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the know, understand can have a think like the right to present what do you have any news on instagram and follow up the hello and welcome to the 77 percent. so this week we are in 10 years. capital nairobi west since june, mississippi. and indeed, the rest of the country has been turned into a political stage visa protested by young people and some even lost their lives. small coming up on this very special edition, so it just came on now if you've seen any images from kind of lately, you may notice that today is a very quiet did here and they will be there. no chance in crowds must just lead no t a goes but seems to be june. young tenants have been gathering on these 3 in town
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halls and also online. now initially, the mostly just before the test as one to the controversial finance field that would increase taxes in the country to be dropped. but now those protests like others in africa are about much more than a single issue. here's what's coming up. we'll find out what steps can we look at previously, a protest from a part of the confidence and we'll try to find out all this. but before we go any further, let's take a look at what's happened until now. this will be in a normal day it would be traffic congestion on the road. but right now the road is full of young people. what being for testing a controlled by some finest vehicles using what i would consider to be excessive force of the moment. we've just had to, to back,
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we had seen somebody get injured just beyond the roads that it started out as peaceful protests. young kenyon straight and flags cooling. so can use parliament to reject a finance build up. many felt imposed exorbitantly high texas on an already squeezed canyon population. would it be paying taxes? and then you do that you, i ping dental doing much would be to the this includes in the protest is with soon, much with t goes water, cannons, arrests, and even live bullets. the 2nd day of protests ended in the depths of 29 year old mex messiah allegedly strolled in the evening of the protest and 21 year old evans q. how to, who died off to he was huge by to you guys kind of stuff. yes. that was our need to stop on june 25th to purchase went nationwide,
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and i really be the focus was in homage and up to m. p. 's version for the adoption of a finance bill purchased a storm and national assembly with police opening file. and this is all of the was from parliament that it was actually brought down by the protest as well as a lot all of our, these a truck on the side of that side that has been buns belonged to the police since the beginning of the protest or the 50 people are lost in life and many more we injured. but that is not the time people, they organize, blood donations, raise money to food hospice, who bills and organize the concepts in remembrance of the victims for the longest time needed to be nothing has been the hands of the old and the elite. and the rich dogs, but only because, you know, which, i mean, it's the majority of the continent. we are the ones who don't have jobs, but the ones that we didn't even see trying to get it to go abroad. so the question, you know, what you want to put to our country is that obtaining the high seas, i'm going to do menial jobs and you're in the week since the protest have become
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most boss. unlike the numbers of witness in the previous weeks to date, very few protest as have come out in part due to the high number of security details, you can see behind me they keep loving t, i guess. it's all over the, at, with a heavy security presence arrest and often even abductions, by plain clicked offices. the protest as may not be in the streets, but the conversations continue on ex spaces offline and 3 quotes and petitions. this is a political oh, it can mean everyone is the, you know, the interest. so like what it, this is around taking pictures and you know, we're asking them david questions. and so many people are saying this has, has died. but it's actually the beginning and the government's response can use president has sent the finance bill back to parliament and dismissed his entire cabinets. he has attempted to dialogue with the per testers, but they say he's actions to ensure a true will. now is the bill here is to be walking on the street because this was
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the size of some of the west. me says during the never be protest. now the countries parliament is just around the corner. and on june 25th young people, what able to reach the barriers, the, and data entry. you know, of course, a lot of people were injured and minimal also lost their lives. now we might have young people to discuss this issue and to tell us why exactly the what else in the streets. and it turns out that the more interested in talking about how security personnel dealt with a protest once the hello and welcome back to the 77 percent strict debates. my name is edith kimani, and this week we have back in 10 years. capitol of ne ruby, what do i hit to ask a protest? the only way for kenya is to get the voices, hud. and what next? what the young people of this movement, who better to answer that question the, the actual members of the movement took you right. let's start with you because you stood up to a police officer and you said, you're not taking me anywhere. i'm standing up for my rights. why, why you so angry that day?
