it was like devices presented, dw used on instagram and follow up the hello and welcome to the 7th 7 percent. so this week we are in 10 years. capital nairobi west since june, mississippi. and indeed, the rest of the country has been turned into a political stage visa protests by young people and some even lost their lives. small coming up on this very special edition. so i'm either a few months now if you've seen any images from kind of lately, you may notice that today is a very quiet did here and they will be there. no tempting crowds must just lead no to augusta. but since we've june, young tenants have been gathering on these 3 in town halls and also online. now initially the most agency for testers, one to the controversial finance field that would increase taxes in the country to

be dropped. but now those protests like others in africa are about much more than a single issue. here's what's coming up. we'll find out what stocks can we look at previously, a protest from a part of the confidence and we'll try to find out what we had. but before we go any further, let's take a look at what's happened until now. this will be in the day it would be traffic congestion on the road. but right now the road is full of young people. what being towed, testing a contribution for a nice be of police using what i would consider to be excessive force. at the moment we've just had to pull back. we had seen somebody gets injured just beyond the road to the it's sorted out as peaceful protests, young kenyans,

draped in flags, coins that can use parliament to reject a finance build up. many felt imposed exorbitantly high texas on an already squeezed canyon population. would i be paying taxes and then you do that you, i think they're not doing much would be to the this includes in the protest is with soon, much with t goes water, cannons, arrests, and even live bullets. the 2nd day of protests ended in the depths of 29 year old mex messiah allegedly strong in the evening of the protest. and 21 year old evans q . how to, who died off to. he was huge by a to you guys kind of stuff yet. that was our need to start on june 25th. the purchase went nationwide. in library be the focus was in homage and up the m p. 's version for the adoption of a finance bill purchased a storm,

the national assembly with police opening file. and this is all of the was from parliament that it was actually brought down by the protest as well as a lot all of these a truck on the south side that has been bunch belonged to the police since the beginning of the protest or the 50 people lost their lives and many more we injured, but that is not the time people. they organize, blood donations, raise money to put hospice, who bills and organize the concepts and remembrance of the victims for the longest time needs to be. nothing has been the hands of the old. i'm the lead to. i'm the rich dogs, but i have a question which, i mean, it's the majority of the continent. we are the ones who don't have jobs, but the ones name to be the city and see trying to get it to go abroad. so the west end, you know what you want to fight for a country instead of dining, the high seas, a bunch of domingo jobs. and you're in the week since the protests have become most unlike the numbers of witness in the previous weeks to date, very few protest as have come out to impart due to the high number of security

details you can see behind me they keep loving to i guess it's all over the, at, with a heavy security presence arrest and often even abductions, by planned, clicked offices. the protest is may not only be in the streets, but the conversations continue on ex spaces offline and 3 quotes and petitions. this is, have the political oh, it came in. everyone is the, you know, an excellent, what is this is the allowed taking pictures and you know, we're asking them david questions. and so many people are seeing this as has died. but it's actually the beginning and the government's response can use the president has sent the finance bill back to parliament and dismissed his entire cabinets. he has attempted to dialogue with the per testers, but they say he's actions to ensure true will know is the bill here is to be walking on the street because this was the size of some of the west. me says during the never be protest. now the countries parliament is just around the corner,

and on june 25th young people were able to reach the battery as the and dame. and so you know, of cost a lot of people was injured and minimal also lost their lives. now being vice of young people to discuss this issue and to tell us why exactly the what else on the street. and it turns out that the one more interested in talking about how security personnel dealt with the protest once the hello and welcome back to the 77 percent strict debates. my name is edith kimani, and this week we are back in 10 as capital of ne ruby. but we're here to ask a protest. the only way for can is to get the voices hug. and what's next for the young people of this movement, who better to answer that question than the actual members of the movement took you? right? let's start with you because you stood up to a police officer and you said, you're not taking me anywhere. i'm standing up for my rights. why, why you so angry that day? that's was the 2nd be of the protest. and on the 1st the i had be and i re states,

i wouldn't even use the term iris. and because i was, i'm bushed by pain clips of he says, and they to mean to vehicle they harassed me. the beats me and they took me to central police and we were detained among the protest as until 8 pm. so it's a, i didn't understand why the people the minds and had to be met with such brutality. so i was like, if this moment, if i happens to me, i get i have to be able to speak up for myself and to be honest, i was scared by to my anger and frustration succeeded my fia, at that point. right, so shakira is uncle superseding of fear. mohammad, you are a journalist to communicate to but very much also involved in these protests. so i did ask the question, what sparked the approaches because i mean canyons have been known to purchase for a while, but not like this. not at the scale can now come to the bank of simple use on so many times. but the revolution that's a very strong what it is, a very strong body. i think we can go back all the way to the ninety's when you had

