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addiction officials say the big disagreements remain. so far diplomatic efforts have failed to put an end to 10 months of finding. now international mediators say it's time for israel and almost to strike a deal. but it los hasn't send representatives to the talks. it's chief negotiator, was assassinated in iran just over 2 weeks ago. washington is this, an agreement can be reached and not a minute too soon. according to a mazda, the ongoing warren gaza, has now killed over 40000 people on nicole for ocean berlin. and this is the day the i or both parties to agree to an immediate cease i at the, in the house on the test. if there is a ceasefire agreement, i see is nothing more than the provision of the agreement, a temporary troops. what we're focusing on now is that the talks are focusing on is
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working on the details of the implementation. we need another positive experience. hostages to get released. the. 5 that hospice data and not wise via to consume me also on the day frame says its troops are still on the offensive in the russian region. of course, of course, in the policy of scheme general says he reported on the completion of the liberation of the town of sorts from the russian military, r ukrainian ministry come with guns. officers being established that several of the assessments have also been liberated in total federal already more than 80 of them . how long said b as in use addition, boucher. welcome to the show. it's great to have you with us. we start in guitar, we're fresh talks of kicked off, seeking a ceasefire for hostages deal and gaza, possible agreement, a scene not only as
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a way to end the brutal finding of the strip and bring the dozens of of duct. it is rarely as home as also consider the best and possibly only hope of heading off and even larger regional conflicts. the talks come as the most run health industry says the palestinian death toll from the israel have lost more has surpassed $40000.00, a mouse, which sparked the war with his october 7th terror. attacked on israel as assign it to sit out the negotiations. but they say they will await proposals from israel, which is participating. the region is on edge as israel, a way to retaliation from iran after the killing of her mazda is a political leader, is male hernida entire on of us state department spokes person offered an update assessment of the negotiations and said they're now focused on a few areas of disagreement between the 2 sides. this is uh, it is an important step. as we've said that in the lead up to this meeting there,
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we have already narrowed some gaps. and the focus now is on some of the more specific implementation and specific issues as it relates to the agreement. there of course is a lot of work that remains ahead. this is a complex situation and a complex agreement, but the work is so important and we're very pleased that these this process has, has as taken place. again, let's take a closer look at these negotiations with middle east experts down here get off. daniel, we've seen so many rounds of negotiations since october, but very little movements since november when that group of hostages was, was released and exchanged for a group of palestinian prisoners. where do things stand right now? well, over the last couple of months, things have become more and more complicated. and at the same time, which is probably a bit ironic, the americans have become more and more optimistic in their communication every time around as negotiation fails,
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a new one started. so we have to look at the cost at the us communication strategy in order to understand what is really at stake. it is true, the americans are trying to use these hostage negotiations, these cause and negotiations to prevent a reasonable. but they also trying of course, by creating this like optimistic scenarios. whitehouse those books person, john kirby just said, i think today we're just talking about the implementation of the details, which is quite interesting. you know, it's, it's not a question of the agree. oh no, it is just about the details that may be far from the truth. yeah, it probably is, but it creates pressure. and then he said something else, which is very interesting. uh, i believe. and that's what the us said in the last couple of weeks repeatedly that israel did not achieve the goal of destroying and disabling, let's say, homeless as a military force and gaza. and so the american said, you will not achieve this goal. so be reasonable, you know, and negotiate now john kirby said,
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israel has almost achieve everything he wanted in order to just to say give a face, saving exit for the net on you all government just say you have one, you have a cheese. what you wanted. now signed the deal, and that is interesting. i think we have to really read carefully. it's all about the margins of interpretation and that's also what the guitar e partners are doing. the, the reading is, are going to tell the missouri is trying to protect these negotiations with 3 or 4 days. so basically we're going to attack. so the guitars have to say, look, them in up projecting, and we're really working on the deal. so you, this is, this is the role of the negotiators and as gruesome as the, as the news our every day that we hear, i think this is a very interesting type of international conflict diplomacy. all that said, what does off to a good start and mean as well. in fact, that you remember last may we, we, we talked about the biden plan when uh by and said, well this is basically, it is really a proposal. and we think that if these are, these have already agreed to that then that then you all said no, no,
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we did not. it's not our plan. then they would act as a sions that these are, these had tried to push in other demands, for example, a continuous military presence of israel and to different core doors in the gaza strip. these are as the night that they said like, well we, we did not invent this, we didn't come up with this a new, it was something that was already suggested, but maybe it was not outlined in detail in the plan. so it's about the words. but let's say a good start is that negotiations are still happening and that the parties believe that a deal a binding deal is necessary. because of course, you can tell it and you can say, but nothing ya is not interested in a deal that's. he's been accused of that many times that he just like wants to protect the situation on and on and on until he achieves the military victory and stays in power. of course, on the other side. yeah. from us we're not interested in an initial deal. now. they're saying we're not going to be going even to, to have, because we remain committed and faithful to the deal that was suggested in may. keep in mind the head of how much the political head of from us was assassinated by
