once did not identity meddling and us elections periods. and we've heard this before. but this week there's something new and unheard of coming from the russian president vladimir putin on thursday. he said that he wants come over here is to win the presidential election saying that he finds for a laughter, infectious, teasing, trolling whatever puts in had in mind. who would ever believe him? certainly not. donald trump, i'm for golf berlin. this is the day the along with him. well, although he did announce the other day that he'd much rather see biden as president function and we hope that he is more experienced, more predictable. he's an old school or politician. now he's us of a race. but he recommended that one of his allies support high risk. so that's what

we're going to do. we're going to support to what i think she has such an expressive and infectious last re sending love letters to dictate or i never have. i promise you from ours will never do it. also, it coming up to after almost 3 months of political paralysis of france has a new prime minister. since you have the headphone, we will strive to respond as much as we can defer to the challenges of the younger versions of a suffering, the feelings of abandonment or something of injustice about doing that. permeates far too many of our cities of neighborhoods and will, will area sky, you know, companies with our viewers. what going cbs in the united states into all of

you around the world. welcome. we begin the day with familiar echoes of us presidential elections passed this week. the us justice department accused to employees of the russian state broadcaster artsy of trying to influence the outcome of the upcoming november presidential election. washington has charged 2 archie executives with money laundering, claiming the suspects, hired a us company to produce online content with the intent of swing the vote on thursday. moscow, and denied any meddling in any us elections. after the 2016 election, us intelligence determine that russia had run a this information campaign to help them candidate donald trump and to hurt his been opponent, hillary clinton. while archie is trying to play down this latest claim by washington. today saying 3 things are certain in life, taxes, death, and claims of russian interference in us selections. soon some of us states

will begin mailing ballots to voters out of the november election were suddenly missing. and as in previous i goes, let's store these are warning of attempts by russia to influence voters. the white house says there's watching closely. obviously people can have their own views about whether they're surprised or not, that russian might be trying to interfere in our election. but we're not taking it lightly, nobody shrugging here, because it's that important to us just as department announced on wednesday, it was sanctioning employees of rush of state media company our t, including its editor in chief market. we just seem on washington as accusing our t of paying a us based company to push the videos on social media in line with the problems, thinking defendants directed the company to contract with us based social media influencers to share this concept of their platforms. the subject matter and

content of many of the videos, published by the company, were often consistent with russia's interest in amplifying us domestic divisions. after the 2016 campaign investigations found russia tried to spread this information with the aim of boosting support for donald trump. one of the problems as the latest charges are part of what it says are which one it is an obvious operation and information campaign that was long prepared. and that is needed at of the last stage of the elect, torrell cycle to us the officials and say russian hopper items are using increasingly sophisticated techniques to target specific boat or demographics and battle ground states with posters predicting and now they're close to election swing just enough voters could make all the difference. well, i'm doing now by brett schafer. he is the head of the alliance for securing democracies information manipulation team at the german marshall fund of the united

states. for it has created an online open source dashboard to track the output of russian chinese and the reigning state media outlets. he is the man to be talking to about this story. bread. it's good to have you with this tonight, let me ask you about these charges that have come out this week charges by the department of justice, money laundering. we brought to our 2 employees, allegedly hiring a us firm to produce online content to influence the presidential election. now this does not sound like a very sophisticated criminal operation. i'm wondering how did you see it as well? it may not be sophisticated in terms of the tactics and techniques used in the efforts to hide their tracks, but it was relatively sophisticated in terms of the types of influencers that they were able to recruit. these were not frenzy internet sort of personalities. these

are pod cast or is content creators with huge following from us. we're talking people with youtube channels, with $5000000.00 plus followers in some cases. so it was quite sophisticated in terms of who they recruited and the type of platform that they were able to effectively build on us soil using us person to effectively longer potentially rushing this information into the us information space. the these of right wing influencers linked to the company, allegedly, being funded by russia include people such as benny johnson, tim pool, and dave reuben, they claimed that they were victims here, that they didn't see what was happening. is that believable in your opinion? it actually is believable. and the indictment i think makes it relatively clear that at least build those contract content creators. those contributors didn't actually know what was going on. now the people who were running the platform,

