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once did not identity meddling and us elections periods. and we've heard this before. but this week there's something new and unheard of coming from the russian president vladimir putin on thursday. he said that he wants come over here is to win the presidential election saying that he finds for a laughter, infectious teasing, trolling whatever puts in had in mind. who would ever believe him? certainly not. donald trump, i'm for golf berlin. this is the day the along with them. well, although he did announce the other day the much rather see biting as president function and we hope that he's more experienced, more predictable. he's an old school or politician. now he's us of, of race. but he recommended that one of his allies support high risk. so that's
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what we're going to do. we're going to support to what i think she has such an expressive and infectious last re sending love letters to dictate or i never have. i promise you ours will never do it. also it coming up to after almost 3 months of political paralysis of france has a new prime minister. since you ha, okay, we will strive to respond as much as we can defeat the challenges of the younger vote because of a suffering, the feelings of abandonment or something of injustice about doing that permeates fall too many of our cities have neighborhoods and we'll, we'll area sky, you know, companies with our viewers, what going cbs in the united states into all of you around the world. welcome. we'd
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begin the day with familiar echoes of us presidential elections passed. this week, the us justice department accused 2 employees of the russian state broadcaster artsy of trying to influence the outcome of the upcoming november presidential election. washington has charged 2 archie executives with money laundering, claiming the suspects, hired a us company to produce online content with the intent of swing the vote on thursday. moscow, and denied any meddling in any u. s. selections. after the 2016 election, us intelligence determine that russia had run a this information campaign to help them candidate donald trump and to hurt his been opponent, hillary clinton. archie is trying to play down this latest claim by washington today saying 3 things are certain in life, taxes, death, and claims of russian interference in us selections. soon some of us states
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will begin mailing ballots to voters out of the november election or mrs. and as in previous cycles, authorities, or warning of attempts by russia to influence voters, the white house says there's watching closely. obviously, people can have their own views about whether they're surprised or not, that russia might be trying to interfere in our election. but we're not taking it lightly, nobody's shrugging here, because it's that important to us just as departmental loans done wednesday, it was sanctioning employees of rush of state media company our t, including its editor in chief market. we just seem on you on washington as accusing our to you're paying a us based company to push videos on social media in line with the problems thinking defendants directed the company to contract with us based social media influencers to share this concept of their platforms. the subject matter and
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content of many of the videos, published by the company, were often consistent with russia's interest in amplifying us domestic divisions. after the 2016 campaign investigations found russia tried to spread this information with the aim of posting support for donald trump. one of the problems as the latest charges are part of what it says are which one. it is an obvious operation and information campaign that was long prepared. and that is needed as of the last stage of the elect, torrell cycle for us to officials and say russian hopper items are using increasingly sophisticated techniques to target specific bolder demographics in battle. ground states with posters predicting and now they're close to election. swing just enough voters could make all the difference. well, i'm doing now by brett schafer. he is the head of the alliance for securing democracies information manipulation team at the german marshall fund of the united
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states. for it has created an online open source dashboard to track the output of russian chinese. and the radian state and media outlets, he is the man to be talking to about this story. bread, it's good to have you with this tonight. let me ask you about these charges that have come out this week charges by the department of justice, money laundering. we brought to our 2 employees, allegedly hiring a us firm to produce online content to influence the presidential election. now this does not sound like a very sophisticated criminal operation. i'm wondering how to use it as well. it may not be sophisticated in terms of the tactics and techniques used in the efforts to hide their tracks. but it was relatively sophisticated in terms of the types of influencers that they were able to recruit. these were not fringy internet sort of personalities. these are pod cast or is content creators with huge
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following from us. we're talking people with youtube channels, with $5000000.00 plus followers in some cases. so it was quite sophisticated in terms of who they recruited and the type of platform that they were able to effectively build on us soil using us person to effectively longer potentially rushing this information into the us information space the these right wing influencers linked to the company allegedly being funded by russia include people such as many johnson tim pool and they've reuben, they claim that they were victims here that they didn't see what was happening. is that believable in your opinion? it actually is believable. and the indictment, i think, makes it relatively clear that at least the, those contract content creators, those contributors didn't actually know what was going on. now the people who were running the platform, they certainly did. if you read the indictment,
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it was quite clear that they knew there was russian involvement here, but the contributor is, it's not clear that they knew what was going on. that said, it is, there is evidence that they were specifically recruited. and so while they may not have been agents of russia while they may have been unwitting and as they were targeted for a specific reason. and one of those reasons is that at least some of them have in the past, sort of actively promoted rushing, talking points. in some cases, rushing disc information around ukraine, one of them it has denied russian atrocities and boots out for example. so there was a reason that these content creators were targeted, but they were victims at the same time. so i wanna ask you about hamilton 2.0, which is your online open source dashboard for tracking the output a for in state media outlets. what is hamilton revealing at the moment regarding ortiz content designed to put a some on the scale as of the next presidential election?