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these relays into, into iran, and the most radical and most uncompromising person that hum us ever had. yeah, yes. and was, is no charge actually at the home and still on my says, we remain committed to the deal that we have agreed to and, and it may, the radians have always said, we will take revenge. what happened in tehran, regardless of any, like, you know, political arrangements, but now they're messaging at the same time. if the americans achieve a cease fire in and gaza, then we will probably postpone or even probably cancel our revenge. and that is very interesting because we really is now for the 1st time or a very rare moment are giving the united states the constructive diplomatic role in the region. they call the americans the big devil, but at the same time they giving them a diplomatic real and that is good news. i think the problem is the americans really have to deliver because they have created a lot of expectations if they don't deliver. now we will see a major war in the middle east in a few days. so there are so many sources of pressure at this moment. the threat of
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a major regional war, the, the pressure inside israel to get the hostages released, but also the, the number of victims that keeps growing and growing in gaza. civilians that are killed as part of this military operation on both sides. how much longer can the warring factions withstand this kind of pressure? well we see that the, the net then, you know, government can sustain the pressure for a long time. it was not intimidated. it was not even uh, lets say compressed by whatever criticism and let's be honest. the criticism was, came from the united states from every now and then. but in fact the united states just signed a major or lisa major arms deal. congress still has to approve, but i don't see it. i don't see any. and don't think there's a problem there. about 20000000000, mainly a 5 digits delivered to israel. so the americans, of course, verbally issued some, you know, critical statements, but at the same time always made it pretty clear. we're going to support israel if
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and major conflict with around the ropes. now you see everyone has, has a lot to lose in this conflict. is real and particularly the civilians, the society, they're tired of this war and they just cannot afford another war. look at the palestinians. there's no safety for the palestinians. all like they are not even in the situation to decide about their own future. how much is to a certain extent, but certainly not the palestinian population. that's why the, into the community needs to speak on their behalf. you're talking about other conflicts, other players, like as well on lebanon, know you're on, of course they want to take revenge. and of course they want to show that they have a force of the turns. but at the same time, they have a lot to lose hezbollah. is it is 11 east party, it has power, it has money, and it has a lot to lose. if you have power and money, you have to live in the stuff to lose. so you, you, you, what careful about risk and, and the same is true for the vein ever seen that has other idea of political interest that go beyond the, the, is really published in, in conflict. and that's we have to see the, the interest of the players, and we have to take them seriously. and then i think that's what the duty of
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diplomacy is. i'll have to let you go, yes or no answer. well, we have a deal at the end of these discussions. i think we will, but i don't know how long these discussions take, and that's the major issue. how long can you still convinced you have decided that you are serious? you want to have a deal, but you still need time. that's the most difficult part with the negotiators. cautiously optimistic, daniel. get us middle east. i'm going. thank you so much. to great, now we're a top commander, alexander sir skis, says keith has set up a military office in russia's kursk region while it's forces are continuing to advance the claims ukraine is in control of dozens of settlements, spanning more than 1100 square kilometers of russian territory. gives us its plans to use the occupied area as a strategic buffer zone to protect its border region from russian attacks. in the past 10 days, a crane has carried out the biggest attack on russian soil. since the 2nd world war
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. the green launched its incursion into russia from the border region, assuming which says directly across from the curse region, are responded and economy sent us this update from their to this is way ukraine's incursion to rush up again, just over with you as why i'm standing here is still ukraine territory behind me, you can see the destroyed border post and 10 kilometers down the road is the russian town a subject. where if social media videos and to be believed, the great new flag is already fine. for now its capacity quite here. we can hear a 35 in the distance evacuated ukrainian residents of the villages along this border. i have told us that whereas before they had over the past 2 years had rushing on to the request and drones just on this other side of the border, attacking them. now, those russian boots on the ground to being replaced by russian plains in the sky, armed with very dangerous club dumps on the road we've just driven here from assuming we saw calculus, ukrainian mitre vehicles or bearing that very characteristic triangle mocking. that
