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changing rapidly and so called gemini is folding further behind in terms of competitiveness. yeah, but they get to me from what i've heard. 30 percent of employees here will be fired in the near future. i'm excited. the young people are scared of losing their homes of being fired. i've been working at this plant for 38 years. uh, quite so long is not successful in this turn around, then the existence of the whole company using data also on the day should students be banned from having phones in school. well, francis trying it out and one study here in germany suggests it could help students wellbeing. i'm sure you have your own thoughts will call up an expert for hers, which is yeah, as long as i can reach him when he's on the road to find out where he's at the bonds, no problem for me. it's reassuring his phone won't get stolen or lost,

just welcome germany. it's a by word for car manufacturing. but today, volkswagen has issued a warning that has people wondering whether it has reached the end of the road as an industrial powerhouse at a special meeting of the work force that is headquarters. vw executives told employees that the company may have to close factories in germany if it's to survive a huge slump in car sales, a competition from chinese car makers and a failure to innovate electric car technology has left them chasing the pack. so what does that mean for made in germany? i will be speaking to a top german economist in just a moment. but 1st, this report on the day a german car manufacturing giants told his workers, there's trouble had of frustration and anger mocked this thoughts of the meeting. folks, while good management laid out his plans to scrap a job security agreement,

the company has had with his work is for us to use the sacrifice of the mood was very divided as a large division between the what council and the board. i've never seen that this bad and then whenever the works council speaks, they cheer and when the board speaks, there's boeing. i'm speaking with i was good. i just a moment because when people express themselves very clearly, it's like, yeah, they have fee is about the future. about the web council had some strong words to express. what exactly the fee is of the work is definitely there are people here who are worried about being fired with savannah. the job guarantee was supposed to vote in 22029. the leader of a v w work is counsel saves, then now getting ready for a fight to get on just a matter of holding onto locations, whatever the cost, right, and then realizing in the next few years to this, we're catch up with this again the for what we must also ensure that our company is profitable, and it has always been the case and the fast enough labor costs in germany are

higher than in any other country that we produce. this is nothing new, it's un under the non of will. we all see another 70 small years. the automotive sector is the most important economic engine here in germany. that's the message of works council had done you like have a look at the meeting today. she says that it starts log and begins cutting back jobs. entire communities will feel it. a c e o or lisa bloomberg has defended the moves, explaining the new competitors in europe and the challenging economic environment. putting pressure on the company's finances. folks loggins a shaft price as food and buy nearly a said in 5 years. increasing pressure on bloom to coats costs with cheap, but chinese brands already eating, interviewed, they'll be use market share. some say a strategic re think is required for bands using sales rep out to use the sales and even for the electric house they are producing in

china. there is a very, very hot price competition going on. let's call it the price will. so they folks buy them, needs to adjust on pricing here as well. that means losing money, work as a worry that's a mine has now being crossed. i thought they could pay you for the failure of management to keep up with the competition. and i'd like to welcome a cars student protests, k i n g is chief economist for germany. for more on this story. your thoughts on what is happening at v w. how damaging is best for the firm this long isn't happening. curzy. it's a combination of 4 colors, global factors, but also home make factor. so we, we know it already, almost 10 years ago we have the diesel scandal, and then the other company as so many other john automotive company. so they and they missed that new trend automotives. i think they in the initial day,

the loss and even the weight. and then we have to beat factor china. china used to be an extreme or still isn't strong, import and export market for folks in books. china has become able to actually prove to use a car themselves, same quality, no, a prizes. china is pretty run ahead when it comes to electric vehicles and not only in china, but no. china is also coming into the european markets. and this new competition is katie, also what is, who is timeframe for the volkswagen? and then on top of that we have the whole made the germs comic issues and that is a last in international competitiveness to little investments and infrastructure digitalization education. and this also is clearly eating the volkswagen. so multiple challenges here. volkswagens finance chief has said that it has one, maybe 2 years to turn things around. do you think it is possible to do something

like that in the amount of time? it's a full time is such a huge company and to turn things around a city is the it's very difficult a fault. so i'm as all of the john car manufacturers has started to catch up when it comes to electric vehicles. and there are still a long way to go, and i don't know whether it's actually possible finding again close the gap with chinese for uses or something. northern american producers to this something on all the time can tell how it these, these key needs to be challenged. i think we should face that the, the global automotive mazda simply change it as the armoire competitors current in the market. then before it is no longer dominated by on the germans players and a few others. but the market has become more crowded. so when you look at volkswagen, specifically, how much of this do you think was then missing the trend?

