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hello and welcome to the show. i'm jared raid us vice president campbell of harris and former president donald trump. has he'll be only planned to bite off the seas. presidential campaign us network id say hosted the 1st personal encounter. all of the 2 contestants in philadelphia, which is in the highly competitive swing state of pennsylvania, will go to washington for analysis in just a moment. but 1st, he's donald trump, attacking campbell harris on migration by repeating an unprovoked unproved allegation about the regular migrants is springfield, they're eating the dogs, the people that came in there, eating the catch, they're eating, they're eating the pets of the people that live there. and this is what's happening in our country and associate. it's donald trump was aust also is he had any regrets or the he's role in the capital ride on january the 6th 2021. trump didn't answer

that question, but he is campbell harris, the vice president on the threat, she believes trump is posing to american democracy. donald trump was fired by 81000000 people. so let's be clear about that. and clearly he is having a very difficult time processing that but we cannot afford to have a president of the united states who attempts, as he did in the past to up and the will of the voters in a free and fairly well a lot to unpack here with the double use, washington bureau chief in this policy has been following the debate in is a very fiery and fees divide, both accusing each other of lying. who do you think came out on top and campbell harris or donald trump? it's, you know, one public would say the normal world, it would be clearly coming to harris. she presented some ideas as she really also developed her thoughts. you know, she has

a clear understanding how an ottoman works. she has a clear understanding how you present yourself on the uh, on a stage as someone who is able to talk with the international leaders to face people like flooding reporting or she, she ping or also is in the united states to conduct a dialogue and critical situations all skills, one would think the president of the united states should have frontier in this time. and this year 2024. it's different. a person like donald trump, who's talking about haitians eating dogs and cats, who's talking about a. busy democrats who wants to allow abortions after the woman gave birth to a baby who's talking about millions of people killed and ukraine. and i could go on

and on and on. who puts out lies over and over again. still might have won this debate, at least for those who believe in him, simply they don't care about the facts and they won't check the facts behind his life. so this is a very, a very young president of life and the moment in history. and i think this debate and the outcome in the policy, we'll see, we're just on the line. that is, i want to talk a little bit more about performance here. now, if we cost down minds back a couple of weeks, observe is criticize, come, le harris. phil, failing to make a strong impression in hosting an interview off to her, i guess victorious appearance is at the democratic convention. in this debate, she was asked about her record and changes in policy on things like fracking and on border control. how much was she able to stand up to, to this criticism?

that's how she really came a long way. if you think about and it only her c n n interview some days ago. but also having to think about a form or debates. she delivered like many, many years ago, and we must not forget. donald trump is a total professional, you know, he was running a, there's a tv show for 13 use the front to so he's a pro and she had to send off to him and to she did well. and she also kind of use a very common trick from politicians and they get also by something they feel uncomfortable because they just change the topic or not to answer the questions. that example, that's for example of what you did when it came to migration, which is a really weak spot of hers as she was responsible, responsible for the migration politics of the abiding harris government. and she just kind of turned the page and the tags. donald trump managed to talk about a,

this crowd sizes of his relatives, and he took the bait instead of mailing her down and migration issues. he jumped on bed. so in that regard, she performed very professional, as a politician and i mean these debates are also really, really tests for the american audience. if the candidate would be able to hold up in dicey situations with other leaders. and i think in that regard, she performed really very well, you know, is, i guess, underlying this device and, and something that would be of interest to out audiences as well. is the focus on not only the war in gaza, but also the war in ukraine. could you just summarize for us how these 2 conflicts featured in this debate between campbell harrison donald trump, a donald trump. this is standard answer or gave a standard on to,

and he always says if i would have feet in the white house, the war and ukraine would have never started putting would have never failed to invade ukraine. he also says that when it comes to the hum asa tech and israel and but it's from kind of refuse to really answer the question if he would sacrifice territory ukrainian territory for a p steel. a. he just said i, when i'm in the office even before if, if i'm elected and even before i will be president, the war will be over a kind of the harris on the other side. that's the washington bureau chief. you just pull in his thank you very much for that wrap up and we've got double coverage to you from the debates watching potties in philadelphia t w's. janelle de milan is that the democratic event, benjamin alvaros, group a, is following the republican side of things. welcome to both of you to know. we'll