the monkey party out when will fight. and from what you thought you, the most us in this country, 2002, when all of us was who to talk and say, and go to, is it kind of belong way. there's one uniform, fucked swapped. and that is $0.42 or just come in and hijacked the movements and make it about themselves. so what's the difference, this thing don't, i think the people that they got tired of that. so then what is the message now? because at the beginning it was very clear, right? reject the find that's bill and i want to speak some people who participated in the protest. i did that involve binding buildings looting businesses, because this is also what the young people have been accused of. like the 1st day when drugs got shot, i was in there beside those and cbd up full of as excited to go home. because it's the end of the day night time was coming. the streets will generally not going to be safe. people left, but then the meetings are coming to downtown, you're being towards all the people who are here to lagoons, people, businesses where i in fact before kept most of the professors are trying to go home

. all of us wanted to go from we would type, let me bring in a child, so we know who you might recognize as a form us books best on for the police. based on your own assessment, an observation, how would you rate the behavior of putting used was the protest of in those early days that they sometimes have be conflict, but police find themselves in because as you had the young man talk, most of these issues as a political provenance between the public and politicians, police officers coming to enforce laws and regulations of midland. well, what kind of constitution is i'd be more vibrant. and i think what the 7 of the constitution provides that you can demonstrate to you can assemble, you can pick it to kind of present petitions to authorities, piece in place. and then who do the police respond and serve? do they consider us 1st or the politicians, the police going to see does the nation every one of you?

because for example, she's a business woman. if you're breaking to hardship, to what happens to her. so from where i seats, i don't want to defend anybody, but what i'm saying is kind of, we follow the law. okay, let me hear from some people here because i'm seeing the house coming up. if it didn't want us to ourselves, the default position of the police of this country since independence household of the household has been filed. i know some of the people who came out during the support is that kids, well for middle class families, police brutality for them. it's things they see on tv or they need them to people. if you go to these low income on all these neighborhoods, they've been following settlements. the more that is the keep does. this is the data. if you have reached the sun's cute without any due process. yeah. so we have somebody here from the law society of can you, what does the law say about peaceful protests and what the police on the right. because we saw images of people holding just the flag. and yet they're being sprayed before. it's a kind of the unfortunate thing that we have weaknesses in this country. is that the keep up with tutored by the state and obviously of these because we saw

a quote involving the issue. i know that they had a team that the police officers would not to use like the we put in the, you know, to use force was, you know, see was what the economy. and it was created, directive things, but the general police to ensure that the probably that combined the following the there was a product as failed denies in the various cities. and we could witness the police waiting to devotional that order. i'm going to give me, so we're not just respond to that. and then i want us to move away from the issue of felicia, when you, by the police from using the tools are required for the treat. you mean live, i munition different labor. i mean, nation, yes, i don't want to lie. i want to be video next year. even live, i munition is totally of, of, is a tool of trade for the police. we have had cases of terrorism here, people coming with the bombs and fight. i'm so what i'm saying is that when it comes to the, i guess the quote trying to stop the police from having using t i guys are using but on what when using his get. it is misplaced in the sense

that it is equivalent to telling the police the police station let us protest. the president has already made some concessions, fired nearly his entire cabinet, has now re appointed. some people are to still be made to them. how do you feel about that? do you feel like the president is listening to the demands of the youth? honestly, i don't think it is because um, if you see that a shuffle, it's like she just switched positions. you know, it's like this person was here. come stay here you go, stay here. just just to show people. it's like, it's pretty that old was people's mind. like, i've done something. so what the real issues, let's come back to that. it's evidence that when we say rude to him, i school, we don't specifically refer to roots so much of the anti government that he's backing him up. they've been given a chance. time and time again, cause this up when you chance of had a boat since i was i need to go. so i think it's just time we it's like

