or the, you're watching the don't we can use live from building voting has just closed into 2. i'm in state elections that could see a blank, 3 full, the fire rise. the alternative fit you in many states and make a big gains at the expense of mainstream policies that could become the biggest policy in one of the states. the hello and welcome to the program. i'm jared read. vote counting is on the way into

german sty collections way the far right. he's hoping to make the guidance. we're expecting the 1st exit polling results shortly. and we'll bring those to you when we get them. both has went to the polls in the eastern states of to ring g a n sacks and eat with the far right alternative for germany or a, if the state to make an impact that could also affect german national politics. the i f d is an antique immigrant potty, that opposes the german government funding of military id for ukraine. another policy, the sotheby's and minister line. so b, s. w is a left we populous party and these competing and elections for the 1st time since it was formed at the beginning of this year. it could also, it might gains by taking votes from mainstream parties. and i'm joining us to do it by richard walker, who was out chief international edits, a reach of good to see you at regional elections into i mean, they don't usually catch the attention of the well,

but it is very different this time isn't until yeah, that's why, jerry? so this is really going to be a, the latest test of the power of populace parties, disruptive port police policies in germany to challenge the political establishment . and this is both on the far right and on the fall left, the parties that you just mentioned in the introduction to do background to this is really the gemini is going through a really politically very full period. right now there is a federal government here in berlin. that is very unpopular. it's very divided. it is struggling to deal with a huge host of problems. we've got, you know, process, boar and ukraine. we've got the inflation shock of the past few years. questions about whether germany's whole economic model is really still viable now. illegal immigration to a whole set of issues that it hope helping to kind of fuel the populace backlash. we already saw this in the summer. some views may remember, so we've had your appeal elections here and you are the a f d. the far right policy came in 2nd place in those elections. and now the 2 states

where these elections are being held today. of the states of the range and saxony, those estates where the, the, the far right, a if the but also the far left have been very strong and recent years. so this is the kind of relates is test. and it's possible if you would just saying that the, the a f d on the far right could land a big wind in this stage of the ranger and is net connect for the 1st place. we think in the state of saxony as well. so the 50 could be coming out of this was significant gains, but also this far left parties that you mentioned that which is a new parties early emerged in the last few months, could also be making, making significant gains rich and stay with us. because we do have some exit polling to bring to you now the file rise had been to, to achieve its best. if a state election resulting through india, we can take a look now at the official exit poll numbers to see how it's played out there. and that's exactly what's happened the far right and taking the grass and alternative

to germany has made massive gains. it has 13.5 percent. the lift potty that's being leading serenity as friends. all minority government is on 12.5 percent a big loss since the last regional vice. back in 201915 to rise. christian democrats looks it to be the 2nd biggest positive day with $24.00 and a half percent. and there's been a bad showing for the 3 parties that make up germany's federal coalition. government johnson, the whole of salts as potty, to send to lift. s p d has 7 percent. he's putting his in the national coalition. the greens have full percent and the f t p as 1.3 percent. the new populace potty the b s. w oldest. solved by volume can instill lines, has made a very strong diag you with the 16 percent of device we can close now to our chief political correspondent, nina has a t as in the thought, which is the capital of the regional state of to re india. nina,

you're in front of a restaurant where the i sd is amazing today. this is a projected waiting for the file, right. it would be the 1st time that a file right party has the most states in a jam inside parliament since the 2nd world war. just explained to our international view is how big of a political earthquake is these are well, jarrett, this is the polls are correct, is a watershed moment of the germany's national political landscape. that is why we're covering it so intensively because this goes beyond the 5000000. also voters who have cost the ballots today. and the loud rounds of 2 is behind me in this restaurant where the a, if these a lead candidates beyond her to is celebrating his victory to night, together with some 150 supporters. now we were not allowed in this is because the a, if the initially restricted access to a couple of done lists,

they then took the if the, to quote, the court ruled in favor of the gen list and then be a fee, turn this into a private event so i could only hear this from the outside, but definitely they smocks a was a set moment in the sense that uh will have choice in berlin and his government government coalition is being put on the even more pressure. now his politics has been very unpopular, especially here in this region. his fans duns, by ukraine's side, when it comes to rest, as well as against the ukraine. that is something that a lot of voters are not happy with. not just a of the voters incidentally, also of people who have now gone for a completely new party. so this is shaking up germany's political landscape, the traditional democratic policies that we've known for decades. the, the, with the exception of the conservative cd you are looking very, very bad tonight. indeed, nina, just remind us, what does the,

if the stand for it and just why has it become solely popular of the way they were founded 11 years ago as a euro skeptic policy. so that was against the background of the global financial crisis, where they said germany needed to regain its suffering t. and over the years, they have radicalized themselves and behind that push to radicalize themselves walls that mind who's now the lead candidates here into the range of young harker, who a court has said, can officially be called a faxes. he is a history, a former history teacher who has used nazi slogans in the past and claims that he doesn't know that they would not see slogans. his chapter of the a is the, is indeed very anti immigration. they play on people's fee is, is very russia friendly. it is something that has shaped the national debate as well. so his check, so winning here tonight sends out

a big message is that the political landscape overall is going to change significantly over the next couple of years. and then it just explained to us the so those watching him might not completely understand german politics. the i f t has come out on top in these elections, but does that mean that they will be able to govern? oh no, it does. no. its uh, because so far we've got some things that we call the firewall. politicians have called it the so called firewall in place where they said we are not getting you to go into a coalition and government together with a party that intelligence services label as um, definitely right wing extremist. so, so far that has held. now this is of course being questioned by an increasing amount of people who are watching the policy grow. so many people are now saying we need a more pragmatic approach, and these are voices that are also coming from the conservatives. so it is the big