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where do you see r t was very, very quick to comment on that story. there was at least 3 or 4 stories that they published yesterday, that ridicule the indictments that ridiculed the sanctions. i mean, they were quite live in their response. and are these responses at this point are, are some what route we can predict, what they're going to do because they have these certain talking points and they talk about us have prophecy. and they have attempted to frame this as the us being effectively a to tell terry and state, trying to shut down and open information space. i mean, putting aside of course, the rushes, just important record about press freedoms. they've effectively said that what this is, is not rushing and malign influence and not russian interference. it is the us effectively trying to read their information space of opposing points of view. i mean, that's ridiculous, of course, but this is russia's line and an archie has puddled it for many years. now. if you were to ask people on the streets, particularly the united states,
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who does russia want to see when in november? you know, most people would give you the answer. donald trump, i mean, that's an assumption to do. we assume that simply because of the content that is being pumped on to online platforms by media outlets such as r t, as well the us intelligence community has been very, very clear about this. the russians obviously prefer trump. i mean there's, there's really no debate about this intelligence circles and basic logic would tell you that, i mean, you look at the policy positions of the 2 candidates. one has been very supportive of ukraine, the other less. so one is very supportive of nato. the other definitely less so, so it doesn't take really an intelligence assessment to understand who the russians would prefer. that being said, americans, other adversaries prefer other candidates. i mean, we know the iranians prefer carmella harris, so it shouldn't necessarily be used to slander the trump campaign. but it's quite
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clear who the russians prefer here, whatever comments putting they make that suggest otherwise. okay, and that brings me to what vladimir putin said this week. he officially, you could say that wait in on november's us presidential election by endorsing one of the candidates. but add an infectious laugh is apparently what it takes to get his support ticket. listen to what food instead of my should we have a criminal precedence and mr. biden as our favorites. but if i can coordinate that, but now he's being taken out of a race, he recommended that one of his allies support mrs. harris, and that this will be going to do is that we're going to support to would you, me a petition. now, this has been called tongue in cheek. guten, humor, teasing, trolling. you can describe it any way you want. what is, what am i putting? what is he trying to achieve there?
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well, i mean the comments were dripping with sarcasm, of course. but a lot of my putting is a former k g b agent. he understands how to manipulate americans and he knows that be throw something like this out there. there will be parts of the american media, there will be candidates who will take that line and run with it. and so we've already seen, of course, trump commenting on this today. and so he understands that throwing something like this out there will make this more of a politicized date. when the debate really should be about the fact russian was trying to interfere in an election, there shouldn't be a bi partisan. there should be bi partisan consensus if this is a problem, but he injects this sort of political commentary into this. and now of course, he's made this more of a partisan issue than it was going to be, you know, russian meddling and us elections. it's been on the public's radar ever since 2016 . in the online world that we inhabited in 2016. we know that it has changed
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dramatically. has the russian business of election meddling and has it kept up as well. they've had to change their operation, mainly because of the fact they're over at propaganda channels have either been shut down or been degraded. so our t america does not exist anymore on youtube are t cannot existed at least officially on other platforms. r t has been downgraded so in 2016 they could influence americans through over at propaganda channels. they can't do that. so all of their work right now needs to be more covert. and they, i think they've also learned that setting up a bunch of fictitious twitter accounts presenting themselves as americans is a hard way to build an audience. yes. some of those accounts that we're taking, but down by twitter, had so much sizable audiences. 20000, maybe 30000, but it was hard to get a real genuine american audience to follow them. so what they clearly did here was go after genuine americans who have sizable,
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real influential audiences and try to manipulate using those, those individuals and, or they're built in audience so. so what we've seen them is they've adjusted to our efforts to try to limit rushing the line influence. so they've clearly adapted over time. is there bread? is there a platform where you would say that they are, you know, getting maximum reach maximum penetration? i mean, is it tick tock, facebook, youtube? i mean, is there one platform where they really get a lot of bang for their buck? are they really diversified since 2016 to? i mean 2016. this was a twitter and a facebook operation. yes, r t was very prominent on youtube, but now you could list probably 80 different social media platforms where there has been evidence of russians running cobra at operations there. this includes things like gaming platforms, so it would be wrong to focus in on one specific platform because this is a multiple multiple platform operation. also because if they get caught on one