start with you. obviously, the democrats going to think couple of hours is likely when it's not. i'm assuming not, but tell us what the reaction being de jared, i know it's hard to believe of looking at what you can see behind me, which is not very much, but i swear minutes ago there was a very lively democrat debate watch entered her stride. she was able to talk about things where she was unsure footing, like on abortion and on foreign policy, the audience also started to mirror her reaction to some of a donald trump's, perhaps more outlined, just claims that likes the one about the haitian immigrants, even cats, and dogs, so there was very loud laughter here when he said that when dot com la harris thought made a point of addressing voters directly by saying donald trump has no plan for you. there was very loud applause here. now of course, so this is a very kind audience,

these are all majority campbell, i harris and voters already. and it really does remain to be seen whether she will be able to reach those undecided voters, especially if those a 20 or 30 minutes in the beginning of debate are going to be what most people c. thanks janelle, over to you benjamin. i guess it's safe to assume on the other hand that republicans thought donald trump came out on top. what's been the reaction day where you are? that's right. that really likes to when he spoke about migration and behind me you can see this still is some recording this has to do from fox news, many of the attendees and also went, are also there at now to, to visit. also to take pictures with a panelist there, there was some moments souls where there was a lot of applause and a lot of laughing here. one of them was when there donald trump says a couple of harris has no policies and a wanted to bring, or a mac. i had that we see, and menu rallies, and that also many of the attendees had here also a lot of laughing and applause. when he attacked a joe biden,

and of course the mood was different to you compared to the last event. but that was not to the beating from donald trump, who is an expert, as we have heard. and if we seen over the last presidential debates, but also there was robert due to the fact of the bad debate performance from a joe biden. but you really knows how to get those is on says very quickly turn it around. also say, if we knew your boss, he always, he's always on the beach, those. those are the moments. but the support is really like and we spoke it to some of them. also during the commercial break and also have bn, saying that he really is pushing these policies forward and also said that when it comes to campbell a higher isn't, that's also withdrawn from said in his final statements. she is the vice president of the united states. now she has been in that position for 3 and a half years, and they say if she's promising, why, she's not delivering it now. that's a talking for the referred from donald trump over and over during the debate, but also to that indeed. so we talked to year benjamin you,

you mentioned donald trump being an expert. so someone told me that this is the 7th presidential debates overall. but he's the 3 presidential campaigns that, that he's for. now, janelle mentioned what kimball harris was trying to do to we know of a undecided versus benjamin trump. does have a loyal bice, do you think he did anything to? we know the people that haven't made up their minds yet. so those words as what's party here would definitely be sol defense, but that's also interesting who spoke to one of the attendees, who was said that he thought that a couple of hires was having a better debate. then donald trump, that he's a republican. but at this time, he would vote for campbell hires, and that's also what she sat during 50 page from republicans supporting her endorsing hit and set off donald trump. so those will he, really, he sancho support us. it will be also interesting and we'll try to talk to others was still and divided. who said, okay, let's look at this debate that's look at the policies that they presented. and as

also looked at the post and so for media and both ends. and janelle had spoken about it this rumors about this lie about migrants, allegedly, and taking away pads, cats, and dogs and, and eating them. and that's also something that was affected during the debate. but that's interesting because it's, that's the trump, that we also know. he posted to a i, so a technician to official intelligence generated images one where he was having a lot of cats on his private jet, another one showing cats with weapons. and of course, for him, it's also an opportunity to move to change the topics do things to keep, wants to put on the agenda. instead of answering all the questions from a be from the to presenter is from a b, c. the will also criticize to we spoke to someone in decent and told me that they were rather biased to one candidate and not to another, but fact checking it trump, what they say, you're not fact checking pamela harris. so much to talk about. but unfortunately, we're out of time, benjamin out there is group engine now to my line. thank you very much to by the cost is more on this device on our website, dw,

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