question tonight. just how family the conservative. so i'm go, i'm eccles policy. i mean on the macro has pull out of active politics. but what is the conservative cd you policy going to do? they came 2nd. all they all coming 2nd and we can believe those polls and they could also form a government against the a f d. but that would require a lot of thinking. they would have to go together with the other populous party, which is that b as w movement. now they may agree on some migration issues. but other than that, they, some new movement comes from the fall left. so that would be a very, very big hurdle to jump over for the cd you, which is why it tonight is not clear just where they are going to start. they're going to have to have some very serious talking. that's all chief political correspondent. nina has a in syringe. you need a thanks to lots of that to let's go with the 2 sacks the now and get the full cost results from the way exit. polls are indicating

a slight lead for the conservative christian democrats will see to you right now. the c d. u is governing in a coalition with the greens and the sand to lift social democrats. the now predictions have put the cd you on track to wind just only about 31 percent of the vote. they followed just behind by the fall, right? i, if the we the round their c as in. now the new come a, b as w solve. the bottom condensed alliance is in 3rd place, taking some 12 percent of those votes. chancellor, old ourselves as social democrats, b s p d r in 4th with ice and a half percent followed by the greens we've just play the 5 percent of the votes. all chief political edits of mckayla cousin that is in a saxon, these capital interest and she's at the conservative christian democrats, a gathering there at the saxons type parliament mikaela the cd. you have, according to these 1st projections, a slightly to $31.00 and

a half percent coming in 2nd at the far right. a, if the how the cd you reacting to these initial numbers? well, there's a great sense of relief in kentucky. i'm ackles policyholders here and on the active the see themselves as the dragon slayer in the sense that they can successfully hold the far right dominate, which can be referred to as the extreme right according to them. and then in this stage, when it to the next to the city, you see this self is the one policy back to the oxy, told them at the base. so that is a huge political success for them as these very are the exit. polls also suggest that not that terribly, mux might be changing here at the state level, but the night will tell whether that cold weather and richard expense from the can service. you can continue with his government with the social democrats will

not sold to return sold. i've sold his partner on the green release that they even made it into the regional olive into the national. see this? yes. i'm sorry, keep going. i'm sorry for interrupting at the same time. nasty. this is the subject to the political system of central policies. you see the 2 out of 3 of policies that count the make out. the government's not making it into the regional parliament is says read. yes. so we can social democrats significantly. we can dreams here and the free democrat. so we, so how do you determine finance and this is from the food democrats. they don't pieces of the, as their own digits on the holding radar here today because they got so 2 votes.

the good news is that there was a huge turn out. it was above 70 run, 74 percent. that's quite something here. so it's the state that is the image size and it's a subset of the system in by the end for. so let's talk a little bit more about the i f t you, you've explained how this cd you seem to have just managed to just put the ac. yeah . that i just the i sd according to these initial print, the exit polls goes around the cheapest thing. what do you make of this particular showing for the eye of the day? well, it shows that the ac is not just you to stay. it is a huge political driving force now because in terms of sarah, both the task force it takes to drive a political agenda on the neighboring the ring. yeah. the natural way of looking at

2 forms of code, this would normally be to see if he wants to go into a cold list of ways, but everybody's excluded that they will do so. so the 2nd runner up, we'll now potentially be in that position. so be a, if the community is tapping into resentments into frustration and into migration concerns here in eastern states where there are a lot fewer people with a migratory background as and in most other states, particularly in the west, the victory of the conservative seed you here is a very personal victory. for the same time, you have a customer who is actually even on posters of the opposition. say as we want to get rid of him on to someone who is critical of ukraine assistance. and he's a solitary figure. the thing that even within his own himself to use. so this is an

exception to the political landscape, but it's the day that proves that the far right is the past day. a lot more difficult. cloud feels out in the for the school debate, but not in the policy making it to national. now mikaela, another party that is, is skeptical of ukraine assistance, is the solve of ok and connects alliance. now this policy was formed at the beginning of the it's, it's got around 12 percent of the votes, according to 1st predictions. how was such a new com, a policy able to perform well today? because the set of access it is that of access is an individual costs as he was, is eating figure out of the left coffee shoes, the popular within the field of voters. and that's also what we see here, that c minus to track the last from the left box to also attract people from the

rights for the right end of the spectrum, 5 stores on t migration. so this is quite a unique set up in terms of policy and on is very much how a lot of people here in the field going into way up into the double digits in for instance, the that is quite something. and that proves that she's very much in tune with the sentiment particularly into the ring. going to be that you might find yourself in a coalition sax me because it depends on whether the left toss makes it into the range. so call that is, it depends on quite a few other results finding up or not, where the, this current code as to time continue under the leadership of the consumptive cpu. nbc. thank you so much for spelling that out for us. that's out. chief political

editor may kind of because now in dresden for us and to talk about the why the implications of bass died. elections on back in the to do with richard walker out chase international editor, richard. nina and mckayla were explaining, talking about this kind of real political fragmentation that we're seeing today. what is the stay more broadly about the state of german politics? do you think? well yeah, i mean, i think there are lots of kind of different lessons to be learned from. these are the results and of course they're still coming in. so they could, they could be some shifting around by the end of the day in quite important areas, for instance, infection. the way we just saw miss shayla that it seems to be very close between the a, f d and the mainstream conservatives, the cd. you that, you know, if that were to slip, you know, the other way around then, then this could potentially look very different. but in terms of the, this point of fragmentation, i think it's what's really stressing that both the top 3 parties that took part in the, that a come top in this election today, 2 of them didn't exist just over