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has been the characteristic of this incursion into russia, and we saw lots of ambulance, isn't that famines is coming from russia back into ukraine health territory in the other direction. it's hard to get a sense of what's actually happening on the ground in cost region. russian that your blog as in russian civilians and social media have been posting less and less . and you bringing sol just to that part of being told not speak to the press, especially not on camera. but you can please have increasingly being open about what they've time to do here. there's been talk about humanitarian corridors for russians. 2 civilians left behind and coast regions to either get back to russian hill territory or simply hit into ukrainian hills attempting to ukraine proper. and those are being took all of creating that tree or 30 some kind of body that will govern the lives of those russian civilians left behind in the ukraine and control bought the coast region as our struggles to come up with a response to this incursions across region, ukraine shows no sign of a plan to bring its troops back over. this pulled up back out of rush it into
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ukraine to join. now by make ryan, he's a retired, major general and the australian army. his latest book came out this week and the war for ukraine strategy and adaptation under fire. he looks at what shape ukrainian and russian strategy leading off to the war and how both sides have adapted their tactics, organizations, operational approaches and strategic foundations throughout the conflict. welcome to the day and mr. ryan is great to have you on the show that whatever ukraine is trying to achieve with the curse offensive, what does it mean for the status quote of the war? but thank you. it's great to be with you. i think what your crime has tried to do and probably hesitate to use. it has actually changed a status crowd. ready for a lot of people by seeing you crying and beyond, the whole had drifted into somewhat, not quite a style night, but it wasn't moving quickly, the prime kind of full the forever. and he wants to get this well right. but he wants to bait the russians, and this is the big swings in an attempt to change as that as possible. how risky
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is this maneuver? because of course, they've moved equipment and truths from elsewhere in the ukraine. and what are the potential gains for your printer? well, by size at the moment in some peril. ukrainians in the don't best particularly on the quote cross front uh, really pricing a dangerous defensive campaign. they were, the russians are advancing. but they are making progress in coast and the other side. the russians are in a very dangerous position in curtis balls taking ground in the dorm best. what we will see at some point is one, so i will blank one. so i will to saw. i cannot take the time, but it is bearing at one point of the battlefield. animal has to be shot. the innocent face of the deal was a defensive battle. what side do you think will blank 1st you've watched this conflict unfold for the past 2 years to hello and one of those things about wars.
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you just come predict what will happen and even having watched it very closely, i don't think anyone can predict with any bright accuracy which. so i will blink 1st. i certainly hope it's the ukrainians, and the russians appear to be a much bigger troubles of ukrainians are at this point in time. the kinds of saves them. i mean, to me, in the small, why do you think you ran was able to save the momentum and grab russian territory so quickly and seemingly without great difficulty. but what they've done is being able to develop and implement a deception plain as like a smoke just on the russians. but a lot of people in the west who are watching the sky. ready as so we didn't say the preparations for the so things that i think most of us thought that the price would be doing major fences. next, you know, the see. so that being able to very successfully concentrate a false false to saving the russians a bad the crating of patients. and most importantly, that was able to achieve surprise,
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which in the bottom world is very difficult today. what does the curse offensive tell you about the ability of the ukrainian forces to adapt to changing situations? as hello, tells this bible into lots from day 20. 23 file camera faces lots and lots of ways out. first and foremost, the use of experience formation. seeing visa things is waivers in the 2023 can or can they use a lot of grain for guides, but also just talking about the text, the russians when they wake rather than without was strongly 2023 then level. so use a lot of valid cutting warfare and 8 the same sets. it says tom, thank you, can have lost you said glen to last. i've adapted seems 2023 and that is causing the russian. ready a lot of problems, let's talk about the russians and how they have adapted because in ballpark figure is ukraine has now sees in the past week, roughly the same amount of russian territory as russia has in ukraine since the
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start of the year. and in that time, you recently wrote russia suffered over a 180000 casualties. what do you read into that about russia's ability to learn and adapt to a changing battlefield and maybe even a changing opponent. russians have certainly learned and adapted since the beginning of the war, and one of the right of patients is to simply just try soldiers at the problem. they may, tactics has an adaptation since the beginning of a war. that's what i'm used to when things in the dorm best. it's what by continuing to do in that on that's the real question is, how long can russia continue to throw away so many lives full, such small events as no one really has a good answer to that question at this point in time. now that this offensive has, with, in russia, of course, cause much nervousness and people have been displaced for the 1st time since the start of this war with in russia. how big
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a factor do you think that is to but what some of the designs have in a sense of what this offensive seemed to animate territory, a design to cause panic amongst by soldiers and civilians. and both of those anything have an impact on the political system that was already pressure. i'm fixing to do something about this is clearly not being able to do that just yet. so surprise, shock, action, and these kind of offensive saying the rapid movement that the cranes are cheating up as owing to cause these kind of kind of give me and i mean, and you're one of arguably many military analysts following this war very closely. i'd like to know how much this war and maybe even, you know, the twist that we've seen in the past couple of days changed your perception of modern warfare. but there's not a lot of new things that are occurring in this war. i think things like unprepared systems and the machine knows different senses is probably i knew what development,
