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a little in pull tava, victims had almost no time to take cover as to ballistic missiles arrived within minutes of being launched, president will let him use the landscape again, pleading with western allies for air defense systems and missiles immediately as residents born those last, i'm clear richardson in brooklyn, you are watching the day a the, the, the air rates alert, started, and in just a minute there were 2 explosions there above mind last injuries, fractures and the combination of injuries defending systems in the midst of needed a new crail. it would be an alternate warehouse somewhere. the people, every day of delay means on more lives lost.
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also on the day, mongolia refuses a chance to arrest of water approaching on an international warrant. instead, rolling out the red carpet for the russian presidents visits that are going to probably this is yet another example of another correct in the system based on international law. it 8 o'clock. but the question is how this affects the rest of the world order new mustang for sound? for me, it seems dangerous. hello, i'm clear. richardson, welcome. one of the deadliest strikes to hit ukraine since russia's full scale invasion hits a city some 300 kilometers east of kiff to ballistic missiles blasted into a ukrainian military college building and a hospital in pull tava, killing dozens and injury. hundreds more. ukraine's president will let him years a lensky has vowed to hold russia responsible. and countries, including the united states in germany,
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have condemned the attack. a number of buildings were destroyed, with many people trapped under the russell. after the strikes, presidents of lensky repeated his plea to western allies, to lift restrictions on military support for ukraine, which seems to be g. once like lions, we urge everyone in the world who has the power to stop. so this is tara, a defense systems and missiles needed in ukraine or not in a warehouse, somewhere around a long range strikes the can defend against the russian terrace needed now and not sometime later, with every day of delay means more lives lost. and as i said, he will, of course, bonnet and key of caroline actually says that that we might well come up at a meeting in germany later this week for landscape residential. and he has been mentioning this for the past the years and uh months they need to as a defense uh, systems. uh patry is uh this is one of the main requests he makes in every interview. during his last interview. when he mentioned this topic,
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he said that you create needs at least 25 patio systems and to keep the country safe. while we know that this friday there will be that meeting and that i am shy and again of the nato partners and the rep in a union on how to support ukraine. i'm probably this will be a topic again. let's see. as the western countries are ready to deliver more patriot systems to ukraine of an attack in full java happened at the same time that ukraine is conducting an offensive in the russian region. of course, last month ukraine began carving out a section of territory which the landscape says they will not give up. he says it's part of a victory plan. he will submit to western allies during a visit to washington. it is, it is mostly the rush in the city of sue just now under ukrainian control part of the territory concord starting on august 6th in a surprise operation that it claims took more than 1200 square kilometers in the course region just before ukraine went on the offensive president followed him is
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a lansky, spoke to french media about possible peace talks, touching on the topic of territorial concessions. ukraine will never give up its territory is because this would be an attack on the constitution. he said. decisions on ukrainian territorial integrity cannot be made by the president, but by the ukrainian people. the landscape piece plan backed by the west, calls for russia to pull all of its troops out of your train as a precondition for any talks. it also wants trials for war crimes and reparation payments for its part. russia demands that ukraine surrender for regents that moscow says it amex and claims as russian territory. and ukraine would have to officially renounce its desire to join nato of an impasse. so could you cranes incursion be a way to change the calculus of peace, although seizing russian territory and the curse region is an embarrassment to put
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and still it's less than 110th of one percent of russia's land mass. whereas russia control is about 20 percent of ukraine's territory, and it's still advancing in the east. in addition to the land that's taken however, ukraine has also captured hundreds of young conscript soldiers. savanski refers to russian prisoners as you cranes exchanged fund. and so lensky spoke specifically of the november p summit and ukraine's plans. he took the cars confirmation connected to the 2nd summit. yes. because it was one of the points of the plan, a victory of ukraine delano, but a more oh, great. meanwhile, the kremlin has been playing down the incursion, saying it has failed to stop russia's drive to break through an eastern ukraine. you, people, especially in the curse region, are going through difficult times. but the main task that the enemies set for themselves to stop are offensive and the don't basketball didn't achieve it ultimately with nationalist opening. and then by say,
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we didn't start yet. therefore i'm sure that this provocation will fail as needed. firstly, i think after that there will be a desire really to move to piece talk slower, not in words, but an actions and resolve these issues by peaceful means and the age of a person. you have any mysterious thing. it's not clear if keeps gamble to take russian territory will pay off in peace talks this fall or provoked putting to take even more severe measures as he tries to win the war at it. now like to extend a warm welcome to alexander share, but a ukrainian diplomat who works as ambassador to austria from 2014 to 2021 who joins us now from key. if it's difficult to start anywhere else other than in poll tava, i'd like to begin by asking your reaction to the russian strike there. oh, it's unfortunate lose the reality of your brain for the last 10 years rustic and
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choose wherever they want and strike wherever they want is whether it's a children's hospital or college or or shopping center. and so we cannot use the provide provided by with the me styles even to strike the it's a very surreal kinds of war. and we definitely need to this freedom to really strike where it's hard for us the most in the military against the military target. unfortunately, until now we don't sell this loans plus of course it's still don't have the taurus so me, so from germany, which we do expect. so, just to be clear on how we were thinking about this, do you think that the slightest attack by russia, do you view this as a reaction to ukraine's incursion into the course region?