a decade ago. the 50 and the b s. w, just new party. this the b s. w didn't exist even a few months ago. i mean, this is so this is quite remarkable that that already kind of catapulted. first of all, this is more like fall left populist party into a position where they could potentially here we see the leader of the party just saw on the board behind us. yeah. so about that, and that kind of the, that the, there was so much kind of dynamic in the german political system. this is, the situation is, it is, is, is, is changing. it's, it's valez hello. you know, the political volatility. um and i think that is definitely one of the messages as it is like how can a party like that emerge so quickly? the f d. how can the party that is, is, has been branded as we had for our colleagues. there was extreme is by domestic intelligence is such a thread. how can that perform consistently so strongly come either 1st or,

or 2nd in the, in the states. um, so i think this points to do, you might have typing in some general politics right now. but then on the other hand, just we just had from mikayla is quite possible that the, you know, the coalition that we see in text me and the model it could potentially continue. so there may be less change on the surface and there is a nice of surface. now, richard, you're out chief international and it's that some of the colleagues have been walking around these states these past few weeks and speaking to voices, a lot of people have said that foreign policy has been a real big issue to them. that's a bit strange for rent and a little again, it's not to tell us what's going on here. it's kind of a powered on some of these recent elections. you know, that they all voting for a regional government then event supposed to deal with, you know, regional issues, you know, schools you know, kind of bread and butter issues. but i've also been in both states and in the last couple of weeks. and it's really striking hearing for

a lot of people that you know, in a way it feels like this is an election about g o policy, right? this is an election about what happens in the war and ukraine. so for instance, the pa, to you via somebody that we've just been talking about. if you look at that election program like the 1st chapter is peace, you know that i'm talking about trying to find and then to the bar and you can. so i think that, yeah, it's interesting if it points to what is a kind of issues that are really kind of motivating people at the moment that some of the basics may be like that kind of motivational power. but also there, there was an element of political party being able to say, look, this war is contributing to inflation. this war is contributing to all sorts of problems. and therefore, we need to sort of seek a quick fix away as of that, which might be, you know, trying to bring about negotiations to bring award and then to the war. and of course, the main stream parties say, well, hold on a minute, you know,

that would have severe potential consequences if there were a kind of a quick fix piece, which essentially had to go for a big chunk of ukraine to, to, to letting me a present but it is very striking to that kind of geo politics enters into the low level regional politics within germany. but i think it's, it's something that you see in other countries too. these are the issues that are, you know, there was a sense that the world is going through a turbulent period and that, that, you know, reaches people on the high level, but also right down to that everyday lives. and that's all chief international a to richard walker. richard, thanks very much that we're going to come back to you will, it will be life. so once we get some freshman numbers, thank you richard us and of course, as i just said, we'll have more on these crucial regional elections very soon. but 1st, let's take a look at some of the stories of making global headlines today. russia says it has intercepted more than 150 drawings launched by ukraine. targets included moscow and

the surrounding region. fires broke out and an oil refinery and a power station. the coast region where ukraine has launched in defensive was also targeted. poland has mocked id 5 years since world war 2 began with us. there are many advanced abrazzo with nazi germany attacked in 1939. the soviet union invited poland 2 weeks like the prime minister. i don't know to say i do. crime should not be left to defend itself as poland was. the medical staff had begun docs and acting more than 600000 children in gaza against polio. the territory has recorded its 1st case, you know, the 2 decades as well as military offensive has disrupted health care. and also in israel. anger is mounting off to the military recovered 6 date hostages from the tunnel in southern gaza. protest is a staging valleys in jerusalem. until the beach to demand a complimented grade to

a sci fi, we come off to allow the release of the remaining hostages. they accused the prime minister benjamin netanyahu, of undermining efforts to secure the release of their loved ones. is rarely tried. unions are called for a general strike on monday to pressure the government to reach a deal some 100 hostages, remained on accounted for since more than 250 were captured by homos. during the october 7, tara tax spells was pulling, and then it will show me one by one. i don't know the names of the 6 hostages, a read out on this really tv, crushing the laptops of their relatives and friends, and they saw me beta. and then we spoke a few hours ago, we informed the families that the idea of located the bodies of their loved ones and it underground tunnel and rough. i hope that go great bossy i p all 5. you shall need the harbor. initial assessment suggest they were brutally murdered by how much terrorist they've been with shortly before we reach them. someone could

say we cannot the live on the morning of october, 7th by the terrorist organization will come us. i'll book to be on a day is a good not the whole from us. one of the hostages was 23 year old is really american hersh. goldberg, paul, and she was seized by how much militants and a music festival in southern israel. during the attack on october, the 7th speaking through d w in december, his mother was full of hope. he would soon be released. i'm not, i pay all the time that i know there are kind good guys and civilians who are also caught in this horrible situation that we're caught in. and i want to pray and hope that there's someone kind there being kind to hers and to the other, you know, innocent people who are also being held there in a terrible situation. such words would resonate with people at

these riley and tel aviv held just hours before the idea and now it found the 6 bodies for months, protests, or is have been demanding a deal to release all hostages. to use the government of food, think it's political survival above the lives of israeli citizens. all the care about these, the politics and they didn't approve to, to do a deal with the would come us and so our loved ones has to be there. and thirdly, we don't see the horizon and don't know when they will be back with us. these really prime minister said the killing of hostages showed him us didn't want the deal. and the i say to the how must her wrists who murdered our hostages. and i say to their leaders, your blood is on your hand, or we will not rest and we will not be silent. we will pursue you. we will find you and we will settle the score with you. the conferred depths of 6 more hostages are