they certainly did. if you read the indictment, it was quite clear that they knew there was russian involvement here, but the contributor is, it's not clear that they knew what was going on. that said, it is, there is evidence that they were specifically recruited. and so while they may not have been agents of russia while they may have been unwitting in this, they were targeted for a specific reason. and one of those reasons is that at least some of them have in the past, sort of actively promoted rushing, talking points, in some cases rushing disinformation around ukraine. one of them has denied russian atrocities and boots out for example. so there was a reason that these content creators were targeted, but they were victims at the same time. so i wanna ask you about hamilton 2.0, which is your online open source dashboard for tracking the output of for and state media outlets. what is hamilton revealing at the moment regarding ortiz content designed to put a some on the scale as of the next presidential election?

i mean, what do you see? r t was very, very quick to comment on the story. there was at least 3 or 4 stories that they published yesterday, that ridicule the indictments that ridiculed sanctions. i mean, they were quite live in their response. and are these responses at this point or, or somebody wrote we, we can predict what they're going to do because they have the certain talking points. and they talked about us have policy. and they have attempted to frame this as the us being effectively a to tell terry and state, trying to shut down and open information space. i mean, putting aside of course, the rushes, just abhorrent record about press freedoms. they've effectively said that what this is, is not rushing and blind influence and not rushing interference. it is the us effectively trying to read their information space of opposing points of view. i mean, that's ridiculous, of course, but this is russia's line, an archie has peddled it for many years. now. if you were to ask people on the streets, particularly the united states,

who does russia want to see when in november? you know, most people will give you the answer. donald trump, i mean, that's an assumption. do we assume that simply because of the content that is being pumped on to online platforms by media outlets such as r t as well the us intelligence community has been very, very clear about this. the russians obviously prefer trump. i mean there's, there's really no debate about this intelligence circles and basic logic would tell you that, i mean, you look at the policy positions of the 2 candidates. one has been very supportive of ukraine, the other less. so one is very supportive of nato. the other definitely less so, so it doesn't take really an intelligence assessment to understand who the russians would prefer. that being said, americans, other adversaries prefer other candidates. i mean, we know the iranians prefer carmella harris, so it shouldn't necessarily be used to slander the trump campaign. but it's quite

clear who the russians prefer here. whatever comments putting they make that suggest otherwise. okay, and that brings me to what i'm going to be approved in said this week. he officially, you could say that a wait in on november's us presidential election by endorsing one of the candidates . but add an infectious laugh is apparently what it takes to get his support ticket . listen to what food instead of my should we have a criminal president, mr. biden, as our favorites, if i can coordinate that, but now he's being taken out of a race. he recommended that one of his allies support mrs. harris. and that is what we gave him to do is that we're going to support wouldn't be open. now this has been called tongue in cheek put in humor, teasing, trolling. you can describe it any way you want. what is bothering me putting what is he trying to achieve there?

well, i mean the comments were dripping with sarcasm, of course, but a lot of my put in is a former k g b agent. he understands how to manipulate americans and he knows that be throw something like this out there. there will be parts of the american media, there will be candidates who will take that line and run with it. and so we've already seen, of course, trump commenting on this today. and so he understands, but throwing something like this out there will make this more of a politicized date. when the debate really should be about the fact russian was trying to interfere in an election, there shouldn't be a bi partisan. there should be bi partisan consensus if this is a problem, but he injects this sort of political commentary into this. and now of course, he's made this more of a partisan issue than it was going to be, you know, russian meddling and us selections. it's been on the public's radar ever since 2016 . and the online world that we inhabited in 2016. we know that it has changed

dramatically. has the russian business of election meddling. it has it kept up as well. they've had to change their operation, mainly because of the fact they're overt propaganda. channels have either been shut down or been degraded. so r t america does not exist anymore. on youtube, r t cannot exist at at least officially. on other platforms r t has been downgraded. so in 2016 they could influence americans through over at propaganda channels. they can't do that. so all of their work right now needs to be more covert. and they, i think they've also learned that setting up a bunch of fictitious twitter accounts presenting themselves as americans is a hard way to build an audience. yes. some of those accounts that we're taking, but down by twitter, had so much sizable audience as 20000 maybe 30000. but it was hard to get a real genuine american audience to follow them. so what they clearly did here was go after genuine americans who have sizable,

