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from ukraine's reports from the regions sizing is keeping up, as russia deploys reinforcements to the coast region. with $200000.00 russians, force from the homes of moscow still looks to be on the back foot on feel, go invalid. and this is the day the old aware of the situation in the codes or regions they issued in the necessary measures not being taken to protect your fallacy defense. ukraine is not interested in taking over the territory of the coast region on both sides. and i both work continues on resettling and providing for border residence as long as putting continues as well,
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you'll receive ukraine's response rationalizes on 1st day of work. also on the day donald trump is back on acts being interviewed by its own not a long mosque, couldn't big tech tip. the scales in the us presidential rice. i think really it's essential that that, that you one, for the go, the countries like we're having a great conversation right now. you can actually have a conversation with you. yeah. it's nice, isn't it? welcome to the day you cry and says they just don't want to permanently occupying rushes co scrimmage and after launching a major offensive into the territory. last week, ukraine says it's intention is to, for the russian attacks on its territory and to pull russian ministry resources away from the ukranian front line versus defense industries released footage of what it says, the operations against ukrainian forces operating inside the coast region close to
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the ukrainian folder on alyssa ukrainian troops that advanced up to 25 kilometers into a russian tapestry russians displaced by the fighting. and arriving in the capital bosco, most of the 130000 people have already been forced from their homes with another 60000 in the process of leaving on tuesday would be crazy and present volume is that landscape says these policies that now have seized 70 full settlements in the coast region is made. he's fully statement to yet on the offensive a my, i'm a must have been so we must make full use of our achievements. and we will, that we are paying attention to every direction of the states. defense is august and i still or frontline directionally not the don't yet screen inch for across source for ritz carlton come a tall summer, 4th cock, she's the south. okay. i'm a while special attention is being paid to the coast region and also the protection
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of all that border communities, nearby beach and the mold. the russian military presence in the border areas destroyed the close of peace and real security will be for outcomes for in the nation to solve the russian state must be held accountable for what it is um, but when it will be stolen and that will be let people know before you die, meanwhile, or bypasses on vacation from the us senate as being in case you kind of present as long as it has to be met with democratic senator richard blumenthal, the republican lindsey graham, who both pushing for more of us support. fame, craig is set as a gram, commenting on the training incursion into russia, and you're in russia bowl. and bruce, well done. i'm glad you did tell us by the end, but if you just did it and taking this florida to make him understand and pay a price is the right thing. so i'm hoping that in 2024, you'll get more military from the calendars. we're going to have
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a new president next year. i think there's a case to be made that is in our national security interest with the republican and democrat for ukraine to survive and thrive. a monk keynesian is a retired us marine connell and senior advisor at the center for strategic and international studies. welcome to the w, that's pick up on what we just had from the instagram that the u. s. had no prior knowledge of the coast operations. so did washington and moscow missed the mass and a few tre, ukrainian troops. i suspect that the united states had some knowledge and some inkling about what was going to happen. we watch these events closely and we saw that the russians would invade back in 2022 on the other hand, the ukrainians. we're keeping this very close hole. they didn't tell their commanders until just a few days before until the troops until the day before. so appraisal security was
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very tight for republican lindsey crime has been a strong back of ukraine. do you think he's an outline because of the rhetoric of the trump campaign? is it support for you? cried is likely to stop and to him. half the republicans in congress have continued to support ukraine. that there is a large number of who are had become very skeptical. they probably led by j. d van sen, vance from ohio. and we've course referred to a lot of that from trump occur, but supports recreate is still very strong on the republicans and among the democrats, except on the far left hand. i'm why do you think the ukraine has launched this incursion into russia? well, it's very plausible, but the reasons that they gave are the actual reasons that is that they wanted to
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divert a portion of forces from other parts of the front makes them defend this northern boundary. to keep in mind that well, most of the fighting over the last 2 years has been in the east the store. the boundary has been very lately defended by both sides. so this forces the russians to not just defend this incursion, but along the whole border. the attack is also a raised, the morale of ukrainian troops had been on the defensive and taking heavy casualties for many months. now they are on the attack. and it's possible that the trainings will show some bit of russian territory as a bargaining chip for the peace negotiations. when those happen and do does, does this, your crime is the western bank? cuz obviously the united states, the biggest amongst them, do they now seems to be much more casual about the idea of ukraine
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using the weapons to launch attacks into russia. there's no question that the risk tolerance of the united states in western backers is now much higher than it was a year ago, 2 years ago at the beginning of the war. you may remember that back when the war 1st became united states was concerned about sending high bars to ukraine because they could conduct deep strikes. then we were worried about a tack comes and those deep strikes. but with each increase in military aid and capability, the russians have not been able to respond. they stopped rattling their nuclear saber. so the united states in the west had been willing to be more aggressive in both what they provide and then how those materials are used. so what do you think russian retaliation is likely to look like?
