturbing to many, but show the realities of the industry. a $100.00 the elephant would like to have a side panel of the scheme. i think he wants to make a rifle bag yourself, but i full bag out of the skin. wildlife conservation is underfunded and trophies can offset the shortfalls that stephen jacob's documents. at least you can order on this conservancy without pro fee animals on this conservancy. it gives a purpose to the animals. if there is no purpose to the animals, the animals is not going to survive at the end of the day. the isn't it good to be able to sacrifice one of those bowls in order to make all of the others live in this area? because that one who can do the protein that we give to the villages for that area . that one boat can do. cash payments for the area,

and it actually gives value to the elephant that one of the one thing is clear. humans are responsible for the low numbers of elephants. the elephant population has declined dramatically in the 20th century. mainly because they were hunted for the ivory population stabilized at low levels in the 1990s, hunters all to use it, elephants are especially abundant and areas where hunting revenues, fund conservation meshes. and steve and jacob says that animals can be hunted asset k, i think is it go on thing is to me is like sure that the good the, the animal or the prize taken on the most cleanly and, and most you main way that these don't take shots too far away. don't food if you're not 100 percent. sure that you're actually going to kill that animal. if

it's fenced in a small little fence and it's hundreds, it's going to be really called a pro fee on that. you. the other thing because collecting because that's basically what it is that animal, that's good, no chance to get to what. so what is, what is truly fi or if you go beyond that, but we would need to learn of other practices that are controversial, even among hunters. gemini is most important. lobbyist for trophy hunting look, sympathy area chef on one village works for the international council for gaming, wildlife conservation, or c. all i see it's been us on the phone. when i 1st started looking into the trophy hunting issue, i was pretty know you and probably with an added to that many have a little dismissive because everyone knows these pictures home. everyone knows these videos for disability, their kids, and they also had a certain effect on me all. but i'm, you know, to listen to this stuff on one to the she has a trained forester on tons himself,

sometimes with his ego. he campaigns against an important ban on trophies and is creating alliances around the world, canada, and that's not always the issue about one thing. it's really about sustainability in general. okay. quite interesting stuff. and a switch on you and michael. all right. i was just going to full audit in new york is on if that's true and for him, the debate is hypocritical in the system unless what's different from hunting in germany? so yes, good. the deer gets eaten in the end too is just like the antelope and then maybe in the media, i guess the, the total fear is the trophy is i don't want to degrade it, but it's actually a waste product was, is just not fun. well, the, the

sounds simple, but what does that really mean? we now have a few days of hunting ahead of us. it's the 1st time in, i don't know how long 3 or 4 years that i finally have something like a holiday with all ready. bowman, 80 stefan ventilation. wanted to shoot a video to be the guide meet is about an hour to find the right one. the note is it gives you another shot cry and thinking again. if he gives you another shot, the

shot, it's got me something went wrong. the village debased was just in jet and fled the so we will see if we can maybe catch up with him with a bit of down. um, we will definitely have to get another shopping in um because if he takes over hunting again, this can take on 4 days, but we will throw busy see what we can do. a nightmare for hunters. the animals stuff us and it's unclear if the truck goes can as

a find it a quick break, 3 hours later to it. so that's what i suppose. this was the object also for, of course, you want your 1st shot to be a clean kill. so, but people make mistakes, moments, and in this case you feel i'm the one who made the mistake. and i'll go see though i still can't work at what actually happened with this policy. it does a lot. maybe we'll get lucky and get close enough. again, i'm one of them on the and then 5 hours off to the faulty shots. the truck has found the animal again.

he loved he's done that. yeah, man was a sport. oh, thank you. who is also? yeah. yeah, definitely. must have had to head down. yeah, but this is a perfect shot, but i do perfect job. well done. you guys especially. i mean we are a team is incredible. we are a team. the physical physical titles. keyless the head is just a part of the animal for yourself. sure. you could just leave it here in the but

they're going to treat it. and i can take it home with me as a souvenir from the hunting and the value varies a lot, depending on how each hunter season inverse. how do you spell it with us? you suppose that's wonderful for you the, the teen takes the animals body to an indigenous, solemn vintage. the oh, how are you? what do you get? what, uh, assume uh, hunters and gather is. but they're not allowed to hunt with bronx tools and the nature preserves in return, they get the meat from the trophy hunters as well as some financial support. they kind of find the, the small, but vital difference is that this way,

a lot more money ends up in the community. then when one of the locals goes out hunting a bonus on top comes on the one for casa worker. these are on, with grateful that the canoe was killed and we now distribute to the meeting to the side of it. i don't see anything wrong with it and judging by their faces with either today or the owners. but there are also doubts as to whether this system really works. south african generalist adam cruz questions, the benefits of trophy hunting. one of his investigations spoke to world wide control to see when i published the se, so the on story. i had no idea that this was a story that was going to go global because this is not a one of story. this has happened many, many times before and many, many times off the woods. and that story was picked up by the international priest