it because tracking everything and start afresh for my new foundation. so what are the solutions? i'm going to plead if a youth my children go to school in that will be, i walk in that will be, that means my children and they'll go to school. i would not go to black and i am a single mother of 3 children. kindly, as a human being, i wish i hope that this protest can take a big time. so why don't you support the movement? you don't want lots of business. they don't want the loss of life. okay. understood, let me get some more points. my solution is simple here, bang people, you. i didn't my unit stop tribalism. the driver, excuse me. i don't say you add a tribal if i say we have been practicing probably bully them. you ident emission should stop. i want to see an election where you are going to elect people based

on, on or not based on the policies that they want to send to you because got in police, that's a fair point. and finally, i'd like to hear from you more. let's close this with you. as, as civilians, we're going to take a civic duty very seriously from now on the other day on to, to we had to different similar thing, a street spaces on wednesday. well, one group was teaching people about the bills that are being tabled in parliament and other people stitching people. if a group of him, lawyers were teaching people about the country. but the, the constitution read teaching a point to bring to make life very uncomfortable for point additions and then a non violent fee. okay. let me just clarify, right? so we have to rock that because of the time. but i did ask a question, you know what next? and i think the answer has been very clear here that even if it's not on the streets, it's going to be somewhere online, or perhaps that's what debates like this, right? so i thank you all for participating. i did read somewhere that these protests will not so much on side government,

but pro good governance. and i think this debate has clearly illustrated that. thank you for watching a thank you so much to everyone who investigates now the longer version is available on youtube and just for your information that we had initially approved several politicians and p to try to understand how they see their role in one of these political changes, but the ones able to during our debate so much like caea intend nigeria use was a sense of one of the largest protest movements in africa. and saw can you believe that it's already been for years? so let's take a look back at what the process thousands had got it to peacefully demonstrate it, gave rise in cases of police brutality. i know that the protests were largely peaceful because i was there before 2. but that evening, the protest phones illegals were turned into christ for help. and the same place

where people called for their rights to be upheld would be the same place. they were killed. it all started on the 3rd of october, policemen from the special anti rubbery squad unit, better known as far as allegedly killed a young man in southern delta state and took away his scar as a video of the deadly of salt lake online. hundreds of young people took the social media event and share their own. so i was experiences, all of which were bad. so i was, was initially formed in 1992 to tackle armed robbery in the country. but the units grew into inventory, of course, popular for a store thing and abusing young nigerians might have to raise the on my anger against stars had gold so much that is built into the streets. nationwide. illegals, protest is mounted roadblocks and shut down traffic. thousands, get it other lucky to get a major highway in the which area of the city. this would come to be the main demonstration points. their demands was simple. they wanted size band that

officials put so q did and for victims to be compensated. but they were also advocated for the officials themselves. they wanted them to be mentally evaluated, and for the salaries to be increased, so that it would have fewer reasons to exploit on the 11th, as the process gave momentum, the nigerian police finally scraps thoughts deficient drove bruce quote of denied europe for this. i know where is known, the size is he ever deserved, but people way of buying it. this wasn't the 1st time the police was claiming to reform stars. by then, the demonstrations had become more of a movement anyways, and people were demanding not just the police reforms for better governance. on monday the 19th legal scale, no budget is so lou for that additional panel to look is the size of uses for the protest continues still and see for some cases of police crackdowns,

they were largely fiscal all the criminal elements. first product that you feel treat as thousands of protesters got it again and lucky to get on tuesday. october 20th. they notice the things with different people told me that they still told gave staff we moving cameras installed in the area. and that as evening fell, the street lights wouldn't come on leaving the place completely dark at around 4 pm . good enough. so lu, impose the curfew, trying to is to order, but many poor testers at the, till the we made there. then at around 7, middle to 9 june armies rolled in on several vans and started to choose the own. i'm demonstrators. eye witnesses told me the count of several buddies that night taken away by the army. but it wasn't over. as one of the keyless traveled remarks due to the streets, looting shops, burning, viewed as an attack and policeman,