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well, i don't think the russians are going to be able to retaliate in the sense of taking vengeance. they stopped rattling the loop. your sabre, as i mentioned um, but they will react militarily and we're seeing that now is they're moving military forces from other areas to this salient, this incursion to try to contain it. maybe try to push it back. you have to keep in mind that although there were fair number of forces in this area really did, it's made up of disconnected of battle groups. so there's a lot of lucidity and the russians might be able to counter attack, pushed the greetings back. so can you says this is not a permanent occupation? so how when do you think they would leave? could ask well, that's an interesting question because they might just hold onto it until the end of fighting and try to trade it for some of their own captured territory. and then
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that sense they say, you know, we're not, we don't want to permanently hold this, but we're gonna hold it for the rest of the conflict. and the other hand, it could signal that they will pull back at some point to the original border. having made their point about a russian week, this is about the ability of the ukrainians to continue a tax. i think we'll see that in the next couple of days, but so far, you couldn't seem to be digging in, holding on, not making preparations to pull back. less than that. let's say russia stuff. it's something like $180000.00 casualties and it's offensive in the don't boss this year . since january rushes estimated to have captured about the same amount of territory as u. k, as ukraine has in a week in cost. is this what people mean when they talk about a symmetric wall as well? this is a really a symmetric in the sense that the attack by the ukrainians is made with
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conventional forces. it is aimed at a weak point and the russian defense is this is a classic tactic. in a warfare we've been seeing a debt for millennium, but it is a classic maneuver and it is very creative. one place we have seen actual a symmetric warfare is in the bay for in the baltic. that is, that ukraine has been able to push the russian navy back out of crimea back to the eastern side of the black sea, even though it has no ships. and no naval aircraft, it's been able to do this with long range missiles and drones. that's truly a symmetric control, because then thanks for joining us. that kind of mocker kenzie from the center for strategic and international studies. thanks for having me on the show.
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ukraine. surprise attack has caused the russian president vladimir putin and military and political embarrassment. ordinary russians have also been taking it back by the crating and offensive russian state media of putting a positive spin on events. but families of front line troops becoming increasingly dismayed. this is how russian states media presents you cries, incursions from this. i see russia will not negotiate with those until civilian city destroyed, civil infrastructure, and attack nuclear power facility. use them, you know, during that and that'll get you in the evening news program on state television claims. tv reporters help rescue locals from a village in the course region. the loan number is reports show a large successful hits on the crane an army. well enough that i was really sure to
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do, but please. but investigative journalists have already challenged the claims. some of the russian defense ministers videos reportedly contain old footage that wasn't even filmed on russian territory, but a new crane what russian t v, viewers don't see. this video from the 1st days of the incursion is believe to show ukraine and forces capturing russian soldiers among them. cons rentals to see if the russians unit along the border consisted mostly of poorly trained conscript soldiers. and experts say that is part of the reason why your crane's incursion was possible. the conscripts mother started an online petition, demanding president, but human fortune to remove all conscripts from the border region. they have no military experience and no weapons spare the lives of soldiers who are not prepared for military action. the military's reliance on con scripts did not come as
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a surprise for many analysts. maybe so nobody promised they wouldn't take part in any military duties and they were promised they wouldn't be deployed in the so called special military operational 4 course. what isn't the states of it and to least officially find today? the ukraine and incursion that has brought process war closer to people inside russia? according to local authorities, tens of thousands of civilians have successfully been evacuated from boarder regence. these videos published by russia emergency ministry show temporary shelters build for civilians. very good. that is good for. they brought the some close. this changing to josh video shared on social media platforms show a different story why they want to show you how they told us to come here for the operation with the to know we are sending to you about their voices will not make
