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tv   Close up  Deutsche Welle  September 4, 2024 7:30pm-8:01pm CEST

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maybe with ohio to someone i can practice for you and someone. i can probably even judy higher, it won't be fun for the, the one of the but a lot of you looking forward happy can. you can keep it. i know the these women men and goals come from venezuela and home doors that trying to enter the united states. the move, this tends, let's do you know where you're going in, who the kind of, i mean the road isn't finished. there's a way through over there, but not if there's police
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there's a small by the river where the woofers darker cross right of that drove . let's go to the next place. they want to get across as quickly as possible. 2 days ago a group was beaten and dropped by on demand of this very spokes. wednesday. no one knows anything to say when there isn't even a bridge. that is one side of the room. that's very fine. yeah, very fine. i could hear you so okay, let's try it over there. okay. yeah, yes. it's quiet. i know not the
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the, the on the other side of the rio grande, a lies the united states of 2 weeks of traveling. they managed to cross illegally it's just a handful of people today. but it's no so waste, like that's the
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in the winter of 20232024. that was chaos. the border between mexico and the us making lines of women and men carrying children in their arms, making their way across the border. which is going to work to pay taxes and send money back to our families and venezuela. they're dying of hunger as well. the we don't want to do anyone any harm, just want a future. like there's nothing for us at home at the peak of the crisis, up to $10000.00 people across the board that each day the we've been on the road for a month now. it's held in march 2024 scuffles broke out at the board to like here in el paso, in texas,
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nor enforcement seems completely overwhelmed. the whole story. cheese estimate that some 2000000 people enter the us illegally each year in 2023. it was a record breaking to plank full 1000000. some regard that as an invasion and blame the bite and administration. others say it's due to the growing security crisis in south and central america and elsewhere. but one thing is, a few months before us voters go to the polls. the boat is a big issue in the election campaign. the in a town close to san diego in california. the candidate so trying to woo potentials i to you, i have some way in
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move and the americans will be voting for members of congress as well as a new president bill wells is funding for the republicans. hey, kyle. hey bill, how you doing? i remember the aims to become a senate 10th grade that many times my wife betty, thanks for the some of the candidates have to fund the campaign from private to nations. everyone is expected to dig deep into that pockets this evening before the speeches and debates kick off. everyone. the thank you all for be your i'm so excited to hear tonight. it means like you can
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cross out. the big question right now is the board. the board is that control was 20000000 people coming across the board, or both of them. we don't know who there are, why they're here. what's a good to do? and believe me, the repercussions from what we seen in the last 3 years will last for the rest of our lifetimes. and we've got to deal with that. but the 1st thing we have to do is stop the flow of illegal immigrants come here to our to ensure we have to do it right away and we don't have very much time left. we need to do it. and this will watch the number of 20000000 illegal code across things cannot be verified, but the people here are convinced by the election page. joe biden has said anybody can come and there's absolutely no waiting period whatsoever. it takes actually 5 minutes to come in and fill out some paperwork and it'd be released. and that makes people feel like they're gonna take away their borders, their language,
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their culture, and we're going to lose the ask them. so what makes america america? between souvenirs, snapshots and free coat tails. the boot, the problem is what everyone's talking about. most people have support donald trump, right down the line. they run scared. i think donald trump recognize the problem many years ago, or any tap right into what everybody knew. and so i'm of, i'm a very big america 1st republican. i don't like republicans that allow the other side that always surrender. so i like in america 1st, lamesa, 1st republican, it's all about us. our family 1st before it's about outside of the republican candidate has managed to drum up quite a lot of support at the event dollars and votes. his anti immigration line had come, the hot springs in southern california,
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not far from the mexican border in this corner of the united states, which seems that the end of the world. many people regard migrants who cross it legally. no, says criminals, but says people in need so like over a 150 people in moves a lot or ask for can chat a little uh, all right. uh, yeah, by gabriella. and sam quick has a religious amazement that advocates a simple knife and showing generosity and compassion towards others that parts of an initiative that collects money and food and distributes the donations among the people regularly arriving and then neighborhoods. my motivations are very straightforward, humanitarian, they are women and children sitting in the dirt with no water and no food, no shelter. and that's the end of the story. to me. i don't support or not support
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migration on any level at all. it's just, i don't like to see people in the and use a very need tell you that i am myself an immigrant. so, i will come all the immigrants, because i know how hard it is to, to be able to, to job, to, to take foot, to, to be accepted to, to be left gabriella had told us before hand, that token politics was off limits, which we accepted that sam was less restrained, of the policy is the wealthy people in this country that control this country. the majority of
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those people want there to be cheap, illegal labor in the united states. they want this, so it continues to happen because nothing happens in the united states without the wealthy people riding off on it. now if they want it to stop, for some reason, they will stop and tell them the politics of donald trump and joe biden, and all of that is just blah, blah, blah. by john, by the a few. com is away lines. news and make shift come. some $100.00 people arrived during the night, gabriella gives food to the women fast. oh,
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my gosh, if you want you don't have enough for all the people. this is a lot what we have today. the haven't seen in months so many from or over the road . as you see, syria, you have city. i agree with tamala. then. uh, columbia for the door. yes, yes, yeah. and pedal. so everybody indian now let me know harris. i understand people from america, they are scared to, you know, i mean it's, there's this mass mass on people coming in. i, i, i don't condemn anyone who says anything. you see this is old. it's of course,
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it's in motion and it is fear, you know, will not be there to set that 3 days ago this camp was practically empty. in the mornings. 2 days ago we had about a 110 deep volt today we have about a 130 people. and it's obviously building up here again. why a total control by what's happening on the mexican side of the border. and now we have no control over that. there's mexican law enforcement cartel activity. you name it and impossible to really know what's gonna happen until it happens. some a comp into by trade, who's built some shelters under water tank because migrants keep countering here.
