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the ration backslash industry is kind of funny. it feels like you hear me hello and welcome to the 77 percent. so this week we are in 10 years. capital nairobi west since june, mississippi. and indeed, the rest of the country has been turned into a political stage. the remains of protest like young people and some even lost their lives. small coming up on this very special edition. so i'm just few months now if you've seen any images from kind of lately, you may notice that today is a very quiet z jane, a ruby. there's no chance in crowds must just lead no t. augusta but seems to be june. young tenants have been gathering on these 3 in town halls and also online. now initially the mostly just before the test as one to the controversial finance field that would increase taxes in the country to be
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dropped. but now those protests like others in africa are about much more than a single issue. here's what's coming up. we'll find out what steps can we look at previously, a protest from a part of the confidence and we'll try to find out all this. but before we go any further, let's take a look at what's happened until now. this will be in a normal day, it would be just last week, congestion on the road, but right now the road is full of young people. what being towed, testing are controlled by some finance physically using what i would consider to be excessive force at the moment we've just had to pull back. we have seen somebody gets injured just beyond the road to the it started out as peaceful
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protests. young canyons draped in flags calling to kenya's parliament to reject a finance build up. many felt imposed exorbitantly high texas on an already squeezed canyon population. would i be paying taxes? and then you do that you. i think they're not doing much would be to the inclusion z. protest is pursued much with t goes water, cannons, arrests, and even live bullets. the 2nd day of protests ended in the depths of 29 year old mex messiah allegedly strolled in the evening of the protest and 21 year old evans q. how to, who died off to he was huge by to you guys kind of stuff. yes. that was our need to start on june 25th to purchase went nationwide in library be the focus was in homage and up to m. p. 's version for the adoption of a finance bill purchased
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a storm and national assembly with police opening file. and this is all of the was from problem inside. it was actually brought down by the protest as lab as black or low by these a truck on the south side. that has been buns belong to the police since the beginning of the protest or the 50 people lost in lives and many more we injured. but that is not the time people. they organized blood donations, raise money to put hospice, who bills and organize the concepts and remembers of the victims for the longest time needed to be. nothing has been the hands of the old and they lead to the rich dogs. but only because, you know, which, i mean it's the majority of the continent. we are the ones that are not jobs, but the ones that have to be today and see trying to get it to go abroad. so the question, you know what you want to put to our country instead of dining the high seas, i'm going to do menial jobs and you're in the week since the protests have become most unlike the number of witnesses in the previous weeks today. very few protest as have come out or impart due to the high number of security details. you can see
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behind me they keep loving to i guess it's all over the, at, with the heavy security presence arrests, and also even abductions. my plan includes offices, the protest as may not be in the streets, but the conversations continue or next spaces offline and 3 quotes and petitions. this is the political oh, it can mean everyone is the, you know, the interest pulling what it, this is around taking pictures and you know, we're asking them david questions. and so many people are seeing this as has died. but it's extremely the beginning. and the government's response can use president has sent the finance bill back to parliament and dismissed his entire cabinet. he has attempted to dialogue with the per testers, but they say he's actions to ensure a true will. now is the bill here. it's to be walking on the streets because this was the size of some of the west. me says during that i really protest. now the countries parliament is just around the corner. and on june 25th young people,
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what able to reach the barriers, the, and data entry. you know, of course, a lot of people was injured and many more also lost their lives. now we must have young people to discuss this issue and to tell us why exactly the what else in the streets. and it turns out that the more interested in talking about how security personnel dealt with it for testers. watch the hello and welcome back to the service of epithet street debates. my name is edith kimani, and this week we have back in 10 years capitol of ne ruby. but we're here to ask a protest. the only way for kids to get their voices, hud, and what next? what the young people of this movement, who better to answer that question the, the actual members of the movement took you right. let's start with you because you stood up to a police officer and you said, you're not taking me anywhere. i'm standing up for my rights. why? why you so angry that day? that's was the 2nd be of the protest. and on the 1st the i had been, i real estate,
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i wasn't even use the time i just said, because i was, i'm bushed by pain clips of he says, and they threw me into a vehicle. they had asked me, they beats me and they took me to central police, and we were detained among the protest as until 8 pm. so it's a, i didn't understand why the people in the minds and had to be met with such brutality. so i was like, if this moment, if i happens to me, i get i have to be able to speak up for myself and to be honest, i was scared to but to my anger and frustration succeeded my fia. at that point. right. so shakira is august superseding her fear. mohammad, you are a journalist to communicate to but very much also involved in these protests. so i did ask the question, what sparked the protest because i mean canyons have been known to purchase for a while, but not like this, not at this scale. can you come to the dealership on this, on so many times, but the revolution that's a very strong what it is, a very strong, but i think we can go back all the way to the ninety's when you had the multi party