. and they did wayne's totally global. there's renewed uproar tonight over that hunter who killed several. the lions in the home. well, it's talking about the us dentist who killed alignments involved way. where is it that difficult for you to get any reaction that you need to kill? i wasn't unhappy with that. really. my issue with the story was to highlight the problems with the trophy hunting industry. not the individual trophy, the hunting industry is problematic. adam cruise, even if it divides by all the rules, the pro trophy hunting people and governments state that trophy hunting is necessary in order to provide financial benefits for the local communities with the conservative. i'm going to prove that that is not the case. and it may be, as nature process are among the forest regions in the country,

money from all kinds of tourism is supposed to help low cost lives. a better life cruise took a closer look to this guy. hello . hello. do they give you money a route? next, nothing, no, no, no, no, jobs job. no. and you can service and do they fix the broken? well, no, no, no, i know about that. but that keeping the water for themselves, have the money for the that the conservancy gets where do you think that goes from that money? we do not even been if you did anything. so we assume somebody what do we get? nothing. even visa, we did not gave a team these things during our travels without them cruise. we only met a few people who benefited from the income like in this century,

right because of the benefiting directly of our said plus minus. let me put that out for the $1892.00 queen size of say each and every one will see and how the whole court. 6 does turkey hunting improve your lives? gives you money where it will be on us? no. i can look see where the money's go. cruise looked into the industry in 2021 on the office, hunting opponents o u. t investigated $29.00 of $86.00 protected areas and found that hockey any income from trophy hunting was reaching the local. so big question is, weight as the money go? if it's not going to that community members of the 170 years holding the money cruise match with the cham and as a conservancy to confront him with the criticism. that is the way of saying things. i'm quite sure because of that i got to meet

a live lu. they was the benefit. did they? when you let them few up and fish out of cash benefits i brought in how i understand benefits will not be understood by the next visit. we didn't get the feeling that much money was getting to the low cost hunting advocates criticized cruise for working full hunting opponents cruise betsy's independent and only uses officials that goes for his analyses. the thing that strikes me is the constant declining wild life. so this whole notion that conservancy is preserved, wildlife, and because they preserve wildlife, they, they full benefit. the communities living the is, is incorrect with wildlife populations are declining, trophy hunting must not take that in response to our inquiry. and it may

be in government rejected to cruise this criticism in most protected areas that claims the number of animals is increasing and where it's declining, it's due to drought. so human animal conflicts, symbolic way. we met with one of the most active proponents of hunting tourism entrepreneur when the pups runs in luxury hunting results here and is annoyed by the stereotypes of trophy hungry tourists. so it has come as a name them i let's look at say white men who come here like the shout. $581150000.00 for a safari, a tooth which then goes into nature conservation come in and helps the pool workers who are villages deal within this redistribution is also somehow wrong and go do you want such a doc documents document very

perhaps rarely hon. simself any more day. he wants to shoot an antelope meet for guests and employees. he owns an area and some bob boy, slightly smaller than him the 30 years ago, which was a capital farm. now, happy tax from many endangered species. decency finances nature conservation through his wealth and hunting income or the scaffold you're off. so

i need to be on the lookout because this is a walk. run a mountain on like, you know, the parts of africa, the number of runny nose has been increasing in the south a valley. the fed clear arguments for the past and save uh, a regulated trophy hunting space in case of 2 pages on the field with now on track . so having around 400 really notes here in the next 5 years. because at some point in time it would be possible to make a rhino and find a home to some european or american to shoot to. and if that means that the one animal pays for all of the conservation in the car, and i think it's great to shots proper, beside, unfinished us off for coming or the

private drawing and protection. forcible. so it looks to sort, searching here the forces, recruiting new ranges. these lots of good men in these communities is thousands. we surrounded by thousands of people. so why, why go far, far off to funding, why not fund goodman from here and support your community? that's the key. the mercedes made to marry, maintains the rhino database that we haven't because of, as he has an f one to all them. so we create a for, to all the effects at the foot of the, for the identification that we have made. so that we can, we can see if you do have to create a new house. so what you want to do with this data is we went to analyze like you population is progressing. the past and other hunting organizations finance