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wherever someone says something like this, i just by, i'm speechless because your brain has been invaded to kill to rapes tortured. so they had to go straight to switzerland house years. and now in the 3rd year of this war, we finally grew up towards the russian territory. and told us, um that people on the west say, well this is the resolution for what you the, what we, we did, what we did, because for 2 and a half years, this absolutely insane, barbaric war was brought slower to a 3rd file. we, we are responding in guns, so at least the source of rapid smoking kind because we don't freight, we don't do much of, we will even give you those to the children's hospitals. but yes, we in the territory, and this will take them a while to the reason. so this is a, not in any way to suggest that this was a deserved or fair response,
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but my question would be if, if you see such deadly strikes in response. whether tactics like going into course are worth it. if you're going, if it's going to come at the cost of so many ukrainian lives, it's more than the response please to repeating these lines from russian for, for again. but it's not for me. well, we have been killed, we've helped, well, the lot was really, really of dreams and blood for 20 years old or something. we answered the territory and it's the response of some of the responses support the strip reduce, the keels or young people are best to help us except versus the blue lights or something that we use answer it's fine. really answers the course slope was. it's just, it's not the response to just the logical, a very long overdue step on the record. now, as you've mentioned, zalinski again says that this moment really shows why he needs more air defense
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systems and missiles and fewer restrictions on the weapons that ukraine already does. have why do you think at this stage of the war he is still needing to make these please? because we have to believe for everything with our wisdom, how large because we saw things certain list of the springs to defend ourselves and to win this war. and each time we have to we, we, it's with our allies for some reason. i don't know what, well, maybe i know because the, with the social security because because of the color just so there was something good of a problem. you covered this on the but please do it, sir, because there is no other way buffalo going to win the war or for the whole of yours to lose and your experience as a diplomat. do you think there is something the less he could do beyond leading
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don't pointing to the mounting casualties in order to make this case, to western leaders. so there is this insane. so you should have gone through the biggest country in the world, that is a who this role was a mazda taurus, room, 2 and a half years. what can we do? we can do only defending ourselves and find maybe if you, if the western leaders have some ideas, how to or how to restore one to the how to read back, which is now please share with us. but we, we do as much as we can, ma'am, to, i think we are doing our soldiers so military and miracles and including him, people deserve. and the reason i'm not reproach for you know, or acting like we did so i can course go list, it was a courageous. all right,
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sounds very much what we're just step as lensky is planning a trip to washington. sometime in the future. do you think that should now be his immediate priority? well, we'll know what, so the biggest priority will be yes. so the, um, the, the additional systems uh saying go to jo hungry i think today, uh, the glitch or at least the gates understand the 6 more hours, the system's a little the provider to grant. this is amazing and we want the same drumming for that. but also finally, we cannot find this war was was and then behind the we have to strike the air feels we have to strike the military bases. it's kind of go on like this is just as soon, so i'm saying the drastic and re wherever they want. and the week i'm on the so
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within 550 kilometers radius from uh, hold on. thank you so much for joining us today on dw news, that is all it's under share about a former you crated ambassador to austria. we very much appreciate your time. the the, or you crane and the your opinion have criticized mongolia for hosting russia's president vladimir putin, just by being a member of the international criminal court. mongolia did not arrest bruton on a warrant for alleged war crimes. the court itself has no power to enforce the order or red carpet. welcome for vladimir putin. in the mongolian capital, ignoring international calls to arrest the russian leader, mongolia is president, will not be hurried. shoak, who invited pretend instead, pledge to strengthen ties with russia. with mongolia is committed to
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expanding and developing its cooperation with neighboring russia within the framework of an independent open and multi pill of foreign policy. that values pace to do a democracy. for more than 3 decades, mongolia has built friendly relations with other nations, including the united states in germany. but it is still heavily dependent on its neighbor, russia, especially even though it's a numerous russia is one of them go to is main foreign economic partners. i'm going to use, i did remain in the 1st 7 months of this year. trade turnover has increased by over 21 percent and that will, but it's in a small group of protesters gathered to voice their off as ition to the visit it as persons 1st to member country if their international criminal court. since that issued a warrant for his arrest last year, the court accuse is putin of being responsible for the abductions of ukrainian