likely to fill the galvanize the protests with the opposition already vile when to bring israel's economy to a standstill and dw correspondent on your claim that he's covering the story for us from jerusalem. tanya, tell us about these approaches that we're seeing after the recovery of, of the bodies, the base hostages. well, i think you have to understand when people woke up this morning to this news, you know, there was a sense, i think among a lot of is where it is about really terrible loss and, and sadness, but also a lot of anger. and this is what comes across tonight at these protests as well. there was a purchase in jerusalem the afternoon and then a tonight, this really large protest in tel aviv to is a sense that this, you know, these hostages could have been released. and one of the d is a video that is currently on the table and negotiated by the many

a times between hum us and uh israel and basically the purchase. is he to blame the government and particularly prime minister benjamin netanyahu for letting those hostages die? we also had very harsh words from the hostages of families. par um, that's an umbrella group representing most of the families saying that the government abundance of the hostages and their calling for an immediate deal. uh for si fi that would include the release of the hostages. no matter was no matter how many posts and in prison this would have to be released. some also say this could be temporary, the war could stop for a 2nd by the end then as well could be a start of the war. but an attorney are refused so far to agree to these terms and let people hear basically saying tonight is the hostages. of those that are still alive are believed to be a life, a living on borrowed time. antonio,

israel is main life. the union has quoted general strikes for monday to pressure the government to reach a deal on the remaining hostages. is this gaining any attraction? it will as well. it does gain attraction. i think it's bothers significant that the history lou, this is the main and i would say the most powerful union and is ro, is joining a calling of for this journalist right from a 6 am in the morning. we also understand that the airports been green, apple will be close from a to m in the morning, so there will be no incoming or outgoing of flights uh at this point. but there will be many, many more that are joining in the smaller business, medium sized businesses that might, that were close. so i'm, i've also said their employees are free to, to come or to take part in and protest. we also heard from some municipalities like to leave their will completely shut down their services. they also understand that

the 3 main tv channels stay rescheduled already tonight. there are programs of, you know, a canceling entertainment. so its just covering the funerals and the pro tests. but also the many restaurants uh send them uh, as far as that also closing from sunday night saying that people instead of going there, they should support this time leaves and relatives of the hostages. it is unclear, however, receding protests. now for over, you know, the course of the war with a and how much impact that will have on the decisions are on the government. and tanya is riley prime minister benjamin netanyahu has apologize to the family of one of the date hostages. it, i'm curious, does that seem? does that suggest he's rethinking his approach to negotiations? that's why i don't think uh, his critics. uh see it. uh,

that's why i mean it's 3 apologize for not being able to bring a the last one home, the family he cold, but he didn't mention the deal. he basically blamed him us and he rode to continue his tragedy of maximum military pressure. he also has rejected the claim that he doesn't work for hostage do. but many i do believe that basically this comes to little and too late and that he's not very genuine about a bringing about this hosted steel. there was also a lot of commotion about a cabinet meeting that happened on thursday night when basically the government decided that a troops will not withdraw from the philadelphia cory door. and only the defense minister a voted against it, saying this might kill the hostages. and the long term uh so this is seen by many office critics, the 2001 to go really genuinely for

a deal that is more concerned about who's coming to a meeting. but i think the circumstances now of all of this, what happens here with those 6 hostages, the bodies that were recovered, we just got the news that the house ministry also released the exams to the forensic examination. and that shows that they were killed by several close rain shots. and that happened just 48 to 72 hours before the bodies were found. so that was thursday to friday. and i think this makes people here really angry that this happened because they said they could have been part of a deal that is on the table. that was d w 's, tanya claim reporting from jerusalem to tanya, thank you very much for that. as in other news, the united nations is warning that the mold in 2000000 children are at risk of disease from flooding in bangladesh. authorities are preparing for the spread of water borne illnesses and trying to maintain adequate adequate supplies of drinking

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hazard. you're watching dw, and you're just let me bring you up to speed now with the lightest on our top story, projected results in state elections here in germany indicates that the alternative to german, anything i have to has one, it's 1st size election in the, in through india, and now it's on cost to be the 2nd biggest party in the state of saxony. behind the conservative christian democrats, the f d, is an antique immigrant party, that opposes the german government funding of military height to ukraine. now, if these projected results prove correct, they build to look like 2 parties in germany's federal coalition, governments see, and to talk more about the why the implications of these selections. i'm again joined in the studio. i see you bye richard. walk out, chase international editor richard just explained to us and our audience. what does this mean for germany's overall political landscape? is these projections now? yeah, so, so what we're seeing here is the a f d, the far right policy,

that there's been a growing steadily in germany for the last decade. also is now pretty much confirmed as the strongest political force in eastern germany, the full month of the part of jeremy, the that used to be ruled by the communist. we got a 1st glimpse of this in the european elections this summer. when the f t came in the clear 1st place in every eastern german state, and aside from violin and, and what we seeing now in these 2 states using the range is so in one of the states that this voted today, the f d coming clear, told with a 7 percentage point margin of victory, roughly over a 6 or 7 percent over the mainstream conservative. and that is for a potty that is led by mount who, who is extremely controversial. a man who has been, who has been convicted in quotes of using nazi slogans in his speeches. this is the

man who is now leading. the policy that came tough in that state in the neighboring states was actually the we're also looking at here the f d coming 2nd, but really hot on the hills, the mainstream conservative also gaining votes compared to the last time around. so a strong showing for the f t for the this fall right policy on top of that, we have a far left policy that is surging. that is going from 0 to a significant polling. and both of those states. and what both of those parties have in common is a very kind of pro russia phone policy, saying that it's time for germany to stop supporting ukraine and this fight against russians and vision. and i think that's the side of this sort of political stress in the system in german society with, with the current course the, the drum used following. and i think what can be interesting is to see what kind of an effect that may or may not have on the big of mainstream parties, for instance, the mainstream, conservative insects. and they also ran on