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russians. dave to receive any news because even the dw is eastern europe, eddie said roman comes around and kind of has more now on how ukraine's coast defensive is being viewed inside russia as well. yes. well, things are still developing and i think it takes sometimes for most rushing to digest what is really happening. especially if we take into consideration that they're asking us, salters, i've tried to downplay the fact i'm still trying to downplay it. um, we don't have scientific data on this um, there are no, no pulse on the incursion of the ukrainian army, but a so we can speculate at the moment, but it is really a big thing, a psychologically, as you've just mentioned, because it's really for the 1st time for decades that russia has been attacked by a neighboring state. um uh well russians,
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so to say that to great is not the state so, so i'm a part of the soviet union, but still it has been a silver instead of just do a southern state for most of the world. so the effect is there and, um, it depends on where you live in russia, if a lives closer to the border where things are happening now in, in, uh, west and on southern regions of rush, i think the effect is much more. um, um, um it is my stronger so um people see all those more than a 100000 dis tac toe refugees the this is the 1st time roughly is having this on such a scale. um and of course you can, how do you compare it to credit where millions have to fly out of the country off to the russian invasion, but still it has an enormous effect on the russian psych and i think it will take some more time for. ready to let it sink in, because because it's such a huge thing happen. so tons of adults coming to us collections and for the president, donald trump has made a high profile returned to twitter or exit. it's now no. it was
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a live chat hosted by the social media platforms and trump support. you know, most the audio conversation was delayed by more than 40 minutes because of technical issues of age masks that had been caused by a massive cyber attack. when it finally did stop, the 2 men spoke for 2 hours on a range of to topics, including the attempt on mr. trump slice of labor relations and immigration. joseph full and the republican presidential nominee took a series of slides. and these democratic arrival come iris. that we cannot have a democrat, we cannot have her. she's in confidence. she's as bad as bided in a different. yeah, she hasn't done an interview since this home. a scam started and, and say what you want. this is a cool. this was a cool of a president of the united states. he didn't want to leave any grand master trouble . uh, frankly, with, with a comma administration. and that's my honest opinion. and i think,
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i think really it's essential that that to you, when they go to countries like we're having a great conversation right now to model wouldn't have this conversations you can because there's not, no, i know she's not a smart person by the way. she can have this conversation because apparently it's a really big point. you can actually have a conversation with you. yeah, it's nice, isn't it? well, i think of having a good time. let's go through this with jonathan niagara, who is a professor of politics at new york university. welcome to the w professor. why he did donald trump doing surrounding me that it's free advertising? is there a simple answer as to why any politician is on a social media platform? they're not paying money and they're reaching people. and this was a case where he could reach people and be interviewed by someone who as we just on the clip, was very sympathetic to him. so that the why is, is simply to reach people this, this is more free advertising. and a 1000000 people isn't that many people in the sense that like when he's,
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he's done things on youtube that have reached far larger audiences. and this is a very interesting thing. he. he reached a 1000000 people, but it, it's, that's not nearly his biggest audience. and it hasn't generated a lot of secondary coverage. you don't see the rest of media full of the content of this interview. so it's not as if other than those 1000000 people who, who bothered to turn in. and we don't really know what's a 1000000. he almost said it was a 1000000 to the 1000000 people really to an end for 2 hours. i don't think any of us think that happened. that's an awful lot of patients. but so it's free advertising, right. and so is it too early to tell who besides the media was actually paying attention to this? it is too early to tell. i mean, we, we, unfortunately, one of the things that happened when he on most bought twitter is he made it much harder for everyone else to find out what was going on on twitter used to be the
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twitter is very open. a lot of academics and scholars did research on twitter to find out, okay, what is happening on twitter? how many people are sharing comments about this video? how many people are going on twitter to say, hey, i saw this, i saw 30 minutes of this, this discussion and i didn't like it, or i did like it. that's not something and it's, it's easy for us to find out anymore. and so we may never know, you know, what, what did this really do? i'm gonna tell you another clip, but here's the republican nominee for president of the united states praising the leaders of russia, north korea, and china. i know poor and i know presidency. i know kim john good if not for i know every one of us and let me tell you people say, oh, this is terrible. he said, i'm not saying anything good or bad. they're at the top of the game. they're tough, they're smart, vicious, and they're going to protect their country, whether they love their country, they probably do. it's just a different form of love, but they're going to protect their country. but the tough people at the top of the