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children. as a member of the i, c. c. long goal is obliged to arrest pollution. but the court itself cannot enforce this mongolia, as an action has sparked international concern. that again is probably this is yet another example of another correct in the system based on international law, it 8 o'clock. but the question is how this affects the rest of the world. order new mustang for sound, for me, it seems dangerous and ethical we. this is totally unacceptable. and like the way nivia has expressed its resentments owing to the representatives of the men, goalie and government, regardless of literacy. and despite the mounting criticism, mongolia, land locked between china and russia and reliant on moscow for energy, believes it has to maintain ties with russia to survive, and do the use surface. that's an ascii, joins me from rico,
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where dw is been operating since russian authorities closed down our mosque out bureau. i helped set the scene for us here. why did put in go to mongolia in the 1st place? both russia, it is of course, some sort of publication. a propaganda moved and determined that the intention here could be, that could be to show that pushing is not isolated in even the countries that are parties to the rooms that you the welcoming him. and what russia actually wants to show here was this move. we can maybe read the telecom channel of mid term of the video, who is the chairman of the security council of russia. he called the international court of uh, criminal court, then the, the rome statute, legally void and quote, allows the piece of paper. so russian propaganda is using this situation to show that the i c, c. a rulings don't matter which as they think would also mean that which is not
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their work criminal. and he's not really actually responsible for the unlawful deportation of children from occupied ukrainian territories. but one goal, it is a member of the international criminal court from their perspective. why do you think they did not arrest him? the yeah, 1st of all, we know from, from the president of south africa that the trimmed and threatened this country with the declaration of war itself, south africa, were to and to arrest button. and this is a, i guess the least the that's not my goal. it and i'll go it needs now and uh, what's also worth mentioning is the prime minister of mongolia and sad western sanctions against russia and the negative impact on his country. and the, the damage sure ranges from complications in paying the russian companies to the loss of revenues of the, from airlines that used to fly over the country. and talking about what my goal
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esick would get out of this meeting. so before, before his visit to mongolia, blood and importance gave an interview to anne, go a newspaper, and she said, a mongolia will have the right to use cheap gas from a pipeline. that's a, that's going to run from russia to china through the territory old mongolia. and previously, mongolia only wanted to play a transit role in the role in this project. but the now, it seems that the country is interested in buying cheap gas from russia. thank you . so much for that update that is dw service. i turn off ski or breaking up the boys club in brussels. well, the 1st woman to leave the you commission president or so a fond line is pushing for gender parity. she wants an equal number of men and
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women in her team of commissioners, but seems to have fallen short as she begins her 2nd term. she had asked all of the use member countries to nominate both a man and a woman for her to choose from. as she fills various top drops, but since countries don't legally have to do that, well, many of them haven't done it. i mean, it's underlying it now look set to have fewer women leaders in her commission in her 2nd term. then she did in her 1st, above the majority necessary majority. this time it's 41. and to talk more about this, we have uh dw brussels correspondent, rosie birch are here with me in the studio for a change. get to see you at here in berlin, rosie. let's start with my 1st big question at our members. they've actually going to comply with this. what was nuclear? this is o n. a one is, is told me about in brussels, decided because so far is being present. residing nope, to this request from are some of underlining the context here is we had blog quite you repeat elections earlier this year. i'm not triggers a big changing of the guard in brussels and know it's time for the european
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commission to start. it seems like, well that's the institution that is in the driving seat for o e u loss i. what comes next in terms of best? if you go 1st level under like trying to fill those jobs and it becomes a real joyful for influence because officially, once a year, if the commissioner is in office, they no longer represent their member state. but you can fax, these 27 national governments are vying to get the most powerful jobs they've so far given a raft of reasons or somebody say excuses of why most have not put forward a women some say look, this is just uh they had, it wasn't before or they're highlighting the person they think is the most of the right from the goals that they look for. however, it's important, know if there are some others that he said here, for example, sometimes member states or even c as trying to nominate someone they want to kind of banish as a political arrival. so all sorts of things go into these divisions. you can just imagine the politics going on behind the scenes here. but how important is it really, who actually holds these top jobs?