as you've said, versus something that all german automakers are going to be facing. it's wireless, it's something that really almost all the german car manufacturers are facing the, the difference perhaps is between fault and the others is that the font size is also pretty big in there in the lower price and middle price segment. while most other, john carmody fixtures are either in the, in the industry or segments and the premium st. but the, the normal traditional cars, the electric vehicles, is still something where others, other competitors have not really gotten into. so you could argue that uh, you know, kind of providing cars for the entire spectrum. the something that is going to possibly come in during, for folks on these days and such a broad and out of it. i mean, the bottom line here is that vw thinks it can't turn a profit, making cars under the current conditions in germany. what do you think that says

about the made in germany model? was it simply too expensive? this is actually my the most important thing. so say, dw is i call me the fault, i can actually sense, there's hardly any other company really, for the success of john and industry over the last 9 decades if you want. so. so what this story is telling us that for years of economic stagnation times. ready is also deteriorating international competitiveness to do something to an economy. they make investments and activities in this economy less attractive. so so, so therefore i think this should be a wake up call. now on the final wake up call after so many other wake up calls. also for jim policy makers, politicians to um, to re start investing and reforming so that the country can become again more

attractive whether this is actually that we still have to have is such a strong automotive power house. i don't know the world is also changing and an economic sources are changing. but in any case, we do need much more investments and we do need structural reforms in order to make the journey economy more competitive just again. and what would some of those reforms and investments be if the german government does that uptake? notice that this is a trouble in trend and wants to make germany an attractive place for multinational companies to operate. as i said, we do know them and the german government even brought up some of those with this growth initiatives. um they, they present it at the start the summer and what is it? it is a reduction offer offer seats. um, it could also be a temporary, it takes, that is could also be a longer term uh, energy price in order to,

to create certainty, uh for, for businesses. but also for consumers in terms offer energy provision and energy prices. it can be faster depreciation off investments in uh, in innovation and digitalization. it also will have to be more, some, some public investments in infrastructure in education. so these already quite a lot of this and the government is aware of that. as of this growth initiative actually takes many boxes. the only problem is that it currently takes many boxes with very little money. and i'm afraid that if we were to see a big breakthrough, it was, it also requires more money spent by the government to sound a little bit skeptical there. how likely do you think this has to happen under the cover current german government? this? well i think many, many years know this story. ready about the german budget and then and the cisco debt break and how difficult it was for the current government to actually agree on a budget for 2025. so i,

i don't see that there is very little room was in the current government to read each step up. and the fiscal stimulus person would also mean if they want to stick to the, to the constitutional desperate that they would have to save money elsewhere. so this indeed means i'm, i'm skeptical that we will see that would be physical package and don't get me wrong. 6 per package does not mean short term stimulus. cisco tech, this really means investments over a long time horizon. but, but given that there is the, there's ongoing tension with in the federal government right now i'm, i'm very honest and i don't see the breakthrough in joseph investment plans until the next elections in fall 2025. well, thank you so much for joining us. to share those insights has been really fascinating conversation conversation. as karsten jessica i, angie's chief economist for germany. it was very much appreciate your time. you're

welcome. thanks for having me. or ukraine's foreign minister is standing down. demitra cordova is one of your crimes . most recognizable faces on the international stage and his resignation is part of a wider reset. one that president of a lot of years west cases is vital heading into a nother winter in the war with russia. yeah, there's a little bit of problem, but as i have already mentioned, the reset of the government as well as many ministries. i am very grateful to the minister and the whole government team that worked for ukraine and ukrainians for 4 and a half years. and some for 5. now we need new energy today. and these steps are related only to the strengthening about states in different directions. international policy full are missing. that is not an exception because i don't know,