a platform saying that it's time for germany's or we think is it's us, it's position towards the ukraine war rates. and we've just got some project and results in the field through india. so i'm just going to interrupt you there. and we can, we can take a look at those as i say, the project and results are in for the side of through india. let's. let's take a look at the numbers. the lift policy that had been leading of friends, all minority government is often pretty significant. loss is it has 12.4 percent of the vars. the fall rise alternative to germany is the largest party with 30.8 percent. the conservative christian democrats, the cd, you have 24.5 percent sent and left social democrats of tonsil ourselves. of 7 percent. the greens are on full percent and the free democrats have 1.2 percent. the sovereign commenced alliance will be as w, a new left wing populous body has had a quite significantly good today period. with 15.8 percent of the vice.

let's see what these numbers will have an impact on the seats for each party interchange estate problem. and it's gonna look like this with the far right alternative to germany projected to take. so he states, the conservative christian democrats looks at to have 24, the left wing populace b s w. as i say, that's the solve of i can connect to lines. that's predicted to take 15 states, the full, the governing body. the left is projected to have 12, and the center left is the dates on. so the whole left schultz is potty is set to have 7 seats. so we can go back to our chief political correspondent, nina, how's the in l foot in the range, the nina projected reading for the far right as, as we have been reporting, i just would be interested to get your initial thoughts on, on those things that we've that we've just heard oh jars, of course, there's bill and it's not clear yet. we don't have the final results. they'll. they

are trickling in at the moment. those numbers from the polling stations, and we are already seeing a difference when you look at the numbers, the public broad costs a, a d, a giving us to the numbers that public broad costs a as a giving us. so it's still not the final result. having said that, of course it does still look as though the a if the this fall right potty and especially is right wing extreme is chapter here . and so ring yeah is making is essentially and celebrating a victory here today. now whether that means that they're going to go into government and here in efforts that is file from trulia is highly unlikely at this point. because so far, all the more traditional democratic parties have said that they are standing by this firewall that they say is necessary to keep them at bay. there's on to immigration, anti establishment on t system if you will. policy that'd be on her. could lead candidates has

established here in the state. but if you look at those seats, that is uh, sending another very, very crucial message for everybody to look out for. because the gemini has a complicated political system. but it does come down to just how many seats does a potty get in a parliament. if you get one set of the seats in a regional parliament, that means that whether or not your and government, you have a so called locking minority. so anything a potential government under the conservatives, for example, with some of the coalition partners and like the new b as w movement together potentially with the s p d. and also the left party could form and anything they would suggest could be blocked by a party that has a set of the seats in the region empowerment. now that might sound um too complicated, but it means that you say the if the can wield influence from tomorrow onwards,

if they want to go from when the final results have come in the potential for significant influence such as you've been describing. now, you've also been describing how this this firewall loves the established bodies to keep the a, if the, by, if the, if the isn't able to, to job then will they try and do this as, as being on democratic that is something that they always do. and you also have to admit that it is highly common political procedure for any policies that comes out on top in those election results to say ok, now it's up to us to start in coalition talks and to start forming a government that is not something that is unique to the a f d we've already had beyond how could the lead candidate of the a if the say exactly that. he says that the vote is have given him,

essentially the highest position in this election. so it's up to him to form a government. however, having said, having mentioned already the firewall, it is very unlikely that he'll manage to do that just now. but of course, the voices are growing louder, who was saying we need a more pragmatic approach. so there is going to be a lot of pressure within the conservatives, but also within all sorts of policy, what people are saying, it hasn't worked to just warn people. all of this and take more grace and right we stream is group and it also has worked to, to say, we'll just do best to politics then. then we need a different approach and maybe that means to work together with them in some fields, one field or another. and that truly would be a watershed moment for germany. now nina, one of the, i guess, coalition constellations that people are talking about already is an alliance between the c d u, which according to the thing is, looks to be

a head. and then you solve of odd and connects to lines. this is a left wing migration skipped take part in that that was formed just at the beginning of this year. could you tell us a little bit more about this policy and the agents are the way you're describing this policy. just the shows again, just how difficult it is to describe this policy is off a 5 and connection was a member of the left party. so you could argue that she is a left wing politician. but then she founded how she broke away from the left politics. you found it her own movement a couple of months ago, and essentially gave it her own name. so this is the zappa wagner connected lions. now we don't know what this policy really stands for, from what we can tell as out of our next next has position. so very fall ask when it comes to social politics when it comes to equality of income, for example. but as far as migration is concerned, i wouldn't call those out of out and connect a lines

a left wing party. this is definitely something that you could also hear from more centrist, conservative or even right wing parties have positions in that field. so she's the big question mark tonight, and we'll definitely have to try and find out just what she stands well, but that is also a challenge for those who want to enter a coalition government with. that's our chief political correspondent, nina honda in half the nina. thank you very much. and the political corresponded. matthew moore is also in f at matthew. good to see you. your in front of the state parliament where a protest against the file ride is happening at the moment. what, what's it like there? and what are people telling you? yes, you all right, that's right. this was a full test arranged as one of the organizers to basically to offer a space for people to come together, who may be frustrated to maybe angry, who may be disappointed and the results. and also people who are maybe scared by