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this is just a few kilometers away from a mountainous region where the border will ends and it's easy it across all this is a formation cheat about what we know always going to happen is the contact information that they get separated from their families. basically, a little bit of a rundown about what's going to happen to them in the next, well they're being who and as the people here want to applying for political asylum, united states school, the patrol of taking them to a detention center for interview of to with some of them will be deported, others will be summons to appear before a judge. this process can take a yeah. during this time, the free to remain at liberty in the us, the
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under donald trump, the mood was very different. the billionaire and then president pledged that he would make the border with mexico, which stretches across more than 3000 kilometers impenetrable rights of to taking office. he announced plans for border will costing millions of dollars and a tightening of security measures then cove. it came along and served as a pretext for systematic deportations. also for assign them, see cuz, but the legal crossing is continued as mexican people smugglers so called clear cheese come from. tia used to be one of them. he helped hundreds of illegal migrants into the united states, and particularly during donald trump's presidency, is those and so he tightened up the law law. he kept tone extending the wall from us, and he said he was going to port all mexican migrants. and that's what i'm saying, this is done. i think it's one of the only was more difficult to smuggle migrants over the border. the simplest of all that increased surveillance,
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a subdivision level, and obviously last year, the interest, it was, the growth things were more difficult and we didn't get into your what every single tie goes to a whole load of people across they jumped over the wall by the canal sand for the airport. more or less anywhere. we shot this footage in 2019 during donald trump's time, you know, face in the area where you used to work the the, the
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issue. it's always possible to get to right in border control somehow and get the migrants across the way. this policy was just a lot of hold here waiting. a mazda secret more trumps policy. see, yes, you didn't have any real results and i see really didn't have any impact. so, but, well, i suppose it did to implicate the result in and so it was that we, people smugglers, raised our price is, is we have some migrants for more money when the window guessing you is that was the only thing that worked out well. no, no one is an endless story, but i don't know what is the one that won't stop on that one? uh, 48 not but it even has to be a rec, so tower there. a huge wall but people over but somehow there's 2 sides. and yet
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the nicest people smugglers, antonio's knife has changed in recent years. not because of us politics, but because of the drug cartels controlling as the area is now in the hands, the people smugglers can only work with the say. so. and of course, to give them huff their writings who pay a much higher price than oh yeah, no, no. yeah, the him for the men from the car to hell came and made them disappear. as i said, i cannot afford to be seen by them with you. the number of them are everywhere. ok, and then solve this place. they've got scaling, so they keep an eye on everyone. lumpkin petals, he didn't begin. nbc lender blows and thought so they can keep people smuggling under their control. but that's just on the level. well, no, i mean that i feel better than others. don't say police, some of those don't get it. there's something we wanted to stop and both the motor, again, the case is,
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is mostly we're too afraid of them. turning off at our doors and doing something to our families and submit that glowing at the thing out. mm. yeah. last time can throw in some say, others kept telling people smuggling, i know it doesn't get to them, but i also know the next thing you know, they're dead is going the 1st battle in the long island. and then all that in the paper and their bodies on the spot for threw them into the canal, the open that the, the texas board, a town of ego pulse hit. the headlines this year. the states republican governor greg abbott is a loyal trumps to pull to a slate res, hawaiian, and deployed to texas national guard troops to stop illegal crossings that fled to considerable tension between the federal government. the state board of control is meant to be a federal matter, but the government refuses to give it a group of
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activists from an organization called witness the buddha staged a symbolic protest in mexico. the just gets, gets a picture of them flying over the bridge. perfect, just reuben, the organizations to has come. he especially from new york. here we are in mexico. we would be in the united states if we could, the but they blocked it off over there. so we can even get to the order that were setting up it looks like it's moving toward some sort of a major crisis because of the kinds of things that he's doing here. taking over the
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function from the federal government and really getting it to the state. looks like what happens at the beginning of a federation this fully report. so it has that order and it worries people, worries people in a political level. what i'm worried about mostly though is just the general fate of people who have to move from the place. there's a crisis of the crisis has to do with the world in survival, this crowd have coming this climate change. there are all these things that are happening, political changes, criminal elements, all these things that threaten people and what people do when that happens as they move, they get off and they say, i can't expose my children to this anymore. i can't expose myself to this anymore. i've got to go somewhere i can make a living. and this wire under the surface of the water of this river, that's what's keeping people from his anger at the republican governor of texas shed by one nita martinez. the chatter of the eagle pos democratic policy is very much opposed to the policies of greg