real influential audiences and try to manipulate using those, those individuals and, or they're built in audience so. so what we've seen them is they've adjusted to our efforts to try to limit rushing the line influence. so they've clearly adapted over time. is there bread? is there a platform where you would say that they are, you know, getting maximum reach maximum penetration? i mean, is it tick tock, facebook, youtube? i mean, is there one platform where they really get a lot of bang for their buck? are they really diversified since 2016 to? i mean 2016. this was a twitter and a facebook operation. yes, r t was very prominent on youtube, but now you could list probably 80 different social media platforms where there has been evidence of russians running cobra at operations there. this includes things like gaming platforms, so it would be wrong to focus in on one specific platform because this is a multiple multiple platform operation. also because if they get caught on one

platform, they need to have assets in place, other places. so they have targeted americans and basically every platform where americans are online themselves. and so we've really seen a diversification from what we saw in 2016. that includes things like tick tock, telegrams, but also friends year platforms that are less mainstream. fascinating talking with you. um the bread and you know, please come back again before the election and after the election. i'm sure there's going to be a lot to talk about. brett shafer, head of the alliance for security democracy's information manipulation team at the german marshall fund of the us spread. thank you. thank you. frances president, emanuel mac, ron has named michelle barney a as his choice for prime minister some 2 months after background decisions. the call snap elections resulted in a parliament without a clear majority. the 73 year old barney a is

a conservative politician who's served in previous french governments and was tasked by the european union with the leading breaks it and negotiations with london. the far right national rally party, which holds the most seats in the lower house of parliament, says it is undecided whether or not to back martin yet we shouldn't. or are you going to bring in now corresponded colo stangler. he joins me from marcy and france to night cold. good to see you again. you know the story of the dysfunction, if you will, of french politics goes all the way back to this past june with the european elections. then we have the snap elections in july, give us a sense of how difficult the task of forming a new government is going to be for this year. michelle barney was gonna find it very difficult, could take days. it could take weeks. the key kind of a deadline i have in mind or that the keys are

a key issue. they're thinking about as once vanya is able to figure out a government that he thinks is going to appeal to the national assembly. he's going to have to give his beach before parliament, and at that point the question will be, is whatever tanya is work is done. and in the meantime, in those, and he's coming days and he's coming weeks, is that government going to be able to survive a motion of no confidence? that's kind of the big question here. and his government survive the opposition of half of, of the national services. 289 and peace. that's a big question. we're going to see this being answered, you know, in part, at least over the coming days and weeks by the kinds of choices he makes for for ministers. do we know what is it that barney has or has said, that makes a manual make wrong? think that this is the right man for this job right now. are quite, i think the are to simplify. to the 2 big reasons. one is vanya,

someone who's well regarded by the french business establishment, also by the european political establishment to you. it's frances, in a particularly difficult, uh, economic situation right now they have a very important budget that they have to get approved of by the end of the year. and so bottom, you've seen a someone who's trusted by the business community, someone who is sort of a trusted hand to, to, to continue my calls. you cannot make policies and to make sure that that budget, i guess the approval also of, of, of the european union because france will overshot this is deficit last year. so france is actually in the, in the procedure for excessive deficit. according to the ease, there's a lot of pressure to have it, but i think that's one very important reason. the other one is that maxwell has made the calculation. if this is a prime minister that's going to be able to, like i said, with stand that motion no confidence in a more particularly someone who's going to be able to appeal to the far right and

national riley once smartphone decided that he was not going to name, a prime minister that was going to win this a part of the left. the fact. so that meant he's on finding a prime minister that's going to be able to be at least tacitly supported tolerated by the far right. and i think that's the other big calculation here. bonnie: and someone who's quite conservative, you know, ran for president with, with the right wing republican party talking about a moratorium and immigration. he's seen as someone who is at least palatable to the national. right. i want you to think of this into something said by the french left wing leaders on luc mailings on after news of microphones. announcement concerning bernie, a. take a listen as not to the actual. our reaction is not focused on the qualities of this past. and michelle bon, yeah, that is not the issue. the issue is that the president has just decided to officially denied the results of the elections that he himself cooled. remember