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that's was the 2nd be of the protest. and on the 1st the i had been, i raced it. i wouldn't even use the time i just said, because i was, i'm bushed by pain clips of he says, and they threw me into a vehicle. they had asked me, they beats me and they took me to central police, and we were detained among the protest as until 8 pm. so it's a, i didn't understand why the people in the minds and had to be met with such brutality. so i was like, if this moment, if i happens to me, i get i have to be able to speak up for myself and to be honest, i was scared to but to my anger and frustration. so plus the big my fia, at that point, right. so shakira is august superseding of fear. mohammad, you are a journalist to communicate to but very much also involved in these protests. so i did ask the question, what sparked the protest because i mean canyons have been known to purchase for a while, but not like this, not at this scale. can you also come to the brink of definition so many times,
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but revolution? that's a very strong what it is, a very strong body. i think we can go back all the way to the ninety's when you had the multi party out when we will fight them from one to part to democracy in this country. 2002, when all of us, well who to talk and saying your to is a kind of dealing with this one uniform, fucked us well. and that is pretty patients oldest, come in and hijacked the movements and make it about themselves. so what's the difference, this thing fall and i think the people that they look tired of that. so then what is the message now? because at the beginning it was very clear, right? reject the finance bill. i don't want to speak some people who participated in the protest. i did that involve binding buildings looting businesses, because this is also what the occupant of being accused of like the 1st day when drugs got shot. i was in the photos and cbd up full of as excited to go home because it's the end of the day night time was coming and the streets will generally no going to be safe to left. but then the meanings are coming to downtown
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. you're being told all the people who are here to lagoons, people is businesses or i in fact before attract most of the professors are trying to go home. all of us wanted to go through. we were tired, let me bring in a child. so we know who you might recognize as a form us books best on for the police, based on your own assessment, an observation, how would you rate the behavior of putting use to was the protest of in those early days that they sometimes they'll be conflicts. but police find themselves in because as you had the young man talk, most of these issues as a political provenance between the public and politicians. police officers coming in force laws and regulations of the land. well, what i, what kind of constitution is that'd be tomorrow by brent and i think what the 7 of the constitution provides that you can demonstrate to you can assemble, you can pick it to kind of present petitions, to authorities, pc, please. and then who did the police respond and so do they consider us 1st or the
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politicians? the police going to see does the nation every one of you? because for example, she's a business woman. if you break into i shop and what happens to her, so from where i seats, i don't want to defend anybody. but what i'm saying is kind of, we follow the law. okay. let me hear from some people here because i'm seeing the house coming up. if it didn't want us to ourselves, the default position of the police of this country since independence has always, has always been filings. know some of the people who came out drinking support is that kids well for middle class families, police brutality for them. it's things they see on tv or they need them to people. if you go to these low income for these neighborhoods, this informal settlements, the more that is the keep does. this is the data if you had reached the funds killed without any due process. yeah. so we have somebody here from the law society of can you, what does the law say about peaceful protest and what the police on the right? because we saw images of people holding just the flag. and yet they're being sprayed with what's a kind of the unfortunate thing that we have weakness in this country,
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is that the keep up with tutored by the state and obviously of these because we saw a quote involving the issue. i know that they had a team that the police officers would not to use like the we put in the, you know, to use force was, you know, see was what the economy. and it was created, directive things, but the general police to ensure that they probably, that combined the following the there was a product as failed. and i as in the various cities and we could witness the police waiting to devotional that order. i'm going to give me so we're not just respond to that. and then i want us to move away from the issue of felicia, when you, by the police, from using the tools required for the treat. you mean live i munition different labor? i mean, nation. yes. i don't want to lie. i went to the video next year. even live i munitions. the story of, of is a tool of trade for the police. we have had cases of terrorism here, people coming with bombs and fight. i'm. so what i'm saying is that when it comes to t, i guess the quotes trying to stop the police from having to using to you guys or
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using by phone or even using his get. it is misplaced team. this things that it is equivalent to telling the police the police station, let us protest. the president has already made some concessions, fired nearly his entire cabinet has now re appointed. some people are to still be made to them. how do you feel about that? do you feel like the president is listening to the demands of the youth? honestly, i don't think he is because um, if you see that a shuffle, it's like he just switched positions. you know, it's like this person was here. come stay here. you go. stay here. just, just to show people, it's like it's pretty that'll just people's mind. like i've done something. so what the real issues, let's come back to that. it's evidence that when we say route to him, i school, we don't specifically refer to roots so much of the anti uh government that he's the backing him up. they've been given a chance time and time again, cause this up with you to chance of had about since i was i need to golf. so i