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abbott's. she takes us into the basement of policy headquarters. and you can see we have some of our signs here that are ready for the next demonstration. my friends have human rights and border communities. they don't trust, stab it, we must come out in droves and both democrats and november just to give him a message. so this is our fight and we're going to fight it all the way. there is no other issue that they can run on except this scaring people into thinking that we're getting over run by emma grants. and that's the only issue they have the rhetoric that the republicans are putting out is that it's an invasion. there are too many coming. when the truth is quite the opposite. we mean more
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immigrants to come and work a bite in the settings. record number of people that have been employed and the jobs are here, and we do need the u. s. economy is on the upswing with accelerated gross and low unemployment figures. and all the numbers of illegal crossings have been dropping since march 2024. with lyman's says that he's worried about his country. regularly, the physiotherapist and trump signed takes time off to shoot. you records for buddha hawk, his brothers websites, the use video reports which often crosses over to the other side of the rio grande, a, to mexico, the today, he's meeting a frame gonzalez,
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a mexican generalist for less than yours. when us a wire frame, you're saying the water is very low in the rio, so it makes it very easy to cross. the 2 men work together regularly, that report stuff and run on fox news of this idea the river. but this is the real, the so as you can see behind me, there's still quite a bit of clothing this part of the rio field. his manners is over the top of the camera. over the top. my head is going to be eagle pass is very close, very easy to access in december 2023, a frame. shut a very interesting scene. it showed us food, a patrol, a federal agency, helping migrants cross the border,
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the video here. so how the, what are the use use the machinery. the certainly tractor rice, the bird boy, you're allowed to hundreds of maintenance to gross legal bus. now texas is trying to erect this to prevent people from crossing the federal government will say, oh, this is in the way of us doing our job, texas will say was protecting our border. so this is a perfect description and a narrative that a frame was able to capture to show the clash between what the state is doing and what the federal government is doing. and that was on perfect display here that are free was able to capture. it's made the texas governor all the more determined not to remove the raise a wire, despite pressure from the federal government. donald trump has repeatedly lent him his opponents every
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evening with edits, footage, football, the whole these are the people trying to avoid border patrol the website is attracting more and more subscribers a head to the elections. i think that people are caring about it now because it's the worst it's ever been. the current administration has allowed close to 10000000 people to come across our borders and have encounters. and that's the number that we know that number is likely much higher. closer to 15, possibly 20 by some estimates. i believe that if we don't slow this process to some degree and then our nation would certainly be in trouble. so people, i think put 2 and 2 together, a busy administration. not only not blocking this, but are these facilitating it to the degree and they're waking up to that in our election year, hopefully, hopefully making
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a change going forwards. 1500 kilometers away on the mexican side of the border lies the town of missy con. it's cultural center is less than 50 meters from the board of the posts governance way has what to you as an all kind of vist and historian for such 2 years now he likes to say that the history of migration is everyday life for him and he's most exaggerating, so let me open the window. then you can see what we see every day. the, the, the biggest, the, something me, i saw people going, i have the account it with my smart phone and they have one, either the local move. it took a about 30 seconds for them to get out of the unloading, just as simple as that. so so what i'm done with
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this as a human being cut or there are those who set up the letter use on those people and then like i live in a very agile, sporty man, climbs up and over. so when it starts running to more. yeah, he gets a grocer. he got a lot that and while he's being changed, the migrants climb over or you look them in dialogue and like many border residents, oscar has lived through numerous migration crises over the decades. he doesn't think the current crisis is more worrying than the others. he thinks it's all about politics, impulses, the so flu, quasi light is but as low as of migration or a regular domain that i used to say, but sometimes they rise and others, they fall sole is going to be my they allow me to get. i see what is new is the way illegal immigration has been instrumental lives in recent us elections because i'm not there. maybe maybe you can do that over. that is how did the donald trump
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describe the migrants? it will be lease up should be most definitely bloom and then i got criminals will generate that levels when you get on this murder, when they have your level as people with diseases, have you ever used the see? they say me being they, they all the, all, we've never seen this degree of hate with the same of racism before on this, but people know most heavy are based. i see right now. another paradox made in the us. the united states of america was built over centuries by migrants from all over the world. now migrant. so what many people here see, i'm most hate distrust and fear could decide the upcoming elections in those and the living in
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