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out when we will fight them for multi part to democracy in this country. 2002, when all of us watch who to talk and say, and you'll tell us that kind of get on with this one, uniform, fucked up swapped. and that is for the additions owners come in and hijacked the movements and making them all themselves. so what's the difference, this thing fall? and i think the people that they got tired of that. so then what is the message now? because at the beginning it was very clear, right? rejected the finance bill. i don't want to speak to some people who participated in the protest. i did that involve binding buildings looting businesses, because this is also what the young people are being accused of like the 1st day when drugs got short was in the potatoes and cbd up full. and it was decided to go home because it's the end of the day night time was coming in the streets, which are, you know, going to be safe, people left. but then the meetings are coming to downtown. you're being told all the people who are here to lagoons, people businesses or i in fact before kept,
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most of the professors are trying to go home. all of us wanted to go through. we were tired, let me bringing a child so we know who you might recognize as a form us books best on for the police, based on your own assessments, an observation, how would you rate the behavior of police to was the protest of in those early days that they sometimes they'll be conflict that police find themselves in because as you had the young man talk, most of these issues as a political provenance between the public and politicians. police officers coming in force laws and regulations of midland. well, what kind of constitution is i'd be more if i print and i think with the 7 of the constitution provides that you can demonstrate to you can assemble, you can pick it to kind of present petitions to authorities, piece in place. and then who do the police respond and serve? do they consider us 1st or the politicians? the police can see does the nation every one of you?
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because for example, she's a business woman. if you're breaking to hardship and what happens to her, so from where i seats, i don't want to defend anybody. but what i'm saying is kind of, we follow the law. okay. let me hear from some people here because i'm seeing the house coming up. is it being on his boss of the default position of the police of discounting since independence household of household has been filed? i know some of the people who came out during the support is that kids, well for middle class families, police brutality for them. it's things they see on tv or they need them to people. if you go to these low income on all these neighborhoods, this informant settlements, the more that is the keep does. this is the data. if you have reached the suns killed without any due process. yeah, so we have somebody here from the law society of kenya. what does the law say about peaceful protests and what the police on the right? because we saw images of people holding just the flag and yet they're being sprayed before. it's a kind of the unfortunate thing that we have weaknesses in this country, is that the keep up with tutored by the states and obviously of these because we
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saw a quote in modeling the issue. i know that a team that the police officers would not to use the we put in the, you know, to use force was, you know, see was what the economy. and it was created data of things, but to general police to ensure that the probably that combined the following the there was a product as detailed and nice in the video cities. and we called which is the police waiting to devotional that order. i'm going to give me so you know, just respond to that and then i want us to move away from the issue of police. yeah . when you by the police from using the tools required for the i treat you mean live, i munition, it went live. i mean, nation, yes, i don't want to lie. i want to be very honest. you even live, i mean, nation is total of, of is a tool of trade for the police. we have had cases of terrorism here, people coming with the bombs and fire. and so what i'm saying is that when it comes to the, i guess the court trying to stop the police from having using t i guys what are using but on what when using his get, it is misplaced in the sense that it is equivalent to telling the police said the
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police station, let us protest. the president has already made some concessions, fired nearly his entire cabinet has now re appointed. some people are to still be made to them. how do you feel about that? do you feel like the president is listening to the demands of the youth? honestly, i don't think it is because um, if you see the shuffle, it's like he just switched positions. you know, it's like this person was here. come stay here. you go. stay here. just just to show people, it's like it's pretty settled with people's mind. like i'm of done something. so what the real issues, let's come back to that. it's evidence that when we say route to my school, we don't specifically refer to roots so much of the anti government that he's backing him up. they've been given a chance time and time again because this up when you chance of had to about since i was i need to golf. so i think it's just time we it's like
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it because the directing everything and start afresh for my new foundation. so what are the solutions i'm going to plead with a youth. my children go to school in that will be, i walk in that will be, that means my children and no go to school. i would not go to black and i am a single mother of 3 children kindly as a human being. i wish i hope that this protest can take a big lots. so while you support the movement, you don't want lots of business. they don't want the loss of life. okay. understood, let me get some more points. my solution is simply a band people you, i didn't my unit stop tribalism. the driver, excuse me. i don't say you add a tribal if i say we have been practicing for a bully, them you identification should stop. i want to see an election where you are