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but there's a lot of all things that we've seen in this was the communities from previous conflicts, whether it's the use of i'm or all 5 to have. but most importantly, what we're as a human endeavor in a request book leadership from good people. and we've seen that from the ukrainians as mcbrian author of the war for ukraine, a strategy and adaptation under fire. such a pleasure to get your insights and speak to you today. thank you. thank you. it's great to talk to you. of the world health organization has declared a global public health emergency over an outbreak of a new strain of the impacts virus in africa. the virus was formerly known as monkey pox and can be passed on through close contacts. it causes flu like symptoms and lesions on the body and can be deadly. it's now been detected in at least 13 african countries and sweden at the democratic republic of congo has been head
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particularly hard. okay. confession, it is a science journalist and molecular biologist who joins me from washington and welcome to the w. and can you tell us more about this latest version in fox cases? how is this outbreak related to the one we saw 2 years ago? a yeah, that's a great question. and i think it needs a little bit of context. so let me try and go back a little bit. maybe we've seen outbreaks of m cox in africa for more than 50 years . so i basically outbreaks in central africa and then in western africa and over time, these have become bigger. this become more frequent. and what we saw in 2022 was that one of these viruses, specifically one of the linear just k to be made it from nigeria into kind of to the global sexual networks of manual sex with men. and it just spread really fast in this group. effected mostly this group,
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and then over time because of explanation because of unity after inspection and because of behavior change, the dis, this kind of global search died down again. but the situation in africa didn't really change, and they're still, we're still seeing this slow increase over time and cases. and what we're seeing now is that another lineage which is one p in central africa in the democratic republic of congo, has just kind of jumped into another section network. so we've had reports in 2023 already that in coming to the mining town, we've seen outbreaks and sex workers. and so we're seeing again this kind of driven by sexual transmission in this group. but then we're also just seeing the background of all of these played one cases that we see in the d r. c. increase over time anyway. and so you can think of the, the outbreak in 2022 as a kind of, you know, a little side fire that will start to buy
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a spark from what is essentially an ongoing situation and a half. because then we just haven't really attended to over the last years. what makes this new strain so dangerous? so we don't know if this is a really crucial point. i think we really don't know whether this new strain is more dangerous than the strain that we've seen before. and the reason we don't know is very simply that whenever you see a virus act a certain way in a population, you don't know whether that's because the virus is a certain way or whether that has to do with how the, how the population reacts to it. right, and so we've seen in the past the displayed one virus in the democratic republic of congo leads to most of your cases it needs to more test. but is that because the virus is more dangerous, or is that possibly because in that particular setting, with the, with the health care system being the way it is with co morbidities with measles, chicken pox, you know, a chevy infections being the way they are. is it possible that it has more to do
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with, with fast than the virus itself we, we just don't know that. and so we really have to be patient. one of the hopes in this situation is that now in the next weeks and months, we will get more clarity on whether we really have to be more concerned about this virus then about, you know, previous versions of it. but yeah, which have a you know, whatever the answer is, key of you, there is an ongoing situation that is worried. yeah. there is a lot at this point that we don't know. and that kind of reminds of, i bet you as well, of a situation not too long ago, where there was a virus making their rounds a global pandemic. there was a lot of uncertainty. what has the cobit 19 pandemic taught us? that could maybe help keep this outbreak of bay a yeah, i think the number one thing is what you just said. it's that there are a lot of, you know, question mark that i'm starting to use in the beginning. and we really have to push to, to get certain t on them, but then we also have to act really decisively even while they're also question
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mark. and i think, you know, the fact that the w t o declared, there's a public health emergency of international concern yesterday. you know, fairly quickly and decisively, i think, is a good sign. because i think that is something we should have done from the pandemic that we need to get ahead of this. we shouldn't wait until that a spread. so a lot of other countries we should try. and the other thing, the biggest thing we should have learned from depend, demik is an extra teen matters. it matters, you know, that people in africa have these like things available and not as it has historically traditionally been. and as it was in 20 to 22, that these axioms are, you know, given out in the global north and in the global south where most of the burden of this diseases, there's barely any vaccine available. and i think this, that this declaration really needs to be a push to change that as science journalists, geico freshman, great speaking to you. thank you so much. i. and finally italy's mount. etna is a rough thing as an experience, as a particularly high level of activity. the eruption shot ash and smoke into the air
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