believe the blow much in the literature. or correspond to nick connelly and give has more on you ukrainian governments shake up here. we don't really understand why these ministers and these vice premier is in particular have being pushed out. felt like there was a kind of sheet with the kind of achievements and failures that was really explained to the ukrainian public as such as thoughts. other people seemingly keeping that jobs who have had a lot more criticism from civil society and from experts. but it does feel like pulling zalesky fields, it's time for new faces that you know, given we don't have any elections because it's full time. and that's something that you guys subject the most part agrees on there is need for change infinity of visuals and for new personalities. i see talk to the kind of experts, people who really follow kind of ukraine and governance closely looks and will say, actually the ministers make less of a difference than people in volume is lensky is kind of close a little bit informal advisors. people who don't officially have maybe government jobs. why do you know those people often enough have more influence to administer?

so maybe this actually would have that much an impact. you're looking for the next couple weeks and months. stone, you cranes that east russia is fighting to take the city of for crowds, a strategic target that lies on a key supply route for the ukranian army rushes recent advances in the area come as ukraine pushed across the border to take the city of soldier and about 1200 square kilometers of russian territory. but restaurant has been undeterred and it's pushed to win. holcroft creating a quote, extremely difficult situation as ukrainian president, the learners of landscape. can see this last week. meters at a time. russian troops had been advancing your paragraphs. they've already captured important ukrainian positions nearby. the situation is growing more and more critical. they're getting closer to the very strong defense lines around the poconos and stuff being built for

a long time. so it can defend against the city even against a much superior force. it's the last defensive about and well, the ukraine military's tough line of defense directly around paragraphs has been in place since 2014. the next lines are not nearly as strong. so as they can break through it, the glasgow, the russians will likely find it easier to advance further the terrain to the west . but for grove schofield, the paper is pretty much very flat open during and they're not so much defense position positions. so there is no force or peace line. the only thing what the requirements can do is the 5, the delaying action of the russians. if there is a multi coal in operational breakthrough, preventing that operational breakthrough is vital. progress is of great strategic importance as a logistics hub by road and rail. the routes to vital cities like doing that's

constant and ortho come, a tourist and the pro passed through it. but the russian army is pushing closer every day towards the graft. and an evacuation has been under way for weeks still, whether the russians can actually take the city military experts we spoke with. suggest it's not likely in the short term, at least they're a start to reach the hardening 6 lines. they actually might be happy to just shoot the city to ruins without tillery show that the re lines through that the rolled lines because that the grades the usability of the blue cross, cuz it looks nice. decal top. the latest russian defensive has been ongoing for many months. now. the russian army is seizing perhaps several 100 meters of ukrainian territory a day in the move towards the graft. whether the ukrainian military can put a stop to the advance is a matter to be decided in coming days. well, it's back to school time here in europe and france has been testing

a mobile phone band in hundreds of middle schools. it is part of what is being called a digital pause, a for school kids of several countries in europe are debating whether to band students from having smartphones while in school. if the trial is deemed a success, it could lead to a nation wide band next year. back to school will be different for tens of thousands of students and friends this fall. now they have to hand in their smartphones before they can head to class. when it's pretty well, we're experimenting to see whether it works the earlier we deal with the addiction to these funds that back to me for new sit friends is rolling out this experiment which it calls at digital pause, across the 180 middle schools. it's part of a move by frances government to limit the time children spend on screens over fears . it can hinder their development as well. students were already required to turn

off phones in class. now the devices will have to stay locked away for the entire duration of the school day, including during recess. so obviously the students used to being without their phones all day and teachers seem to live differently even during recess instead of being on the phone and follow up with. friends isn't the only country cracking down on phones and schools. the netherlands, greece and belgium have ruled out similar restrictions on smart devices. parents here said they were on board with the van. looks to one as long as i can reach him when he's on the road to find out where he's at the bonds. no problem for me. it's reassuring his phone won't get stolen or lost. friends is phone band experiment. comes the head of a possible plan to enforce that nationwide from 2025. so