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going to elect people based on, on or not based on the policies that they want to send to you because got in police, that's a fair point. and finally, i'd like to hear from you more. let's close this with you. as, as civilians, we're going to take all a civic duty very seriously from now on the day on tuesday we had 2 different similar thing, a street spaces on wednesday. well, one group was teaching people about the bills that are being tabled in parliament and other people's teaching people. if a group of him boys were teaching people about their talk to you about the, the constitution reading a point to, they're going to make life very uncomfortable for point additions. and then i'm non violent for you. okay. let me just clarify, right? so we have to rock that because of the time, but i did ask a question, you know what next? and i think the answer has been very clear here that even if it's not on the streets, it's going to be somewhere online or perhaps so debates like this. right. so i thank you all for participating. i did read somewhere that these protests will not so much on side government,
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but pro good governance. and i think this debate has clearly illustrated that. thank you for watching. ok. thank you so much to everyone who investigates now the longer version is available on youtube and just for your information that we had initially approved several politicians and p to try to understand how they see their role in one of these political changes. but the ones able to do in our debate so much like here and kinda nigeria use was a sense of one of the largest protest movements in africa and size. can you believe that it's already been for years? so let's take a look back at what's the process of what thousands had got it to peacefully demonstrate it gave rise in cases of police brutality. i know that the protests were largely peaceful because i was there with 4 to with that evening. the protest songs in legal would turn into christ for health and the same place where people
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called for their rights to be upheld would be the same place. they were killed. it all started on the 3rd of october, policemen from the special anti rubbery squad unit, better known as far as allegedly killed a young man in southern delta state and took away his scar as a video of the deadly of salt lake online. hundreds of young people took the social media event and share their own. so i was experiences, all of which went back. so i was, was initially formed in 1992 to tackle armed robbery in the country. but the units grew into inventory, of course, popular for a store tense and abusing young nigerians. might have to raise the on my anger against, sorry, i had gone so much that is built into the streets. nationwide. illegals, protest is mounted road blocks and shut down traffic. thousands got it. and the lucky tomb gave a major highway in the which area of the city. this would come to be the main demonstration points. their demands was simple, they wanted size band,
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bad officials posted to did. and so the victims to be compensated. but they were also advocated for the officials themselves. they wanted them to be mentally evaluated, and for the salaries to be increased, so that it would have fewer reasons to extort. on the 11th, as the process gave momentum, the nigerian police finally scraps, thoughts, deficient, drawbridge quote of denied europe for this and no worries, none the size is here but dissolved, but people were buying it. this wasn't the 1st time the police was claiming to reform stars by then the demonstrations had become more of a move met anyways, and people with the monday, not just the police reforms before better governance on monday, the 19th legal scale, no budget is so lou from a traditional panel to look into saws of uses for the protest continues still and
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see for some cases of police crackdowns, they were largely fiscal. all the criminal elements has started. so if you'll treat as thousands of protesters got it again and lucky to get on tuesday, october 20th. they noticed the things with different people told me that they salt told, gave staff. we move in ccv cameras installed in the area. and that as evening fell, the street lights wouldn't come on leaving the place completely dark at around 4 pm grove, no. show lou, impose the curfew, trying to is to order. but many poor testers at the toll date we made there. then at around 7, middle to 9 june armies holding on several vans started to shoot the own. i'm demonstrators. eye witnesses told me the count of several buddies that night taken away by the army. but it wasn't over. as one of the keyless traveled remarks to the streets, newton shops, burning beauties and attacking policemen. 12 people died according to amnesty
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international, and many more were injured to the 92 and the government to set up judicial panels to look into the police violence, but denies the killings of october. 20th nigeria, you took to the streets as successfully you have the controversial saw police, the units disbanded. what are these? well, people died on that night of what it is now known as the less you told the mazda. com. so what happens during such protests and why does the police meet often react to this we, i guess he's still protest of what we're supposed to secrete the experts here in kenya. and this is what he had to say. it's the day of the protest. hundreds, perhaps thousands of people stream into the street. the organizes had notified the police, but the sheer numbers overwhelming. so how to react that in scenario is that any unit that is past due manage within that, you know,