cool. okay. cool. does any of a point there and manual medical and called the vote 3 years early in the wake of his coalition is disastrous results in the european elections mean right wing parties. they don't have a majority and yet a conservative is now the new prime minister. that doesn't seem very democratic, right? as well. you know, to, to, to be clear. um, you know, you look at the front constitution, my menu, my cause the president does not have an obligation to give him pretty sorry. yeah. you can name whatever prime minister he wants under the french constitution. he does have that constitutional prerogative. that's his. um, but what i think middle school is getting at is, you know, when you look at those elections that, that he referred to. um the last, when coalition, the new popular from one of the rowdy roads pretty evenly split among 3 blocks and my kronos the less than the far right. but the left had up to a reality. and so in countries that have more a prominent parliamentary systems,

you know, there's sometimes traditions in which you at least ask the party that has the most of those, the colors. and with the most of those to try to form a government maybe doesn't work. but at least give them the opportunity and my whole repeatedly refused to let the new popular front that lock them in coalition. i have a prime minister of their shoes and so that's what matters strong, reacting to in part. and here's another bigger frustration that he sort of tapping into, which is this idea of, at the pause you had french voters, majority of french voters voting either for centers, parties, or left wing parties against the far right. national riley, in this revival of what's called the republican front in france. and what we have now is a prime minister that in many respects is designed to, again, at least when the tacit support at least be tolerated by the far right. and for a lot of people, especially on the left, that makes some way of saying, i think we're seeing that in that reaction for the promotional. so where does this leave then the far right national rally party,

the will. will it be able to undermine and possibly the pose barn yet as well? you know, i think the 1st thing is, is it right? we're at this step right now means that there are at least willing to to hear out of me said barton yes, that was not the case or other prime minister's names were floated by. my called at the far right, the national row. he said no, no, no way, barely is willing to hear about money out. and that's what they've said. jordan, barella barnett, the president of the national riley has said he wants to wait and hear that the inaugural speech of the new once he has the government to decide whether or not they're going to support a motion of no confidence or not. so, um, right now they're at least open to the possibility. it's gonna depend on his cabinet. it's gonna depend on that speeches. so what about mr. barney's policies? i mean the world, if the world is familiar with him, they know him as the brakes. it negotiate or so beyond that means what changes will he try to make or what policies really pursue as prime minister? do we know?

yeah it's, it's really hard to say, i think that number one priority, which i alluded to before, and that i think everyone's expecting him to, to, um, to deliver on is, is, is the passage of a budget that is able to be supported by the french business community and also supported by the european political establishment. that's what the news main priority is. i think at the end of the day, beyond that, you know, it becomes a little bit more uncertain you gain some very brief remarks today. i already talked about the importance of schools, immigration, national security jobs, but you know, very, very big, unclear. i think it's gonna depend on getting those choices that he makes is for his cabinet ministers and will know more when he gets that big speech before parliament and in the coming weeks corresponded cole staying there before the night from marston, france, coal, as always, we appreciate your time and your reporting. thank you. thank you. as

it has been a day of mixed emotions for new zealand smell, re community the funeral of their king and the crowning of his daughter as the new queen. the 27 year old will be the 8th. mallory monarch, and only the 2nd queen, huge crowds gathered to watch the new marie queen be anointed no way henry to pay this thing by the coffin of his. the king too, had tier 2 titles for the day. at the age of 69. the king's youngest daughter at 27 years old represents a big generational shift for the amount of key and is hopes that active involvement to now re culture will have a positive influence on younger generations. to come around, we extremely happy that not why. one way to pull is an ukraine. she's the best

person for the position and you'll see across everybody's faces. here we all agree . off to the new queen this morning. the funeral procession for her father begins. mary lorry is really the coffin down the river before just carry to its final resting place of the final so well to a king who was seen by many as a uniting force across new zealand. also cooled altura in the mallory language. c what he's done to united this many people across all territory 13 it's all i often um it's probably a really good sign of the legacy that he's lived here. um, everything it was done um through monopoly turned off the respect 3 different throttle. huh. they loved the mallory king movement was film to strengthen and unify mary culture following versus colonization in the 19th century. it has no

legal mandate and its role is mostly ceremonial. but the monarchy carries cultural and often political significance to marry. and the scene is key to many a central to their identity. with the day continues online, you'll find this on x also known as twitter, youtube and dw news. you can follow me on social media at brent golf tv. and remember whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day. we'll see you then everybody the

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