about a quote of the protection for special case we've got a lot of independent dinah funding from, from diners outside on that or on choose each property that's way their own china is are bringing in the funding through hunting inside of graphics and that kind of thing. so through they, they, they business model, but it's still not enough. the number of elephants in the south a valley has also increased thanks to price clemons on his team who come back to poaching in general. the number of elephants in southern africa has increased slightly and because humans have pushed them on to small primitives, populations aren't even sometimes overcrowded. they rage nearby villages and destroy crops, sometimes even happy toughs. the mighty bellow about the trees important ecosystems. forms has gone up trees just imploded in front of the road. we

have to have under the trees, suffer from the climate crisis. but also because elephants eat the moist bob quinn, voters gas as shown target to sign pounds tragic to see a tree of centuries old being destroyed simply because we have too many animals to feed it. that's the challenge. that's just not the we shoot 3 elements of design go every year and go to complete nonsense. all the files is highly goldens into conservationist. daniela fry a is just as passionate as really paps, but her goal is to achieve an e. u wide band on the import of hunting trophies in brussels to give you some data towards here was parliamentarians and also with the you commission are important and guessing these plans implemented. and that the you as a whole ultimately found the impulse of trophies

high, low daniella from ya on degrees. parliamentarian, if one of the, of course we're really pleased to see the majority has widened in the new parliament and for the people it's clear. so if you show that the majority of european citizens are against trophy hunting till seeing you act up clean and think it's also about to set and prestige related to hunting. which in my opinion is totally outdated. the you would definitely be ready to take the next step to make so scripts and then the parliaments cool to bomb the impulse of trophies is a success for daniella freya and us sent back for stefan ventilation. like most countries in southern africa and maybe a, a poses an import fund failing, it could lead to fuel guests and less revenue which is why have,

on the lease has allies in the ministry of environment and tourism 1st so far so good as well. yeah. romeo, ma'am, were you and is the ministry spokes past? defend one dimension, updates him on the current developments in europe. i'm going to send you 2 links. there's also a new one where you can use, you can reach the public segment of the european volume, and i've also sentence saying um, be be careful and effective span of profit hunting and why life traits so and now that's okay. thing as is what it was not possible to implement only for joe mean dominate, and all of a advocating for it and brussels on of you repeat live. all right,

that evening staff and one of the nation ment with mac cpr newest organizations supports and maybe in consistencies which are partially financed by hunting have a situation in finland, italy, and now it's back in germany. we don't understand why. that's why jim, in decision make us make decisions on our behalf. we have really puzzled by that to be honest. so here it's a simple question of equality and respect. if there's a problem, let's fix it to give a, let's fix it together. you cannot just bend things and you don't give us out of tentative conservation cannot put bread on people stable then we might also as well forget about conservation an unusual encounter in south africa. hunting critic,

adam cruz was about to meet hunting, organize the carlo annual published. so i'm interested in seeing how he is contributing to conservation uh with trophy hunting. yeah, we'll call a single break and safari. it's the 1st time the to have spoken. it's been not an argument saying that you're taking off the trophy, you taken out the base jeans of that's b c. so a lot of cases it will be the case happening. you have, you've got a client in the place, top dollars and you do, you allow them to shoot the biggest and strongest animal that you have a bike. so i want to have a few to with, with a game full. and if you go to any farm and let's go back to the exit coats that he bought and sold, he's based boldly. pushed breeds really knows on his from the,

the, to african rhinos. bases have been all, most eradicated in the last century. may need you to that prize torres from the population of around 1000000 only 222-5000 germane and poaching continues to threaten their existence where you just link angle, greystone money from rhino hunting and they protect that animals. this landscape kid wasn't foaming then skype created heaven cut these mobile life, these other guy, molten living kid, this farm. it has also conservation venue to a certain extent, my grid is yeah. is that we gained up in this the stop in will. the way you have animals that have venue, like rhino is native friends and lines in these kind of conditions and

all the wilds, habitat disappears. true conservation value is where you have an area that is pure biodiversity, where a rhino doesn't just exist in itself as a rhino, but it's part of a much broader ecosystem that functions absolutely. purposefully angered believes that animals can only be safe, just they have a market value. it's all the countries them, the input of trophies. he has a plan b because he's also as far as the funding developed. and if the world abolishes the market value of wild animal funds and you can no longer make money from them, then they have to go funds to be important. then we plant tree amount of culture. and then you'll only have eucalyptus trees. instead of 30 different wild species on one patch of land or the football, it's one of the most contentious questions. how much does the trophy hunting