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platform, they need to have assets in place, other places. so they have targeted americans and basically every platform where americans are online themselves. and so we've really seen a diversification from what we saw in 2016. that includes things like tick tock, telegrams, but also friends year platforms that are less mainstream, faster than you talking with you. um the bread and you know, please come back again before the election and after the election. i'm sure there's going to be a lot to talk about. brett schaffer, head of the alliance for securing democracy's information manipulation team at the german marshall fund of the us spread. thank you. thank you. francis, president, emmanuel maryland has named me shelburn. yea, as his choice for prime minister some 2 months after backgrounds decision to call snap elections resulted in a parliament without a clear majority. the 73 year old barney a is
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a conservative politician whose served in previous french governments and was tasked by the european union with the leading breaks it negotiations with london. the far right national rally party, which holds the most seats in the lower house of parliament, says it is undecided whether or not to back barton you should or or are you going to bring in now corresponded colo stangler. he joins me from marcy and france to night cold. good to see you again. you know the story of the dysfunction, if you will, of french politics goes all the way back to this past june with the european elections that we have the snap elections in july. give us a sense of how difficult the task of forming a new government is going to be for this year. michelle barney was gonna find it very difficult, could take days. it could take weeks. the key kind of a deadline to have in mind or the,
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the key or key issue they're thinking about as was danye is able to figure out a government that he thinks is going to appeal to the national assembly. he's going to have to think of his beach before parliament, and at that point the question will be, is whatever bond his work is done, and in the meantime in those, and he's coming days and he's coming weeks, is that government going to be able to survive a motion of no confidence, that's kind of the big question here. and his government survive the opposition of half of the national services, 289 and peace. that's a big question. and we're going to see this being answered, you know, in part, at least over the coming days and weeks by the kinds of choices he makes for ministers. do we know what is it that barney has or has said, that makes a manual macro and think that this is the right man for this job right now. as quite, i think there are to simplify to 2 big reasons. one is vanya,
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someone who's well regarded by the french business establishment, also by the european political establishment to you. it's frances, in a particularly difficult, uh, economic situation right now they have a very important budget that they have to get approved a by the end of the year. and so by me, as soon as someone who's trusted by the business community, someone who is, is sort of a trusted him to, to, to continue my calls economic policies. and to make sure that that budget, i guess the approval also of, of, of the european union because france will overshot this is deficit last year. so france is actually in the, in the procedure for excessive deficit. according to the ease, there's a lot of pressure to have it, but i think that's one very important reason. the other one is that maxwell has made the calculation and this is a prime minister that's going to be able to, like i said with this. and that motion no confidence in a more particularly someone who's going to be able to appeal to the far right and
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national riley what smartphone decided that he was not going to name a prime minister that was going to win the support of the left. the fact so that meant he's on finding a prime minister that's going to be able to be at least tacitly supported tolerated by the far right. and i think that's the other big calculation here. bonnie and someone who's quite conservative, you know, ran for president with, with the right wing republican party talking about a moratorium and immigration. these seem to someone who is at least palatable to the national. right. i want you to think of this into something said by the french left wing leaders, young luc mailings on after news of microphones, announcement concerning bernie, a take a listen or not the actual, our reaction is not focused on the quality. so this pass and michelle bonnie: yeah, that is not the issue. the issue is that the president has just decided to officially denied the results of the elections that he himself cooled. remember,
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look, a cold does any of a point there and manual macro and called the vote 3 years early in the wake of his coalitions disastrous results in the european elections. meaning right wing parties, they don't have a majority. and yet a conservative is now the new prime minister. that doesn't seem very democratic, right? as well. you know, to, to, to be clear. um, you know, you look at the french constitution, my menu, my point, the president does not have an obligation to give him pretty sorry, isn't that he can name whatever prime minister he wants under defense constitution . he does have the constitutional prerogative. that's his. um, but what i think middle school is getting at is, you know, when you look at those elections that, that you referred to. um the last, when coalition the new popular from one up to a route, even though it's pretty evenly split among 3 blocks in the kronos deluxe in the far right. but the left had a poor rally. and so in countries that have more prominent parliamentary systems,