who better to discuss this with then sarah rose a senior lecturer in developmental psychology at staff for sure university in the u . k. hello. so this is a conversation across so many countries just to start things off. how are things done in the u. k? are there restrictions on phones in schools? a? yes, there are. and so it's a type foss changing agenda really isn't to it. so since february this been, i'm a guidance in the you k, that phone should be not in schools, i should be bonds and schools. it's still down to individual schools, how they kind of impulse and develop a policy around finding mobile phones. so in some schools that might mean there's no phones on school premises, and children are expected to leave phones at home with parents and other schools that might mean that school was a 100 jane like we were just hearing about in front at the beginning of the school

day and not return until the end of the school day. and other schools that might simply mean that phones uh, so with children, but they should be never seen. i never heard of that would include in break times between lessons. so there is still some flexibility for schools in terms of how they choose to find things in schools, but the guidance is around finding findings here as well. and you know, some of that might be making as cool children, quite nervous to hear that that was going ahead. you have written though that simply banning phones that, that could be missing out on an opportunity. can you tell me what you meant by that? absolutely. so this is based on research that we did a couple of years ago when the variability of what schools did was much grace. and we spoke to children, i'm the parent together and we spoke to them about the views. i also that abuse on different kind of made buffering policies to schools. how does that time?

and we were really surprised how maturely children spoke about mobile phone use. and we're really surprising the strength of use that parents had that would not supportive a complete funds in schools, parents and such folks that things are really important for keep in contact with that child, but face at the end of the school, dry the beginning of the school day on that journey to and from school. but also while they were at school and there's a lot of schools around actually digital resilience and exposing children to risk and encouraging children to make mature, sensible decisions. and i think that allowing children to have a mobile phones on them. but having school policies and procedures in schools where we try and encourage children to not to use the phone when it's not appropriate,

but task. so have access to that. they could help pad them for real, the real world and the fact that digital technology phones are increasingly that we have to learn to manage these disruptions of core real world servers. very much to always, all on our phones aren't. we do have to ask you that they're there. there's a current study here in germany from the university of osborne. it shows that banning smartphones in schools actually increases the social wellbeing of students . are you surprised to hear that results? so i'm not surprised to have been a number of studies looking at wellbeing and of children in relation to my boss and bonds and to be honest about, she found quite conflicting results. some studies have found the actually fans kind of home children's well being at school that they have a level well being in situations where there are bands of this disease like the one

you mention in our book suggests the actually that can be beneficial. and then there's some studies in the middle that find really isn't seeming to have a must have impact on welding. i similar when we looked at things like educational obtainment as well. it seems that binding mobile phones can be beneficial. and maybe just some pupils that may be a slight, a low attaining people's pupils that maybe aren't doing quite so well at school. when we look over when we look at high achieving people, it doesn't seem to have the same effects. i think it's very easy to say we will find, find a school i think currently. and it's, it's a popular line that government choosing to take. but if we look at places such as canada and some areas of new york where bands being in place for much longer, there are now some instances or bands being with folks because she, they just citing design isn't the best rate fluids anymore. so just very briefly,

i'm afraid we're only just got about under a minute left, but in your view then you think probably some restrictions useful, but a complete band, not the way to go. absolutely. i think it depends on the school, the setting, the age of the children, the maturity, the children. but i think that it could provide a real opportunity to work with children and parents to engage them in meaningful conversations about responsible mobile phone use. so rather than a complete brand, thinking about engaging with people's having conversations about what's appropriate, what's most appropriate, and maybe even developing a policy together, which pupils really is going to be beneficial to them. okay. developing it with you closed it may make it easy for teachers to enforce all thank you so much for joining us today with those insights that is sarah rose a from a staff at your university in the u. k. we very much appreciate your time. you

and that is our show for now. thank you so much for watching. i'm glad. richardson in berlin for me in the whole team working behind the scenes. we're so glad you could join us the

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