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game 1st uh, neglect from uh, new university doesn't matter to the old important swing state undecideds the donald trump's public statement. so often fairly make sense. i. i think it does. uh, i think the, the interesting thing is whether or not those people here and of those statements and whether or not the media bothered to comment on how little they make sense. like for instance, the statements he just made. uh, he may well think that the leaders of foreign governments are tough and smart and there may be true is the other things. he says that, that the media seems to not necessarily pick up on so much. all the things he says that are clearly false. all the things he says that suggests that maybe he's a very old man with poor memory. now that there's a recent incident where he talked about being and a helicopter that almost went down with willie brown. no,
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no anyone. contin misremember incidence that happened a long time ago. but to me that we just went through the whole buying adventure of, of voters essentially deciding, hey, he is too old from, you know, display as incident slightly such as such as that one where it looks like wait a minute. maybe this is really an old man in voters should be thinking about that. it was interesting in, in, in the video that he posted on twitter. there's a lot of footage of him and is much younger days. and it may well be that the campaign has decided that they need to emphasize a different, a different version of trump to people. but, but i think it does hurt with swing voters when they see that this is someone who was saying things that simply simply don't make sense. and that's a little bit i think of what, what the details with, you know, the democrats favorite new word of calling and we're and how does a long mosque benefit from hosting basically event and being so open the parties on
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so most role in is, is quite dangerous, and this gets to again the, the, the way twitter has, has, has changed since he took it over. um, he controls the platform. he decides how the algorithm on it works. what gets amplified and what doesn't. and that's quite quite scary because imagine that he decides, well, nothing that's positive about kamala harris will gain any traction on twitter. and only things that are negative about her. well, that means someone on twitter, not really knowing what's behind what they see, not, not knowing what's in that algorithm because it's a black box. they could go on twitter and see nothing but negative things about harris. um, and they might infer, oh no one likes hairs. no one has anything to say about harris. when in fact, this is simply you on most hiding the positive information. so i think we're in a very dangerous world where one person has complete control of the algorithm that
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is showing what a set of people see. and when he gets out of this is mysterious in, in, in his purchase of twitter. and he, he bought it, he took away a lot of its, its functionality for people. and the only thing he seems to be getting rid of this is, maybe there's some ego gratification. and there's the amplification of his political views. i mean, i think he sees this as his way to have a very large bullhorn. it's his own little bully pulpit. right. so in a minute, do we think we've had like this, ben, just picking up on what you said that does not strengthen the calls for more social media regulation, or is it simply a pure expression, a 1st amendment rights to free speech? i think it it, and it shows that the need for transparency on social media. um i, i don't think anyone ever and vision 1st amendment right to free speech is one
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person controlling the amount of speech that other people see and them not knowing it. again, that's what's dangerous about algorithm to control the people on the platform. don't know why they are seeing what they are seeing. so i think it's certainly is, is very strong argument for why we want transparency in the platforms, symbolism to tell us. okay, we are a private company, twitter, or, or ex, now is a private company. and by the way, we're just not going to let any um speech that is pro harris. circulate. okay, that that's free speech. but it's a different world if you say, well, we're a private firm and we're just it. but we control is this huge media apparatus. and we're not going to tell anybody what's happening behind the curtain. that's a very dangerous whirl and that, and that's a world where i think regulation could play a big role without curtailing free speech, but making it much more open and transparent speech. giving us much to think about
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