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did addiction would go in to protect those royalties? i mean, those protest us to get to the end the game in which case, you know, present a petition to a, the power or an agent of the target. and you know, way to influence auction to, to just basically spell out their grievances. and once that is done, then go back home peacefully, over the top is for the to the police as opposed to protect, especially in countries which guarantee the right to freedom of assembly. in other words, the right to protest. well then we will suggest seen where the excess is on the part of the old and well, you know, as the noise, you know, in future it does come in to take a bunch of the she and numbers. and that's about getting the infrastructure that's supposed to be providing security, how to be very vigilant to a single out. this advertise on to relevantly apply force to, you know, impede some of these actions on or to arrest them altogether. what we've seen
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across the african continent, however, is that police are onto their tea. and in many cases, when the situation becomes more volatile, how they fail to the estimate in king is most the reason protest. police used to your guys and what kind of the despised, even just a handful of people. and in addition to that, to be filmed, offices use the fire arms, even if you have to drive the way up on to shoot at, uh, you know, at, at whatever it is that is out there, there's got to be an existent shots, the right to live that is in the life of the opiates of themselves, sophisticated agencies and or there's ones on destruction or property or this are risk to, you know, a threat to live, especially on the part of the people that are being protected in preparation for the c fellwood cup in south africa, in 2010 police, as security forces got special training to prepare them to control the crowds of fluids and football fans that would be sent on the concert for south africa,
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which will be in motion from the boot oper, type era, if you use back, it was a learning curve. they could not afford to enjoy this in fine. so what needs to be changed to training discipline and more consequences for those who don't stick to the rules. what's clear is that the change needs to come from the top. so we've now looked of can now we've looked at like syria, what's another country that's still a very prolonged use uprising? what south africa, the fees must fall. protests took place between 2015 to 2017, almost a decade ago. at that time, students were protesting the high costs of universities. and because we wanted to find out what happens to movement when that initial wave of protest guys don't, we us, some of those for my students. the reality is that society is high for us as we begin sandals running around causing chaos. i think that the student movements get a bad rap a really,
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really bad rap because all that people see is the violence, but they don't know what has to happen in order to get to that stage. and so i'm going to visit you just lovely dealing with people want. well i don't care. you know, if it was the one to release the ins and so he now in a post these last for united way the media, we're academia itself is loading things and as full as this, you know, there's a visionary movement. and of course, the new projects that i forgot, but at the time of season i, school moved very isolated and we were treated as patriot and shoulder if you didn't understand the reality of us as opposed to slides. it's almost been a decade. the students who is meant fuels by the high cost of university fees in the sense that the education system was talked in the opposite side colonial past colonial structures with toppled under the hash tag roots, most full of the students demand that the university fees must full so the patrick
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issue on this not only accessible to reach the students funky page to accomplish this, but it will also mess with polls by police. and the university is private security . at the moment and we took the decision. so because we cause ungovernable diversity, we took over from the management, it's much harder to organize when they all private security, with rifles gliding different buildings, and as much time to organize when even during new teens piece was the cold. and for the time to shut down the campuses, put enough pressure on the universities to agree to some of the demands to be better for that than juma agreed of and called for free education. but now we need it done to state how is going to be funded. we know that transportation never came . and so it is obviously just a tactic to the mobilize us and it was very effective. 9 years down the lines,
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students with places of advocates, best universities still here losing debt supports due to outstanding debt in 2024. over 1900000 students applied for financial aid. it just feels like every single generation is going to fight. they best fight and then woke to steps forward 10 steps back and we keep advancing. we do have just an incredibly slow rate. and what did they learn from me? jersey is us. we was young. we were making things up as we went along. one of the things think that to us a made as is young people, to refuse most folks is that to do also to your m go out to our communities to involve them organize, mobilize and organize,
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and the elect members that you trust that are vetted also mobilization that is the ricky talking to the institution. your protesting, my hope is that we as young africans can revive the spirit of an african, the struggle that we can support each other. as was the case in the sixty's in the seventy's. there's a need for us to go back to our roots and to read and to nod and to speak to, i'll do. and so i'm very excited for what the future holds for young africans who are taking the power back. so reflection disappointments, but perhaps as we just had, oh, well, we've come to the end of our show, but here in kenya, the countries use a still in the midst of things will continue to bring you the latest developers. and you can also follow us on 6 talk the cost for you to and you can also find this point is the ground. thank you so much for watching. the, remind me,
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