contribute to habitat comes to the nation? the sun is setting on tri fi, hunting. it's an industry in decline. it's an industry that one day is going to disappear. so by creating those bands, it's going to stop in forcing us to think of other alternatives that are more progressive and will probably have a great benefit on the impact of by diversity on this continent. what's happening here is the opposite. it's even controversial among hunters breeding lions to be hunted later. i show you some of the licensing. yeah. any you would like read his work to create particularly attractive lion? there's a lot of money. no question. well, so office 1010, so that's my little bit of a kid with probably the one that have an opportunity to but it definitely the

social 80 with dental would be nice. the good, the big black to me. the result is customized animals, painted exclusively to the desires both the hunters. the condos does on people, the customer sees what's on offer is a full price for a full name. what's the process? a medium line or a weaker line for less. it all depends on the price of it was even locked in price . it ministry style videos are used to promote the can tons. at least $1000.00 tech does, are reserved for the deadly safaris that's conservation. as farmers in south africa doing that and for life we predict that city lines the lions all day in the world because people tend to audit coming on. yeah. for way cheaper than going down to

a line into well south african breeding centers now account for almost a so just african lyons let's hear the companies to spend the stuff is the slow to you. of course i understand that people are troubled by the concept. but why doesn't anyone complain about the cattle that are slaughtered lube this lion? this animal is also bred and has been hunted while the cattle are slaughtered. does it in victory, should often but does this argument really make sense? for us to get amaze breeds more than just lions funding. he stores meat from the other animals and sells it, but not flying late to meet the alliance, we've just got them for the way. you cannot do anything. well, it goes. if you start facing the lion, meet back to the lions to get the dice for alliance and then actually when they

start fighting each other and that. and then i stop by stop eating each other the hunting of captive bred lions is not the rule that's had controversial exception. stale about 10000 and such animals exist in south africa. panama november 2020 to the states if the washington convention on international trade in endangered species meant to negotiate the future of endangered species. lo be groups were also the because the agenda included the international train, huge of hunting trophies. item crew spoke at a related and t hunting event on his research and the maybe he also met his adversaries. the hunters, the wow. the

couple of weeks ago was in the media. i spoke to a group of doesn't was so women and children conservancy they say provides nothing . and yet we keep hearing the story about these consistencies being successful. that they were making millions of dollars from activities like trophy hunting. this is the great conservation lie and ends in hunting advocates. many pub thank you very much. my name is willie boxed, i'm a member of the c i. c. i am a conservationist out of some bob fit all of our indigenous people on the venue. welcome to questions, but no speeches. i have to give you a little narrative. otherwise i called asked the question festival, often more than a minute of speaking without your question really packs,

this interrupted happens. if we do that, okay, if you don't want to, that's fine. i feel crazy. that's not what i would call democracy. could be that as it may okay. dictatorship is what i call that and then kind of feel, okay. no it's, it's actually very funny. why is it room full of let me be in? see it and somebody else? and speaking our case, what stops me from guidance in the media is and speak to your people. because from what i have from them, you are not listening to them. a dash of interest. practically irreconcilable and more open dialogue might help to tackle the complex issues surrounding the topic. and also everyone feels hood being headed at so many problems. and we continue and editing those

problems we, i'm a bunch abused we've what is a and that's what we have done. the last is never had an interest to bring. i forgot to any level the i just concerned about what they are concerned about. in the end, the trophy trade was nice and notably restricted, nor relaxed that the conference escaped misty. i know it is. it's all about the mind. there is no one solution that's a problem on what we're looking for is just a recognition of the sustainable use of wild animals as an alternative model to an even all i am will that the debate is as an impass bryce clements from this in bond for a rhino conservation force is one of the few people working with both sides. he's been fighting for endangered species since his childhood. the shooting

something to hang on. the walls automatically was that a lot of people that would want to see it stopped immediately. they need to help us find sources of funding wise, and we need good people to come together with an open mind and find solutions to, to all of this. otherwise, you know, it hangs in the balance very good to go. the trophy hunting is controversial, but not everything is as clear cut as it seems that says drums. what is clear is that to protecting habitats costs a lot of money. they can move and that's money. has to come from somewhere in the

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