the results tonight. and really that describes the atmosphere because it slot it's really follow and there's a sensor. we negativity in the air, you speak to people when they say that kind of law school for the next, per se, se, uh, but when people come together like this, it shows that we are in the majority of the there are enough of us who are engaged as far right party and so they see that they wanted to show that they're all good, that there is a majority that that really is games before, right? politics of the, the has come across tonight. and it's also about seeing the other people think the same ways you, that there's a sense of community. and so although it's being flat and follow and this thing moving where people have come together and they've been hugging, i'm, i'm listening to speeches and there's been some chuckling and last thing has to be signed. but yeah, the mood overall really fly, really concerned about what the future who's so to speak to india and gemini. now matthew, you've been traveling around the region recently. you've done some explained is for us instagram account and see the use it just tell us what were some of the issues that are being really important to people that you would sort of able to gather

when you were talking to them and what kind of messages do you think that they wanted to send at the ballot box today? yeah, so it might report thing i do wish to dis 2 sites that you, you meet people who are either receive. this is a very critical moving into ranges, history and german history. here see as a moment where is the see in germany where people are afraid and the votes him because they were afraid. and then they're trying to kind of fumble aside to, to injure that open, that's welcoming because they say, you know, their neighbors are from or from other, other countries. they have the foreigners and they're here and they worried about her, the feeling this, the, as the far right continues to go up the 1st. and then on the other hand, you speak to well, who say for them that's all the issue. the issue is, is the war new strain, they're really concerned about the security about german money being spent on weapons in ukraine. they're concerned about jenn, me, potentially being dragged into a wider conflict. and then there's also the issue with regression, which is at the back,

right. and whenever you speak to people about german politics, because either people think for this, the big problem because they're worried about too many people who probably to jump in the jump in the system. kind of cool. well that just some kind of integrating people. and so there's, there's, there's, there's a comfortable competing mix of issues. and depending on who you speak to receive, that they have different views on how they should be talking to matthew, it's interesting when we're talking about migration, because as you say the i, if the rand it's campaign launch me or not. but if you look at the numbers in, in, in the range, the, it has some of the lowest levels of migration in germany and, and in as it's projected in the future in germany skill shortage, it's going to be needing a lot more migrants to be coming in to, to fill these gaps in the workforce. what are people think about this kind of disparity? what you notice when you come to parts of eastern germany is that there was

a high level of coverage is for people that there's the people who don't appear within them, the waste them germany and their sense of kind of in security really feeds into the politics and the, the news that there are certain issues with of being there kind of bread and butter issues. since i would say $0.20 a migrant crisis, and then it will work to hit these issues and they talk about them constantly, then it will appeal to people. sense of yeah, and it's a mission as a resumes here. even as you see, the migration isn't really big, you interchange as a portion of the account of the population. but yeah, it's a mission to stay with managers to, to, to, to kind of feed through to people. and so it's just shows you that sometimes the reality can be upset with the, the, the measures that people have or people's perceptions of a problem i'm not has that has worked in this case. there's not just thought it's also people who are fed up with uh, coordination, government involvement, people who are concerned about, as i said, the wind rush uh, in the crate, is that like conflict, roughly between basically feeding over into germany and, and then also inflation has been rising and mission use,

all of these things have come together on it's been, it's been a perfect recipe for the s t. yeah. they, they, they really don't have to try very hard to come by on top, on not message the questionnaires. now what we look forward, what will happen when people will continue to blow home and start working with a se. there's firewall to threaten my wife just told the german brother about restrict, okay, i'm not the people here behind me at this post, as they've said that that is their target now is the if any part you says that even consider doing going into correlation with the see that there we bought out on the streets and the hundreds of potentially thousands. that's how political correspondents, matthew, more in the capital of 3 ga. now said matthew, thank you very much for that. what's going to saxony now entered into the expected results from the projections are indicating a slide lead for the conservative christian democrats will. cd you right now, the cd you using the governing coalition with the greens in the sand to lift social democrats. now projections have the cd you on track to win august 31 percent of the

vote. they followed closely behind by the far right a f d with about 30 percent. now this new come a policy to be as w o to solve as often connects to lines, is instead place taking around 12 percent of the ballots. the s p d, so that's the chancellor. olaf schultz is social democrats there and forth with around ice and a half percent, followed by the greens with just over 5 percent of divides. let's take a closer look at the balance of power in sacks and these polymers off to these elections. and these projections now the conservative c, d, u has won the most states we've 43 according to the projections fully closely, time body. i stay with 41, the sovereigns. mister lyons b as w would be the 3rd largest party taking 16 states chancellor left salts as as p d and the greens round out the remains attacking $12.00 and $8.00 states respectively and not chief political correspondent mckayla kirsten that is

in dresden. she's at an events for the conservative christian democrats, mikaela, just wondering your initial thoughts off to hearing those. he gets well here in saxony, particularly the state premier from the conservative math. instead of writing that he said he policy was able to hold the day of the policy at say he was a bit of luck in counseling. if, if these results are found out, they're very good news for him because they could potentially allow him to continue with this sense of democrats, tom, tom, tom, read them, and the green, sorry to just about made it into the regional problem. and so

he's the providing stability where others are guessing that this is in neighboring us a ring. yeah. because of the ac coming talk. so that's the huge success story. at the same time, everybody has heard the message that this all right, a, if the is stronger than they expected just a couple of years ago. and that is thought the won't go away unless it occurred small could also potentially find himself with a position where he might need to speak and complete the new code. this was a completely new policy which is led by a form, a list of policy leading. they go, who has pretty much a right. we take on migration here in germany. so see is a popular as well. very complicated options and no one could say this is this,

the bar, it's free really for watts potential color. this is vanessa big. it's hard to get upwards of 30 percent nationally here in germany, but it is. it's around about 1516 percent. so the limits to what this tells us about where germany nationwide is for the city right now. yeah, i wanted to ask you a bit more about that. i mean, germany, eas, holding federal elections. i, i thinking around a use time. it's next year at least the senior year would be looking at these results today and, and being quite delighted with them. one would expect a year out from federally election. yes, the conservative view is going to be pretty please. i would also expect the opposite of the, the cd map to be very pleased with himself as well over the