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think it's just time we it's like it because tracking everything and start afresh for my new foundation. so what are the solutions i'm going to plead with a youth. my children go to school in that will be, i walk in that will be, that means my children and they'll go to school. i would not go to black and i am a single mother of 3 children kindly as a human being. i wish, i hope that this protest can take a big time. so why don't you support the movement? you don't want lots of business. they don't want the loss of life. okay. understood, let me get some more points. my solution is simple, the band people you, i didn't my unit stop tribalism. the driver, excuse me. i don't say you add a tribal if i say we have been practicing probably bullies of you identification
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should stop. i want to see an election where you are going to elect people based on, on or not based on the policies that they want to send to you because got in police, that's a fair point. and finally, i'd like to hear from you more. let's close this with you. as, as civilians, we're going to take a civic duty very seriously from now on the other day on tuesday we had 2 different similar thing, a street spaces on wednesday. well, one group was teaching people about the bills that are being tabled in parliament and other purpose teaching people. if a group of him, lawyers were teaching people about the actual, the, the constitution read teaching a point to, they're going to make life very uncomfortable for point additions. and then i'm non violent for you. okay. let me just clarify, right? so we have to rock that because of the time, but i did ask a question, you know what next? and i think the answer has been very clear here that even if it's not on the streets, it's going to be somewhere online or perhaps a so debates like this, right? so i thank you all for participating. i did read somewhere,
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the b protest will not so much on side government, but pro good governance. and i think this debate has clearly illustrated that. thank you for watching to thank you so much to everyone who to investigate now the longer version is available on youtube and just for your information that we had initially approved several politicians and p to try to understand how they see their role in one of these political changes, but the ones able to join our debate so much like here in kinda nigeria use was a sense of one of the largest protest movements in africa. and saw, can you believe that it's already been for years? so let's take a look back at what the process of, of thousands had got it to peacefully demonstrate it, gave rise in cases of police brutality. i know that the protests were largely peaceful because i was there before to put that evening. the protest phones
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illegals would turn into cries for help, and the same place where people called for their rights to be upheld would be the same place they were killed. it all started on the 3rd of october, policemen from the special anti rubbery squad unit, but known as sars, allegedly killed a young man in southern delta state and took away his scar as a video of the deadly of salt lake online. hundreds of young people took the social media event and share their own. so i was experiences, all of which went bad. so i was, was initially formed in 1992 to tackle armed robbery in the country. but the units grew into inventory, of course, popular for a starting and abusing young nigerians might have to raise the on my anger against stars had gone so much that is built into the streets. nationwide, illegals, protest is mounted road blocks and shut down traffic. thousands got it and the
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lucky to get a major highway in which area of the city this would come to be the main demonstration points. their demands was simple, they wanted size band, that officials prosecute to and so victims to become so stated. but they were also advocated for the officials themselves. they wanted them to be mentally evaluated, and for the salaries to be increased, so that it would have fewer reasons to extort. on the 11th, as the process gave momentum, the nigerian police finally scraps thoughts, the sufficient drawbridge quote of denied europe for this and no worries, none the size is here but dissolved, but people were buying it. this wasn't the 1st time the police was claiming to reform stars by then the demonstrations had become more of a move met anyways, and people with the monday, not just the police reform for better governance. on monday the 19th legal scale, no budget is so lou from
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a traditional panel to look into saws of uses for the protest continues still and see for some cases of police crackdowns, they were largely disco. all the criminal elements has started to infiltrate. a thousands of protesters got it again and lucky to get on tuesday. october 20th. they noticed the things with different people told me that they sold, told, gave staff. we move in ccv cameras installed in the area. and that as evening fell, the street lights wouldn't come on leaving the place completely dark at around 4 pm grove, no. show lou, impose the curfew, trying to is to order. but many poor testers at the till gate remain there. then at around 7, middle to 9 june armies holding on several vans started to think of the own. i'm demonstrators. eye witnesses told me the count of several buddies that night taken away by the army. but it wasn't over. as one of the
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keyless traveled remarks to through the streets, newton shops, burning beauteous and attacking policemen. 12 people died according to this, the international and many more were injured to the 92 and the government to set up judicial panels to look into the police violence, but denies the killings of october 20th like any of you took to the streets as successful. you have the controversial saws for these units disbanded. what are these? well, people died on that night of what is now known as the left. he told the mazda com. so what happens during such process and why did the police meet often react to this we, i guess he's still protest of what we're supposed to secrete the experts here in kenya . and this is what he had to say. it's the day of the protest. hundreds, perhaps thousands of people stream into the streets. the organizes had notified the police, but the sheer numbers overwhelming. so how to react that in scenario is