12 people died according to amnesty international and many more were injured to the $92.00 and the government to set up judicial panels to look into the police violence but denies the killings of october 20th. like any of you took to the suite of successful you have the controversial saws for these units disbanded. what are these? well, people died on that night of what it is now known as the less you told the mazda. com. so what happens during such process and why did the police meet often react to this we, i guess he's still protest of what we're supposed to feel free to ask for to hearing kenya. and this is what he had to say. it's the day of the protest, hundreds, perhaps thousands of people stream into the streets. the organizes had notified the police, but the sheer numbers overwhelming. so how to react that in scenario is that any unique that is past due manage within that diction would go in to

protect those the royalties. i mean, those protest us to get to the end to get them in which case, you know, presented petition to a, the power or, or an agent of the target. and i didn't know way to influence auction to just basically spell out the grievances on. once that is done, been go buckled peacefully over the top is fully to the police as opposed to protect, especially in countries which guarantee the right to freedom of assembly. in other words, the right to protest, but then we will suggest seen where the excess is on the part of the old and well, you know, as the noise, you know, in future does come in to take a bunch of the she and numbers. and that's about getting the infrastructure that's supposed to be providing security. how booked to be very vigilant to a single out. this advertise on to relevantly apply force to, you know, impede some of these actions on or to arrest them altogether. what we've seen

across the african continent, however, is that police are onto the t. and in many cases, when the situation becomes more volatile, they fail to be escalate and king is most the reason protest. please used to your guys and what kind of the despise, even just a handful of people. and in addition to that, to be filmed, offices use the fire arms, even if you have to drop out a weapon and to shoot at, you know, at, at whatever it is that is out there. there's got to be an existent shots, the right to live. that is, it of the life of the opiates of themselves, sophisticated agencies on the, or these ones on destruction or property. or this are risk to, you know, a threat to life, especially on the part of the people that are being protected in preparation for the c followed cup and south of the game. 2010 police as security forces got special training to prepare them to control the products of fluids and football fans. and that would depend on the industry for south africa,

which really emerged from the boot oper type era. a few years back, it was a learning curve. they could not afford to enjoy this in fine. so what needs to be changed back to training discipline and more consequences for those who don't stick to the rules. what's clear is that the change needs to come from the top. so we've now looked of can now we've looked at like syria. what's another country that's still a very prolonged use uprising for south africa. the fees must fall protests to place between 2015 to 2017, almost a decade ago. i got time students of protesting the high cost of universities. and because we wanted to find out what happens to move and when that initial wave of protest size though we us some of those former students, the reality is that society is high. so as, as we begin sandals running around causing chaos. i think that the student movements, i get a bad rap really,

really bad rap because all that people see is the violence. but they don't know what has to happen in order to get to that stage. and so i'm going to visit you just lovely dealing with people. well, i don't care a, do you know if it was the one to release the ins and so he now in a post these last for united way the media, we're academia itself is loading things in the school. as you know, there's a visionary movement in a post and the projects that i forgot. but at the time of these, my school moved very isolated and we were treated as patriot and shoulder if you didn't understand the reality of us as opposed to it's almost been a decade. the students who have ment, fuels by the high cost of university fees, in the sense that the education system was talking to apple side um colonial past clone instructions with toppled under the hash tag roots. most of the students demand that the university fees must full for the advocation. this not only

accessible to reach the students funky page to accomplish this, but it will also mess with polls by police and the university is private security investment, which what does this mean? so because we cause ungovernable diversity we took over from the punishment, it's much harder to organize when they are private, security with rifles gliding different buildings, and as much time to organize when even during the teens piece, with the code and for the time to shut down the campuses put enough pressure on the university is to agree to some of the other ones to be believable, but then zoom agreed to us and called for free education. but now we needed them to state. how is going to be funded. we know that transportation never came, and so it is obviously just a tactic to the mobilize us and it was very sexy. 9 years down the lines,

students with places of advocates of best universities still here losing debt sports due to outstanding debt. in 2024, over 1900000 students applied for financial aid. it just feels like every single generation is going to fight. they best fight and then woke to steps forward 10 steps back. and we keep advancing. we do. but at just an incredibly slow rate. and what did they learn from me? jersey is that we was young, we were making things up as we went along. one of the things picked up to us a made is, is young people to refuse? most folks is that to do also to your m go out to our communities involved them organize, mobilize and organize,

and or elect members that you trust that i've betted. also mobilization that is directly talking to the institution, you'll protesting. my hope is that we as young africans can revive the spirit of an african struggle that we can support each other. as was the case in the sixty's in the seventy's, there's a need for us to go back to our roots and to read and to nod and to speak to, i'll do. and so i'm very excited for what the future holds for young africans who are taking their power back. so reflection disappointments, but perhaps as we just had, oh, well, we've come to the end of our show, but hearing kenya, the countries use a still in the midst of things will continue to bring you the latest developers. and you can also follow us on 6 talk the costs for you to, as you can also find this point is the ground. thank you so much for watching.

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