election results. at the same time, the person that knew made this happen. this is a customer is an exceptional figure within the conservative tom. he holds the very unusual position of not continuing with the level of support for the train we're seeing right now. i spoke to people by the scene say within the conservative view, they see 0, it's on so. so that's the reading into what the conservative, the national policy proposals box. it also shows that a bit of flexibility, this whole campaign that was also run on the one here in the east, which is very much on willing to look at the roof. so to complete the as a dresser, only that this makes the difference. so it's a very different phone of conservatism as that modest to succeed here. the no michela, let's talk about another important part in, in all of these,

this is the, the new comedy, the populace b, s. w, the salvage value, connected lines, and left wing migration. skip dig potty. that's managed to do very well in, in just a few short months since it was founded at the beginning of the c. uh, what are your initial thoughts about about this alliance and how well it's done? well, and so it shows that it's almost like a mathematical populism formula that taking elements of left wing policy on social spending, for instance, at the elements of right wing policy, which is on to migration time works um this policy launch district talk to arise immediately. he thinks double digits just also a couple of months, but also because of the very positive popularity of the very least that germany too, is becoming more and more about personality of politics. is that

a copy? if you much it from both sides of the political spectrum can be a formula for success. but just out of our could still take up the political landscape view. here from the full of big 10 policies. i thought i saw the democrats that they feel that they are mentoring the political landscape here in 70 bucks. you know they, they clearly are providing a voice. so many people who fell on her. she has single handedly pretty much destroys the next policy in the other less talking, which is the successor of the communist. yeah, it's the drum of the on see the house and appetites who so i see the upcoming schools. certainly in the east. i very much doubt she's able to replicate any of that in the old west s s d w is chief political

editor, mckayla, cuz now they're interesting for us. thanks a lot. mikaela dw political correspondent, julia sound daily is also interesting. she's at the election potty of the if the, the alternative fit you have any right now julia. the projected result for the i update insights and e, he's in 2nd place. this is a far better result than in previous selections. what is, how is the eye of the reactant to this the? yeah, well, we've seen a lot of scenes of celebration here when the 1st exit came out. also because the numbers that have been rejected here on the screen in the room, our exit polls coming from the public broadcast or cbs and not the ones coming from id and see the f has projected that there is only a 0.5 percent difference between the seed you which is leading in the exit polls in

the and the ac that is coming in 2nd. so that has given a lot of hope to people hear that as the election results keep trickling in in the next few hours at the ac. made that may actually catch up with you and, and maybe come in. this is something that we've heard from people that we've spoken to here, that there is so hope that they may have been ahead. but there's generally been some, quite some satisfaction. the party was able to gain some more votes compared to the last selection 5 years ago. and there was also celebration looking at the results coming in from to range of where the ac is coming in to help julia the i. if the themes as we've been hearing is a potty that no one really wants to phone. a coalition with and parties are actively working to, to prevent them from governing. but i guess a question, a lot of people will be asking, can you ignore a party that receives so much of, of device the,

of the well, uh, as, as it stands right now with the exit polls we could possibly see um the coalition for me would be party the parties that are currently in the governing. listen. so the cd which is waiting and the greens which have seemed to have made it into the car limits. that was an open question. now there's also recording and at the end, but it also, we need to see whether the land by all the other party is in the political spectrum to isolate the a fee, to not want to cooperate with the weather that will hold. anything can happen in politics, but for now it looks like the one of the likely scenarios is the current pool. listen with some members, some parties, especially the greens and the sd. part of this coalition though, really wants to bring it forward. and what could happen now is that there would be some uncertainty. it could take months to actually form

a coalition that has some standing and that could actually be able to govern. so there's going to be a lot of negotiations going on here here in section 8. and i believe it's going to be closely watched also nationally because it might even then ends up having an impact on politics in germany nationally. and the governing coalition in berlin. that's the double use. political correspondent, julia solved really interesting for us, julia. thank you. political correspondent, simon young, is at the headquarters of the s p d here in building simon. good to see you. what have you been hearing from party members that it's yeah, he went to s b d headquarters. this is lashelle. it's is probably the chewing over these results. all the good results of a bad result. so there is some positive for the s p d. they have managed to a, getting to parliament in both sex and the entering. yeah. and there was some fear

that at least in one of the states, they might to be kicked out entirely. not only that, there's a possibility that they will be in government as part of coalitions in both states . so the political standing remains, but nonetheless, the key thing to point out in the range here, in particular, this talk to one of the oldest and most important mainstream parties in germany has come in 5th place. and that's the worst result in the regional election. in postwar jim and a so there's a lot of mulling over that for them to do and to, to try and tease out what the reasons for a pretty pool result. oh yeah. so i mean, what kind of headaches do results like these close for the party on the federal level and, and the federal government as well. i think they will cause significant headaches at the general secretary of the speedy given to and it's just been

speaking. he said, you know, that a lot of international and national issues played into these elections. it wasn't possible for the s p d to, you know, make its points relating to regional politics so much. he's thinking about things like ukraine, i think, and also the migration issue that we've had so much about that. and what do you said was, you know, well, we need to communicate better on those issues. that means get out into the country and you know, try to persuade people that the government is on the right course. he wasn't talking about changing policies. he's talking about talking up there, policies, some indications. we're hearing the laugh, shouts, personal pool popularity. writing is pulled down the s p d value, and so that'll be some things about the strategist to look at as well. and i think going forward, there's a lot of numbers for everybody to, to, to, to me. so,