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well, the important thing is that some jobs are more powerful than others. and that's why you get this kind of condition of a, of a child support here. so for example, if your trade commissioner, you are absolutely in the driving seat for brokering trade there deals for the entire year if you're a lawyer. but your opinion tried to diversify away from china. that means it needs to straighten your trade deals, trade commission, it would be in the driving seat for that. the person who is responsible for technology would be looking at writing the rules for how to regulate artificial intelligence in the future. that kind of rules might start in the e you've, it tends to trickle tied to the rest of the world. culture that with, for example, education, you has basically no low making power there. it's entirely in the hands of member states. so if you are in and you government, that's a job you might want to avoid if you're trying to really make sure you have inputs in brussels today. are you talking for the top job? i guess some are thing though, that you know, the top the box, the top 3 jobs they are going to be held by women already. isn't that enough? why go all the way to make sure that there's full gender parity as wonderland trying to do? yeah, that's obviously an argument i've heard in some precinct rooms,
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pine close doors and some beautiful not saying look, we have not this time, right. more women in dumb, but some of the most high profile jobs are sort of underlined herself, but also the present of the european parliament and the person who is responsible for foreign policy in the you. that's a suggestion to say, look, if we have some of the influence concentrated at the top, is it so important to have 5050 here? the argument against that that we're hearing from some competitors is, is really so difficult to find a woman, a highly qualified woman to put on your ticket for members are just not going far enough. but apparently apparently it has been for 100 line. at least you think she has a chance of actually making this happen with some so far, her request was very clear and it has not been answered, but it is absolutely not a done deal. this is all done behind closed doors, and you can bet that right now she's trying to move a maneuver this a bit. so for example, she could suggest to some national girlfriends, governments, they might get a more sub jobs. he is more powerful if you would put
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a woman forward that something, but of this like happens entirely behind closed doors and then all of her college. that's kind of like a cabinet. so these commissioners are a bit like national ministers, bagels therapy, parliament's being voted, approved or not. so in some case, some wish to kind of let the parliamentarians do a bit of a dirty work for her. they might try and flex the political muscles and say, no, we're not approving this person or not personally, we don't think they're highly qualified enough. so it's not, it's until we don't know where it's going to loans yet. in terms of who are in these top jobs, so a little bit of a good cop bad cop routine there. i'm seriously at the national level when they are choosing people for these jobs. is it, is it the same across countries or how do they decide which man and woman? ideally, one of each has underlined once they're going to put forward. so there is no rule book on this, and that's what makes it so interesting to see who comes from where. so for example, earth level and light is german. so in weight, germany doesn't really have a token despite here, right? she is, her position is secure, sometimes it's part of
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a coalition deal that's caught between different parties, international government, sometimes it might be something which has been decided long ago. sometimes it's a minister who is highly qualified for a certain job. for example, if they know they would like the trade show, if they might put forward a minister who's been responsible for economy in the past, it's up to member states. sometimes it might be by a government who is going about to face re election and likely to fail there. so really there's that can also come into it in terms of who's going to be your space in brussels for the next 5 years, even though they've said they're not officially representative the member states, they become part of the european commission. that's the use executive. so aside from the fact that there's a tremendous smoke going on behind the scenes in brussels, when you look at this push for gender parity, what do you think this shows to europe and the rest of the world? clear? i cover a lot of big political summits and what you often get in these events is a big family photo. so all the leaders of the prime minister,
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counsellors and so on will stands in the light and it's striking to meet every time it's mostly men. yes. as you might see, a pop of, of color to move in, in the wearing the suit or dress, but you said, all right, so there she is tucked in there. the european commission, which is again, normally they said by the member states was a different story. not facing direct election, so going away from what we've seen before. so a commission which has fewer women in future might be seen by some as a really bad look. that being said, are some of the underlying herself, is often seen as one of the most powerful women in the world because she and she'll stay and post. well, thank you so much. that's rosie bar charts. and that is the day. thank you so much for joining us. you can follow us on social media as dw near the
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