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you know, there's sometimes traditions in which you at least ask the party that has the most of those, the colors. and with the most of those to try to form a government maybe doesn't work, but at least give them the opportunity. and my whole repeatedly refused to let the new popular front that lock them in coalition. i have a prime minister of their choosing. so that's what matters sounds reacting to in part. and here's another bigger frustration that he's sort of tapping into, which is this idea of, at the pause you had french voters, majority of french voters voting either for centers, parties, or left wing parties against the far right. national riley, in this revival, what's called the republican front in france. and what we have now is a prime minister that in many respects is designed to, again, at least when the tacit support at least be tolerated by the far right. and for a lot of people, especially on the left, that makes some way of saying, i think we're seeing that in that reaction for promotional. so where does this leave then the far right national rally party,
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the will. will it be able to undermine and possibly the pro is born yet as well? you know, i think the 1st thing is is it right? we're at this step right now means that there are at least willing to to hear out of me said barton yes. that was not the case or other prime minister's names were floated by my called at the far right, the national route. i said no, no, no way. they're always willing to hear about money out. and that's what they've said. jordan, barna barnett the president of the national riley has said he wants to wait and hear that that inaugural speech of the new once he has the government to decide whether or not they're going to support a motion of no confidence or not. so right now they're at least open to the possibility. it's gonna depend on his cabinet. it's gonna depend on that speech here. so what about mr. barney's policies? i mean the world, if the world is familiar with him, they know him as the brakes. it negotiate or so beyond that mean, what changes will he try to make or what policies really pursue as prime minister?
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do we know? yeah it's, it's really hard to say, i think that number one priority, which i alluded to before, and that i think everyone's expecting him to, to, um, to deliver on is, is, is the passage of a budget that is able to be supported by the french business community and also supported by, by the european political establishment. that's what the don use. main priority is . i think at the end of a day, beyond that, you know, it becomes a little bit more of a certain you gave him some very brief remarks today. already talked about the importance of schools, immigration, national security jobs, but yeah, very, very vague. unclear. i think it's gonna depend on getting those choices that he makes is for his cabinet ministers. and we'll know more when he gets that big speech before parliament. and in the coming weeks corresponded cole stangler before an engine light from marston, france coal. as always, we appreciate your time and your reporting. thank you. thank you.
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it has been a day of mixed emotions for new zealand smell. re community the funeral of their king and the crowning of his daughter as the new queen. the 27 year old will be the 8th. mallory monarch and only the 2nd queen. huge crowds gathered to watch the new marie queen be anointed. no way, henry to pay his tanks by the coffin of his to the king too, had tier 2 titles for the day. at the age of 69. the king's youngest daughter at 27 years old represents a big generational shift for the amount of key. and it is hopes that active involvement to now re culture will have a positive influence on younger generations. to come around, we extremely happy that not why. one way to pull is an ukraine. she's the best
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person for the position and you'll see across everybody's faces. here we all agree . off to the new queen this morning, the funeral procession for her father begins. mallory laurie is really the coffin down the river before just kindly to its final resting place as the sign of the well to a king who was seen by many is the uniting force across new zealand. also quote altura in the memory language. c what he's done to united this many people across all territory 13 it's all i often um it's probably a really good sign of the legacy that he's lived here. um, everything is done um through monopoly turned off the respect 3 different through how to ha, through love the mary king movement with whom to strength and in unifying, married culture following versus colonized station in the 19th century. it has no
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legal mandate and its role is mostly ceremonial, but the monarchy carries cultural and often political significance to mary. and the scene is key to many a central to their identity. with the day continues online, you'll find this on x also known as twitter, youtube and dw news. you can follow me on social media at brent golf tv. and remember whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day. we'll see you then everybody the,
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to the, to lines strong opinions, clear positions, international perspective. alarm bells have been ringing and much of germany after a far right party won a regional election for the 1st time since the end of world works. here is the a f t success, a canary in the coal mine for the future of europe's largest economy. to the point was the next on d, w and mother who for to get more rights and i need to cation for his desk, child model, and paved way for others involved. he's done or not sure why should the,
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a significant risk of human extinction from advancing our system. our series continues to dw, the germany is reckoning, but the results of regional actions that have left many quest saying whether german history is rearing its ugly head. for the 1st time since not simple right wing extremists have won a regional election in germany in the state of the range of the amc or alternative for germany also came in 2nd place in neighboring, sadly, the other populace also snapped up both by promising to strong emigration and 2 strong arms deliveries to you. so what does this mean for the future of europe, the largest economy, and it's relation to the world this week on to the point we're looking at the rise of the far right? is germany at a tipping.

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