i mean, who's to blame here? i mean, what kind of soul searching is the s p d going to be doing off to off the results like this? yeah, well, as i mentioned, one soul sees that. so you know, the national leadership and above all the challenges name self. i have not helped the speed these result results in these important states elections. so that will be one thing that will be looking at. but i think also they are looking at how the image of the national coalition government may have affected effective people's perceptions at all. 3 coalition policies to pretty poorly and the, the liberal f d p for a democrat policy has not gone into either of these state parliaments, the greens into any one of them. and again, the general secretary of this party, the social democrats, was saying, well, it's time for us to immense a page ourselves with those other coalition policies and get out there and tell

people what they get if they vote for us, for social democrats. so you can see there emancipating from the coalition. this results has not contributed to stable national government. if anything is one more nail in the coffin of that national coalition here in berlin, that's a political correspondent, simon young, at the headquarters of the s p de, the social democrats here in berlin. simon, thank you. are and i'm joined in the studio, back to dan with richard walk out chase international edits, a richard as simon was explaining the 3 parties in this coalition, have had kind of a to moultrie, his relationship over the period of, of government. and it seems like in lodge they're, they're fairly on the nose with vote, as i'm wondering what your, some of your initial takeaways have been. yeah, i mean, this has been part of the speculation going into these selections and whether the,

these regional elections would be so bad for the policies in the federal government . that it could be stabilized his government for the move which is looked at. so it's a 3 way coalition that is being in power here in portland. now for, for 3 years, a coalition that kind of started off with a robust suitable to mistake. we're going to be a progressive force to kind of more nice germany. that was the message, but relatively quickly in fighting kind of took hold of the, of this coalition and the, the very different ideological positions of the various parties becoming a hindrance for them to really get things done together. and this is being made particularly obvious during the course of this summer where they couldn't even agree on a budget for the government for next year. and whenever they came out and they said had, they said they had a budget, then soon off of that, one of the parties would say, well actually we don't like it off to rule. so i think you see an opinion polls of this. this is kind of be maddening,

the job in public and that is part of the backdrop to these selections that we see here. and says we had from simon the election results. the s p d is the biggest of the policies and the government was bad. but it could have been worse and has probably the, the, the, the, the take away that they going to have and yeah i, i don't think it looks like these results. have it in them necessarily to, to force you know, a further d stabilization of that national coalition or, or it's break up pull that there was all sorts of things that could potentially lead to do that. i mean, if we go ahead, so coming next we have. okay. tonight, we'll see how the selection results really play out. does, for instance, the a f, the managed to squeak out. so the far right managed to overtake the mainstream conservatives and sex. and if that is super, super close, you know, that could happen during the next few hours. if that happens, they'll be a whole new degree of soul searching on the dummy level that the 50, the far right managed to win both of those elections. and even if that doesn't

happen, it's gonna be very complex. and the weeks ahead is we had from the correspondence back house to try to form government in both of those states. and then later in september, this in 3 weeks time, there's another reason election in brand, but so that's the state of the kind of surround spelling like a don't not. the lacy's pulling also suggested that before, if they would come to help in that, but not quite with such a strong showing as in the 2 states we've had today. and then also that everyone starts looking to the national elections, which take place late next year. and as we just had from assignment that this an unpopular government, he took that nail in the coffin. i think everyone is expecting that, that government, that coalition is not going to be able to continue off. so that's election next year that there's going to be some sort of change of power. so that's really kind of where, where people will be looking at that point. and the question that many will take away from this in, from these regional elections with the f d the far right, so strong plus the sort of fall left. but as we heard was sprinkling so far, right?

policies the, the, this but this saw a back nice this or that button. there's deadlines also an increasing fact. so what kind of a role because that play next year and so those are some of the questions we take out of those, those 2 parties that you just mentioned, the a if the and, and the bonus solve about in connection to solve involving mr. lyons, they they both far left and 5. right. but they do have some, some common ground when it comes to, to russia and ukraine, and that's really connected with the, the yeah, the starts. yeah, that's right. we nice and there are 2 areas where these 2 parties really have a lot of overlap. there's one area which is a migration to that, but both for, you know, taking pretty toughest offices against migration. and the b s. w, that's cool. it had the button. so if i can face and say stress that that they are open to what they are more open than they after the 2 to qualified migration to

fill kind of the gift demographic got to germany has they have to use. but they have both of those policies, really kind of playing to the right in terms of the immigration and then on this question of, of the way ahead in ukraine will. both of them take almost identical positions saying that the germany is fueling. this will by providing weapons to ukraine that vladimir uprooting kind of you, if, while they may agree that the war is illegal, the invasion, the pollution mounted. and it's impossible to deny that. but they show on the standing face motivations. and so say essentially that may so in the west promote him, and they want to major change. now, these uh, policies that have, you know, they've made gains now in the states. it's put them in some sort of position of national responsibility where suddenly, you know, everyone's going to say, all right, we'll go with you. but it's interesting to see the way that,

that kind of opinion can impact potentially of the cartridge. as we've been talking about tonight, the mainstream conservatives, the cd, you which positioned themselves as whole case on ukraine, super strong support for ukraine, providing even more weapons. and the national government is providing the leader in the states of sex and the popular needs of that to i was given free reign to present a very different policy and saying that providing weapons ukraine has not what is run the schools. we need to pursue a completely different track of negotiations. so to what extent does that kind of spill over from the states spillover from these policies, more into mainstream politics in germany? we don't know if this is going to be something to watch in the months ahead, but it is, you know, it is assigned to western democracies. of course, while they tried to support ukraine in this fight, they have to deal with turbulent public opinion, right?

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