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that any unit that is past due manage within that, you know, did addiction, would go in to protect those the royalties? i mean, those protest us to get to the end to get them in which case, you know, present a petition to a, the power or, or an agent of the target. and no way to influence auction to, to just basically spell out their grievances. and once that is done, been go buckled peacefully over the top, usefully to the police, i suppose to prove tact, especially in countries which guarantee the right to freedom of assembly. in other words, the right to protest. but then we've also just seen web accessories on the part of the old and well, you know, as the noise, you know, in the future does come in to take a bunch of the she and numbers. and that's about getting the infrastructure that's supposed to be providing security. how booked to be very vigilant to a single out. this advertise. and to relevantly apply force to, you know,
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impede some of these actions on or to arrest them altogether. what we've seen across the african continent, however, is that police are onto their tea. and in many cases, when the situation becomes more volatile, they fail to be escalate and king is most recent protest. police used to your guys and what kind of the despised, even just a handful of people. and in addition to that, to be filmed, officers use the fire arms, even if you have to drop out a weapon and to shoot at, you know, at, at whatever it is that is out there. there's got to be an existent shots that are that to live, that is the end of the life of the opiates of themselves, sophisticated agencies. and, or there's one from destruction or property. or this are risk to, you know, a threat to life, especially on the part of the people that are being protective. in preparation for the c fellwood cup and south of the game, 2010 police as security forces got special training to prepare them to control the
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crowds of to is. i'm support fence is edward descent on the industry for south africa, which was the most from the boot advertise era, a few years back. it was a learning curve. they could not afford to enjoy this in fine. so what needs to be changed to training discipline and more consequences for those who don't stick to the rules. what's clear is that the change needs to come from the top. so we've now looked of can you always looked at like syria? what's another country that's still a very prolonged use uprising for south africa? the fees must fall. protests took place between 2015 to 2017, almost a decade ago. i've got time students with protesting the high cost of universities . and because we wanted to find out what happens to move and when that initial wave of protest size though we us some of those former students, the reality is that society is high for us as we begin sandals running around
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causing chaos. i think that the student movements to get a bad rap really, really bad rap because all that people see is the violence, but they don't know what has to happen in order to get to that stage. and so i'm going to visit you just lovely dealing with people. well, i don't care. you know, if it was the one to release the ins and so he now in a post these last 4 united way, the media, we're academia itself is loading things in the school. as you know, there's a visionary movement in a post and the projects that i forgot. but at the time of these, my school moved very isolated and we were treated as patriot and shoulder. and she didn't understand the reality of us as opposed to it's almost been a decade. the students who have ment, fuels by the high cost of university fees, in the sense that the education system was talking to apple side colonial past.
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clone instructions with toppled under the hash tag. what's most full of the students demanded. the university fees must full for the education is not only accessible to reach the students funky page to accomplish this, but it will also mess with polls by police and the university is private security investment, which what does this mean? so because we cause ungovernable diversity we took over from the punishment, it's much harder to organize when they are private, security with rifles guiding different buildings, and as much time to organize when even during the teens piece, with the cold and for time to shut down the campuses put enough pressure on the universities to agree to some of the other minds to be believable. bethany rumor agreed with us and called for free education, but now we needed them to state how is going to be funded. we know that
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transportation never came. and so there's obviously just the tactics to the mobilize us and it was very effective. 9 years down the lines, students with places of advocates, best universities still here losing debt sports due to outstanding debt in 2024. over $1900000.00 students applied for financial aid, it just feels like every single generation is going to fight. they best fight and then woke to steps forward 10 steps back. and we keep advancing. we do have just an incredibly slow rate. and what did they learn from me? jersey is that we was young, we were making things up as we went along. one of the things picked up to us a made as is young people to refuse most folks is that to do also to your m go
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out to our communities involved them organize, mobilize and organize, and the elect members that you trust that are vetted also mobilization that is directly talking to the institution you're protesting. my hope is that we as young africans can revive the spirit of an african, a struggle that we can support each other. as was the case in the sixty's in the seventy's. there's a need for us to go back to our roots and to read and to nod and to speak to, i'll do. and so i'm very excited for what the future holds for young africans who are taking that power back. so reflection disappointments, but perhaps as we just had, oh, well, we've come to the end of our show, but hearing kenya, the countries use a still in the midst of things will continue to bring you the latest developers. and you can also follow us on 6 talk the costs for you to,
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